Crescent Shipping

NORDICA
25th June 2007, 09:45
does anyone in here know the names of the vessels in the crescent fleet past and presant?
looking to compile a list but its an uphill struggle!

Peter4447
25th June 2007, 10:18
1956/1958

Cresence
Dominence
Eminence
Faience
Gardience
Halcience
Insistence
Jubilence
Kindrence
Luminence
Militence
Ordinence

All of these, with the exception of the 'Ordinence' which I never 'spotted' in my happy days of youth would have visited Ipswich sometime between 1955 and 1960.

By 1962 you can add in the Nasence, Pertinence and Quiescence.

Peter4447(Thumb)

NORDICA
25th June 2007, 10:45
good man. this is bloody hard work!
my nephew is taken with the crescent ships, he likes the names and colour. pity they no longer trade

Thamesphil
25th June 2007, 13:07
Hi Nordica,

Crescent Shipping (or London & Rochester Trading Co. Ltd.) owned and operated probably 200+ coasters, barges and motor barges in their time so you have an uphill struggle to say the least. Have you tried searching for any books on the company? The WSS often produced monographs for particular shipping companies which included full, historic fleet lists. I don't know for sure if they ever did one for Crescent, but you could do a bit of Googling, as well as searching eBay and the on-line out of print bookseller, Abebooks. Alternatively, Ian Allan produced regular pocket books during the 50s/60s which included ones on coaster fleets. Marinart took over from where Ian Allan left off in the 1970s. Again, you could try searching the web for some of these books too.

Cheers
Phil

ruud
25th June 2007, 14:32
Ahoy,
There is a good site on the web,for used & out of print books,if they can't find one,you should give up trying to search further.
Got this link from an antiquarian,who helped me out sometimes with old bygone books.
http://used.addall.com/ (http://used.addall.com/)

NORDICA
25th June 2007, 16:16
cant find a thing. so i think its time to give up.
got more names but it still looks woefully incomplete!

Bruce Carson
25th June 2007, 16:34
Nordica:
The names of some of their motorized barges may be found on this URL:

http://www.sky-net.org.uk/kelvin/articles/boats2.html

Bruce C

NORDICA
25th June 2007, 19:16
good man!
now to try and find the ships!

STRAWBERRY
25th June 2007, 19:23
"Crescent Beaune" Pronounced "Bone" is the station Bunker Barge at Portland in Dorset. It is working for Portland Bunkers International. Click on www.portland-port.co.uk for more info. Cheers Andy,
I did hear that they were all being renamed "Clipper" eg, "Clipper Beaune"

Richie2012
25th June 2007, 21:09
crescent was bought out by clipper wonsild and only two vessels now with a prefix of Crescent all the rest are mainly clipper, crescent did have starch or was it yeast carriers that were operated out of Otterham quay on the Medway, one of the vessels had a fire onboard the vessel which was i think from the machinary onboard and with loss of lives and crescent stopped havig these carriers.
Also do u want to know all the thames sailing barges as well
Richie

NORDICA
25th June 2007, 22:03
if i can yes. its looking like a huge list to be honest!(EEK)

lagerstedt
26th June 2007, 03:47
Hi there
I have a small book called Coastal Ships, By D.Ridley Chesterton, Published by, Ian Allan of London. I obtained the book in 1966 so it will out of date by now. London and Rochester Trading Co Ltd are on pages 52 and 159. In addition to the ones above you can add,
Elation, built 1963, 212 gross tons, 99 ft long and 22 ft wide and engines aft.
Function, built 1963, 210 gross tons, 99 ft long, 22 ft wide and engines aft.
Under two 200tons you have the following.
Action Bastion
Diction
Gillation
Gold
Marie May
Naughton
Nicola Dawn
Pepita
Servic
Silver and many others
They also had Tugs,
Dragette, built 1947 or 50 tons and 300 brake or shaft horse power
Also had small tugs like the Goaxette, Nudgette,Shovette and Snatchette

Regards
Blair
NZ

lagerstedt
26th June 2007, 03:58
Inaddition to the above post see the attached photo and house flag

Regards
Blair
NZ

shippix
26th June 2007, 05:59
I was on board Halcience in about 1962, catering. Joined her at Holman's dry dock Penzance Cornwall England. She was on deep water articles and went to the continent and to Norway and around Cape North to the back and beyond at the top end of Russia for timber. Came back to Wisbech. As it was about three weeks since the crew had had a run ashore, it was straight to the pub ! At about 0100 hrs in the morning there was a splash as Paddy failed to find the gangway and ended up in the dock ! In the morning a search was made of the ship for another member who was found sitting on the bog asleep with his trousers around his ankles, been there for several hours apparently. Good Fun.
There is a pic of Halcience on the site.

