Health Hazards on Blue Funnel Ships.

Eggo
26th July 2007, 14:21
In the 60's on Blue Funnel ships it was common for the lamptrimmer to place a bucket of diesel topped up with teepol (detergent) outside the focsle door for the crew to clean up with after painting all day. Mutton cloth wads were used to paint railings on some ships which entailed dipping a wad into a bucket of paint 'lead based' and running the wad along the rails. As the paint was lead based and the diesel used to clean up with is carcogenic , cant imagine it was to healthy. After the seamans strike in 66 ,the lookout was brought off the focsle head and banished to the monkey island . Cant imagine being bombarded by X rays from the radar being to healthy either? Factor 30 suntan lotion was unheard of then 'at least on ships' and the usual way to get a nice brown tan was to go red first then blister then let all the skin peel from your back after which it was sun exposure 24/7 with nobody mentioning skin cancer. The 'P' class ships carried a doctor to, who you might have thought would advise against such practices. Can anyone think of more ill advised activities. Les

K urgess
26th July 2007, 17:42
There would be more likelihood of microwave exposure from the radar while stood on the focsle, Eggo.
Radars don't produce x-rays. Radar wavelengths are centimetric (3cm or 10cm normally) not millimetric like x-rays.
If the radar scanner was mounted on the funnel or the signal mast on the monkey island the beam wouldn't reach the deck until somewhere near the break of the focsle. A microwave with a broken/damaged door seal is much more dangerous.

The rest I agree with. As one who used to wash his hands in petrol after tinkering with his motorbike/car and spend an awful lot of time in the sun trying to get my red haired, freckled body to go brown.

Cheers
Kris

Pat McCardle
26th July 2007, 18:20
You don't have to go that far back Eggo. In the 80's we were still washing brushes in diesel along with the sheaves off blocks & butterfly valves to clear hardened grease. Wadding rails is still the best way to get them covered but the use of 'Marigolds' prevents exposure to the paint & cleaning solutions. I believe testicular cancer has been detected as being the No1 risk for engineers who, frequently, had their hands in oils etc then when they had an 'Itch' down below, they obviously passed on some of the oils etc to their nether regions(EEK)

S Fraser
26th July 2007, 18:27
I agree with what has been mentioned aleady, but although I was on the deck side, when I was an apprentice we often did turns in the engine-room during shut-downs up to our armpits in asbestos. Also now proven not to be too good for your health!!
Stan

railroadbill
26th July 2007, 20:13
Not to mention those horrible cockroaches and mosquitoes that always found their way into your food. Then we had 'fresh water' tanks which could sometimes contain vast parcels (stashes) of West African cannabis resin, which when some became dislodged, tainted our drinking/cooking water.

[=P]

Geoff Garrett
27th July 2007, 02:45
I like that one Pat, your reasoning about engineers with testicular cancer. I suppose they would also be susceptible to cancer of the colon through scratchin' their behinds!

Eggo
27th July 2007, 06:30
Leptospirosis is another one I never heard about until recent years.

Pat McCardle
27th July 2007, 08:33
I like that one Pat, your reasoning about engineers with testicular cancer. I suppose they would also be susceptible to cancer of the colon through scratchin' their behinds!

I was told about the testiular cancer from a very stern faced nurse when I completed a 1st aid course in 1992(Thumb)

JoK
27th July 2007, 13:00
Thread should be titled health hazards on ships because it is certainly not confined to one company.

makko
27th July 2007, 17:09
I believe that the risk for testicular cancer was from "minty" oil impregnated and fairly ill fitting boiler suits. I would regularly toss all my boiler suits and especially the one used during "majors". Also skiddies and socks - on BBS service, I used to get those big packets of cotton socks and grinders which cost almost pennies (although I wondered about the dyes!) every time we arrived at HK.

I remember relieving another Eng who said," I´ve left you some good boiler suits there in the draw!" Well, with all the rush of crew change, getting ready for DS etc. I forget until next day about the BSs. In the cruel light of morning, the cabin was an absolute disgrace and the gifted boiler suits - At extended arms length and straight over the wall! Talk about health risks! For some reason, we had a carpet shampooer on board. I spent three days turning my cabin around!

