British Skill

tanker
19th May 2005, 11:41
BRITISH SKILL, Delivered from Harland & Wolff 1952,was similars to others tankers delivered from British yard: BRITISH ADVENTURE-BULLDOG-CROWN TALENT and REALM.(old pic collect)

david freeman
29th April 2011, 09:01
BRITISH SKILL, Delivered from Harland & Wolff 1952,was similars to others tankers delivered from British yard: BRITISH ADVENTURE-BULLDOG-CROWN TALENT and REALM.(old pic collect) Interesting this one had one of the first IG plants in the fleet. It was obviously installed later than the King HAKKON, Malpassa and Matra incidents. It was BP's solution to what Mobil, Shell, Esso and other tanker companies where doing to combat explosions within a cargo space when Tank washing.

macrae
13th June 2011, 11:50
Hi David,
I sailed on the Skill as R/O in 1959 (bit of useless information I know)

The real reason for this msg is your comments about BP pensions which I read somewhere else on this site.

I was on Bp contract covering 8 years around 1960.
I have not contacted Bp with regards to receiving a pension but from your comments the qualifying time had to be 10 years.
Have you actually received information confirming this is the case?.

Seems a bit unjust considering the non contributory pension was used to recruit employees into the company.

mpkk
1st July 2011, 21:02
David,
When I joined BP in 1966 the 50,000T 'Guardsman' class had been in service since 1963, the 100,000T 'Admiral' since 1965. In 1968 the 24,000T clean oil 'Liberty' class were introduced. All of these ships were built with IG plants. I do not know which ship was the first in the fleet with an IG plant.
The Shell ships Marpessa and Mactra and the Kong Haakon V11 all exploded during December 1969.

Regards
Jon

david freeman
9th July 2011, 21:02
David,
When I joined BP in 1966 the 50,000T 'Guardsman' class had been in service since 1963, the 100,000T 'Admiral' since 1965. In 1968 the 24,000T clean oil 'Liberty' class were introduced. All of these ships were built with IG plants. I do not know which ship was the first in the fleet with an IG plant.
The Shell ships Marpessa and Mactra and the Kong Haakon V11 all exploded during December 1969.

Regards
Jon

memory plays strange tricks. thanks for the update

david freeman
9th July 2011, 21:08
Hi David,
I sailed on the Skill as R/O in 1959 (bit of useless information I know)

The real reason for this msg is your comments about BP pensions which I read somewhere else on this site.

I was on Bp contract covering 8 years around 1960.
I have not contacted Bp with regards to receiving a pension but from your comments the qualifying time had to be 10 years.
Have you actually received information confirming this is the case?.

Seems a bit unjust considering the non contributory pension was used to recruit employees into the company. I checked this out twice. Once 10 years before retiring on change in employment and again 1 year before retirement in 2002. Yess 10 years was quoted to me as the minimum service in the company pession scheme. The date you start the scheme is important. Although I was 21/2 years of age on completion of my apprenticeship : No credit appears to have been granted for being over 18 years of age until you came out and signed on the first ships articles as a junior engineer. Hard cheese as on may say?

davet
19th August 2011, 19:30
Not all the 50,000's had I.G. when new. The 'Bomardier' did not - I was on her aiden voyage - but was back fitted latter. The 'Lancer' had an I.G. system from new. I suspect that the 'Cavalier' and 'Hussar' were not fitted from new but I am not sure.

GeorgeM13
26th August 2011, 01:58
Re BP pension I am in receipt of a BP pension and only in the scheme from when I joined it at 21 and left 6 years later in 1977. Pays the gas bill.
Cheers George

stevie-w
26th August 2011, 08:48
Re BP pension I am in receipt of a BP pension and only in the scheme from when I joined it at 21 and left 6 years later in 1977. Pays the gas bill.
Cheers George

They must have changed the rules at some time- I joined in 1977 aged 18 and had 9 years pension contributions until the mass redundancy.

