Denholms

paisleymerchant
16th March 2007, 11:36
From 1975 onwards i worked for Denholms Ship Management Have often wondered what has become of some of the old shipmates
So if anyone out there remembers me drop me a line !

The ships that I sailed on were

Gtv Eurofeighter
Gtv Euroliner
Gtv Asiafreighter
Mv Sir John Hunter
Mv Scotstoun
Mv Wellpark
Mv Troll Lake
Mv Loch Lomond
Mv Loch Maree
Mv Stena Sailor
Mv Tor Caledonia
Mv Cast Otter

And probably quite a few that I have forgotten. I was Catering Boy and Steward

So get in touch

All the best

Grant Saunders

dowling
26th March 2007, 21:24
welcome paisleymerchant would maybe be better if you posted dates when you were on these ships,remember alex leckie,sailed as cook on most of the denholm fleet,myself,iwas only with denholms a few years,but good years.regards graham dowling.

Ceum
1st April 2007, 16:54
From 1975 onwards i worked for Denholms Ship Management Have often wondered what has become of some of the old shipmates
So if anyone out there remembers me drop me a line !

The ships that I sailed on were

Gtv Eurofeighter
Gtv Euroliner
Gtv Asiafreighter
Mv Sir John Hunter
Mv Scotstoun
Mv Wellpark
Mv Troll Lake
Mv Loch Lomond
Mv Loch Maree
Mv Stena Sailor
Mv Tor Caledonia
Mv Cast Otter

And probably quite a few that I have forgotten. I was Catering Boy and Steward

So get in touch

All the best

Grant Saunders

Hi Grant,
I think I probably sailed with you on the Scotstoun, I was an AB on there, I remember you telling me once that your Brother's name was Glen that is how it sticks in my mind, at that time I was quite fond of Whisky myself !! (GLEN GRANT) I was on the Scotstoun twice the first time was from March till September 1978 and again from February until June 1980 I paid off in Piraeus when she was sold to the Greeks.
Regards
Michael Mac Neil

dowling
1st April 2007, 20:25
hi grant,get your book out to confirm your dates onboard the denholm ships.alex leckie,2nd cook-baker thinks he remembers you.rgds graham.

paisleymerchant
2nd April 2007, 10:33
These are the dates

SHIP Join Date Where Leave Date Where
Gtv Eurofreighter 28/11/1975 Greenock 05/03/1976 Greenock
Gtv Euroliner 26/03/1976 Greenock 24/06/1976 Greenock
Gtv Euroliner 29/07/1976 Greenock 27/09/1976 Greenock
Gtv Asiafreighter 15/10/1976 Greenock 09/11/1976 Greenock
M/V Sir John Hunter 28/11/1976 Hirohata Japan 16/05/1977 Yokohama
M/V Wellpark 29/05/1977 Hiroshima 18/01/1978 Freemantle
M/V Atholl Forest 12/03/1978 Cardiff 16/06/1978 Cardiff
M/V Scotstoun 17/07/1978 Kaohsiung 23/03/1979 Constanta
M/V Loch Lomond 28/05/1979 Los Angeles 03/12/1979 Sheerness
M/V Scotstoun 09/02/1980 La Goulette 25/06/1980 Pireaus
M/V Arctic Troll 15/08/1980 Tilbury 15/11/1980 Dagenham
M/V Loch Maree 14/12/1980 Sharjah 13/07/1981 Sharjah
M/V Wellpark 12/10/1981 Singapore 17/03/1982 Singapore
M/V Troll Lake 01/06/1982 Tilbury 01/08/1982 La Pallice
M/V Tor Caledonia 20/08/1982 Felixstowe 15/11/1982 Marseille
M/V Stena Sailer 17/12/1982 Hull 01/02/1983 Hull
M/V Tor Caledonia 24/05/1983 Stanley F I 15/08/1983 Stanley F I
M/V Tor Caledonia 18/10/1983 Stanley F I 30/12/1983 Stanley F I
M/V Tor Caledonia 02/03/1984 Stanley F I 09/05/1984 North Shields
M/V Exxtor 1 22/07/1984 Newhaven 30/07/1985 Newhaven
M/V Cast Otter 02/08/1985 Antwerp 22/12/1985 Antwerp
M/V Cast Otter 14/03/1986 Rotterdam 29/06/1986 Antwerp
M/V Tor Caledonia 23/10/1986 Immingham 31/10/1986 Immingham
M/V Merchant Trader 17/11/1986 Cairnryan 30/07/1987 Birkenhead
M/V Lincolnshire 14/12/1987 Livorno 18/05/1988 Donaldsonville
M/V Staffordshire 22/06/1988 Santos 09/11/1988 Yanbu
Bibby Resolution 06/01/1989 Emden 11/04/1989 Emden
Bibby Resolution 24/04/1989 New York 15/05/1989 New York
M/V Lincolnshire 06/07/1989 Gibbstown 06/12/1989 Antwerp
M/V Maersk Defender 08/03/1990 Esbjerg 30/03/1990 Esbjerg
M/V Maersk Defender 02/05/1990 Esbjerg 01/06/1990 Esbjerg
M/V Maersk Defender 27/06/1990 Esbjerg 30/10/1990 Esbjerg
M.V Maersk Harrier 22/11/1990 Limmasol 26/01/1991 Limmasol
M/V Maersk Defender 15/02/1991 Grangemouth 08/10/1991 Dan Field

