Vouge and vendee

christopher.ryan1
24th July 2007, 21:24
Would anybody have a picture of the Vouge and Vendee in there P&O colours.A friend of mine has them in other colours but not P&O.
many thanks.

patto
1st August 2007, 13:45
If you are prepared to pay - fotoflite have both the Vendee and the Vosges available in their White hull and "Carmel" funnel which they used on their trading runs to Israel.

ian d.cameron
1st August 2007, 20:32
hope this works
http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w313/Papahoots/Vendee.jpg

Doxfordman
2nd August 2007, 00:35
Taken after she was lenthened and the additional crane fitted. Fanstatic ships to sail on.

christopher.ryan1
2nd August 2007, 21:19
hope this works
http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w313/Papahoots/Vendee.jpg
Hi ian,
brilliant pic, many thanks,i'm collecting pics of old ships a mate of mine was on,will drop this down to him at the mission tomorrow.just the vouge to get now,plus the King Alfred and the Riverina.once again many thanks.
Chris.

ian d.cameron
2nd August 2007, 21:34
Glad it helped Christopher.
Doxfordman, when I joined her in 82 I must admit I never had so much fun handling cargo. The conveyer/lift system and the trolly forks were a wee bit different from the traditional ways I was used to.

ian d.cameron
2nd August 2007, 22:04
Hi Christopher just noticed the spelling.

Single Ship Report for "VOSGES"
IDNo: 7204411 Year: 1972
Name: VOSGES Launch Date: 1.2.72
Type: Cargo ship (ref) Date of completion: 9.11.72
Flag: GBR Keel:

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Tons: 6088 Link: 1496
DWT: 6606 Yard No: 45
Length overall: 132.3 Ship Design:
LPP: 122.6 Country of build:
Beam: 19.5 Builder: Swan Hunter
Material of build: Location of yard: South Shields
Number of
screws/Mchy/
Speed(kn): 1D-18

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Owner as Completed:
Naval or paramilitary marking :
A: *
End: 2004

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Subsequent History:
[1980 Lg 148.3/137.9m, 9207gt/8026dw] - 75 VOSGES - 86 GALIA CARMEL - 96 CARMEL EXOTIC

Disposal Data:
BU Alang 7.5.04

Doxfordman
3rd August 2007, 01:03
I was on the Zira - maiden voyage from the UK to Kiwi and the Crusader run, then again on the Vendee - on and off for about 18 months. I loved the ships - they were both great, big "little" ships.

Govanbill
4th December 2007, 11:32
Sailed on th Zaida in 74/75 when she was chartered to Cruisador. I have some piccies somewhere so watch this space

tom e kelso
3rd January 2008, 19:12
Agree they were splendid ships. Along with Charles Prescott and Arthur Sugden (both ex-Moss Hutcheson), I shared command of both between 1978 and 1982, while on the AGREXCO charter, Ashdod/Marseilles in winter (avacado season).Chief Officers included Les Hesketh (ex-Moss Hutcheson), the late Doug Perry (ex-P&O), Peter Hillman (ex-BI) with Chief Engineers, Colin Knill,(ex-BI), Noel Pickering (ex-BI) and Don Belton (ex-Hain) among others. Calcutta BI GP crew until 1980 thereafter UK-engaged.

Pilot mac
3rd January 2008, 19:32
Stood by both when laid up in Vigo, 76/77. At anchor for a couple of months in the bay, very pleasant.Sailed on Vendee to Cadiz for drydockng before commencing Ashdod to Marseilles shuttle. Was on her when she was almost lost in the Bonifacio Straits. Remember going to read the draft at the port of refuge, F 40ft plus A 19'6" ! Wish I had some pictures.

regards
Dave

Govanbill
12th January 2008, 19:31
The vibration on them was terrible.

Doxfordman
3rd February 2008, 21:27
Agree they were splendid ships. Along with Charles Prescott and Arthur Sugden (both ex-Moss Hutcheson), I shared command of both between 1978 and 1982, while on the AGREXCO charter, Ashdod/Marseilles in winter (avacado season).Chief Officers included Les Hesketh (ex-Moss Hutcheson), the late Doug Perry (ex-P&O), Peter Hillman (ex-BI) with Chief Engineers, Colin Knill,(ex-BI), Noel Pickering (ex-BI) and Don Belton (ex-Hain) among others. Calcutta BI GP crew until 1980 thereafter UK-engaged.

Tom,

As previous posts, I was on the maiden voyage of Zira (Vosges), and thence Vendee on and off for about 18 months in all. I too had the pleasure of sailing with Arthur Sugden, Chalres Prescott, yourself, Les Hesketh, Doug Perry, Colin Knill, Don (Gentlemen) Belton and Bob Scott. They were splendid ships on a splendid run and powered by a 6 cylinder J type Doxford - for good measure.

Salams.

Jim Moon
23rd March 2008, 16:20
Sailed on both vessels - Vosges in 1979 with Tom Kelso and Vendee in 1985 with Charlie Prescott and that wonderful Chief K.C. Smith....who thought the Chiefs job and Masters job had been combined, together with full power over the R/O......Charlie was a Gentleman, pith the same couldn't be said about the Chief who incidently had a black-eye after one of the motormen went for him. Happy days, although that trip on the Vendee was a real bummer.