Paddy Power
2nd October 2011, 15:55
Interesting this one had one of the first IG plants in the fleet. It was obviously installed later than the King HAKKON, Malpassa and Matra incidents. It was BP's solution to what Mobil, Shell, Esso and other tanker companies where doing to combat explosions within a cargo space when Tank washing.

The British Skill had, I believe, have a retro fitted I.G. system. The first BP tanker to have an I.G. system from new was the British Prestige. This was very basic unit with all sampling and purging done by hand. This was done twice a day which was,nt a great job on a ship with 44 cargo tanks. The I.G. deck line had only a simple non-return valve fitted and on one voyage just after leaving Umm Said cargo gas got passed the valve and caused a small explosion and fire in the fan room situated on the funnel deck. Lots of panic.

Jon Vincent
2nd October 2011, 16:36
The very first working IG system fitted in BP was in "British Soverign" it had nothing to do with peventing explosions, the main purpose with to remove Oxygen from the tank atmosphere to prevent corrosion. Due credit to everyone, it was still working when we handed her over the Greeks in Genoa

twogrumpy
2nd October 2011, 18:16
The very first working IG system fitted in BP was in "British Soverign" it had nothing to do with peventing explosions, the main purpose with to remove Oxygen from the tank atmosphere to prevent corrosion. Due credit to everyone, it was still working when we handed her over the Greeks in Genoa

Goodness the Sovereign, what a wreck, and you mean some fool actually took it over from BP, the mind boggles.
(Cloud)

Jon Vincent
4th October 2011, 00:38
Twogrumy I would love to go into details but the moderator would say it was too long

bebob.wsm
21st November 2011, 21:00
Good to see my first ship which I joined in 1971 in dry-dock in Singapore. 40 years on and I am still at sea as C/E.

jmbrent
28th November 2011, 16:21
The british skill's inert gas system was installed by Swan Hunter Dry Docks at Wallsend in the late fifties. the funnel was enlarged to accomodate the scrubbing tower.

R58484956
28th November 2011, 18:28
Greetings bebob and welcome to SN. Bon voyage.

mpr41410
26th February 2012, 01:11
I joined the Skill as my first ship in 63, came back into falmouth for repairs and the mate inerted and ballasted simultaneously in one tank which resulted in the intertank b'heads being blown out. They sent me on the sovereign after that for a couple of months. The skill's IG scrubbing system was shot to pieces and staggers staincliffe and self (eng app) used to spend almost all our time thistlebonding the pipework.
After the Sov I went to the Kestrel and stayed with motorships for most of my time thereafter.

dave handley
31st October 2012, 00:24
Also joined at Singapore dry dock my first trip as 3rd mate

dave handley
15th November 2012, 19:23
Good to see my first ship which I joined in 1971 in dry-dock in Singapore. 40 years on and I am still at sea as C/E.

also joined in singapore dry dock as 3rd mate

matthew flinders
21st November 2012, 18:35
The 'Bombardier' did not - I was on her maiden voyage -

I was also on the maiden voyage as my last trip as an apprentice. Are you in touch with, or can you remeber, anyone else from this ship?

MTC
13th January 2013, 18:40
Not all the 50,000's had I.G. when new. The 'Bomardier' did not - I was on her aiden voyage - but was back fitted latter. The 'Lancer' had an I.G. system from new. I suspect that the 'Cavalier' and 'Hussar' were not fitted from new but I am not sure.
I finished my BP apprenticeship on the Hussar and she was not fitted with inert gas as I recall April to September 64

MTC
13th January 2013, 18:46
The british skill's inert gas system was installed by Swan Hunter Dry Docks at Wallsend in the late fifties. the funnel was enlarged to accomodate the scrubbing tower.
The work was actually done in early 1961 &t Swan Hunters. Captain G.A.B. (Gabby) King was the Marine Super in charge and he sailed on the first voyage Banias to Isle of Grain where there was a reception for the industry to demonstrate the IG system. I was a first trip navigating apprentice on that voyage and joined at Wallsend 27/3/61