Best wishes
Shippix

Thamesphil
26th June 2007, 09:10
crescent was bought out by clipper wonsild and only two vessels now with a prefix of Crescent all the rest are mainly clipper, crescent did have starch or was it yeast carriers that were operated out of Otterham quay on the Medway, one of the vessels had a fire onboard the vessel which was i think from the machinary onboard and with loss of lives and crescent stopped havig these carriers.
Also do u want to know all the thames sailing barges as well
Richie


Yes, Crescent was actually bought by Clipper a few years back, but kept the Crescent name and a chartering office in Southampton. In fact, a former colleage of mine was their chartering director. However, with the acquisition of Wonsild, Clipper rebranded their whole tanker operation Clipper Wonsild Tankers and renamed all the ships "Clipper". The office at Southampton has now come under the reins of Crescent Marine Services, which is the U.K. technical management arm of Clipper, but chartering is transferred elsewhere.

As for the starch vessel, that was the "Resilence". I have a photo of her already posted on this site, laid up on the Medway after the fire. You can view it by going to my gallery.

Cheers,
Phil

Richie2012
26th June 2007, 13:54
These are some of the tugs they had.
Snatchette was with london rochester trading company betwen 1953 and 1983
Enticette was with london rochester trading company betwen 1953 and 1964
Shovette was built by london rochester trading company in 1974 and was with london rochester trading company betwen 1984 and 1998
Dragette was with london rochester trading company betwen 1947 and 1983
Lashette sister ship to Shovette was with london rochester trading company betwen 1971 and 1998
Pullette was with london rochester trading company betwen 1940 and 1958 ?
Shovette (Yardette II ) the first one was with london rochester trading company betwen 1958 and ?
Luggette was with london rochester trading company betwen 1973 and 1987
Do you also want to know what other tugs they also built?
Infomation from riverman.gotdns.com/gallery/

Richie

treeve
5th July 2007, 18:36
Hello - I am trying to help someone to find details of the ships
his great grandfather sailed with ...
He lists
Crescent Coasters GARDIENCE (1952 worked) ON182212
and MILITENCE (1957 worked) ON187206
Please can anyone help with details and history?
Best Wishes, Raymond

Richie2012
5th July 2007, 18:56
http://merchant-navy.net/Pictures/gardience.html

janathull
6th July 2007, 07:02
H Nordica,
I sailed in a ship called Nascence twice in the early seventies who belonged to London and Rochester who later became Crescent. Regards janathull

NORDICA
10th July 2007, 22:21
hi guys im back.
the info is most helpful.
what was crescent like to work for?

vectiscol
11th July 2007, 22:59
I did some work on the three sister tankers of "Crescent Beaune" during their construction at Rousse Shipyard in Bulgaria in the winter of 2006, including changing the names to the Clipper prefix, and the paint specification to the Danish company's livery of lighter blue hull and cream upperworks.

janathull
12th July 2007, 06:07
I fopund the Nascence very good hence going in her twice, we had a good time and the crew were excellent. Regards Jan.

PollY Anna
29th July 2007, 18:08
Hi NORDICA

Did 2 London & Rochester ships 1) the Ordinence 28/11/62 to 21/12/62 only ship I was seasick on 2) Faience 23/12/63 to 17/01/64 nearly got a DR off that one. The Ordinence was 321 gross tonnage L 137' x B 24'+ x D approx 9' so you can see that she was no bigger than a barge. The Faience was bigger, 552 Gross tonnage L 188' x B 27'+ x D 11'+ both my mate and I joined at the London office just before Christmas and they gave us our tickets and even laid on the Company Rolls Royce to take us to Paddington Station, she was in Newport South Wales, I think they thought as it was so near Christmas we might not join the ship hence the Roller I don' know if that helps with what you are doing, but there is a Photo on Brians site of the Faience it also shows both my mate and I on deck we were running down the Thames, we had just unloaded at Erith.

Ron

callpor
9th August 2007, 16:02
does anyone in here know the names of the vessels in the crescent fleet past and presant?
looking to compile a list but its an uphill struggle!

If you look on the ClipperWonsild website www.clipperwonsild.com you will be able to see the present fleet operated by the sucessor of Crescent Shipping viz Clipper Marine Services in Southampton. It also provides you with the company history etc. and access to Newsletters.
Perhaps if you give them a call in Southampton on + 44 238063 9777 you may be able to find access to historic fleet details. Try asking for Barbara Peacock - she was the MD's PA when they were Thames managed and long before the days of Clipper, but was still their a short while ago.

Here is the present fleet technically managed by Clipper Marine Services (DK in Copenhagen) & (UK in Southampton) but not including SeaTruck, another part of the group.

