Donaldson Shipping Line

Bill Gibson
10th June 2008, 13:49
Thank you for the warm welcome. I sailed out of Glasgow in the sixties
on the north Atlantic run. We would go from Princess Dock to Greenock
(to pick up mail) then go over to Newfoundland, up the St. Lawrence to
Montreal. During the winter we would go to St. John and Halifax where it was bitterly cold. Once when waiting out in the Bay of Fundy I had to repair a deck winch, a tarpaulin was placed around the winch and a heater placed inside that area. During this time it was blowing wind, sleet, and snow at various times. Our ship was a former Victory ship converted to passenger cargo, not the best, however it was our ship as as everyone knows one gets very attached to a ship.

Perhaps there is someone out there who remembers the Donaldson Line?

Bill Gibson

non descript
10th June 2008, 13:56
Bill a warm welcome to you. Thank you for joining the community; I am sure there will be plenty who remember the Donaldson Line and can stir the memory; in the meantime do enjoy the site and all it has to offer, and we very much look forward to your postings in due course. Bon Voyage

James MacDonald
10th June 2008, 14:29
Hi Bill I too was on the Laurentia during winter 63/64 as JOS & on the Lismoria during winter 67/68 as EDH. Both trips to St Johns & Halifax .Bienvenido

John Rogers
10th June 2008, 14:46
Welcome to the site Bill. I sailed with Donaldson's on the Moveria and the Norwegian back in the 1950s,great crew from Glasgow and they were very good feeders. I remember well the cold winters runs to Canada.

John.

Bruce Carson
10th June 2008, 16:08
From Michigan, a warm welcome to Ships Nostalgia, Bill.
Good to have you onboard.
Make yourself at home and join in our friendly discussions.

Bruce

K urgess
10th June 2008, 17:03
Welcome aboard, Bill.
I see some Donaldson crew have replied already to make you feel at home.
Find your way around the ship and enjoy the trip.

benjidog
10th June 2008, 22:44
Welcome from Lancashire.

I hope you will enjoy the site.

Regards,

Brian

gdynia
11th June 2008, 01:32
Welcome onboard to SN and enjoy the voyage

billyboy
11th June 2008, 10:27
Welcome aboard from the Philippines Bill. Enjoy all this great site has to offer

R58484956
11th June 2008, 21:05
Greetings Bill and welcome to SN. Bon voyage.

Jimmy martin
15th February 2009, 07:58
Hello one and all,
I sailed on the Lismoria as QM during the 55_60s under Mcqueen (master) & Johnston 1st Officer.. I enjoyed my voyages aboard her . Also the memories of Montreal, Joe Beefs (the first snd last) Not so pleasant the cold lookout duty on the wing of the bridge

bert thompson
15th February 2009, 09:34
Welcome bill to this great site
Best wishes
Bert.

Eddie Wallace
15th February 2009, 19:08
Hi Bill
I sailed as QM on lismoria on jan1954, Barney Dillon was bosun ,that was before he became union rep.

Trevor Clements
21st March 2009, 23:29
I was R/O on Santona GCDU in 1961 and 1962. I seem to remember that John Limpitlaw was R/O on Lismoria. Donaldson Line were a great company to be associated with and even on the little Santona the food was very good. I tell people that I was the only Englishman on the ship but the Bosun Dick Cracknell was from Hull. My Captain was Andy Dougall, he was gruff but very kind. We had Mr Hall as Mate for the first year, then Harry Keenan for a while, and the late Peter Telford was 2nd Mate, he was followed by Gilbert Angus. Ian Cleaver was 3rd Mate for a while followed by Frank Nicol.
I am still in touch with some former Santona crew whom you might know.

Derek Roger
22nd March 2009, 00:04
Welcome from Canada Bill . I know what you mean about working on deck in the Bay of Fundy .
Regards Derek

mcgurggle
22nd March 2009, 15:02
Santona was sold to Maldives & became 'Maldive Trader'.
She featured on one of their Postage Stamps. Not many ships get this distinction.
I sailed on her when she belonged to 'Head Line' & loved every 'rock n roll' of her.(Thumb)
McG

Trevor Clements
23rd March 2009, 19:54
I'm glad you liked her too McG. Santona was beautifully built, and such a happy ship too. Young Mr Donaldson, or Mr Black came aboard in Montreal once a year and thence up as far as Sarnia with us. They would turf the cadets out of their cabin and put them in the hospital.

We used to do a six week round voyage Glasgow, Montreal, Toronto, Hamilton, Humberstone Windsor, Sarnia then back down the St Laurence, on occasions stopping at Rimouski or Newcastle NB, then across to the Bristol Channel. Where on one trip we rammed and sank a grain elevator in Avonmouth. Two winters I was on her she was either on charter to Cunard, or tramping in the Med. She only had 3 hatches in those days, and it was a kind of last throw of the dice for the Donaldsons to lengthen her and the Colina, but I was long gone by then.

