Carinthia

Steve
27th March 2004, 00:23
carinthia
courtesy of ageofsail.com

Paul
10th November 2004, 01:28
Does anyone have any other pictures of the Carinthia?

Fairfield
10th November 2004, 05:17
Hi Paul from another one and welcome to Ships Nostalgia.Hope you like going round the site and seeing everything.
Hope this of CARINTHIA is OK-from one of these Beken postcards you were able to buy at one time in any newsagent between Bournemouth and the Isle of Wight.
Remember her when she was new and saw her on the Clyde on the Canadian service.

Paul (Fairfield)

Bob S
10th November 2004, 13:51
FAIRWIND & FAIRLAND (Ex: SYLVANIA [57/20017] & CARINTHIA [56/21947]) laid up at Southampton after sale to Sitmar in 1968. CARMANIA & FRANCONIA laid up at Southampton in 1971.

FAIRWIND went on to become SITMAR FAIWIND, DAWN PRINCESS & finally ALBATROS.

FAIRLAND became FAIRSEA & FAIR PRINCESS.

CARMANIA [54/21637] was built as SAXONIA, renamed CARMANIA in 1963 she became LEONID SOBINOV in 1973.

FRANCONIA [55/21717] was built as IVERNIA, renamed FRANCONIA in 1963 she became FYODOR SHALYAPIN in 1973 with her name adjusted to FEDOR SHALYAPIN in 1992.

Paul
11th November 2004, 00:25
Thanks everyone, for the Carinthia pictures. I am originally from Liverpool, England, and came over as a youngster to live in Canada. I came across in 1966 on the Carintia, and have been fascinated by her ever since. I hear she was laid up in HongKong as the 'China Sea Discovery", a floating casino, but she is the only one of the four Saxonia sisters still in existence. I recently read that she is on her way to Iraq, as a floating hotel for aid workers during the present conflict. Can anyone confirm this? Thanks again for the pictures.



Paul

david fitzpatrick
24th October 2005, 21:57
Thanks everyone, for the Carinthia pictures. I am originally from Liverpool, England, and came over as a youngster to live in Canada. I came across in 1966 on the Carintia, and have been fascinated by her ever since. I hear she was laid up in HongKong as the 'China Sea Discovery", a floating casino, but she is the only one of the four Saxonia sisters still in existence. I recently read that she is on her way to Iraq, as a floating hotel for aid workers during the present conflict. Can anyone confirm this? Thanks again for the pictures.



Paul
Hi Paul Just joined the merry band and was reading your letter. Great to hear you enjoyed your trip on the Carinthia. I came ashore in May 1965 from that ship I was in the Engineering Dept though only a junior engineer and had sailed on other ships it was the best,great memories.If I remember rightly reading an article in one of the shipping mags, she went on fire in Hong Kong and has had to be scrapped,I live on Merseyside so still take a great interest in all things to do with shipping.Sorry its been 12 months for this info
Dave Fitzpatrick

ruud
24th October 2005, 23:46
Thanks everyone, for the Carinthia pictures. I am originally from Liverpool, England, and came over as a youngster to live in Canada. I came across in 1966 on the Carintia, and have been fascinated by her ever since. I hear she was laid up in HongKong as the 'China Sea Discovery", a floating casino, but she is the only one of the four Saxonia sisters still in existence. I recently read that she is on her way to Iraq, as a floating hotel for aid workers during the present conflict. Can anyone confirm this? Thanks again for the pictures.



PaulAhoy Paul,
Here the latest details about her:
http://www.ssmaritime.com/csdstory.htm

Peggy747
25th October 2005, 07:17
Hi Paul Just joined the merry band and was reading your letter. Great to hear you enjoyed your trip on the Carinthia. I came ashore in May 1965 from that ship I was in the Engineering Dept though only a junior engineer and had sailed on other ships it was the best,great memories.If I remember rightly reading an article in one of the shipping mags, she went on fire in Hong Kong and has had to be scrapped,I live on Merseyside so still take a great interest in all things to do with shipping.Sorry its been 12 months for this info
Dave Fitzpatrick
Hi Dave , I Joined the Carinthia a brand New ship in John Browns yard Glasgow on 10 June 1956 and I made 4 trips as a QM.
The 4 ships in this series were well built and I think far outlasted original expectations, sadly they were soon deposed by mass 707 jet travel, right ships at the wrong time.
Cheers Peter, Peggy747, (Thumb)