Epoxy coated tonnage
Built: DWT: Tech. Mgmt:
CLIPPER KARINA Chemical Tanker 2006 11,420 DK
CLIPPER KITTY Chemical Tanker 2007 11,321 DK
CLIPPER KRISTIN Chemical Tanker 2006 11,316 DK
CLIPPER KRYSTAL Chemical Tanker 2006 11,316 DK
CLIPPER KIRA Chemical Tanker 2007 11,298 DK
CLIPPER KAREN Chemical Tanker 2006 11,290 DK
CLIPPER KATE Chemical Tanker 2006 11,259 DK
CLIPPER KLARA Chemical Tanker 2007 11,259 DK
CLIPPER KYLIE Chemical Tanker 2007 11,259 DK
CLIPPER BARDOLINO Chemical Tanker 2007 3,548 UK
CLIPPER BURGUNDY Chemical Tanker 2007 3,543 UK
CLIPPER BARBERA Chemical Tanker 2006 3,520 UK
CLIPPER BAROLO Chemical Tanker 2005 3,520 UK
CRESCENT BEAUNE Chemical Tanker 2005 3,500 UK
CLIPPER BORDEAUX Chemical Tanker 2005 3,491 UK
CLIPPER HIGHLANDER Chemical Tanker 2003 1,860 UK
CRESCENT CAMILLA Chemical Tanker 1998 1,706 UK
BREAKSEA Chemical Tanker 1985 1,674 UK

Marineline coated tonnage
Built: DWT: Tech. Mgmt:
CLIPPER LEADER Chemical Tanker 2004 10,127 DK
CLIPPER LEANDER Chemical Tanker 2006 10,098 DK
CLIPPER LEGEND Chemical Tanker 2004 10,052 DK
CLIPPER LEGACY Chemical Tanker 2004 10,051 DK
CLIPPER LANCER Chemical Tanker 2006 9,970 DK
CLIPPER LOYALTY Chemical Tanker 2007 9,941 DK
CLIPPER CUILLIN Chemical Tanker 2005 3,512 UK

Stainless steel tonnage
Built: DWT: Tech. Mgmt:
CLIPPER TROJAN Chemical Tanker 1996 15,313 DK
CLIPPER TOBAGO Chemical Tanker 1999 8,834 DK
CLIPPER TRINIDAD Chemical Tanker 1998 8,823 DK
CLIPPER HELLE Chemical Tanker 1991 3,294 DK

Zink coated tonnage
Built: DWT: Tech. Mgmt:
ELLA WONSILD Chemical Tanker 1990 3,294 DK
LONE WONSILD Chemical Tanker 1990 3,282 DK
ANNA JOHANNE Chemical Tanker 1994 3,272 DK

With the Clipper money and amalgamation with Wonsild Crescent have certainly changed a lot from their days as Thames barge operators.

Hope this helps a little, Brgds, Chris Allport

NORDICA
12th August 2007, 02:12
your a star. is there any whole owned british coaster companies left? now lapthorns have gone i cant think of any!

Richie2012
12th August 2007, 12:52
Lapthorn is still going but now as coastal bulk shipping
Richie

captkenn
30th August 2007, 22:12
Saw no mention of the Pertinence. I did a short spell of about a fortnight relief on her in 1967.

CommonFamily
5th October 2007, 06:03
This post brings back some old memories for me.

I used to work for Crescent Shipping at Strood, Rochester Kent, back in about 1969?. I was just a 16 yr old costing clerk in the shipyard office, but I knew all the boats names, and numbers, back then. I recall that many ended in "ence", but my memory is failing me now.

Ambience, Blatence, Cadence, Dominence & Eloquence started the alphabet...

Some of the older London & Rochester Trading Company barges are listed at: http://www.thamesbarge.org.uk/barges/Willmott/owners/FWlrtc.html

The Pudge built 1922 by London & Rochester Trading company
http://nationalhistoricships.org.uk/index.cfm/event/getVessel/vref/224

There is a picture of "The Cabby" a 1928 barge, in the livery of Crescent Shipping at http://bargetrust.org/active_barges.html

I am trying to remember the name of the one we launched while I was there, but all I can recall is that the bottle didn't break when it should have done!

ray bloomfield
1st November 2007, 19:09
Lapthorns is now Coastal Bulk Shipping, same office etc and whooly British owned, they now have 10 of the original barg sorry ships trading.

cboots
2nd November 2007, 05:15
Crescent had two vessels converted for the bulk starch trade the Resilience and the Resurgence. The Resurgence had a nasty fire in the accomodation whilst alongside her discharge port of Howdendyke, up the Ouse from Goole, which sadly cost the life of the young second mate. This would have been towards the end of the seventies, 78 or 79 at a guess.
CBoots

elcocherro
3rd February 2008, 13:04
does anyone in here know the names of the vessels in the crescent fleet past and presant?
looking to compile a list but its an uphill struggle!

Hi
I Can tell you just a little, I used to own the ACTION I bought it from a company that traded in the Liverpool area, we took delivery at FRODSHAM on the river Weaver, and were due to load stone in Wales, But fate interveaned , If any bodys intersted its a long tale !!
The DICTION is at this moment tied up in Truro and for sale

Best Regards John..

SALTY
3rd February 2008, 14:28
Found these in an old book called British Coastal Ships,Tugs & Trawlers,by Gilbert Mayes.First published 1975.

Amience
Andescol
Bastion
Bencol
Blatence
Cadence
Caption
Cecil Gilders
Crescence
Dangeld (white hull)
Diction
Dominence
Elation
Eloquence
Faience
Fallow Deer
Function
Gardience
Gillation
Halcience
Horation
Ignition
Josh Francis
Jubilation
Kiption

Dragette
Lashette
Luggette ex superb - 1973.