Rgds.

Dave

tell
5th August 2007, 02:29
I have had, up to now 12 skin cancers removed from my face and body I can only think they were caused by excessive bronzying in my younger days in the tropics, as a matter of fact I have another one starting on my ear,they are not fatal as long as they are treated but I dont know how long a respite I will get when this one is removed I also engaged it the painting procedure for handrails etc as stated

Trader
5th August 2007, 23:50
I have had, up to now 12 skin cancers removed from my face and body I can only think they were caused by excessive bronzying in my younger days in the tropics, as a matter of fact I have another one starting on my ear,they are not fatal as long as they are treated but I dont know how long a respite I will get when this one is removed I also engaged it the painting procedure for handrails etc as stated

I can sympathise with you tell. My wife had a skin cancer on her cheek about 5 years ago and the surgeon called it a "rodent ulcer". It was taken out and it was the size of a strawberry with tentacles spreading through her cheek. She had about 20 stitches but now they are not noticeable. The surgeon put it down to "bronzeying" years ago. She doesn't even go out in the sun nowadays.

With regards to the original post, I did four years with Blue Funnel in the early 50's and remember painting rails with a wad and also straddling derricks and painting them with wads. The ordinary seamen also had the job of "coming down the stays" using Stockholm Tar, no Marigolds in those days. Our hands were stained for days after, no amount of paraffin would clean it off.

I remember going ashore in Japan and hiding my hands from the "girls" as I was so ashamed of the state of them. Happy days or were they? I think they were looking back.

Trader.

Eggo
6th August 2007, 14:41
I have had, up to now 12 skin cancers removed from my face and body I can only think they were caused by excessive bronzying in my younger days in the tropics, as a matter of fact I have another one starting on my ear,they are not fatal as long as they are treated but I dont know how long a respite I will get when this one is removed I also engaged it the painting procedure for handrails etc as statedWish I hadn't started this thread as I've got a few brown patches on my hands and one on my forehead. Les

Bill Davies
6th September 2007, 10:03
No doubt you will all remember the carriage of Octel drums on the Port after well deck. During the outward passage it was common to be given work in the vicinity not being aware of the hazardous nature of the cargo. First indication was when the Japanese insisted on wearing BA equipment in Kobe for its discharge. Today, small specialised ships carry this dangerous cargo worldwide.

Philthechill
6th September 2007, 10:37
No doubt you will all remember the carriage of Octel drums on the Port after well deck. During the outward passage it was common to be given work in the vicinity not being aware of the hazardous nature of the cargo. First indication was when the Japanese insisted on wearing BA equipment in Kobe for its discharge. Today, small specialised ships carry this dangerous cargo worldwide.
Bill! I was scrolling down the various entries, to this thread, thinking I'll add something about "Octel" and then I found your entry!!! Octel was, in actual fact, Tetra-ethyl-lead which was an "anti-knock" chemical additive to put in petrol. TET is one of the most poisonous of substances and was the "lead" in leaded fuel, now of course removed!! In Brock's we used to carry drums of it on deck to be discharged in Aden for the BP refinery there. Standing instructions were, "If a drum should start to leak it MUST be jettisoned overboard!!" Can't think the environmental lobby, of today, would go along with that sentiment somehow!!!! Salaams, Phil Roe(EEK)

Bill Davies
6th September 2007, 11:25
Bill! I was scrolling down the various entries, to this thread, thinking I'll add something about "Octel" and then I found your entry!!! Octel was, in actual fact, Tetra-ethyl-lead which was an "anti-knock" chemical additive to put in petrol. TET is one of the most poisonous of substances and was the "lead" in leaded fuel, now of course removed!! In Brock's we used to carry drums of it on deck to be discharged in Aden for the BP refinery there. Standing instructions were, "If a drum should start to leak it MUST be jettisoned overboard!!" Can't think the environmental lobby, of today, would go along with that sentiment somehow!!!! Salaams, Phil Roe(EEK)

I understand this product is now only transported in small specialised ships.
The freight must be good as I remember piloting a vessel in the Gulf in the early 80s which was around 12000 Dwt. It sailed Galveston with a full cargo making scheduled stops with parcels of 200/600 tonnes each port. Commencing Durban and all points East completing on the WCUSA.