R58484956
25th October 2005, 11:49
Welcome aboard David from another ex cunard engineer, enjoy the site we do.

billmaca
19th January 2006, 13:30
Ihave an old postcard bought onboard the Carithia in th early 60's ill try andput it on the gallery as i'm new to this game and not at all sure of how to put the thumpnails in its (the photo) seems to have been taken from the hieghts a Quebec

R58484956
19th January 2006, 13:52
Queen Elizabeth "caught fire" in HK and burnt out, did not know another Cunarder had the same fate. Morale = do not travel to HK on a Cunarder

david fitzpatrick
1st February 2006, 21:40
Queen Elizabeth "caught fire" in HK and burnt out, did not know another Cunarder had the same fate. Morale = do not travel to HK on a Cunarder
undefinedunable to locate the article about the Carinthia going on fire in Hong Kong could have been a senior moment? the article I did find in a mag dated July 2001 the Carinthia was renamed The China Sea Discovery and used for overnight gambling cruises from H.K.no further info David Fitzpatrick

rainbow
1st March 2006, 19:43
Here yer go.
Three pics of Cunard stuff, 1964.

terence
5th June 2006, 23:48
did 1 trip on the carinthia 1960s if u look in crew members u will see the pig

Loftybaker
7th June 2006, 07:54
Carinthia became Fair Princess then was sold as a gambling ship to a Hong Kong mob, they ran her down badly, even leaving the crew onboard without pay so they couldn't go home and lived off what food was still onboard. Eventually she was taken and beached at Alang, only to catch fire and several of the wrecking crew were burnt to death with nothing much left of them to recognise or identify. Apparently they had an torch lit in the engine room, burning through some pipes when she errupted in flames.
She was left for some months for an enquiry but I believe she is gone now.. sad end to another great Pommy Icon. Lofty

terence
12th July 2006, 22:12
saxonia renam

ed carmania scapped 1999 ivernia renamed fraconia scrapped 2003 carinthia renamed fairland fairsea fairprincess chinasea discovey scrapped 2004 sylvania renamed fairwind dawnprincess albatros scrapped 2004

ALAN TYLER
30th December 2008, 14:18
Thanks everyone, for the Carinthia pictures. I am originally from Liverpool, England, and came over as a youngster to live in Canada. I came across in 1966 on the Carintia, and have been fascinated by her ever since. I hear she was laid up in HongKong as the 'China Sea Discovery", a floating casino, but she is the only one of the four Saxonia sisters still in existence. I recently read that she is on her way to Iraq, as a floating hotel for aid workers during the present conflict. Can anyone confirm this? Thanks again for the pictures.



Paul

Paul, Bit of a lapse in time here!! I was on the Carinthia from1965 to 1968 working in the bakehouse so there is a very good chance you,ve tasted some of my handy work, trust there isn,t any lasting effects. To the best of my knowledge she was finally broken/up in a place called Alang in November 2005.
Alan ex Cunarder

ALAN TYLER
19th January 2009, 14:34
I,m trying to find out if anyone knows or sailed with a confectioner who was on the Carinthia in 1966/8. He was affectionately called "Treacle tart Lill" alias Alan Hudson. It would be great to know he,s still about, possibly making treacle tarts!!!!

noreen sowden
21st April 2009, 07:54
Did any of you ex Carinthia engineers know Ron Bradley? we where good friends in those days and would love to know if he is still around , he lived in Liverpool also. the last time i saw him he was joining the queens ship in Southampton in1963 i left the Carinthia in 62.

Dave Edge
21st April 2009, 08:44
The second Cunard ship to be burnt out in Hong Kong was the Media. Sold in 1961 she was rebuilt as Flavia for the Australian immigrant trade and later adapted for cruising. In 1982 she was renamed Flavian and in 1986 Lavia. In January 1989, while being refitted at Hong Kong, she caught fire and as a result was sold to Kaohsiung breakers.

