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11th April 2007, 04:44
there used to be a twin screw dredger called the foremost Prince working at Newhavens some years ago. she had twin steam recip engines and another engine for driving the bucket chain. Had the pleasure of a tour of the engine room as a child and remember being mesmerised with the recips and thier guvernors spinning away on the top.
Anyone know what became of her after she left Newhaven.
The captain at that time was a Mr Clueston. (went to school with his son)
be nice to thionk she could still be working somewhere... she was a reasonable size for a bucket dredger. (Thumb)
11th April 2007, 05:01
Heres some info on her
Vessel Name: FOREMOST PRINCE
Vessel ID: 517010051
Vessel Type: Dredge
Tonnage: 836 gross
Owner: James Contract and ShipbuildingCo. Ltd,London.
Builder: Blythswood Shipbuilding co.
Bucket dredge, arrived Lyttelton 14 Jun 1966 to undergo a two month survey. 17 Jun floating crane RAPAKI removed the buckets and ladder before she went into dry dock.
ss FOREMOST PRINCE
built by Blythswood Shipbuilding Company Scotstoun,
Yard No 34
Engines by Aitchison Blair Ltd Clydebank
Port of Registry: London
Propulsion: Steam triple exp.6cy 1200ihp 9 knots
Ship Type: Hopper Dredger
Ship's Role: New Zealand coasting
Tonnage: 836 grt | 650 dwt
Length: 195 feet 0
Breadth: 37 feet 7
Draught: 13 feet 6
James Contracting and Shipping
11th April 2007, 11:24
bucket dredger "Foremost Prince"
1954 taken over by Boskalis Westminster Dredging Co.
1971 sold to Milutinovic, Yugoslavia as "Bag 5 Bor"
1981 broken up, Yugoslavia
11th April 2007, 13:15
great to know she went on to have another working life for a while Nev. very grateful for all the info mate. thank you very much.
Flijm: good to know she lasted that long. thank you/
11th April 2007, 22:01
When I was Pursering on on P. S. Waverley at Newhaven in 1978 there was a small bucket dredger in use in the harbour then - again I think she was owned by the James Dredger Co. Can anybody supply further details?
13th April 2007, 02:27
'FOREMOST PRINCE', spent quite some time away from home waters dredging in New Zealand at the Port of Gisborne in the mid sixties . A new basin was dredged for a deep water port and the river mouth deverted and during this period many months were spent at Lyttelton under Survey and Dry docking .
Although NZ had several bucket dredges she was something 'different'.
16th June 2007, 17:05
Does Testside sound right? Left NN for the breakers(?) 4/1985
16th June 2007, 21:59
Could have been TESTSIDE (182958)built Sliedrecht, Holland 1948. Owners James Contracting & Shipping Co Ltd, Southampton. She was sold in 1985 to Harry Pounds.
17th June 2007, 02:05
Captain Clueston ended up as Marine Superintendent at James Contracting at Dibles Wharf, Southampton. I remember being interviewed by him for a position on the 'Foremost 102' to do a rock blasting and removal job plus channel deepening in Shell's Torslanda terminal in Gothenburg in 1968. Vessels used were the 'Foremost 101', '102', Foremost Southampton ? bucket dredger and the chartered Trailing dredger 'Yolanda' (Panamanian' flag). A very hard job where we lost 2 men and some serious injuries.
17th June 2007, 09:19
awateah2. brought back a memory or two there mate. i was once at school with Captain clueston's son Victor.
Seem to recall hearing once that Captain Clueston during a docking caught his head as he went through the wheelhouse door. The mate had to complete the docking manouver.
that sounds like a rough job you were on in Gothenberg awatea. happy you were one to survive it mate.
14th July 2009, 03:07
what an interesting thread. I was associated with "F-P" while she was in N.Z.She was towed to Gisbourne by the tug "Humber" to break up a rock bar, after that Humber towed her to Whangarei for a similar job in the new port at Kioreroa, thats when I joined her.The bucket chain was designed and built for digging rock.Two 1500 ton bottom dump barges attended her all the time and I drove one of the tugs, generally WDTeal a converted T.I.D. (53) and a new Sydney built WD Arnhem.You got a real roasting if she had to wait for a barge to come in, that chain took some starting up again.The dredging engine was triple exp. with rope drive to the upper tumbler, I think it was 5 ropes and could'nt she bellow when digg'n deep n dirty under the rocks.When she arrived from Gisbourne (or maybe it was after dry docking) the chain was re-assembled and dismantled again before she sailed for Singapore. Teal and Arnhem went to Mt Maunganui with a barge each and I transfered to WD53 a trailer suction also on the Mount job.while WDA Endeavour went to West Australia to Port Hedland.Teal later shipped to Singapore to attend F-P and I think was scrapped there.F-P sure had a long and hard life. regards ray.
14th July 2009, 05:24
Interesting thread, there was a single engine, steam, bucket dredger, in Cardiff when I was an apprentice, the ladder was belt driven with one of the widest belts I've ever seen. This was used mostly for mud dredging inside and outside the port. During my time in Holland, we often carried out bucket lip, pad and pin hole repairs, the welding rods used for lip and pad facing were extremely high Brinell hardness.
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