K Handley
24th February 2008, 20:02
Hi Nordica, I work for the ex Lapthorn fleet, now Coastal Bulk Shipping, and unless they are keeping me in the dark about something, they are still wholly owned in Britian. I also worked for Crescent on there barges and coasters, they were fine, their nickname was Ali baba and the Forty Thieves, does that give you a small insight/ You have covered a fair few of there fleet, if any more com to mind I will let you know, Keith

sandman
24th February 2008, 20:17
Remember most of the crescent vessels running into yelland power station in the seventies.sometimes two at a time on the berth and another 3 in the bay waiting,and sometimes on a turnaround.And If I was really lucky i would go out on the pilot boat with them to drop or pick up the pilot.

Barry Man
24th February 2008, 22:02
your a star. is there any whole owned british coaster companies left? now lapthorns have gone i cant think of any!

Faversham Ships Ltd is based on the Isle of Wight and is prospering. We also have Torbulk, based in Grimsby. There is also the Rix company and Whitakers (Tankers) Ltd, both based in Hull.

Can I suggest that you start to buy "Coastal Shipping" magazine. This will answer many of your questions. Fleet lists were also published in "Short Sea Shipping" booklets, published between 1995 and 2000. These were much improved versions of the old Ian Allan and Marinart booklets.

ray bloomfield
25th February 2008, 20:56
Hi
I Can tell you just a little, I used to own the ACTION I bought it from a company that traded in the Liverpool area, we took delivery at FRODSHAM on the river Weaver, and were due to load stone in Wales, But fate interveaned , If any bodys intersted its a long tale !!
The DICTION is at this moment tied up in Truro and for sale

Best Regards John..

Did anyone ever get the Action to steer in a straight line?

2548hopw
26th February 2008, 23:33
Rumour as it there was one called "Flatulence" but I never saw it... My favourite Crescent ship was "ROFFEN" which I would estimate at about 200t. I even named a dog of mine after it, It was a scruffy old mongrel !!!1

ray bloomfield
28th February 2008, 17:21
the Roffen was the only barge built that had single pull Mcgegor hatches, no chains linking them, one hatch closed and rerig the wire, slower to cover up than carling or domino hatches, an when she had a load line she lifted 250 ton

MightyHood
10th March 2008, 22:57
A couple more ships,Banwell and Barmouth

vasco
10th March 2008, 23:08
Try James Fisher Everards, although can't vouch for the nationalities of the shareholders http://www.james-fisher.co.uk/ :-)

2548hopw
23rd March 2008, 22:56
Didnt the Roffen ve a sister called Rommel ?

callpor
24th March 2008, 20:28
Try James Fisher Everards, although can't vouch for the nationalities of the shareholders http://www.james-fisher.co.uk/ :-)

Vasco, you're losing the thread. The remnents of Crescent Shipping are now owned by the Danish Clipper group and operate under the ClipperWonsild Tankers banner. Brgds Chris Allport

Barry Man
25th March 2008, 01:12
I think he is answering Nordica's question about are there any wholly-owned British coaster companies left.

storming
27th March 2008, 12:45
hi i remember a couple not on the list when i was on coasters in the early 80ies
Cadence,
Ambience not sure about the spelling lol ?
Norm

Richie2012
28th March 2008, 12:43
I think he is answering Nordica's question about are there any wholly-owned British coaster companies left.

COASTAL BULK SHIPPING, all british flagged, all british built ships

Richie

Andy_Thomson
3rd April 2008, 20:03
Here are the ones I can remember from my time with Crescent.

Ambience - Built 1983, O.N 702679
Boisterence - Built 1983
Crescence - Built 1983 O.N 398048 (number faded, best I can make out)
Tarquence - Built 1983

The above were sisters 492GRT around 800dwt, "jumboised" around 89/90 to make them 1000dwt

Militence - Built 1978 O.N 378943
Nascence - Built 1978 O.N 378946
Piquence - Built 1978 O.N 378959
Quiescence - Built 1978 O.N 378962

Again the above were sisters About 950GRT and 1300 dwt, about the same size and age were the:

Yulence
Zeelence

Four more sisters were the 1800 dwt sea snakes:

Turbulence
Stridence
Urgence
Vibrence

All built early 1980s.

The two "Big" ones, about 3000 dwt were.

Luminence
Kinderence

Both built mid to late 70s.


Tankers: Crescent inherited the tankers (around 1990) through a merger with Bowker and King under the then parent group Hays.

Blackrock - Built 1989 O.N 717140
Brabourne - Built 1989 O.N 717041

These sisters were the two largest (around 2500 dwt) at the time. There were lots more tankers all begining with B, I will leave them for a B&K man to fill in.

Build dates are all approximate, Official Numbers are from my discharge book.

Andy

Alan Parsons
20th April 2008, 07:49
I have a complete fleet list for Crescent dating from the mid 1980's with detailed descriptions of the ships/barges/tugs both owned and managed. I will post it hopefully later this week but I'm a bit pushed for time at the moment.

