British Holly 1946

ruud
8th May 2007, 13:38
Ahoy,
Here a lovely shot of the BRITISH HOLLY,mates,just collect her,also available in HR.
This text was copied out of the gallery,and written by alistair,so all credits to him(Thumb)

""One of the earlier post war "12"s, completed on 16.12.1946 by Sir James Laing & Sons Ltd., Sunderland, (Yard No. 770, O/N 183530). Laings built 5 out of the 54 ships of this class, John's British Birch was another and she was completed 5.6.1951. The Holly was 12,354 DWT, 4 cyl 2 S.C.S.A. Doxford oil engine producing 3,435 bhp @ 105 rpm, service speed 11.5 knots. 23.3.1964 she arrived at Faslane for demolition by Shipbreaking Industries Ltd. The Birch was scrapped the same year in June at Grimstad. The Workman lasted until May 1967 and the Fame went on until February 1972 although she had been laid up at Swansea from September 1971.""
Regards,
Alastair

Sorry forgot to mention source:Courtesy/© WSPL[World Ship Photo Library]

John_F
8th May 2007, 18:17
Lovely clear photo of her Ruud - thanks for posting.
Kind regards,
John.

ruud
9th May 2007, 04:48
Ahoy John,
The original was a bit darker,so I'd to enhance her a little by clearing,but indeed you don't see 'em oldies so clearly taken nowadays that often.
It's my pleasure to share these with people that do appreciate good shots.
Thanks for the compliments.
Still have others to come,so keep watching.

gdynia
9th May 2007, 05:11
Your wasting your talents Ruud another fantastic photo

Roy Fox
20th January 2009, 08:15
I wonder where and when this photo was taken. The Holly was my first ship. I joined her in Sunderland as first year apprentice and sailed in her until mid-1948.
Roy

Pemcol
20th January 2009, 10:09
Was the British Might the same class does anybody know? there are many similarities, when I joined the BM at the I o G we sailed to Drammen in Norway, and boy was it cold, from there to the Gulf, that was warmer, Q8 to Aden 6 trips I think, then Venice twice, then back to the UK.

John_F
20th January 2009, 13:08
Pemcol,
The Might was built slightly earlier than the Holly & was completed by Harland & Wolf at their Govan yard on june 6th 1945. She was the same class of vessel as the Holly at 12,202 dwt. She spent her entire life with BP before being sold for scrap on May 11th 1961.
Kind regards,
John.

BillH
20th January 2009, 15:51
I wonder where and when this photo was taken. The Holly was my first ship. I joined her in Sunderland as first year apprentice and sailed in her until mid-1948.
Roy
Background is like Table Mountain Cape Town

John_F
20th January 2009, 17:29
Bill,
Have to agree with you - Capetown. There used to be (maybe still is) a firm of ship photographers (forgotten their name) that specialised in taking photos of all ships visiting Capetown. I think they are quite strict on their copyrights!
Kind regards,
John.

alastairjs
20th January 2009, 18:40
John,
The Photographer who's name sticks in my mind for Cape Town shipping pictures is George Young. I think he took pictures there on a daily basis up until about 1983. If I recall he was in the South African Air Force during the war. I have a feeling that his archive collection is now administered by a company called CapePorts.
Regards,
Alastair

John Crossland
20th January 2009, 22:56
Hi all,

J.K. de Vries was another ship photographer at Cape Town in the 1960's.

I have several of his Shaw Savill images.

Pemcol
21st January 2009, 10:32
John_F thanks for the info on the Might, the info in the Allen Collection is a little sparse, Regards Frank.

BillH
21st January 2009, 19:17
Was the British Might the same class does anybody know? there are many similarities, when I joined the BM at the I o G we sailed to Drammen in Norway, and boy was it cold, from there to the Gulf, that was warmer, Q8 to Aden 6 trips I think, then Venice twice, then back to the UK.
Data from my records for comparison

BRITISH HOLLY ( 2nd of name in fleet ) (1946 - 1964)

O.N. 183530. 8,582g. 4,919n. 12,354d. 469.6 x 62.0 x 33.9 feet.
4-cyl. 2 Stroke Cycle Single Acting (23-5/8" x 91-5/16") Doxford type oil engine made by Wm.Doxford & Sons Ltd., Sunderland. 3,435 BHP.

26.8.1946: Launched by Sir James Laing & Sons Ltd., Sunderland (Yard No. 770), for the British Tanker Company Ltd.

12.1946: Completed.

1.6.1956: Owners restyled as BP Tanker Company Ltd.

23.3.1964: Arrived at Faslane for demolition by Shipbreaking Industries Ltd.

26.3.1964: Work commenced.



BRITISH MIGHT (1945 - 1961)

O.N. 180565. 8,269g. 4,806n. 12,202d. 466.0 x 59.5 x 34.8 feet.
6-cyl. 4 Stroke Cycle Single Acting (29-1/8" x 59-1/16") B&W type oil engine made by the shipbuilder. 3,200 BHP.

29.3.1945: Launched by Harland & Wolff Ltd., Glasgow (Yard No. 1196 G), for the British Tanker Company Ltd.

7.6.1945: Completed.

