Brocklebank staff still extant

japottinger
19th April 2008, 21:44
Noting all the names that have featured on the site through diverse postings I wonder if it would be a good idea to try and make a list of all these that have crossed our past as a record of a era long gone and never to be repeated and in homage to our revered Brocklebank company.
Whilst not completely inclusive it would hopefully make a record of many who in some way helped to sustain the company's image.
Given the current age and length of our greybeards now and stiffness of our joints it would probably be appropriate to use as a starting point around 1955-56 when we were all bright and bushy tailed.
Any ideas?
jim

ken carr
20th April 2008, 01:38
A very good idea indeed Jim, I would most certainly be in it having started with Brock's in 1955. Maybe we should organize a Format are we open for ideas ??
Regards, Ken Carr

Don A.Macleod
20th April 2008, 08:45
Sounds fine by me Jim though I was a late starter(1963).Donald

japottinger
20th April 2008, 16:47
Just a boy Donald!

A.G.Greenwood
20th April 2008, 17:45
Count me in. How about a simple information form, promoted on the SN site,to give brief details of those wishing to be included in the "register".
Tony Greenwood

skymaster
20th April 2008, 20:22
Sounds interesting started with Brock's 1955.

skymaster

Derek Roger
20th April 2008, 21:39
Count me in 1962 to 1976 . Derek

R798780
20th April 2008, 22:22
Add me in as well, please, 1964 to 1993 .......... never actually left Brocks, just the names changed.

John.H.Clark
20th April 2008, 23:19
I did not sail with Brocklebank, at sea with Shaw Savill and ashore with BI was my life. I am interested in the employment of ethnic minority seamen. Indians, Africans, Chinese and Caribbeans were employed on various trades and apart from a website on Lascars there appears to be litle in print, or on the web. I believe that Brocklebanks , like Ellermans , P & O and others had such seamen. I would be pleased to hear from you about anything on your company practice. BI has a reunion in the autumn when we hope to summerise that company's experience. Not just the names of their ranks but company practice over recruitment and employment. I am not sure how we can ensure that this essential element in maritine history is recorded but we should make some notes before our memories go

thank you for your attention

John Clark

Bob_F
20th April 2008, 23:59
Add me in as well, Jan.1957 to Nov.1961. Also with Denholms and Ellerman.

Cheers.

Bob Frizzell.

ken carr
21st April 2008, 04:45
Count me in. How about a simple information form, promoted on the SN site,to give brief details of those wishing to be included in the "register".
Tony Greenwood

An exceilent idea Tony, can you approach SN to design a simple ,"form" that we could use ??
Regards Ken Carr

oglebilluk
21st April 2008, 14:48
Sounds an interesting idea, I hope someone can provide an appropriate format. Only from 1955 to 1964

Bill

Tony Sprigings
21st April 2008, 15:23
What about 1944 as a start point that was the date I joined!

ken carr
22nd April 2008, 13:03
NAME Department Date Joined Date Finished
Kenneth Allan Carr Elec 20/08/1955 25//05/1964
Possible use this line for comments ??????????????????

In the space where our name & data appears insert a photo of a Brock ship,personally I would like to see the shot of the Maskeliya taken in the Clyde its a very good photo of a typical Brock steamer and would suite the space available,plus of course Jim's heading. The photo of the Maskeliya is in the gallery
Just simple and basic, your comment's please gentlemen//

Ken Carr

S Fraser
23rd April 2008, 20:27
Great Idea. Count me in, as we need to capture what we can whilst the Brocks membership on SN is a strong as it is.
Stan

Tony Selman
28th April 2008, 09:50
I must have missed this thread originally. Count me in as well. I am even more of a boy than Don Macleod, 1964 to 1970 with Brock's for me.

Peter Boggon
29th April 2008, 10:47
Good idea! Count me in also 1955 to 1965.

Peter Boggon

Masirah
4th May 2008, 20:11
Me too
A great Idea.

Michael M

japottinger
19th May 2008, 22:48
Ken Carr has come up with a nifty format to reg. dates ships etc.
Jim

uisdean mor
6th September 2008, 10:49
Jim
Just found this site and thread - was apprentice via Birkenhead in 69 then through various phases until I fell out with Head Office - Trafalgar House at that time.
Tokk Markhor to final hand over to Federal holdings ( Karachi) but handed over in Rotterdam.
Spent a little time on various other Cunard entities including the Salen fruit boats and the mighty Oily Boily under Nigerian ownership. Finally moved to Scottish Ship Mangement and after some bad news at home started in the North Sea on achor handlers. Finally as share fisherman(eng) for last few years working out of Mallaig until vessel (Silvery Sea) run down going in to Esbjerg. It was my trip off ( summer fishing for sand eels) and petticoat government insisted on a final move ashore.
Would be good to catch up if you could point me in the way of the form/format filling page.
Rgds
Uisdean Mor

bryanm
6th September 2008, 11:00
I would like to be inclued
1968 - 1992
Cheers

docgk
7th September 2008, 12:23
I too have just stumbled over this thread.... Would like to be included though I only had a short career at sea it was ALL with Brock's....
1969-1971