Alan

Alan Parsons
20th April 2008, 21:21
I have a copy of a booklet prepared bt Crescent in the mid 1980's which was aimed at potential customers and details all vessels owned or managed.

KINDRENCE (1976)
LUMINENCE (1976)
dwc3100 tons, loa 91.2m beam 13.2m draft 5.14m Speed 13knots

RESILIENCE (1969)
Bulk powder tanker dwc 1200 tons loa 63.3m beam 11.3m draft 4.1m Speed 12.5knots

STRIDENCE (1983)
TURBULENCE (1983)
URGENCE (1981)
VIBRENCE (1981)
dwc 1800 loa 84.8m beam 11.4m draft 3.45m Speed 11 knots

EMINENCE (1969)
SENTENCE (1974)
dwc 1570 tons loa 67.8m beam 11.6m draft 4.2m Speed 101/2 knots

MILITENCE (1978)
NASCENCE (1978)
YULENCE (1979)
ZEALENCE (1979)
PIQUENCE (1979) dwc1375
QUIESENCE (1979) dwc 1375
dwc 1300 loa 71.4m beam 11.2m draft 3.3m speed 10knots

AMBIENCE (1983)
BOISTERENCE (1983)
CRESCENCE (1982)
TARQUENCE (1980)
dwc 800 tons loa 49.9m beam 9.2m draft 3.35m speed 10knots

INSISTENCE (1975)
JUBILENCE (1975)
ORDINENCE (1978)
dwc 700 tons loa 49.9 m beam 8.8m draft 3.2m Speed 10 knots

DOMINENCE (1970)
FAIENCE (1969)
GARDIENCE (1969)
HALCIENCE (1970)
WESTERENCE (1977) dwc 650
XANTHENCE (1977) dwc 650
PAMEAD (1963) dwc 620 (Freight managed for Capt. A.Whiting)
THEO (1963) dwc 620 (Freight managed for Gardscreen Ltd.)
dwc 600 tons loa 45.4 m beam 8.24m draft 3.25m Speed 9.5 knots

BLATENCE (1969)
CADENCE (1969)
ELOQUENCE (1969)
GINO (1969) Freight managed for Gardscreen Ltd.
JO (1955) " " " " "
dwc 580 (Jo 540) loa 44.4m beam 7.8m draft 3.2m Speed 9 knots

JUBILATION (1967)
BENCOL (1964)
KIPTION (1968)
LIBATION (1969)
ANDESCOL (1961) Freight managed for Capt. A. Pratt
SUBRO VENTURE (1971) Freight managed for Sully Freight
SUBRO VESTA (1965) " " " " "
CONTACT (1950) Freight managed for Capt. R. Mullett
dwc 275 (with slight variations) loa 32.2m beam 6.85m draft 2.6m Speed 8 knots

Motor Barges
FUNCTION, GILLATION, LOACH, LOBE, LOCATOR LODELLA, ROFFEN, ROGUL ROHOY. (All owned by Crescent)
BEAM, BRANDRAM, FLAGON, LAFFORD, WALLBROOK (Managed)
dwc varied between 240 and 400 tons.

Tugs
LASHETTE 730bhp
SHOVETTE 730 bhp
LUGGETTE 650 bhp
NUDGETTE 66bhp.

Auxillary SailinG Barge
CABBY Passenger certificate for 36 persons.

I believe this fleet list dates from 1985 but can't be absolutely certain as the booklet is undated.

Regards

Alan Parsons

Steve Hodges
4th January 2009, 14:32
One more name for you, Nordica, that hasn't been mentioned yet from the old LRTC days. The "MAYES BROOK" used to run regularly to Southend Gasworks when I was a lad in the early 60s. There were others too but I can't recall names. As the gasworks jetty berth dried out completely you could walk right round any vessel berthed there when the tide went out - fascinating for small boys!

Minto
4th January 2009, 15:35
I sailed on the "Halcience" in 1967. She was built in 1947, was 1000 tons & the chief engineer was permanent & in love with his engine room. In fact the engine room was in fantastic condition. All brightwork gleaming & spotless. Only on her for a short while as I crushed my fingers whilst dumping atomic waste in bad weather in the Bay of Biscay. Taken ashore by lifeboat to hospital in Penzance.

Minto

CAPILANO
4th January 2009, 15:41
Sandman
Was interested in your posting re LRTC vessels running in to Yelland. Being from Appledore,Reardon Smith would release me to obtain short amounts of qualifying seatime before sitting my tickets. I was Mate in the "Militence" in 1956 (Capt George Rayner) and again in the "Halcience"(Capt John Harris) Vernon, his brother, was senior pilot/harbourmaster whom you might know. One of my Uncles, Jim Cox was piloting till his retirement- probably before your time? Later pilots were John Hopkins/Colin Darch both ex Smiths a
Apprentices. I seem to recall that in the early days of Yelland getting going, the two vessels regularly coming in was J
"Jubilence" and "Kindrence", both ex Dutch coasters.
Kind regards
John Cann

GALTRA
10th January 2009, 18:08
From Llyod's List of Shipowners 1957/58. All the best, Charley

istephens
22nd August 2010, 12:50
ambience is another one for the list regards ian s

marco nista
22nd August 2010, 13:33
I was deck boy on the HALCIENCE & FAIENCE as 'holiday jobs' 1959/60 when I was doing my R/O training.
The rate of 4/2/7 a week, with 30 bob deduction for grub has always stuck in my mind.