Govanbill
13th October 2008, 19:03
Sailed on both vessels - Vosges in 1979 with Tom Kelso and Vendee in 1985 with Charlie Prescott and that wonderful Chief K.C. Smith....who thought the Chiefs job and Masters job had been combined, together with full power over the R/O......Charlie was a Gentleman, pith the same couldn't be said about the Chief who incidently had a black-eye after one of the motormen went for him. Happy days, although that trip on the Vendee was a real bummer.

I had the misfortune to spend 6 months with KC Smith on the Strathmeigle and had the pleasure of watching him "spit out his dummy" when we got fed up listening to his cr.p.

tom e kelso
7th March 2009, 13:25
Belated salaams to various former shipmates mentioned in previous messages of this thread

Tom Kelso

tom e kelso
7th March 2009, 13:33
Would any members be able to give me a lead to information regarding the ships which AGREXCO(or possible Offer?) commissioned to supercede the VOSGES and VENDEE? I remember seeing a plan of proposed replacements in a shipping magazine about ten years or so ago. Although half again as large, they were going to incorporate many of the unique cargo handling arrangements of their predecessors.

Has anyone any idea how this once highly organised trade involving the V's for the Ashdod/Marseilles leg is now faring? One seldom sees the the once obiquitous Carmel brand in our supermarkets nowadays.

Tom

peterscott
19th September 2009, 09:29
sailed on the Vendee on the Marseille/ Ashdod run ,remember every saturday morning Messina straits. Barry Jewson. Tudor the 1st engineer. also sailed on Strathmeigle august 80-september 81 ,8 wives onboard great time on the coast parties every port. Christmas in Singapore. 6 weeks in peirmont Sydney during the seamans strike, Colin and Kim the cadets, Jenny and Nick barrat. Tony and Sue Emberly -Ansell, .football in Fremantle against the russians. great memories.
Peter scott

tonymar
27th November 2009, 17:54
did the first trip on the vosges when british crew first replaced the indians on



the ashdod marseille run, remember kelso the skipper had his wife with him and the mate doug parry , sugden was also the skipper , good easy ships
plenty overtime
if i remember rightly about 12 of us replaced about 32 indians

i think the ships were replaced one of the replacements is carmel ecofresh

Govanbill
28th November 2009, 21:45
Would anybody have a picture of the Vouge and Vendee in there P&O colours.A friend of mine has them in other colours but not P&O.
many thanks.

I sailed on the Zaida when she was on charter to the Cruisaider line so she was all white with a yellow funnel then.

Doxfordman
3rd December 2009, 06:46
Not sure if this attached but hopefully this should be Zira, somewhere in Kiwi in her Crusaider guise. Ziada was the same. As previous they were great ship to sail on.

ian d.cameron
3rd December 2009, 07:31
Great photo Dox, I forgot what the aft end looked like

Doxfordman
3rd December 2009, 21:31
When the "V's" went to UK crew was the accommodation altered to cater for them?

Macphail
3rd December 2009, 21:53
During the Eighty’s I sailed with a Captain on the P&O BSD “Gazana”, Captain Mike Hill from Durham.
He sailed on the on the “Vendee” and the “Vosges”, always talking about them, because of there cargo handling equipment.
Anybody else, who also sailed with Captain Mike Hill.

John.

WillieG
4th December 2009, 08:28
Not sure if this attached but hopefully this should be Zira, somewhere in Kiwi in her Crusaider guise. Ziada was the same. As previous they were great ship to sail on.


Ahhh, nice view of 'Verandah Cafe' Dox!(Pint)

Cheers,
Willie

WillieG
4th December 2009, 08:32
During the Eighty’s I sailed with a Captain on the P&O BSD “Gazana”, Captain Mike Hill from Durham.
He sailed on the on the “Vendee” and the “Vosges”, always talking about them, because of there cargo handling equipment.
Anybody else, who also sailed with Captain Mike Hill.

John.

Hi Macphail,

Sailed with Mike Hill on the Vendee, and before that, on the Wild Curlew.
Oh, he was also on the Strathmuir for a few weeks as a super doing some kind of inventory, when I was on her.
Always got on well with him.

Cheers,
Willie

Doxfordman
5th December 2009, 00:14
Willie,

Happy days mate, probably one of the best trips I ever did was with you, waldo, sharpie and many more. Sundowners on the Verhanda Cafe!

tom e kelso
30th December 2009, 21:41
Have been unable to download Ian Cameron's lead to VOSGES/VENDEE pics in P&O livery. Quite surprised, and wonder whether they actually ever "sported" P&O GCD livery on original delivery passage from Crusader charter (and funnels) to Israel, AGREXCO (Carmel livery) charter when re-named. If this was the case, this must have been the very small window, when they were ever decked in P & O livery.

Can anyone plse elucidate?

Tom

Doxfordman
31st December 2009, 04:44
Tom,

I have various pics of both V's and when they were Z's but not in P & O livery. Attached is a pic of the Zira on her maiden voyage - she was in Crusader livery at that time. Ziada I believe was the last ship to be in BI livery when she went on tials. Zira was in Crusader livery on trials, thence to Liverpool before departure to NZ - very happy days.

James Slater
26th January 2010, 08:22
I sailed with KC Smith on three occasions and have nothing but the greatest respect for him. I am still in contact with him, and his brother John.
Best regards, James

CJM
12th June 2014, 01:17
Got plenty pics of Vendee post Bonifacio Straits if anyone wants copies.
(Will take a while to find negs and scan)

Leyther