DAR
6th September 2007, 12:10
I've been through the paint and wads, buckets of gas oil to wash hands and dry cleaning one's blues over an open tank lid of naptha. But what of tank cleaning when we used to go in a dig out the crude and sand mixtures without the benifits of breathing apparatus. I've seen a few seaman keel over only to be helped out of the tank and given a large tot of Four Bells as the antidote.
http://www.shipsnostalgia.com/gallery/data/501/thumbs/Ruined_Clothes.jpg

Duncan112
6th September 2007, 22:07
Bill! I was scrolling down the various entries, to this thread, thinking I'll add something about "Octel" and then I found your entry!!! Octel was, in actual fact, Tetra-ethyl-lead which was an "anti-knock" chemical additive to put in petrol. TET is one of the most poisonous of substances and was the "lead" in leaded fuel, now of course removed!! In Brock's we used to carry drums of it on deck to be discharged in Aden for the BP refinery there. Standing instructions were, "If a drum should start to leak it MUST be jettisoned overboard!!" Can't think the environmental lobby, of today, would go along with that sentiment somehow!!!! Salaams, Phil Roe(EEK)

The inventor of TEL, Thomas Midgely must have had something of a death wish for the environment as he also invented Chloro fluro carbons which are believed to damage the ozone layers and certainly lead to large fines if you are unfortunate enough to have a fridge leak in US waters and admit to it!!.

Midgely contracted polio, designed an apparatus to haul himself out of bead so he could retain a degree of independance, but unfortunately became entangled in it and strangled himself accidentally.

Duncan

Samsette
19th February 2013, 02:45
Ten or twelve drums of Anilene Oil, destined for Shanghai and lashed to the portside gunnel, abaft the accommodation, started to come adrift during a typhoon. The crowd were put to breaching the drums with fire axes, so to lighten them for jettisoning. This resulted in everybody getting splashed with the anilene oil and fast becoming laid up. We were able to communicate with City of Carlisle and obtain advice from her doctor, i.e. washing the bodies and administering a strong pick-me-up, which had already begun. The catering men took care of this while a lone AB and the peggy were the only deck crew left to stand watches. The firemen and greasers were put to work, under the chief officer, securing a lifeboat that was hanging from her davits and flogging hell out of the side of the ship. Dangerous work.
Unfortunately, a first-trip JOS, Joey Kinsey, died that night. Putting back to Holts wharf the next day, our crowd were taken to hospital by waiting ambulances, and the ship moved over to Taikoo Dockyard
for repairs, and repainting of the discoloured accommodations by the splashing oil. That was SS Eurypylus on her first voyage under that name.

NoR
19th February 2013, 10:10
I had a rodent ulcer (aka Basel cell carcinoma) on the side of my nose. When I went to get it removed, a ten minute job so I thought, I spent nearly two hours on the table because the guy had to take a few square cms from next to my ear to graft onto the gap left by the excised ulcer. I recall having this conversation with him about selecting skin that was 'non hairy'. "You don't want to shave your nose" he said.

ray morgan
25th March 2013, 22:09
I remember being on a Lamport Boat and dumping 40gal drums with some sort of waste in,in a set dumping ground in the Atlantic they were all lashed on the afterdeck not even a glove issue for handling them. We were outward bound.

sandhopper
19th April 2013, 18:25
[QUOTE=K urgess;142679]There would be more likelihood of microwave exposure from the radar while stood on the focsle, Eggo.
Radars don't produce x-rays. Radar wavelengths are centimetric (3cm or 10cm normally) not millimetric like x-rays.