R58484956
21st April 2009, 13:02
Moral, keep away from Cunard ships in HK.

pensioner
16th June 2009, 22:27
Hi Noreen.
I sailed with Ron Bradley on the Carinthia in 66 and 67 he was J2 eng relieving 2nd eng, George Steel was the 2nd, Roy Forbes was Chief. The other 2nd's were Arthur McConchie and Larry Murray. My immediate boss, Chief Elect, was Ron Lowey, the 2nd's were Stan Thompson and Frank Kelly. Ron stayed until Carinthia was sold, I think he then went to Caronia for a while and then to QE2 - I may be wrong. What were you on Carinthia? I hope that I am forgiven for any wrong spellings. I was made redundant fron the MN in 1983 and have worked ashore until I retired last year.
regards. Stuart

david fitzpatrick
29th June 2009, 14:11
Hi Noreen.
I sailed with Ron Bradley on the Carinthia in 66 and 67 he was J2 eng relieving 2nd eng, George Steel was the 2nd, Roy Forbes was Chief. The other 2nd's were Arthur McConchie and Larry Murray. My immediate boss, Chief Elect, was Ron Lowey, the 2nd's were Stan Thompson and Frank Kelly. Ron stayed until Carinthia was sold, I think he then went to Caronia for a while and then to QE2 - I may be wrong. What were you on Carinthia? I hope that I am forgiven for any wrong spellings. I was made redundant fron the MN in 1983 and have worked ashore until I retired last year.
regards. Stuart(Thumb) Thanks for the memories reading those names brought back, a few other names I recall Peter West John Lamb. George Giles. George Walker. Brian Lockran. Ken Chisholm.I hope they get to read this and let us know how they are. I am well retired now and in good health enjoying life with lots of travel etc. Dave Fitzpatrick

pensioner
29th June 2009, 15:22
Hi Dave.(Thumb) How about "Spike" Temple, Vinny Dipple, Gerry "The Black" Francis, Tony Lee, Ronny Garnell and Willy Grey. I sailed with Peter West and George "The Gillyman" Gillies also Bob Mac and Snowy the Leckie greazers. When were you on Carinthia and as what as when I saw your name, in other postings, it rang a bell. I also resemble my Log-in name.

regards

Stuart

david fitzpatrick
1st July 2009, 14:24
Hi Stuart
I was on Carinthia 1964-65 I was in Engineering as Junior Eng, apart from the previous names mentioned I also sailed with the " Black " Ronny Garnell, Willy Grey, and of course George Gillies, the names are coming back slowly, thanks once again for this further info.Fitzy

dfhowat
2nd March 2010, 01:34
I sailed in Oct of 1964 with my family and Grandparents. My Grandfather was 36 years in the ROyal Navy. He told me our trip was the worst seas he had experienced that trip. I was just a wee lad but recall terrible weather. I remember sitting on te Captains knee singing Michael row your boat ashore. My sister dragged me up. Ha
Dave Howat

R58484956
2nd March 2010, 15:52
Greetings Dave and a warm welcome to SN on your first posting. Bon voyage.

noreen sowden
15th September 2011, 18:21
it was great to hear from you Stuart Thank's for your message I went on to The Transvaal Castle after leaving Cunard, it was a great time having my sea going day's My Husband was a Captain on The Samantha m so sailed with him for a while even with our two little daghters also, he passed away five yrs ago now but i am now a member of our Merchant Navy Association and we have good meetings also every month and occasional trips out to other MNA Associations All good fun . By now xx(K)Hi Noreen.
I sailed with Ron Bradley on the Carinthia in 66 and 67 he was J2 eng relieving 2nd eng, George Steel was the 2nd, Roy Forbes was Chief. The other 2nd's were Arthur McConchie and Larry Murray. My immediate boss, Chief Elect, was Ron Lowey, the 2nd's were Stan Thompson and Frank Kelly. Ron stayed until Carinthia was sold, I think he then went to Caronia for a while and then to QE2 - I may be wrong. What were you on Carinthia? I hope that I am forgiven for any wrong spellings. I was made redundant fron the MN in 1983 and have worked ashore until I retired last year.
regards. Stuart

pensioner
24th September 2011, 22:11
Hi Noreen.
Sorry I haven't replied earlier but do not look at Cunard section too often. Like you and your husband I moved around various companies, until being made redundant in 1983, when I became a "Landlubber". Since retiremnet I also have become a member of the Felixstowe MN Association we attend this years disastrous, thanks to Skyride and the London Mayor's office, memorial day at Tower Hill.
Regards
Stuart