One of my most cherished posessions is a letter of reference from Captain Dougall. She was very small for regular North Atlantic crossings, and Andy used to stand over my shoulder when I was taking the weather forecast every night. They were two of the happiest years of my life, and despite being English I was made so welcome by everyone aboard her.

Thanks for the info on the Maldives stamps. Eventually she ran aground on a shoal and was sold to Gdani beach for scrap.

Happy days in happy company. Trevor.

jimg0nxx
27th March 2009, 14:29
Hi Trevor, I remember you. I was 2nd R/O in the Lismoria with John Limpitlaw for four trips from 2nd March 62 till 12 July 62 and you were onboard on at least one occasion in Glasgow. After Lismoria I did 3 months in BI's Devonia, then joined Santona as first trip single R/O in December 62 for a winter trip down the Med. In November 1966 did a Lakes trip in Colina (she had been lengthened by that time). I think we were one of the last out of the Lakes that winter. As you say Santona and Colina were nice little ships but could be very uncomfortable in Heavy weather.

Jim

Trevor Clements
29th March 2009, 00:17
Jim
You must have joined Santona GCDU just after I left. You had cargo shifted on the way to Italy, I know because Dan Kerr the apprentice used to write to me. I wondered who took over from me, I hope I didn't leave a mess for you. What about Andy Dougall? I really liked him, and he wrote me a very nice reference.

John Limpitlaw was a character too. Do you remember a second purser on Lismoria, Len (?) who came on Santona to the Med the previous winter, he and I were great friends for a while but we lost touch. I am still exchanging Xmas cards with Danny Kerr and Gilbert Angus, and I was in contact with Peter Telford, but sadly he died last year. Andy Dougall died while Master of Letitia when she was in Denholms, I spoke to his wife back in 1998 when I was in Glasgow last.

We must stay in touch Jim, loads of stories! Thanks for answering,
Trevor.

jimg0nxx
30th March 2009, 11:42
Trevor,
Yes the cargo from Glasgow to La Spezia was scrap redundant tram lines, we had a very unpleasant time in the Med from Gib to Italy, short steep seas which the Santona did not handle well.

I remember Dan Kerr, we had a few eventful runs ashore, give him my regards.

Andy Dougall was a nice guy, if a bit gruff as you say. He used to entertain us with his mandolin. I did hear he had died at sea on the Letitia.

John Limpitlaw was certainly a character, I think he had first gone to sea with Noah on his Ark. After ten or more years on Lismoria he went to the Lairdsloch on the Glasgow - Derry run.

I vaguely remember Len on Lismoria, but very few others on either her or Santona.

Jim

Binnacle
2nd April 2009, 11:13
[QUOTE=Bill Gibson;222958]Thank you for the warm welcome. I sailed out of Glasgow in the sixties
Perhaps there is someone out there who remembers the Donaldson Line?

Sailed home DBS on Captain Cook ex Letitia 2 1953 Wellington/Glasgow.

Trevor Clements
2nd April 2009, 18:45
Binnacle'
A lovely old ship, Letitia (Empire Brent, Captain Cook) and fondly remembered by many Donalsonians I am sure. She went to the breakers in April 1960, after lay up in the Fal; I heard quite a few tales about her, but she had gone by the time I was at Donaldsons.

Their last new build 1962 was called Letitia, Captain Downey I seem to remember.

Trevor.

Trevor Clements
2nd April 2009, 18:57
Jim,
You were obviously also on Lismoria in May 1962 when Len Corbett fell off Lismoria's radar scanner in Glasgow. A very sad business, he was a really nice guy. We had a long running fault with the magslip cables on the Quo Vadis at the time which I, Len, and loads of other Marconi people had failed to find. In the end Andy thereatened Marconis that he would have the Quo Vadis taken off, and a Kelvin Hughes radar fitted if they didn't fix it. It took us three days to find the fault Cardiff and Avonmouth and then it was luck that the insulation of the damaged coax was hanging down in our faces in the forward mast house, after they had been running the fans.

I secretly wished that they had put a KH aboard, the Quo Vadis was a rubbish radar, and nothing but trouble.

Trevor.

jimg0nxx
4th April 2009, 16:09
Trevor,
Yes I was on Lismoria when Len Corbett had his fatal accident. Fortunately for me I was not on board at the time.
That Quo Vadis radar was a real pain. By the time I sailed in Colina in 1966 the Quo Vadis had been replaced by a Ramarc. I still had a problem with the scanner being on the foremast, the wavegiude filled with seawater in heavy weather on the Grand Banks, with the odd iceberg in the vicinity. The old man Bill Joyce, climbed up the foremast with me and we managed to clear the problem - a bit of a hairy time!

Jim

Trevor Clements
5th April 2009, 21:16
Not much fun up that foremast in any sort of sea. On my second trip on the Santona, the scanner stopped 3 days out of Glasgow, and I had to climb it on my own. I am amazed now that I did it, and so many times as the weather got worse. Good of Bill Joyce to go up there with you, not many Skippers would do that.