I'm afraid I have to disagree about radars not producing x-rays. I worked on many naval radar systems and we used to get the bods from Haslar naval hospital conducting x-ray surveys on our radars. One particular radar had to have lead shielding fitted around the thyratron. They made the shielding too short and an x-ray beam used to pass out the radar door.
I was told that anything above 4kv could produce x-rays. Magnetrons, thyratrons, twts and klystrons seem to fall into that bracket.

tom roberts
19th April 2013, 20:41
[QUOTE=Philthechill;149632]Bill! I was scrolling down the various entries, to this thread, thinking I'll add something about "Octel" and then I found your entry!!! Octel was, in actual fact, Tetra-ethyl-lead which was an "anti-knock" chemical additive to put in petrol. TET is one of the most poisonous of substances and was the "lead" in leaded fuel, now of course removed!! In Brock's we used to carry drums of it on deck to be discharged in Aden for the BP refinery there. Standing instructions were, "If a drum should start to leak it MUST be jettisoned overboard!!" Can't think the environmental lobby, of today, would go along with that sentiment somehow!!!! Salaams, Phil Roe(EEK)[/QU
I have posted before re the Octel and the drums we loaded on deck cargo that we dumped at sea as I stated no protection for us unlike the men who loaded it.Worked there years later rigging for contractors Land and Marine,a sh*t hole of a place.Another post recalls blacking down the rigging with Stockholm tar as s.o.s on the Anglian that was my job a few days before docking in Liverpool,the bosun had a weird sense of humour.

jmcg
19th April 2013, 22:31
If I can recall correctly the TET was always loaded (in Birkenhead ) last and at night. The AH shore gang would have it wire lashed & covered on top with dunnage before the dawn .

Perhaps PK can confirm?

PS. I do not believe that hatch dust sweeping did any of us any good either.

BW

J(Gleam)(Gleam)

John Briggs
19th April 2013, 23:59
Spare a thought for the poor old second mate too.
He had to maintain the Sperry gyro in the gyro room - a hot steel box in the bowels somewhere.
I remember many times being nearly overpowered by the fumes from the Carbon Tetra chloride that was used to clean various bits.
I also had a few spills of mercury which was collected in the bare hands.

slick
20th April 2013, 07:43
All,
In the RFA we used AP 1005 gyros and these were loaded with mercury which inevitably got spilled. I seem to remember cleaning it up with 'Flowers of Sulphur'(?) prior to disposal.
H and S today would a field day!!

woodend
20th April 2013, 10:34
I think any Apprentice / Cadet / Midshipman of the 50's and early 60's was also at risk from various health hazards on all ships of the era. Lead, ammonia, solvents, oils etc. We did wear chipping goggles but sunglasses? My eyes were perfect until my mid 40's and then I have worn glasses ever since. Sun spot cancer :all deck workers of that era are probably affected to a greater or a lesser degree. I know I have had my fair share of 'removals'. All in all everyone I sailed with was pretty fit and the number of shipmates who were fat were few and far between.

jaigee
20th April 2013, 12:15
I remember being on a Lamport Boat and dumping 40gal drums with some sort of waste in,in a set dumping ground in the Atlantic they were all lashed on the afterdeck not even a glove issue for handling them. We were outward bound.

This was common practice on Lamport Boats, we invariably had a deck cargo of black drums to be dumped at the requisite place.

I still have no idea what was in them, nor did anyone else!(?HUH)

kypros
20th April 2013, 19:44
I sailed on a few shipping companys who did this as well as lamports,if my memory is correct half a day south out of LAS palmas always believed it was low level nuclear waste set in concrete the cadets were given this job for some reason.KYPROS

Pat Kennedy
20th April 2013, 21:43
On the Firth Fisher we sometimes loaded drums and cases marked with the War Dept arrows. These were stowed on deck and we topped a derrick and dumped them over the wall in the area known as Beaufort's Dyke in the North Irish Sea.

Tom(Tucker)Kirby
21st April 2013, 00:06
This was common practice on Lamport Boats, we invariably had a deck cargo of black drums to be dumped at the requisite place.