paisleymerchant
2nd April 2007, 10:42
Thanks your comments have now added dates and yes I do remember Alex Leckie

dowling
2nd April 2007, 20:34
hi grant,must have missed you by the dates on your post.i thought i was doing well being with denholms for a few years but tou leave me standing cap in hand with your vessels.i will pass on regards to alex when i see him next.rgds graham

mrcanoehead
12th October 2007, 08:14
Sir. you sailed on the CAST OTTER, it used to come to quebec, pt cartier, sept illes & montreal, i remeber seeing it there in the 70's, How come they never employed anyone from Canada?

Bill Shaver

John Cassels
12th October 2007, 09:00
Sir. you sailed on the CAST OTTER, it used to come to quebec, pt cartier, sept illes & montreal, i remeber seeing it there in the 70's, How come they never employed anyone from Canada?

Bill Shaver

Bill , for the Cast otter , Muskox and Husky we first used DSM then when
we did the management ourselves , we used a crewing agency in Bermuda.
The polarbear,Caribou and Beaver were similar but were crewed from an
agency in Croatia.

John Cassels
12th October 2007, 09:02
These are the dates

SHIP Join Date Where Leave Date Where
Gtv Eurofreighter 28/11/1975 Greenock 05/03/1976 Greenock
Gtv Euroliner 26/03/1976 Greenock 24/06/1976 Greenock
Gtv Euroliner 29/07/1976 Greenock 27/09/1976 Greenock
Gtv Asiafreighter 15/10/1976 Greenock 09/11/1976 Greenock
M/V Sir John Hunter 28/11/1976 Hirohata Japan 16/05/1977 Yokohama
M/V Wellpark 29/05/1977 Hiroshima 18/01/1978 Freemantle
M/V Atholl Forest 12/03/1978 Cardiff 16/06/1978 Cardiff
M/V Scotstoun 17/07/1978 Kaohsiung 23/03/1979 Constanta
M/V Loch Lomond 28/05/1979 Los Angeles 03/12/1979 Sheerness
M/V Scotstoun 09/02/1980 La Goulette 25/06/1980 Pireaus
M/V Arctic Troll 15/08/1980 Tilbury 15/11/1980 Dagenham
M/V Loch Maree 14/12/1980 Sharjah 13/07/1981 Sharjah
M/V Wellpark 12/10/1981 Singapore 17/03/1982 Singapore
M/V Troll Lake 01/06/1982 Tilbury 01/08/1982 La Pallice
M/V Tor Caledonia 20/08/1982 Felixstowe 15/11/1982 Marseille
M/V Stena Sailer 17/12/1982 Hull 01/02/1983 Hull
M/V Tor Caledonia 24/05/1983 Stanley F I 15/08/1983 Stanley F I
M/V Tor Caledonia 18/10/1983 Stanley F I 30/12/1983 Stanley F I
M/V Tor Caledonia 02/03/1984 Stanley F I 09/05/1984 North Shields
M/V Exxtor 1 22/07/1984 Newhaven 30/07/1985 Newhaven
M/V Cast Otter 02/08/1985 Antwerp 22/12/1985 Antwerp
M/V Cast Otter 14/03/1986 Rotterdam 29/06/1986 Antwerp
M/V Tor Caledonia 23/10/1986 Immingham 31/10/1986 Immingham
M/V Merchant Trader 17/11/1986 Cairnryan 30/07/1987 Birkenhead
M/V Lincolnshire 14/12/1987 Livorno 18/05/1988 Donaldsonville
M/V Staffordshire 22/06/1988 Santos 09/11/1988 Yanbu
Bibby Resolution 06/01/1989 Emden 11/04/1989 Emden
Bibby Resolution 24/04/1989 New York 15/05/1989 New York
M/V Lincolnshire 06/07/1989 Gibbstown 06/12/1989 Antwerp
M/V Maersk Defender 08/03/1990 Esbjerg 30/03/1990 Esbjerg
M/V Maersk Defender 02/05/1990 Esbjerg 01/06/1990 Esbjerg
M/V Maersk Defender 27/06/1990 Esbjerg 30/10/1990 Esbjerg
M.V Maersk Harrier 22/11/1990 Limmasol 26/01/1991 Limmasol
M/V Maersk Defender 15/02/1991 Grangemouth 08/10/1991 Dan Field


Grant , are you the guy who fell through his bunk on the Atholl Forest when
I was there as Ch.Mate ???.

