Something about the battle of Jutland

MCM Matze
25th February 2008, 01:03
I*ve a question about the battle of Jutland. There was a RN ship which missed the signal for leaving and so missed the battle of Jutland, too. Can you give advise by naming this ship? What became of this unit? I`ve already made a search on Wiki but got no real results.

Thanks in advance.


25th February 2008, 11:11

I can't find anything specific to your question, but you might find this site interesting -

MCM Matze
25th February 2008, 14:01
Many thanks. I*ve wrote to Darren Milford who owns that site. Hope he has more info about it.
BTW the site is very interesting. I*ve just read the report of the gunner of HMS Lion.


25th February 2008, 15:23
Try looking in NAVAL OPERATIONS - History of the Great War, Volume 3, which has been re-published by the Naval & Military Press in conjunction with the Imperial War Museum. Unfortunately I had to return it to my local library last week, otherwise I would have looked up the subject for you. There is a fascinating chapter on Jutland; mind you, there have been several books written just on the subject of that battle alone.

Steve Woodward
25th February 2008, 15:55
Matze - I have a vague memory of this but cannot recall which ship - but will see If I can find it

MCM Matze
25th February 2008, 17:10
Sorry but the book Vectisol mentioned isn*t available to me. I guess the library of the GE Naval Academy in Flensburg-Muerwik has a copy but at the moment I*m on Ruegen Island. Maybe Steve has better luck.

Thanks so far.


25th February 2008, 18:56
The name HMS 'Europa' comes to mind but it may be something entirely different to do with the Dardanells. I think she was termed a 'Monitor' but there was something special about her. Just a stab in the dark.

25th February 2008, 19:07
Wasnt it CAMPANIA the Seaplane carrier who missed the order to sail and hence missed the battle.

The Campania was at Scapa Flow, stationed 5 miles from the main fleet anchorage, having been at sea earlier that day. She received the the general signals to the fleet regarding leaving harbour, but somehow didn't receive the signal to leave harbour, or see the rest of the fleet leave. The absence of the fleet was finally noticed at 23.45 and her captain decided to try to catch up. When Jellicoe was informed he ordered Campania to return, fearing she would fall prey to a submarine as she was unescorted.


John Cassels
25th February 2008, 19:16
Chris must be correct. Campania missed the order to sail. She only noticed
that the fleet had sailed at 2345. When she finally did sail , she was ordered
back by Jellicoe who feared that an unescorted carrier would be in danger
from the u-boats known to be operating in the area.

Steve Woodward
25th February 2008, 20:13
Spot on Chris,
I have been trying to remember which shipit was since Metze mentioned it, Campania had only just returned from a refit period at Birkenhead and failed to raise steam in time due not receiving the signal,
She was kinda used to near misses, in November 1927 she was in the tender care of T.W. Wards ( Scrapyard) who had to date only removed her deck fittings when the admiralty bought her and converted her to a sea-plane carrier.
her next scrape was definitely not so lucky, at anchor in the Firth of Forth she dragged anchor in a gale ending up across the bows of the battleship HMS Revenge, she sank on the 05th November 1918 - fireworks night for some I bet.

25th February 2008, 20:32
Thanks Steve (Thumb)


25th February 2008, 21:03
campania was one of two ships built for cunard to regain the blue riband the other was Lucania they were built by faiRfeild govan.
after 20 years and around 250 round trips they wer sold for scrap so the admiralty bought one of them for a knock down price having two huge 3 crank triple engines delivering 30,000 hp and burning 480 tons of coal a day she was considered ideal for sea plane carrying later in 1916 a 200ft ramp was fitted to her seven large sea planes and 3 to 4 small fighters suitable for engaging zepplins were accomodated the campania did miss the call for jutland and suffered an ignomanius end in august 1917 draging her anchors in a gale she fouled other ships and was holed and foundered very quickly due to poor sub devision of compartments she was armed at the time with sopwith pup fighters

MCM Matze
26th February 2008, 02:17
Wow ... you*re really good. That was a fast one. Never heard of an unit to miss/loose its fleet prior a major engagement. Pse don*t laugh ... I*ve posted the question because I*ve read about it in a Warhammer-Forum and wanted to know more.
You*re great. Thanks a lot.

Best regards

Steve Woodward
26th February 2008, 09:27
MartimeQuest have an excellent set of Photos of the ship both as a passenger ship and as a seaplane tender see :- HERE (

MCM Matze
26th February 2008, 17:12
Thanks for the link. It*s an excellent site. Bookmarked it already.(==D)

steve d
7th March 2008, 14:59
HMS Campania didnt sail for jutland due to not receiving the order until many hours later. (She was in a isolated part of Scapa Flow)

7th March 2008, 18:42
You'll find a survivor of Jutland here
An interesting Ship & still afloat.