I still have no idea what was in them, nor did anyone else!(?HUH)

I also sailed with Lamports. The drums usually carried radioactive waste, they were not your common oil drums, they were steel re-inforced drums and meant to last for many years in Davy Jones locker. It was common among many other ships to dump this in mid ocean, but the drums frequently broke free during bad weather and washed over the side taking the ships rails with them long before its destination. Often the sailors had to guide one or two towards the gunnels with the ship hove -to. The Bay of Biscay is full of them.

Pat Kennedy
21st April 2013, 18:25
If I can recall correctly the TET was always loaded (in Birkenhead ) last and at night. The AH shore gang would have it wire lashed & covered on top with dunnage before the dawn .

Perhaps PK can confirm?

PS. I do not believe that hatch dust sweeping did any of us any good either.

BW

J(Gleam)(Gleam)

John,
When I was in the shore gang in Birkenhead, we did from time to time lash a deck cargo of TET. Always on the Port after deck as stated by BD earlier on this thread. The drums were heavy duty with thick ribs and I think they were grey and yellow, but cant be sure.
I loaded lots of the stuff when I was crane driving on the docks and it was very heavy, only four drums per sling.
I believe that Innospec in Ellesmere Port, Which used to be Associated Octel, is the only place in the world were TET is still manufactured.
As for sweeping the hatches out, I think we inhaled dust from every port East of Suez, copra, tea, sago flour, rice, bone meal, dried blood, dried insects, the list was endless. We feared the rats more than the dust though.
Regards,
Pat (Thumb)

jmcg
21st April 2013, 21:24
Thanks for the clarification Pat. As you know the Innospec complex (formerly Octel) is but a shadow of how it used to be. On or about May 1993 a lot of the ex Shell employees at Stanlow were approached by employment agencies for temporary assignments at the (then) Octel. Their own men were allegedly "leaded up". I know of two ex Shell chaps who went there- they bailed out after a week. They were tasked with the movement of old drums, removal of plant and ancilliaries and general tidy up before the Octel was disposed of.

It was a horrendous place from all accounts. They paid more than the Shell, but many of their workers never saw their pension.

BW

J(Gleam)(Gleam)

Pat Kennedy
21st April 2013, 23:03
Thanks for the clarification Pat. As you know the Innospec complex (formerly Octel) is but a shadow of how it used to be. On or about May 1993 a lot of the ex Shell employees at Stanlow were approached by employment agencies for temporary assignments at the (then) Octel. Their own men were allegedly "leaded up". I know of two ex Shell chaps who went there- they bailed out after a week. They were tasked with the movement of old drums, removal of plant and ancilliaries and general tidy up before the Octel was disposed of.

It was a horrendous place from all accounts. They paid more than the Shell, but many of their workers never saw their pension.

BW

J(Gleam)(Gleam)
I had a friend who was a lead burner there, and he used to get leaded up regularly. They would send him home on full pay for a few weeks where he had to drink gallons of milk to clear the lead from his system.
His gums had a blue line visible whenever he was leaded up.
It was a horrible plant, and an eerie place to walk through. I was alondside the canal berth there on the Theseus discharging lead pigs from Australia, for three days and we were allowed to go home every night so walked through the plant a few times,
Regards,
Pat(Thumb)

holland25
21st April 2013, 23:47
As a matter of interest a number of Octel directors, and the company itself, have been under investigation by the Serious Fraud Office for bribing Iraqi and Indonesian government officials.

Innospec Ltd charged over bribery and corruption
25 February 2010

Innospec Limited, a UK subsidiary of Innospec Inc, a US NASDAQ listed company, has appeared before District Judge Timothy Workman at City of Westminster Magistrates' Court in response to a summons from the court on an application from the Serious Fraud Office alleging conspiracy to corrupt, contrary to Section 1 of the Criminal Law Act 1977. This case concerns bribery on a significant scale by Innospec and its agents in Indonesia.

