Former RN Vessels abroad

Stevo
11th March 2007, 15:16
Can anyone help, I am compiling a list of former RN vessels serving with foreign navies and am wondering if memebers wouldn't mind updating me of what ships are out there and their current status. In particular I'm curious to know the fate of the former Indonesian Tribals, the Bangladeshi type 41/61s and the Peruvian Darings.

Peter4447
11th March 2007, 16:06
Pakistan took the 6 remaining Type 21's (minus missle system).
Peter4447

Santos
11th March 2007, 21:24
Re the Peruvian Darings of the two bought :-

Decoy still serving as the BAP Ferre DM 74 but due to be stricken soon.

Diana was stricken in 1993. She was named BAP Palacios DM 73.

Chris.

Hawkeye
13th March 2007, 00:36
Hi Stevo

Chile has also bought many ex RN Ships in the past, their latest ones being three of the Type 23 frigates.
If you look up copies of Janes Fighting Ships, past & present books, you should be able to find the fate of many of these ships.
If I can, I will try to compel a list of some of them.
Regards
Karl

SAS Amatola
13th March 2007, 14:11
SA Navy purchased a few Ton class minesweepers (2 preserved), 2 x Z class destroyers, 1 x type 15 frigate and 2 Algerine class minesweepers. SAS Somerset also purchased as HMSAS Barcross

STRAWBERRY
13th March 2007, 19:14
Hi Stevo

Chile has also bought many ex RN Ships in the past, their latest ones being three of the Type 23 frigates.
If you look up copies of Janes Fighting Ships, past & present books, you should be able to find the fate of many of these ships.
If I can, I will try to compel a list of some of them.
Regards
Karl

I am aware of two ex navy ships, "Almirante Cochrane" and the "Regale Ferdinand" I don't recall there RN Names but one was a type 42 (The Latter)

Andy

Hawkeye
13th March 2007, 21:38
Hi Andy

I am aware of two ex navy ships, "Almirante Cochrane" and the "Regale Ferdinand" I don't recall there RN Names but one was a type 42 (The Latter)

Andy

The three type 23 frigates are the Norfolk, Marlborough & Grafton.
The Norfolk commisioned into the Chilean Navy on the 22.11.2006 as the Almirante Cochrane. The Marlborough is due to handed over in 2008. she will be renamed Almirante Condell. Grafton will go in 2007, renamed Almirante Lynch.

The Regale Ferdinand that you mentioned is not a type 42 destroyer but a type 22 frigate. This is the former HMS Coventry, that was sold to Romania. (See Link) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regele_Ferdinand_frigate

Regards
Karl

RobinMilford
13th March 2007, 21:48
Regele Ferdinand is the ex RN T22 HMS Coventry, sold to Romania, along with Regina Maria, ex HMS London. Almirante Cochrane is one of the three T23's, the others being Almirante Lynch & Almirante Condell. There seems to be plenty of information on Wikipedia on RN warships and where they have gone. Lots still hanging around Portsmouth!
Robin

STRAWBERRY
14th March 2007, 20:19
Regele Ferdinand is the ex RN T22 HMS Coventry, sold to Romania, along with Regina Maria, ex HMS London. Almirante Cochrane is one of the three T23's, the others being Almirante Lynch & Almirante Condell. There seems to be plenty of information on Wikipedia on RN warships and where they have gone. Lots still hanging around Portsmouth!
Robin

Oh well...they all look the same to me!(==D)

Peter4447
14th March 2007, 20:28
I am amazed that 3 Type 23's have gone already - it seems as though all the RN's role is these days is 'running in' ships ready to sell them on!
Peter4447

SAS Amatola
14th March 2007, 23:02
1 or 2 ex-Ford class ships still laid up in Hout Bay harbour, South Africa. One gutted the other under conversion and now for sale. Also a few HDML's converted into pleasure craft.

Tomcat_I
7th May 2007, 04:29
For all: I am a chilean warship lover, and this is my first post to this forum.

For Hawkeye:
Since 80 s years Chile has purchased many ex british ships. The first one was the County Batch 2 class guided missile destroyer HMS Norfolk, and was renamed Prat. The following ship adquired by our navy was the tanker HMS Tidepool, renamed Montt. Then after the Falklands war Chile received three remaining Counties Batch 2: HMS Antrim, renamed Blanco Encalada, HMS Fife, renamed Almirante Cochrane, and finally the HMS Glamorgan, renamed Almirante Latorre. Now all the Counties are deleted from active ship lists and the Montt, was sold to unknown owners in operative status.
The fate of the four Counties are as follows:
Almirante Latorre (ex HMS Glamorgan) deleted in the 90, sunk while she was towing to scrappers in front of Arica harbour.
Blanco Encalada (ex HMS Antrim) deleted in 2000, scrapped.
Prat (ex HMS Norfolk) deleted in 2005, moored at Talcahuano.
Almirante Cochrane (ex Fife) deleted in 2006, moored at Talcahuano.
In addition to these ships, Chile purchased two additional Leander class frigates, the HMS Achilles, renamed as Ministro Zenteno and the HMS Ariadne, renamed as General Baquedano. The fate of these two ships are as follows:
General Baquedano (ex HMS Ariadne) deleted in 2000 and was used in a Sinkex in front of Los Vilos.
Ministro Zenteno (ex HMS Achilles) deleted in 2005 and now is moored at Talcahuano.