1.6.1956: Owners restyled as BP Tanker Company Ltd.

9.5.1961: Arrived at Troon for demolition by West of Scotland Shipbreaking Company Ltd.

17.5.1961: Work commenced.

Pemcol
23rd January 2009, 11:20
BillH, thanks for that, Regards Frank.

iainr
23rd January 2009, 11:35
I sailed on the Holly from 11/62 to 3/63. Very strange but my recollection is of her having a B&W 4 stroke engine with Buchi blower. Must be old age

Vital Sparks
23rd January 2009, 11:40
I sailed on the Holly from 11/62 to 3/63. Very strange but my recollection is of her having a B&W 4 stroke engine with Buchi blower. Must be old age

Same name different ship, there was a British Holly built on the Clyde in 1962ish with a B&W diesel, built under licence by Kincaids.

BillH
23rd January 2009, 15:40
Same name different ship, there was a British Holly built on the Clyde in 1962ish with a B&W diesel, built under licence by Kincaids.
BRITISH HOLLY (3)

O.N. 306308. 13,271g. 7,634n. 20,638d. 561' 0" x 73'9 " x 30' 2¼".
6-cyl. 2 S.C.S.A. (740 x 1600mm) B&W 6-74VT2BF-160 type oil engine manufactured by J. G. Kincaid & Company Ltd., Greenock. 7,500 BHP.

9.9.1964: Launched by Lithgows Ltd., Port Glasgow (Yard No. 1155), for the BP Tanker Company Ltd.

20.3.1965: Completed.

26.3.1965: Transferred to BP Thames Tanker Company Ltd.

1983: Sold to Nova Industria Armamento S.p.A., Italy, and renamed HUMANITAS.

1984: Sold to Marisud S.p.A., Italy, and renamed MARISUD PRIMA.

1988: Sold to Misano di Navigazione S.p.A., Italy, and renamed LABRADOR.

1990: Sold to Anadolu Petrolleri-Ali Sukru Iskefyeli, Turkey, and renamed EMIRE.

1990: Sold to Seydi Reis Denizcilik Isletmesi A. S., (Genel Denizcilik Nakliyati A.S. (GEDEN LINE), managers, Turkey, and renamed PARA.

Still listed in Lloyd’s Register 2004/05.

alastairjs
24th January 2009, 14:55
Para, ex British Holly (3), arrived Aliaga 11.9.2006 for breaking.
Regards,
Alastair

peter83
24th January 2009, 15:57
If Ian was on A Holly 62/63 it couldn't have been the Lithgow one as she did not come into service until 1965. Also another well known Capetown photography co was The Table Bay Underway Company
Regards
Peter

hamishb
25th January 2009, 01:11
Sailed as junior eng. my first trip, on the Might for her last voyages, joined Swansea 25/07/60 and eventualy paid off at Troon for Ardrossan on 09/05/61.
When I get organised there are a few hairy stories about that old girl, a hard working but happy ship.

JAN_HONNINGSVAG
12th April 2013, 07:11
Hi all,

J.K. de Vries was another ship photographer at Cape Town in the 1960's.

I have several of his Shaw Savill images.

Good morning John Crossland, you have the email address of the JK de Vries photographer at Cape Town or other ship photographers?
Thank you for your attention.
Sincerely,
Jan Honningsvåg

ernhelenbarrett
12th April 2013, 08:26
British Holly looked just like British Gratitude/MAGQ but then they all looked about the same those days. Sailed on the Gratitude in 1954, she was the first to hav e BP shield put on the "lum"
Ern Barrett

R396040
12th April 2013, 15:07
I sailed on British Might as A/S in 1948, Abadan was main call of course in those days. We also did Red sea ports. Also took a cargo to NZ, remember it took nearly forty days at sea to Wellington /Auckland ? with Naval cargo ,with severe water shortages,many engine breakdowns. Couple of runs ashore but sailed back to Abadan on Christmas Eve I recall, no crew bars in those days either and feeding strict B.O,T.
Years after I wrote to BTC /BP ? and asked if they had a photo of her.Nice message with photo came later from PR department. She must have been new as the photo shows gun mounts, still war was still on when she was fitted out in ealy 1945/
Stuart

Hamish Mackintosh
12th April 2013, 16:37
Background is like Table Mountain Cape Town

Yes Cape Town ,I have the exact same picture of the British Reliance in the same place

Bill Hamilton-Sturdy
18th December 2013, 17:44
Was my first ship - joined I o G Nov 1960 and left late 1961. I attach a picture of her in Aarhus in early 1961 (I think). enjoy.

Bill H-S 2nd RO

Binnacle
21st December 2013, 15:18
I
Couple of runs ashore but sailed back to Abadan on Christmas Eve I recall, no crew bars in those days either and feeding strict B.O,T.
Stuart

Stuart,
You are not the first, nor perhaps the last, to comment on the low standard of provision rationing on BTC ships in those years, particularly for the unfortunate ratings. In these days the company was 51% owned by the British government so we cannot blame the greedy ship owner. I have fed better lying in the lee of an iceberg in the Southern Ocean aboard a whaling tanker than lying alongside in Williamson, Australia, aboard British Dragoon. Shame on them.