The charge relates to Innospec Limited, that between 14 February 2002 and 31 December 2006, conspired with certain of its directors, executives, employees and agents to give or agree to give corrupt payments [contrary to section 1 of the Prevention of Corruption Act 1906] to public officials and other agents of the Government of Indonesia as inducements to secure, or as rewards for having secured, contracts from the Government of Indonesia for the supply of Tetraethyl Lead ("TEL") to the said Government of Indonesia by Innospec Limited.

The case was transferred to Southwark Crown Court pursuant to section 51 Crime & Disorder Act 1998 where Innospec Ltd will appear next on 4 March 2010. Details of the alleged offences will be available at that time.

Innospec Limited of Oil Sites Road, Ellesmere Port, Cheshire manufactures an anti knock fuel additive called TEL.

Innospec Ltd: Former executive in court on fraud and corruption charges
25 October 2011

Dr David Turner appeared before Westminster Magistrates' Court today. He is charged with alleged offences of conspiring to make corrupt payments to public officials in Indonesia and Iraq to secure contracts for Innospec Ltd for the supply of its products. He is also charged with conspiring to defraud a competitor company by bribing Iraqi officials to provide unfavourable test results on its product. The case is transferred to Southwark Crown Court.

Dr Turner (56) of Newmarket, Suffolk, is a former Business Unit Director, Octane Additives, for Innospec Ltd. He is charged with:

Two allegations of conspiracy to corrupt in that he gave or agreed to give corrupt payments to public officials and other agents of the Governments of Indonesia (between 14 February 2002 and 31 December 2008) and Iraq (between I January 2003 and 31 January 2008) as inducements to secure, or as rewards for having secured, contracts from those Governments for the supply of its products including Tetraethyl Lead by Innospec and;

One allegation of conspiracy to defraud Ethyl Corporation (between 1 June 2006 and 31 May 2007) by making payments to public officials and other agents of the Government of Iraq as inducements to ensure that tests on MMT, a competitor product manufactured by Ethyl Corporation, conducted by or on behalf of the Government of Iraq concluded with an unfavourable assessment of that product.

The case has been sent to Southwark Crown Court where Dr Turner will appear on 2 November. He has been granted unconditional bail.

Innospec Ltd: Two more executives charged with corruption
27 October 2011

Former chief executives of the Innospec business, Dennis Kerrison and Paul Jennings appeared before Westminster Magistrates' Court today on charges surrounding alleged corrupt payments to gain public contracts in Indonesia. Mr Jennings is also charged in relation to Iraq. The case is transferred to Southwark Crown Court.

Dennis Graham John Kerrison (67) of Chertsey, Surrey, was CEO of Associated Octel Corporation (subsequently renamed Innospec Ltd). He is charged with an allegation of conspiracy to corrupt, in that he gave or agreed to give corrupt payments to public officials and other agents of the Government of Indonesia as inducements to secure, or as rewards for having secured, contracts from the Government of Indonesia for the supply of its products including Tetraethyl Lead by Innospec.

Paul Willis Jennings (54) of Neston, Cheshire, is a former CEO of Innospec. He is accused of two allegations of conspiracy to corrupt, in that he gave or agreed to give corrupt payments to public officials and other agents of the Governments of Indonesia and Iraq as inducements to secure, or as rewards for having secured, contracts from those Governments for the supply of its products including Tetraethyl Lead by Innospec.

Mr Jennings is additionally accused of one allegation of conspiracy to defraud Ethyl Corporation by making payments to public officials and other agents of the Government of Iraq as inducements to ensure that tests on MMT, a competitor product manufactured by Ethyl Corporation, conducted by or on behalf of the Government of Iraq concluded with an unfavourable assessment of that product.

The alleged offences took place variously between 2002 and 2008.

The case has been sent to the Crown Court at Southwark where both defendants will appear next on 6 January 2012.