Philthechill
9th September 2008, 10:56
1961-75. However I was "posted" to ACL in 1970-75 but still, presumably, under Brock's. Salaams, Phil(Hippy)

S Fraser
9th September 2008, 15:29
Please count me in. Brocks 61-67.
Stan

tedc
9th September 2008, 19:52
HI!

I'm April 1957 to March 1960

Harry Nicholson
13th September 2008, 22:43
Hello chaps,
Here is my Brocks career:
SS Mahanada c8000 7.1.57 - 4.1.58 2nd
SS Maskeliya c8000 4.8.58- 28.8.58 "
SS Mahseer c8000 6.9.58- 12.9.58 "
SS Mawana 8744 15.9.58- 25.6.59 "
SS Matra c8000 17.7.59- 5.8.59 "
SS Mahronda 8537 12.8.59- 8.1.60 "
SS Malakand c8000 26.1.60- 26.2.60 sole
SS Malabar c8000 7.3.60- 4-4-60 "
SS Marwarri 8091 13.5.60- 11.5.61 1st

Derek Roger
14th September 2008, 00:00
Lots of Brocks lads on the site now . Hope you connect with some old mates .

Cheers Derek

Trevor
15th September 2008, 00:11
Please include me 1959 to 1966.

Danny Simpson
17th September 2008, 18:05
Hello chaps,
Here is my Brocks career:
SS Mahanada c8000 7.1.57 - 4.1.58 2nd
SS Maskeliya c8000 4.8.58- 28.8.58 "
SS Mahseer c8000 6.9.58- 12.9.58 "
SS Mawana 8744 15.9.58- 25.6.59 "
SS Matra c8000 17.7.59- 5.8.59 "
SS Mahronda 8537 12.8.59- 8.1.60 "
SS Malakand c8000 26.1.60- 26.2.60 sole
SS Malabar c8000 7.3.60- 4-4-60 "
SS Marwarri 8091 13.5.60- 11.5.61 1st

Hello Harry
I believe my Grandfather may have been on Matra in the late fifties as I have correspondence between him and my father (an organic chemist), dated December 1959, regarding a fibrous contamination of her fuel oil. His name was Harold Simpson and he would have been her Master.
Does this ring any bells?
Kind regards,
Danny Simpson

Harry Nicholson
17th September 2008, 23:09
Hello Harry
I believe my Grandfather may have been on Matra in the late fifties as I have correspondence between him and my father (an organic chemist), dated December 1959, regarding a fibrous contamination of her fuel oil. His name was Harold Simpson and he would have been her Master.
Does this ring any bells?
Kind regards,
Danny Simpson

Hello Danny,
Here is a scan of a page of my discharge book. You will see H Simpson's signature at top right by SS Matra.
best wishes
Harry

tonybutler
17th September 2008, 23:47
Count me in please, Sept 1951 (Makalla) to Oct 1953 (Malancha) via Matra, Martand and Malabar.
Cadet who failed eyesight test when taking second mates exam.
Tony Butler(Sad)

Danny Simpson
18th September 2008, 19:26
Hello Danny,
Here is a scan of a page of my discharge book. You will see H Simpson's signature at top right by SS Matra.
best wishes
Harry

Many thanks for this, Harry. I am grateful to have concrete evidence of my Grandfather's time on Matra. I have his discharge books, but, of course, they only go up to when he was appointed Master. I know some of his service after then, but not all.
I hope you are keeping well.
Kind regards,
Danny

Allan Holmes
12th October 2008, 20:23
Allan Holmes - Count me in please, Started end of 57 left may 65 transferred to Cunard.

Cheers

Trevor
16th October 2008, 00:40
I'm July 1959 to January 1966 with Brocks.

Brian Brown
5th November 2013, 11:28
Did anything come of this list of those sailing with Brock's and if so who are the custodians?
Cheers
Brian Brown

sidsal
5th November 2013, 14:50
You are mere youngsters - you lot.
Me - 1943 to 1947 when I went foolishly into tankers !!
Old Maihar to satrt with then a succession of ships - as apprentice, 4th and then 3rd Mate.

