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Peter John
13th March 2005, 19:14
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Hello Salors (=D) and no, I'm not. Just being friendly.
I've been looking for anything about the Pakeha between 1895 and 1910 as my Grandfather served on her as engineer on the New Zealand run. He was Joseph Esau Spurgeon who later went to Egypt and ran the Alexandria Engineering works during the first war. Anyone got any info?
PJ

stevecz
13th March 2005, 21:09
My uncle sailed on her during WW2 when she was the Empire Pakeha.
I'm in the middle of tracing all his past ships and have, sofar, come across only one good site for this vessel.

http://www.shawsavillships.co.uk/pakeha.htm

Summary of the Pakeha:
1910 Passenger ship, Built by Harland & Wolff, Belfast.

1910 Named PAKEHA, owner Shaw, Savill & Albion Line.
1939 Acquired by British Admiralty and converted to copy of the Royal Sovereign Class Cruiser HMS REVENGE
1941 EMPIRE PAKEHA, taken over by Ministry Of War Transport but managed by Shaw, Savill & Albion, converted to cargo ship.
1946 PAKEHA, sold back to Shaw, Savill & Albion Line and used for meat storage.
1950 Scrapped, Briton Ferry.

Ron B Manderson
13th March 2005, 21:16
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Hello Salors (=D) and no, I'm not. Just being friendly.
I've been looking for anything about the Pakeha between 1895 and 1910 as my Grandfather served on her as engineer on the New Zealand run. He was Joseph Esau Spurgeon who later went to Egypt and ran the Alexandria Engineering works during the first war. Anyone got any info?
PJ
Bet you never thought you would get your answer SO quick .
Welcome to the freindly site where you are who you are . And thats good enough for us
Ron
Nick named Batman or fixer Please yourself but welcome
Good show again lads .

Peter John
14th March 2005, 07:45
Hi people
Thanks for answering. I don't think that the ship which was renamed Empire Pakeha was the same one. There were a number of Pakehas and the one I belive I'm talking about was chartered to Russia and called the Lizanka, in 1911 was returned and became Broderick and finally the poor old girl was torpedoed off Hastings in 1918. Can you verify any of that?
PJ
PS At that time there were no regulations governing different ships being called by the same name.

stevecz
14th March 2005, 09:56
It must be this one then.
http://www.shawsavillships.co.uk/pakeha_1.htm
also
http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/lines/bluestar.html#Lizanka

There appears to be a conflict of her fate after 1918.
Don't you love it when this happens?

Peter John
15th March 2005, 15:10
I know the Pakeha_1.htm, that's my picture. As I said there was more than one Pakeha. The painting of Pakeha_1 is the Pakeha that was torpedoed and sunk. The other that became the Empire Pakeha was scrapped.
Anybody old enough out there to remember the New Zealand lamb run?
PJ