Both defendants have been given conditional bail.

jmcg
22nd April 2013, 08:19
See below

http://www.sfo.gov.uk/press-room/latest-press-releases/press-releases-2012 then enter INNOSPEC in SEARCH at top of page.
BW

J(Gleam)(Gleam)

Leratty
22nd April 2013, 16:41
Has the site now allowed the ladies of questionable virtue, usually Filipino, well today between post 225-226 to advertise their wares? One assumes this is a revenue gatherer if they have? No prude just feel not appropriate.

kypros
22nd April 2013, 22:30
PAT just read of your fear of the rats,did you ever sail on any ships which were grain carriers,always recall down the plate washing out the lower holds then sealing the bilge plates with burlap and cement,they had to be spotless for the grain inspectors would have swore them lower holds were as clean as a new pin.Then came the fumigation you know the routine every vent and hatch battened down next morning ventilate then the deck crowd down every hatch to shovel up the piles of rats in the center of each hold.I often wondered why bother as soon as you started loading up the Plate watching the rats pouring in through the pipes with the bulk grain was a sight to behold.Always thought of the public back home having there daily bread and what they would say if they had seen this.Reguards Kypros

Pat Kennedy
24th April 2013, 10:35
PAT just read of your fear of the rats,did you ever sail on any ships which were grain carriers,always recall down the plate washing out the lower holds then sealing the bilge plates with burlap and cement,they had to be spotless for the grain inspectors would have swore them lower holds were as clean as a new pin.Then came the fumigation you know the routine every vent and hatch battened down next morning ventilate then the deck crowd down every hatch to shovel up the piles of rats in the center of each hold.I often wondered why bother as soon as you started loading up the Plate watching the rats pouring in through the pipes with the bulk grain was a sight to behold.Always thought of the public back home having there daily bread and what they would say if they had seen this.Reguards Kypros
Only once on a ship carrying grain Kypros.
That was Blue Funnel's Jason. I was coasting on her and we discharged grain from #2 lower hold at Meadowside Quay in Glasgow. I remember cleaning the hold after discharge was completed and we ended up with a mound of dust and dirt in the centre of the hold. Not one rat had been sighted up until then, but when we commenced shovelling the muck into a basket, half a dozen broke cover and scattered. They all escaped somehow and vanished.
They do say that you are never more than 3 yards from a rat
How much more on a ship?
Regards,
Pat(Pint)

jmcg
24th April 2013, 13:18
Pat

You do surprise me with the above post - a Bluie carrying grain.

You earn something on here every day.

BTW. Has that Turk Most Sky been released yet?

BW

J(Gleam)(Gleam)

Bill Greig
24th April 2013, 13:59
I did a trip on the "Post Champion" one of Panocean Anco's chemical tankers. One of the first things I noticed was in the wheelhouse there was no chrome left on any of the switches or handles on the equipment, all were corroded off, never saw this on any other ship large or small. Made you wonder what we were breathing up there!
Bill

Basil
24th April 2013, 14:54
Tug 'Garnock' in Irvine marine Museum could have been bad for the health in 1984 when she was dumping explosives over the stern in the Irish Sea.
Some detonated and the convex stern curve instantly became concave and she lost her prop.
AFAIK, no-one was seriously injured.

I'd been cleaning Bunker C fuel filters and developed a rash on my forearms. Purser said it was VD. He clearly conducted sexual intercourse in a novel and imaginative fashion! :p

Pat Kennedy
24th April 2013, 21:45
Pat

You do surprise me with the above post - a Bluie carrying grain.

You earn something on here every day.

BTW. Has that Turk Most Sky been released yet?

BW

J(Gleam)(Gleam)
I think it was a one off John. That was the time the Jason was rammed aft of midships by the Circassia which was outward bound. It was a Saturday night and all hands were returning from a good session in Betty's Bar, and some were on board and others still on the shore gangway when the ramming happened.
Those at the bottom of the gangway jumped back on to the quay and the gangway ended up hanging off the ship as Jason parted all her moorings except for the fore and aft insurance wires..
We had fun and games getting her back alongside. The next few weeks we were in Barclay Curle's drydock for major steelwork.

As for Most Sky, she is still here.
Regards,
Pat(Pint)