HALCIENCE was on a regular run to Instow power station [North Devon] from South Wales ports [mostly Barry] & FAIENCE went all over the place during the time I was aboard - Deptford Creek, Dover, Barking Creek, Vlaardingen, Ghent, St.Samson, Plymouth, Dunston Staithes etc. I have a list of all the ports somewhere.

The CRESCENT CAMILLA had a spell working in Dover as a bunker barge for the ferries a few years back. [see 'Tanker' gallery, post by PAUL0510].

The current Dover bunker barge is the CORAL WATERS with CLIPPER BORDEAUX as floating storage.

73s

Marco

tcpsheldrake
1st January 2011, 18:00
does anyone in here know the names of the vessels in the crescent fleet past and presant?
looking to compile a list but its an uphill struggle!

I worked both these Vessels

1/ Jubilation 1969
2/ Lodella about 1970 we took her from the builders at Hull.

Gulpers
1st January 2011, 18:03
I worked both these Vessels

1/ Jubilation 1969
2/ Lodella about 1970 we took her from the builders at Hull.

tcpsheldrake,

On behalf of the SN Moderating Team, a warm welcome aboard from the Isle of Anglesey!
You will thoroughly enjoy your time on SN and get many happy hours entertainment from your membership. (Thumb)

robin
1st January 2011, 19:05
Has enybody spotted a new book out called 'Crescent Shipping' by Ken Garrett, published last December. Ken has done a great job listing all vessels in detail along with a full company history.
I served my Apprenticeship as a Shipwright with the old London & Rochester Trading Co., at their Quarry Yard at Strood 1956 - 62 and worked on many listed in his book, well worth a read !
Robin.

Glyn Howell
2nd January 2011, 11:46
What a wonderful thread this has been. I joined the Ordinence at Otterham Quay in 1969. This vessel had been built either during the war or soon after. The Skipper was a certain Louis Gavano, he had a broad Cardiff accent and spoke french with a perfect French accent due to the fact that his family were from the Commargue in Southern France and came over during the 1920's depression. We were on a weekly Liner Service between Otterham Quay and Ostend and on a 60/40 share of cargo profits. From our 40% we had to pay the skipper, mate and third hand, gasoil and food. We kept the bogey stove going using the broken scraps of chipboard cargo, my goodness it kept the central heating hot. Louis and myself shared the skipper's place when we had time off.

I remember a new vessel arriving that was designed for the potato starch trade, all the bigwigs were there on the quay. The pump room was kept under vacuum or pressure, entered through an air lock, but someone forgot this and half the cargo came out of vents and the bigwigs were showered in potato starch. There was another one knocking about called the Danegeld, I just cannot remember if this was a Crescent.

I cannot remember if it was the Libation that was fixed up for running GPO cable across various sea spaces. It was a great year and I made many friends on theses vessels, but believe it or not I came straight from Deep Sea with a Mates Ticket! It certainly opened my eyes.

Glyn Howell

berniedonnelly
13th January 2011, 20:01
joined the Nascence in 1977 i think,at fleetwood,then onto the militence,joined at shoreham ,sailed to warren point just after the bomb at the 1st n last pub,we then ran regular from great yarmouth to cork with grain for gilby's distillery,very short time on the emenance out of seafroth dock liverpool... they were both nigh on brand new at the time and very well equiped, didnt much like doing the cookin etc as a decky lol but everyone mucked in....
very good memories.


bernie

thedon59
8th February 2011, 21:23
The Ordinence was bought by Dennisons of Orkney and renamed the Kava Sound. Had some good times sailing on her.

dave3996
19th March 2011, 23:34
Saw the Ordinence a couple of years ago, running stone around Mull. She now has a small bucket crane on her deck. Fantastic seeing the old names again, I had some wonderful times onboard these flat irons. My first ship was the Nascence with Harley True (Captain) and his wife Nancy (I think my memory serves me right). I then went on to sail on The Crescence, Tarquence, Ambience, Boisterence (Captain Chris Bell), Stridence, Kinderence, Luminence, Zealence and Quescence and Ordinence. A name i have not seen is the Westerence, she was similar to the Ordinence. I live close to a retired Humber pilot and he remembers Crescent's coasters as 'red devils'.

merrymac
23rd March 2011, 11:24
crescent was bought out by clipper wonsild and only two vessels now with a prefix of Crescent all the rest are mainly clipper, crescent did have starch or was it yeast carriers that were operated out of Otterham quay on the Medway, one of the vessels had a fire onboard the vessel which was i think from the machinary onboard and with loss of lives and crescent stopped havig these carriers.
Also do u want to know all the thames sailing barges as well
Richie

"resilience" ran to otterham quay from delfzil in holland
"resurgence" from same place to howdendyke near goole,she was self discharging to the tate and lyle glucose factory closed in early 80's. she did indeed catch fire,the mate peter north "ginger" died fighting the fire, rest of crew escaped. I sailed on her as chief eng. thankfully before the fire, unusual vessel built in budapest 1965 for norwegians, ice class spec. did world wide trading, bought by crescent '75 converted to starch carrier. towed to medway after fire and broken up.