Supergoods
5th November 2013, 14:56
I was an Apprentice 1958 to 1962, but left to transfer to NZS as I could see the Indian Trade disappearing even then.
Ian

Brian Brown
6th November 2013, 12:10
Did anything come of this list of those sailing with Brock's and if so who are the custodians?
Cheers
Brian Brown
I would also like to be included on this list...
Brian Brown 5th Eng
Maskeliya 22.12.58 - 30.11.59
Macharda 01.12.59 - 30.01.60
Maturata 23.02.60 - 21.03.60
Mahsud. 30.03.60 - 15.06.60
Malakand. 23.06.60 - 15.08.60

noel grayson
13th November 2013, 14:10
I have only just spotted this thread and would very much like to be included.
Nobby Grayson ( 1948 ----)

MITCH
20th November 2013, 11:39
Count me in brocks 61 to 65.Deck.Ships mahronda,maskeliya two trips,maipura,mahout,elizabeth holt two trips,maipura further two trips.

jpincock
25th November 2013, 02:27
Count me in. Only a short stint 1963 to 1964 but memorable

Derek Roger
27th November 2013, 23:45
Count me in. Only a short stint 1963 to 1964 but memorable

Wow ; So glad you saw the light . Regards derek

Trevor
1st December 2013, 17:41
I'm still around, Brocks 1959 to 1966: Marwarri, Macharda, Maskeliya, Manipur, Makrana, Mahronda, Matra, Mahseer, Maipura, Maturata, Mawana, Manaar, Mangala, Maidan and Magdapur.

Derek Roger
1st December 2013, 21:56
I'm still around, Brocks 1959 to 1966: Marwarri, Macharda, Maskeliya, Manipur, Makrana, Mahronda, Matra, Mahseer, Maipura, Maturata, Mawana, Manaar, Mangala, Maidan and Magdapur.

I bet Maipura was the best happy ship . Derek

Ron Stringer
1st December 2013, 22:22
(Read)I'm still around, Brocks 1959 to 1966: Marwarri, Macharda, Maskeliya, Manipur, Makrana, Mahronda, Matra, Mahseer, Maipura, Maturata, Mawana, Manaar, Mangala, Maidan and Magdapur.

You didn't hang around, Trevor!

I was at sea from 1960-66 and only sailed on 8 ships, two of which were relieving jobs of under 6 weeks. In only 12 months more you managed 15.

Derek Roger
2nd December 2013, 00:00
I had 18 different ships ; but most of the time on Mahsud ; about 12 times ; coastal and deep sea .

Happy Days Derek

Tony Selman
2nd December 2013, 17:35
Just in passing there will be 5 ex Brocklebank Line personnel at a Christmas nautical get together in London in a couple of weeks time. I am not for one second claiming this as some form of record but these days you don't often get 5 people from the same company at the same venue at one time. They are:- Roger Newton, Paul Georgeson, Ted Goodwin, Vaughan Griffith and myself. Interestingly four of us served on the same voyage in 1969 although only 3 of us at any one time if you see what I mean. It was Derek's long term ship Mahsud and Roger and I were there all the time, Ted was there at the start of the voyage and Paul at the end. Another SN regular Donald MacLeod was there on that trip as well. He relieved Ted in Yokohama and Paul took over from him by joining in Panama and getting a few days hand over before the rest of us left in New York.
She was a good ship on a good run.
Have just remembered that the Chairman of the Group that meets is an ex Brock's deck apprentice as well, Graham Finch. I am not sure if he went on to become 3/O and upwards. He went on to become a Master Mariner but I don't think that was with Brock's. That gets us up to six.

Derek Roger
2nd December 2013, 18:05
Just in passing there will be 5 ex Brocklebank Line personnel at a Christmas nautical get together in London in a couple of weeks time. I am not for one second claiming this as some form of record but these days you don't often get 5 people from the same company at the same venue at one time. They are:- Roger Newton, Paul Georgeson, Ted Goodwin, Vaughan Griffith and myself. Interestingly four of us served on the same voyage in 1969 although only 3 of us at any one time if you see what I mean. It was Derek's long term ship Mahsud and Roger and I were there all the time, Ted was there at the start of the voyage and Paul at the end. Another SN regular Donald MacLeod was there on that trip as well. He relieved Ted in Yokohama and Paul took over from him by joining in Panama and getting a few days hand over before the rest of us left in New York.
She was a good ship on a good run.
Have just remembered that the Chairman of the Group that meets is an ex Brock's deck apprentice as well, Graham Finch. I am not sure if he went on to become 3/O and upwards. He went on to become a Master Mariner but I don't think that was with Brock's. That gets us up to six.