Regards from Chile
Tomcat I

CEYLON220
7th May 2007, 16:52
The cruiser HMS "CEYLON" was purchased by Peru in 1960 and renamed
"ADMIRAL BOLEGNESIE" (not sure of the spelling) but was scrapped in the 80s

wigger
7th May 2007, 19:46
Brazil bought the 4 batch 1 Type 22s around 1995.

HMS Broadsword renamed Greenhalgh.
HMS Battleaxe renamed Rademaker.
HMS Brilliant renamed Dodsworth.
HMS Brazen renamed Bosisio.

Craig.

R.Philip Griffin
8th May 2007, 01:25
Ahoy Tomcat 1, Great to hear from you. Many thanks for the info. Welcome to this maritime site, it's one of the best. Hope to hear more from you.

Tomcat_I
8th May 2007, 03:39
Thanks Grifmar.
Another info that I can give you is about the Type 22 Batch 2 frigate. This ship is the "Almirante Williams" (ex HMS "Sheffield" or "Shiny Sheffi"). This handsome frigate is now the flagship of the fleet (called here Escuadra Nacional, literally translated as National Square). In the near future this ship will go to refit at Talcahuano and she will receive a CIWS Vulcan Phalanx, an OTO Melara of 76 mm gun, Harpoon Block IIA surface to surface missiles with land attack capability (some as little Tomahawk) and new electronic warfare, but the Type 967/968 radar will be retained. Is possible that the original Seawolf missile system can be replaced by the latest Seawolf 2, similar that installed in Type 23 frigates in VLS.

Regards
Tomcat_I

Keltic Star
8th May 2007, 05:40
We have four dud submarines laying around here somewhere, thanks to BAE and Joseph Lucas.
Sorry , couldn't resist that!(Jester) (Jester) (Jester)

tipahmh
25th August 2009, 04:27
Stevo, in reply to your query. Indonesian Navy (TNI AL) had three tribals namely : HMS ZULU(KRI MARTHA KHRISTINA TIAYAHAHU) , GURKHA (KRI WILHELMUS ZAKARIAS YOHANNES) and TARTAR (KRI HASANUDIN). these ships are not on TNI AL operational list anymore. For your information KRI HASANUDIN (TARTAR) had already been replaced with a new HASANUDIN of the Sigma Type Corvete built by Netherlands.
Bangladesh Navy had two type 41 frigates namely LYNX (BNS ABU BAKR) and JAGUAR(BNS ALI HYDER) and one type 16, LLANDAFF (BNS OMAR FAROOQ). According to my latest information all the three ships are still operational serving with the Commodore Commanding BN Flotilla (COMBAN) moored in Chittagong.
Malaysian Navy had one Type 41/61 class frigate, MERMAID (KD HANG TUAH). She is still in service and used as training ship. I hope the information given is useful to you. Best Regards. tipahmh. Malaysia.

stevo r6 86
25th August 2009, 22:40
cant beleive no-one has mentiond the centaur class aircraft carrier HMS Hermes, sold in 1986 to india then renamed to ins viraat.

McCloggie
26th August 2009, 00:05
The Irish Navy took the old Hong Kong Bird class patrol boats (ORLA and CIERA still in service ?) and I think Brazil took a couple of the old RNR MSFs.

McC

Stevo
26th August 2009, 20:26
Cheers folks, it was so long ago that I sent that post, that I had all but forgotton it.
I was particularly curious to know the fate of the former Indonesian Tribals, the Bangladeshi type 41/61s and the Peruvian Darings and try and see if there was anything out there that I was missing particularly in the small vessel fleet. Since that time the Bangladeshi ships have reappeared at sea so are still going strong, but the ultimate fate of the Tribals was never known, nor where the London (Babur) was scrapped or the Iranian Damavand a former Battle class destroyer.

Stevo, I reckon we all knew the Hermes was out but yeah, no one mentioned it. I went to Mumbai a few years back and could not find the Viraat or the Vikrant which is now a museum. No one knew what I was asking for despite having an interpreter.

Macca
27th August 2009, 04:26
Steve, If you have Google earth(free to install and use) search Surabaya, then scroll out to the ocean, dockyard easy to find. Loads of Naval ships in port including all the ex dutch Leanders. I cant make out a tribal but I know they were modernised so maybe hard to recognise. Lots of other old scrap ships by the looks of it. Also tried a few other Indonesian dockyards but no joy.

I have found a few other ex british ships this way but even google earth is not bang up to date and you can only get good clarity in some countries

Also at the Karachi Dockyard you can see all the Type 21's and Gun leander in a floating dock, very stripped by the looks of it, (Diomede or Apollo)
You can clearly see Vikrant in Mumbai along with the Ex Andromeda, Type 22's in Brazil near Sao Paulo. In the Chilean port of Talcahuano you can find 2 counties and a Leander, You can clearly see one of the counties has a larger flight deck than the other. Also at the port of Plaza Sotomayor are the Type 23's.