John Cassels
12th October 2007, 09:26
Grant , just remembered it wasn't you but another guy by the name of
Yellan. Sorry.

mrcanoehead
12th October 2007, 16:49
J.C.

terrific initals, w've a bridge in montreal named after somone like that too Jacques Cartier{ jimmy carter} Most americans don't know that, but thats another story.. reason i asked was would hvae liked to work on them , seemed interesting enough as opposed to staying on theose infernal lake boats, eventually got away from them, yes the major recession in early 80's & wound up in american navy, regretted that however made some interesting stops all over, wonder what your monthy wages were like for 4th or 3rd enginners on there under Denholm, For a while Federal navigation was under them too, another canadian company that flags out completely for obvious tax & anti union reasons, can't blame them, for if i was a buisnessman i'd do the same too. do you reember being on anchorage in Sept Iles, at the time the Derbishire was loading & left for JAPAN..

Bill Shaver

Bill Shaver.

Skye Sierra
18th October 2007, 18:17
Hi Grant,

Our paths crossed a few times - don't know if you remember. I was 3/O on the John Hunter when you joined in Hirohata and had the then new wife with me (she was on her honeymoon and discovered Geisha bars in Hirohata - oops!!). I was 2/0 and mate on the Exxtor with you and mate on the Tor Caledonia when you were there in '86.

My last trip with Denholms was relieving mate on the Merchant Trader. I only did 3 weeks on her and left to come ashore in February 87.

Hope you're looking after yourseRegards

Roger(Smoke)

jasmacpm
30th June 2008, 22:38
Hello, Grant,
as an ex Wellpark cadet, I am pretty certain I sailed with you on your second stint on her. In fact, it looks like you paid off your first trip on her when I joined. She was at Kwinana, loading pig iron for China? If I remember rightly, I probably flew out with you to Singapore to join her, on your second trip? We stayed overnight, in a hotel called "the Four Seasons?" I think we kaybe went to Christmas Island, then on to New Zealand, Brisbane, back to S'pore? I can't remember if you played football, but we played against a team in NZ and also in Brizzy, I think? It was a great trip, as a cadet. Wasn't there another catering boy, rather efiminate young man and another called, Gerry? I think you and he may have been celtic fans?
Anyway, hope all is well with you. My name, Jimmy McCallum. Don't suppose the name will ring a bell, but I enjoy this website.
Oh,another question for you and others- how the h--l did the Extorr 1 manage to cross the Atlantic to Newhaven? I was on her when she was refloated from Miami harbour. The steel plates in her ballast tanks were like paper.

Wurmadale
12th July 2008, 15:22
Looking at the ship list I must have sailed with you on Wellpark in '81, I joined as 4/E in Durban (Drydock) in September '81, paid off Kanda Japan just after New Year '82.
My main memory is of the mad Electrician from Somerset and answering an E/R alarm at 9pm and meeting the control room door mat floating passed the ladder when I got to the top plates!

It was a good trip and the football match in NZ Jimmy mentions was in Bluff if memory serves.

Roger

paisleymerchant
24th July 2008, 10:58
The first time I paid off was in Freemantle and if i remember right i do remember NZ but that was the first time i was on her
The second time on her all the cadets were no longer there

jasmacpm
18th September 2008, 15:24
Hi, Grant,
here's photographic proof we were on Wellpark together (I think?) - check gallery for Member Faces and search for Wellpark, or try this link-
http://www.shipsnostalgia.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=137743

Dave.Finney
12th October 2008, 09:13
Hi Grant
sailed with you on Atholl Forrest . Have memories of a wild night out in B.C. Remember meeting you again a year or two later. I was a deck cadet on the Atholl Forrest
regards
Dave

johnmar
21st October 2008, 16:35
I also joined the Wellpark in May 1977 and paid off in Freemantle in Jan. 1978.
I was 3/O at the tine

sidsal
21st October 2008, 20:38
I have a friend Capt Brian McManus of Kinmel Bay near Rhyl in N Wales . I know he was master of the Arctic Troll before he retired. He was with Elder Dempster and then joined Denholms where he worked until he retired. He was a cadet on HMS Conway in WW2 and is a Normandy veteran.
Sid Davies

muldonaich
21st October 2008, 23:18
i sailed with him on troll lake twice a good old man had many a laugh with him next time you see him ask him about norman m campbell on troll lake he must remember him give him my regards kev.