Give my salaams to Paul Tony ; we sailed together on two trips on Mahout ; another fine vessel with great shipmates . Our paths crossed again a couple of times when he was Elect. Super .

Derek

Tony Selman
2nd December 2013, 18:21
Will do Derek. A great shipmate Paul and still very good company. He is part retired/part time consultant now and living in or near Cleethorpes.

Tony Ellerbeck
6th January 2014, 10:07
...and me please! '59 Mangla (Deck App) to "67 Lucellum (2M)

Tony Selman
6th January 2014, 22:48
Hello Tony
Delighted to hear from you. Remember you very well from a long voyage we did together on Luxor. We paid off together in Falmouth and can remember you staying on the train as I got off at Exeter and waving farewell. Does memory serve in that you came from the North East - Northallerton? Long time ago. Hope you are keeping well.

Tony Ellerbeck
6th January 2014, 23:11
Tony
I remember it very well indeed and your memory is excellent - I did indeed come from Northallerton!
You may also be able to help me out with the name of the Master? I know I sailed with 'Wacky' Jacky Walters but I'm not sure if it was in Luxor. That was my last deep sea trip in the Merchant Navy. I did a coastal voyage for another Brocklebank subsidiary before leaving to join the Fleet Air Arm as a pilot.
I left the RN in 1991 and took up an appointment as a Captain with British Midland flying Mr. Boeing's machines and I left them in 2009. I now live in Somerset with my wife, three children (all flown the nest and four grandchildren.
How about you?
Kind regards
Tony

raymon
7th January 2014, 00:32
I had 18 different ships ; but most of the time on Mahsud ; about 12 times ; coastal and deep sea .

Happy Days Derek

Hi Derek,

Were you on the Mahsud Xmas 1970 when she was in Newport News for repairs. I was second steward, Alan Woods Purser. Can't remember too many names Bob was 3/mate, Pete 4/mate, Nick cadet
Ray Money

Derek Roger
8th January 2014, 01:45
Tony
I remember it very well indeed and your memory is excellent - I did indeed come from Northallerton!
You may also be able to help me out with the name of the Master? I know I sailed with 'Wacky' Jacky Walters but I'm not sure if it was in Luxor. That was my last deep sea trip in the Merchant Navy. I did a coastal voyage for another Brocklebank subsidiary before leaving to join the Fleet Air Arm as a pilot.
I left the RN in 1991 and took up an appointment as a Captain with British Midland flying Mr. Boeing's machines and I left them in 2009. I now live in Somerset with my wife, three children (all flown the nest and four grandchildren.
How about you?
Kind regards
Tony

Welcome to the club Tony . Derek

Derek Roger
8th January 2014, 02:01
Hi Derek,

Were you on the Mahsud Xmas 1970 when she was in Newport News for repairs. I was second steward, Alan Woods Purser. Can't remember too many names Bob was 3/mate, Pete 4/mate, Nick cadet
Ray Money

Hi Ray ; Yes I was indeed on her at the time . Alan was a good feeder as were you . A very happy ship with a great crew . Peter Margeson was the old man . Allan Attack the Chief Eng ; I was 2nd Eng and Norman Hatton 3rd Eng ( he had his wife Doreen aboard for the trip ) Bob the second mate had little hair but that which he had he grew long as I recollect .
Trying to remember the rest of the lads ? Will come back to me now that you have switched me back on .
Ray Charlton joined the ship in USA as 4th Engineer I think ( his last trip before he emigrated to the States )
I paid off in Rotterdam after removing the damaged bull wheel from the main gearbox .
Happy Days Derek

By the way welcome to the club .

R798780
8th January 2014, 12:59
Hi Derek,

Can't remember too many names Bob was 3/mate, Pete 4/mate, Nick cadet
Ray Money

Bob 3/mate - Bob Garner (Welsh) would be 3rd mate around that time

raymon
9th January 2014, 21:56
Bob 3/mate - Bob Garner (Welsh) would be 3rd mate around that time

Hi Hugh,

Thanks for the update. Have been trying to remember Bob's last name.
We only had a get together once after paying off Mahsud in 1971.
Been a long time between drinks!

Regards
Ray Money

raymon
9th January 2014, 22:07
Hi Derek,

Thanks for the response. You brought back more memories with the names.
As you say happy days

Regards
Ray Money

Allan Holmes
22nd January 2014, 15:07
Allan Holmes - Count me in please. Joined end of 57, Manipur, dry-docked in Govan - Oh boy.....Happy days.

