Grimsby trawler Emerald - Help Request

[GY177]

I wonder if anybody out there can help. I am trying to find out information on the Grimsby trawler Emerald. My wife’s Grandfather was part of the crew who were presumed lost at sea, but nobody in the family knows anymore. I do not know the exact date of its loss, but it was sometime after 1942, and I think it disappeared in mysterious circumstances, as it was supposed to be in port. Any information, tips on research, photographs etc would be much appreciated.

Thanks in advance,

Dean.

[treeve]

Hello and welcome aboard; hope you got your wellies and
sou'wester, as there may be a bit o' swell.
Which Emerald is it, to make it easier on us? GY214; GY613; GY1019?
Best Wishes, Raymond

[treeve]

It can't be the GY 1019 as she became Respondo
Lost in 1940.
http://www.llangibby.eclipse.co.uk/milfordtrawlers/accidents%20&%20incidents/emerald.htm

Emerald II GY 613 was returned to owners 1919 and saw no more service.

There are Ship's Logs for Emerald in the NA (Kew) for years 1939-1944 under ADM.

[Roger Griffiths]

Hello,
The EMERALD refered to by Raymond who's logs are in the National Archives at Kew in ADM 53 is the light cruiser HMS EMERALD
I think the vessel you are looking for is EMERALD GY613 official number 104172 Her logbooks for the second world war years are here
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/searchresults.asp?SearchInit=0&txtsearchterm=104172&txtfirstdate=&txtlastdate=&txtrestriction=&hdnsorttype=Reference&image1.x=35&image1.y=12
As far as I know she was not a war loss she was however attacked by aircraft 17/3/1940. She was erased from the GY register in 1944. I have no idea as to the circumstances, maybe others may enligten us.

regards
Roger

[gil mayes]

Dean, Raymond & Roger
As you know Grimsby is not my 'part of ship' but EMERALD (104172) (GY613) is shown in Cox as "1944 Lost" and in 1945-46 LR as "Missing since 1.44".
Gil.

[Steve Farrow]

Hi Dean,
On March 19th, 1940, the Emerald GY 613 was attacked and damaged by aircraft 80 miles from Spurn Point, and she survived. Four years later she was not so lucky. She sailed on 17th January 1944, for a ten day fishing trip but was never seen again.
The crew were Skipper George Henry Westwood, the mate George William Bryan, Chief engineer Walter Carlton, second engineer Harry Burrett, third hand Charles Albert Edward Howling, deckhands Henry Arthur Pratt, Clive Philip Hildred Marshall, Walter Riches, trimmer Alexander Henry Charlton, George Alexander Baker, cook Thomas Edward Harper.
The Emerald was built by Cochranes & Cooper of Beverley and registered in 1894. Her owners were T. C. Moss but at the time of her loss she was owned by The Great Grimsby & East Coast Steam Fishing Company. She was 150 gross tons, 63 nett tons, 101' in length x 20.5' x 11'.Official number 104172.
Some years ago I was asked to paint the Remindo with the Emerald for a Mr. C. Riches. I will post it in the Fishing Gallery.
Regards
Steve

[mattarosa]

Hi Dean,
On March 19th, 1940, the Emerald GY 613 was attacked and damaged by aircraft 80 miles from Spurn Point, and she survived. Four years later she was not so lucky. She sailed on 17th January 1944, for a ten day fishing trip but was never seen again.
The crew were Skipper George Henry Westwood, the mate George William Bryan, Chief engineer Walter Carlton, second engineer Harry Burrett, third hand Charles Albert Edward Howling, deckhands Henry Arthur Pratt, Clive Philip Hildred Marshall, Walter Riches, trimmer Alexander Henry Charlton, George Alexander Baker, cook Thomas Edward Harper.
The Emerald was built by Cochranes & Cooper of Beverley and registered in 1894. Her owners were T. C. Moss but at the time of her loss she was owned by The Great Grimsby & East Coast Steam Fishing Company. She was 150 gross tons, 63 nett tons, 101' in length x 20.5' x 11'.Official number 104172.
Some years ago I was asked to paint the Remindo with the Emerald for a Mr. C. Riches. I will post it in the Fishing Gallery.
Regards
Steve


I love this site. You are all so knowledgeable, and so helpful.

And special thanks to Dean, whose question has given us the chance to see yet another of Steve's excellent paintings!

Hilary

[GY177]

Many thanks for all of your replies. I didn’t know there were three trawlers called Emerald, but after reading your replies, it was GY613.

Steve – A special thanks for your reply, it sent a shiver down my spine reading that – my wife’s Grandfather was the cook, Thomas Edward Harper. If I were to find out more information about the disappearance, where would I look? Are there any official reports? I guess, now I’ve got the date, the Grimsby Library would be a good place to start – looking at micro fiches of old copies of the Grimsby Evening Telegraph.

Love the painting Steve, that’s some talent you have there. I have sent you a PM.

Thanks again all, what a great site…

Dean.

[Ernst Jensen]

hi every body.
i use to be in the seinenetters but i enjoy watching all ships photos
ernst