Robert Hilton
23rd March 2011, 12:32
I sailed on an ex Scandinavian Luminence in the 60's.

You may contact ex London Rochester/Crescent hands on www.rock-dodgers.

John Lightbown
7th July 2012, 19:41
Both the Insistence and Jubilence are alive and well In Miami Haiti trade both had changed flags to Belize and then Honduras Insistence was named D Only One and Jubilence Only One D
i bought Jublence and renamed her JUBILENCE about five to six years ago and sold to the Bahamas later

Tony Poston
26th July 2012, 13:10
No one has mentioned the "Jostrica" we sailed under the cresent flag and it was Part owned by im sure by the owner of Cresent or at least one of the directors he lived in a big house high on a hill overlooking the medway and he had a son called Ric who was a deckhand The ship was named after the captain "John" first mate "Steve" and "Ric" Ric was not the brightest button in the box and i think hes dad had bought the ship to give him a job !!!! i joined at Mistly Quay (essex) in spring1978 and was on board for about a year....at christmas 78 the ship went in for repair at Queensbough and we all spent the night at the big house with Rics family... i have plenty of memories on that ship and some pretty incredible stories which i wont bore you with (unless you ask) and so glad i found this site

Tony

John Hope
4th August 2012, 09:33
Had located a picture of "Eloquence" leaving PAR in 1974, or thereabouts, what a state she looked !! a realy rust bucket. When I was on her in '69 she was gleaming and well serviced. What happened to the pride ???

A.D.FROST
4th August 2012, 10:40
Had located a picture of "Eloquence" leaving PAR in 1974, or thereabouts, what a state she looked !! a realy rust bucket. When I was on her in '69 she was gleaming and well serviced. What happened to the pride ???

Still going! as the PETER PRIOR(Thumb)

David W
4th August 2012, 11:11
For the full history of this company see "CRESCENT SHIPPING" by K.S.(Ken) Garrett, published by Ships in Focus Publications.

Best Wishes

David W

sandman
4th August 2012, 21:18
Sandman
Was interested in your posting re LRTC vessels running in to Yelland. Being from Appledore,Reardon Smith would release me to obtain short amounts of qualifying seatime before sitting my tickets. I was Mate in the "Militence" in 1956 (Capt George Rayner) and again in the "Halcience"(Capt John Harris) Vernon, his brother, was senior pilot/harbourmaster whom you might know. One of my Uncles, Jim Cox was piloting till his retirement- probably before your time? Later pilots were John Hopkins/Colin Darch both ex Smiths a
Apprentices. I seem to recall that in the early days of Yelland getting going, the two vessels regularly coming in was J
"Jubilence" and "Kindrence", both ex Dutch coasters.
Kind regards
John Cann
I know both John and Vernon also John Hopkins and Colin Darch, Jim was known as paddy cox was'nt He?.

stores
5th August 2012, 00:17
there were 3 that tied up at the gasworks jetty at southend, Beverley Brook, Mayes Brook and Wallbrook.

jerry keen
7th August 2012, 01:47
your a star. is there any whole owned british coaster companies left? now lapthorns have gone i cant think of any!

John H Whitaker, Hull.

Principally a bunkering outfit but dabbles in coasting-privately owned by the Whitaker family

John Hope
9th August 2012, 09:20
Here is a picture of Eloquence..

Runrig
14th August 2012, 22:16
John H Whitaker, Hull.

Principally a bunkering outfit but dabbles in coasting-privately owned by the Whitaker family

"Dabbles in coasting" - I'm not sure what you mean. The company operates a fleet of bunkering tankers.

British companies operating dry cargo coasters include Faversham Ships Ltd, Carisbrooke, Scotline, Torbulk, Union Transport, Great Glen Shipping - and not forgetting Ramsey Steamship and Mezeron in the Isle of Man.

Joe w
15th August 2012, 07:03
"Dabbles in coasting" - I'm not sure what you mean. The company operates a fleet of bunkering tankers.

British companies operating dry cargo coasters include Faversham Ships Ltd, Carisbrooke, Scotline, Torbulk, Union Transport, Great Glen Shipping - and not forgetting Ramsey Steamship and Mezeron in the Isle of Man.

Yes british flag ships but last Carrisbrook ship alongside us with pipes didn't have a brit on board would expect others to be the same know Union Transport is same and most UT are foreign flag now anyway.
Whitakers last time spoke to a guy who worked for them still crewed with Brits on board.