Brian Brown
25th February 2014, 07:02
Just in passing there will be 5 ex Brocklebank Line personnel at a Christmas nautical get together in London in a couple of weeks time. I am not for one second claiming this as some form of record but these days you don't often get 5 people from the same company at the same venue at one time. They are:- Roger Newton, Paul Georgeson, Ted Goodwin, Vaughan Griffith and myself. Interestingly four of us served on the same voyage in 1969 although only 3 of us at any one time if you see what I mean. It was Derek's long term ship Mahsud and Roger and I were there all the time, Ted was there at the start of the voyage and Paul at the end. Another SN regular Donald MacLeod was there on that trip as well. He relieved Ted in Yokohama and Paul took over from him by joining in Panama and getting a few days hand over before the rest of us left in New York.
She was a good ship on a good run.
Have just remembered that the Chairman of the Group that meets is an ex Brock's deck apprentice as well, Graham Finch. I am not sure if he went on to become 3/O and upwards. He went on to become a Master Mariner but I don't think that was with Brock's. That gets us up to six.

Hello Tony
Are you aware of any ship manifests, specifically SS Maskeliya for 1959
I was 5th Eng at the time and I have been contacted by a person who is looking for info that will help in establishing family links with the 'infamous' Sharkey of Seychelles fame.
The reason for my input is that I recall a young lady travelling on the Maskeliya from UK to Seychelles and I seem to recall she was related - a daughter I think - to Sharkey. Master of the Maskeliya at the time was Evans and Ch Eng was Ronnie Iliffe.
I hope you can help or direct with regards this query
Regards
Brian Brown

Tony Selman
25th February 2014, 08:27
Hello Brian
Do you mean Crew Lists rather than cargo manifests? I am not personally aware of any but I will enquire amongst the Brock's faithful and see if I can come up with anything. This site is very good at dragging things out of the woodwork and refreshing all our ageing brain cells. I will get back to you if I find anything.

Brian Brown
1st March 2014, 06:04
Hello Brian
Do you mean Crew Lists rather than cargo manifests? I am not personally aware of any but I will enquire amongst the Brock's faithful and see if I can come up with anything. This site is very good at dragging things out of the woodwork and refreshing all our ageing brain cells. I will get back to you if I find anything.

Thanks Tony

B.

Brian Brown
1st March 2014, 06:21
Are there any SNs who sailed on the SS Maskeliya in 1959? I was 5th Engineer...Ron Illife was Chief Eng and George Snaith 2nd Eng.

Brian

Bob_F
2nd March 2014, 04:28
Hi Brian, I sailed on the Maskeliya as 3rd Eng. from Aug.59 till Feb. 60. Didn't you leave her in Calcutta?
Bob Frizzell

Brian Brown
2nd March 2014, 11:33
Hi Brian, I sailed on the Maskeliya as 3rd Eng. from Aug.59 till Feb. 60. Didn't you leave her in Calcutta?
Bob Frizzell

Hello Bob

Thanks for replying, I certainly remember your name along with the two other engineers mentioned. I can't recall whether George Snaith was the 2nd Eng that trip?
What I am trying to determine: did the Maskeliya visit the Seychelles while you were there and if so do you recall a young lady passenger who left the ship in the Seychelles.
As time passes there is less and less chance of linking up with others who sailed during those 20 or so very special years.
Yes I did leave the Maskeliya in Calcutta to join the Macharda after their fiver was scalded.
I have enjoyed SN and actually met up with 2 Eng's I sailed with in 1960 when I revisited the UK last year.
Thanks again Bob
Regards
Brian

Bob_F
7th March 2014, 00:56
Hello Brian,

Yes George Snaith was 2nd that trip and he had his wife with him, as far as going to the Seychelles I don't remember if we did or not. After a couple of trips and getting my 2nds I also landed on the Macharda as 2nd with Johnny Bain not the best trip I had with Brocks but I survived for another couple of trips on other ships. Good to hear back from you.
Regards.
Bob.

Philthechill
7th March 2014, 17:38
------memories of "Geordie" Snaith was in Middlesbrough.

We'd had severalteen scoops and decided it would be a good idea to go ashore to the "Star and Garter".

We were sat at a table having a yarn with a couple of lasses when "Geordie" turned to me and said, "I'm going to be sick!".

However, gentleman that he was, he just pulled the lapel of his suit-jacket back and threw-up in the "void" he'd created!

After "re-arranging" his jacket he then just carried-on talking as though it was the commonest occurrence in the World, (perhaps it was where he was from!!!!).

I always remember, too, he wouldn't say "f*****g" to describe something, a bit more forcefully, he would say "pucking". Good bloke! Salaams, Phil(Hippy)