I also just checked out the Chittagong naval base in Bangladesh and can clearly make out a Type 41 with a front and rear 4.5" guns and perhpas 2 Type 61's?

Stevo
29th August 2009, 00:01
Nice idea Macca cheers for the tip.

Union Jack
30th August 2009, 17:14
You can clearly see one of the Counties has a larger flight deck than the other

Almost certainly the former HMS FIFE, one of my old ships!

Jack

wigger
31st August 2009, 12:57
Just looking at Surabaya like Macca recommended, I think I've found a Tribal. There are 3 Dutch Leanders alongside each other, just aft of them are another 4 vessels, the 3rd one from the harbourside looks about the right shape and size as a Tribal. The Flightdeck looks to be in the right place and a few other features can just be made out. Surabaya hasn't got the best detail yet though so I'm ready to be proved wrong.:D

Macca
1st September 2009, 04:17
Think your right there Craig, You can make out the bridge shape and the flightdeck. appears to be in a very stripped state, I wonder which Tribal she is???

wildcat45
2nd September 2009, 18:36
I am sure I saw one of the Tribals wrecked on a beach in a TV report in the aftermath of the Tsunami.

Dan

PS

What the hell made Glamorgan sink? An Exocet wasn't up to the job and with such a high freeboard it does make you wonder what it took to take such a strong and well constructed ship to the bottom.

Ah well, another bit of the sea flood that will foreverbe a piece of Tyneside.

Hawkeye
4th September 2009, 10:48
The Irish Navy took the old Hong Kong Bird class patrol boats (ORLA and CIERA still in service ?) and I think Brazil took a couple of the old RNR MSFs.

McC

The Philippine Navy had the other three.

Tomcat_I
5th September 2009, 16:32
Wildcat.
The reason of the sink of the Latorre ( ex HMS Glamorgan) is not clear. There was no storm because the area of the sinking was offshore of Arica, and in that place there is no bad weather at the whole year.
This sinking was very strange, becuase the ship buoyancy at hat date was in excellent conditions. I think that the owner preferred to sink the ship in order to obtain more money from the insurance organization.

Regards from Chile
Tomcat_I

wildcat45
8th September 2009, 16:20
Thanks for that. Any pics of her on the way to the scrappers - or laid up?

Did she sink at night?

wildcat45
8th September 2009, 16:51
Thanks for that. Any pics of her on the way to the scrappers - or laid up?

Did she sink at night?

Hugh Ferguson
9th September 2009, 11:36
In early 1957 I piloted the Brazilian Navy ship, ILHA GRANDE. I am fairly sure that she was ex Royal Navy. Could anyone confirm this and let me know her former name. Regards, Hugh Ferguson

wildcat45
9th September 2009, 17:12
HMS Challenger the seabed operations ship spent many years laid up on the Tyne. She now works as some sort of underwater mining ship I think.

Her crane is stil in RN service on HMS Ocean.

Whatever happened to HMS Wakeful? She was an HMS but a tug. I think the Greek navy bought her.

Dan

Cooky Boy
9th September 2009, 20:48
HMS Wakeful A236 - Was used for Fishery Protection until the Islands were in commission, then refitted as a Submarine Support vessel but was used for many other functions as well. Sold To Hellenic Salvage Tugboats In June 1988 And Renamed Aegean Pelago.

Seaweed
1st August 2010, 11:43
HMS Ceylon became Coronel Bolognesi, HMS Newfoundland went to the Peruvians about the same time (decommissioned from the RN 1959) and became Almirante Grau.

jeffuk13
3rd August 2010, 20:23
I love google earth for ship spotting

RFA Colin
8th August 2010, 09:29
I paid the Jersey off in 1993 and after a month's handover she sailed to Bangladesh under their ensign.

A criminally early end to a career of a ship with a good ten years worth of Fishery Protection left in her at least.

I believe the rest of the Island's may have been sold off some ten years later?

Beautiful but tough seakeeping vessels were the Island's.

Stevo
8th August 2010, 13:10
Just read in the 'letters to the Editor' section of Warship International that the former Antrim survived the tidal wave which struck Chile after the recent earthquake. Apparently moored In a river, the wave dragged the laid up destroyer upstream and had to be pulled off the river bank.

Laurence_ss
17th February 2013, 20:12
17th Feb 2013............ Type 12 A/S Frigate still in Vittoria dock, Birkenhead, UK.

HMS PLYMOUTH !!! (egg)

www.hmsplymouthtrust.co.uk

Boatman25
18th February 2013, 20:48
17th Feb 2013............ Type 12 A/S Frigate still in Vittoria dock, Birkenhead, UK.

HMS PLYMOUTH !!! (egg)

www.hmsplymouthtrust.co.uk

Least said about her and her so called rescuers the better, she should go for scrap and all this stupid business about rescuing her will be finished anyway she does not qualify for this thread

zero
19th February 2013, 00:30
Well said Boatman I'm sick of hearing about the "ship no-one wanted".