John Cassels
22nd October 2008, 07:52
I have a friend Capt Brian McManus of Kinmel Bay near Rhyl in N Wales . I know he was master of the Arctic Troll before he retired. He was with Elder Dempster and then joined Denholms where he worked until he retired. He was a cadet on HMS Conway in WW2 and is a Normandy veteran.
Sid Davies


Still cycling his way round the world is he ?.

jimmys
22nd October 2008, 08:08
John, another name from Denholms I used to know was Tommy Laird an Engineer and later Personnel Officer. I have not heard his name for years. Reading these threads names keep cropping up. I live in Glasgow but never sailed with Denholms. A lot of people I knew did.

Any details welcome.

regards
jimmy

muldonaich
22nd October 2008, 11:44
John, another name from Denholms I used to know was Tommy Laird an Engineer and later Personnel Officer. I have not heard his name for years. Reading these threads names keep cropping up. I live in Glasgow but never sailed with Denholms. A lot of people I knew did.

Any details welcome.

regards
jimmytommy laird passed on a long number of years ago i sailed with him a great guy he went very young poor man rgds kev

John Cassels
22nd October 2008, 18:11
Jimmy , Kevin just beat me too it with the sad news about Tommy.

Maybe you've come across another "old "name ; Jimmy Meikle ?.

jimmys
22nd October 2008, 19:28
Indeed sorry to hear about Tommy, My better half tells me I have not heard from him in thirty years. I was in Glasgow Nautical College in the seventies. She met him. I need to keep her away from my computer.

She says I dont know anybody called Meikle, but I am not so sure.

regards
jimmy

iain mac
23rd October 2008, 12:19
If its Jimmy meikle the lecky he's retired and living in vittoria brasil

muldonaich
23rd October 2008, 14:14
sailed with him another good guy has he passed on by the way john what happened to the cast husky and the other conbulkers they were good ships

muldonaich
23rd October 2008, 23:04
hi jimmys tommy was in macgibbons school of engineering so she must remember jimmy holburn he ended up technical advisor to the board of directors in denholms two great guys jimmy was involved in the seatrain ships from the first drawingsome of us spent a lot of time with him in emden kev.

John Cassels
24th October 2008, 09:43
sailed with him another good guy has he passed on by the way john what happened to the cast husky and the other conbulkers they were good ships


Morning Kevin,

All the conbulkers went in '94 , '95. As far as I can remember , they were
sold with the proviso that all container fittings would be removed and that
they would continue trading as panamax bulkers ( which in fact is all they
really were.
Yes , they were good days . Very hard working ships and well built.
Some of the loading/discharging programs we had to plan would have
finished weaker ships long ago.

jimmys
24th October 2008, 13:21
Kev

Yes I remember Jimmy Holburn, There was a very large number of Denholm engineers around at the time.

Did you or John perform on the sulphur boats, so called luxury liners. We used to hear about them at lunchtime refreshment. I cant remember the names of the ships. Have not heard anybody mention them for years.

regards
jimmy

Gulpers
24th October 2008, 13:56
jimmys,

That'll be the Naess Texas and Naess Louisiana, later Nordic Texas and Nordic Louisiana. (Thumb)

muldonaich
24th October 2008, 16:35
yes jimmy did about 18 months on the naess louisiana with catains maxwell warman smart and another cant remember his name bad run most of the time they were good ships in bad weather

jimmys
24th October 2008, 17:14
Hi Kev,

There was a lot of discussion about those two ships. An old friend Jim Hammond second engineer always spoke about that pair. Did you meet Jim???

I should not read these threads, you spend half your time trying to remember peoples names. The great thing about it is you can always ask here nobody minds if you get it wrong!!

regards
jimmy

muldonaich
24th October 2008, 20:40
hi jimmy the only engineers i remember are george brand c/h eng and david glatley 2nd eng its that long ago the only mate that comes to mind is marcus gunn and willie mcallister i think it was his first trip mate he then went into the office nice guy sadly he crossed the bar as well very young brgds kev

celsis
28th October 2008, 10:45
While I was running about daft on Ben Boats and Port Boats, my brother in law, Ron MacKinnon, was a Mate with Denholms.

Anybody remember what he was like to work with?

pentlandpirate
25th November 2008, 07:05
Do you mean Ronnie MacKinnon from Barra? Sailed with him when he was 3rd Mate on Connon Forest. Can spill the beans on what he was like for a fee?

keating1975
21st October 2013, 11:19
Grant & Roger

I joined Sir John Hunter on 10 May 1976 until leaving in Hirohata on 28 November 1976. My wife joined me in Sicily and we both flew back to UK from Japan.