John Hope
15th August 2012, 11:06
"Eloquence" changed her name 4 times and finally became PETER PRIOR, she has been broken up, on side of a creek oppersite the Dome on the Thames. Very sad, but all our homes are gone these days ............

Tony Geeves
12th December 2012, 09:22
Just looking through my D.B. and noted I was on the "Fallow Deer" in 1979 and the company stamp records it as Crescent Shipping. I can't remember very much about her, the minds shot!

Runrig
12th December 2012, 11:26
Yes british flag ships but last Carrisbrook ship alongside us with pipes didn't have a brit on board would expect others to be the same know Union Transport is same and most UT are foreign flag now anyway.
Whitakers last time spoke to a guy who worked for them still crewed with Brits on board.

I said "British companies". The list I gave was a list of British companies. The crewing and flagging out of the ships is a different matter altogether and partly reflects the support given to the merchant navy by successive governments of all parties.

A.D.FROST
12th December 2012, 15:37
Just looking through my D.B. and noted I was on the "Fallow Deer" in 1979 and the company stamp records it as Crescent Shipping. I can't remember very much about her, the minds shot!

To help your memory(Thumb)
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jopson
2nd January 2013, 17:11
Hi all, I worked in the late 60s early 70s started on the "NAUGHTON" did some relief work on the "LOBE" running to Rotterdam,mainly and in and around the SE coast.Thames and Medway,Went back to work on the "NAUGHTON" when she was sold to a private owner,although i was working for Crescent`s. That was a good time.The "LOBE" is now called the "MARK PRIOR" loading sand and ballast from Colchester then up to London.and still working.BJ

Steve Hodges
14th January 2013, 17:52
there were 3 that tied up at the gasworks jetty at southend, Beverley Brook, Mayes Brook and Wallbrook.

I was sure that I remembered these as running in LRTC colours, but Capt. Duncan Francis in his book " Out of Rochester - Memoirs of a Thames and Medway Barge Skipper" says that the trio were owned by River Lighterage Co and built specifically for the Becton - Southend coal run. Can anyone shed light on this?
I can certainly recommend the book ( I think it's out of print but I got mine from e-bay) - the grammar and punctuation is sometimes a little erratic, but it is a great evocation of working life on the small motor barges of the LRTC/Crescent fleet. Capt. Francis sailed with them from pre-war until 1984.

tolka
25th January 2013, 18:53
good day all

I inspected the "Westerence" ex gainsboro miller at battersea on the hard
complete dry out in july 1987 and then purchased her in sept same year

ted pike was the snp broker a true gent ..

Conditions of sale from Crescent tech director Mr Tait was too change
the hull colours from red to whatever colour I prefered ..... who pays says I?
no answer.... slipped her at strood and managed to get painting and slipping
costs from them due hogg.... remember superinendant McKay with no
fond memories of saturday morning downpour and no sign of my bill of sale ....
he tried old trick of soft cap stuffing on blocks to hide the hogg ... imagine
trying to bluff a drydock company owner with that old chestnut..

anyway had good 5 years out of her except for the "BlackPig " inside ful pump
Blackstone... eventually a Stork.... no more dry sumps

Does anybody know if David Breaksspear is about these days ,

rgds
Tolka

Jed Partington
1st March 2013, 10:48
In the early 70s I was apperentice marine engineer at the Strood Yard have fond memories of all the work undertaken in the yard and sculling between vessels on the bouys at Strood. Also the out jobs around the coast and in the london docks with Lou Bailey and Peter Burke. So many Crescent vessals moored side by side in the London Docks.

Pedro Barcos
13th March 2013, 04:41
Saw the Ordinence a couple of years ago, running stone around Mull. She now has a small bucket crane on her deck. Fantastic seeing the old names again, I had some wonderful times onboard these flat irons. My first ship was the Nascence with Harley True (Captain) and his wife Nancy (I think my memory serves me right). I then went on to sail on The Crescence, Tarquence, Ambience, Boisterence (Captain Chris Bell), Stridence, Kinderence, Luminence, Zealence and Quescence and Ordinence. A name i have not seen is the Westerence, she was similar to the Ordinence. I live close to a retired Humber pilot and he remembers Crescent's coasters as 'red devils'.
The westerence got sold to Tolka shipping Dublin and was called Eve Rita then she was renamed Mantan then renamed Avoca under that name she had an Arklow shippping connection,they sold here on to the French were she finished here days running from the french mainland to Belle isle, skipper on her when she was westerence i remember was Terry Uden, i heard somewhere the Capt Chris Bell passed away.

Pedro Barcos
13th March 2013, 04:43
Just looking through my D.B. and noted I was on the "Fallow Deer" in 1979 and the company stamp records it as Crescent Shipping. I can't remember very much about her, the minds shot!

Fallow Deer in those days would have been Capt Ted Long.

TEAPOT
2nd May 2013, 02:38
sailed in pertinence 17jan 5june 1964,normal run lon sugar refinery to blyth & back,one run to Dunkirk.capt harris was skipper for a while,huey Cullen mate.accommdation & food very good.