What was even more amazing to my naive reasoning was that the scanner was driven by a flimsy vee belt which had broken. We had no spare, and when the engine room came up with a belt which was in layers and adjustable I also didn't have a clue how I was going to fit it. However the Second Engineer climbed up there and did it for me, and I was very grateful. I think it was 'Willie' Green who was 2nd Eng at the time.

On that trip Canadian Marconi sent a guy aboard because the 2nd Mate wanted the range ring adjusted, and the guy's first words were "Lets change a few tubes". I learned how to do the range rings and taught him at the same time.

Moody the R/O on the Calgaria fetched two buckets of ice out of the Calgaria's scanner housing

Yes radar was fun!!

Trevor.

Ron Stringer
5th April 2009, 23:57
I was always told that the 'Quo Vadis' was a 'gap-filler' in the Marconi radar range - a low-cost, low-perfomance radar with limited facilities that met the needs of fishing vessels and the smaller, short-trade cargo ships. As they say, 'You gets what you pays for!'

By the way (apart from a brief interlude with the 'Consort' leisure/fishing vessel radar) the 'Quo Vadis' was Marconi's only 'cheapo' radar until they introduced the (wait for it...) Raymarc!

Don't know whether that says something about Donaldsons or not.[=P]

Trevor Clements
6th April 2009, 18:18
I'm not sure it does say anything about Donaldsons Ron. Generally speaking I'd say that they put the best of everything on their ships. The Santona was only just under 1,800grt when I was on her, and for example the radio equipment had everything you could wish for, and the food and accommodation were very good. She had Decca navigator too and both VHF and M/F R/T.

I had sailed with a Quo Vadis before and the MkIV as well, but I have to say the Quo Vadis on Santona gave a lot of trouble. After I left the sea I worked for a while at Astaron ( Set up by ex KH people originally in Aylesbury) and we were making the Raymarc under subcontract.

I was fascinated when slotted waveguide scanners came in. However I left and moved into Boiler and Burner control systems, that was even more interesting. That's the thing about engineering, "All the job interest you could wish for, but lousy pay".

Trevor.

Ron Stringer
6th April 2009, 21:27
Trevor,

I only sailed with the 'Quo Vadis' once and that was only for a 2-month trip from the UK around the Med and back. The radar gave not a moment of trouble during that time. However when working ashore for Marconi some years later, many is the time that I cursed the very name of Astaron-Bird and all who worked for them and contributed to the Raymarc series in general, and the Raymarc 8 in particular. Dreadful, dreadful products with the worst reliability of any product that I ever worked on or sailed with. It was soul-destroying to be called out in the middle of the night, or at weekends to attend a Raymarc 8 ''blowing fuses''. You knew you were on a loser and the only hope was that we had a replacement on hand and prayed that it would not fail as soon as fitted (as happened, very frequently).

Didn't matter what Marconi did after the Raymarc, they were dead in the water as far as remaining major manufacturers of marine radars. The major customers would never buy another radar from the company if they had previously suffered a Raymarc.

Trevor Clements
6th April 2009, 23:24
Yes that's them, and from memory I think they copied most of the Raymarc into their own radar. I didn't even know they were working on the Marconi radar until I arrived there. They were founded from a merger between Sydney S Bird a Poole Company who made car radio tuners, and the Aylesbury Astaron company who I seem to remember were ex Kelvin Hughes people.

My claim to fame was designing the head up marker PCB in the scanner of a radar they produced for German Navy trials. There were some good people there and one of them who was a senior engineer and subsequently set up his own company, I had the pleasure of meeting at an R/O's reunion a couple of years ago. One of the former Q/A managers lives about 200 yards form me now.

I dont know about their eventual demise because I was long gone, but the site was subsequently Widney Aish making marine control panels.

Incidentally Marconi's demo yacht the Ellettra used to be berthed in Poole in those days. I think I saw her in the Mediterannean last summer, but I could have been mistaken.

Trevor.

Donald McGhee
3rd July 2009, 03:34
I sailed on Colina from 1965 to 1967, Bill Joyce in command, Mr McLachlan mate and "Big Lobey' was the chief. My Dad served his time with Nisbets of Glasgow in the mid to late thirties and he sailed with Ian Downey, the captain of Laurentia, they were apprentices together on the BlairAtholl.
I also remember Capt. Porteous the Marine Super, who was a real gent and was absolutely gutted when Donaldson folded in 1967. They were great ships and I would have stayed at sea had they kept on going, as I enjoyed every minute of my time with them.
I didn't stay at sea for long after my time was over, having served a spell as an uncert 3rd mate at times on various bank Boats. Bank Line were also great, although we worked just as hard on the wee boats up the great lakes. I stood by Colina when she was lengthened at Barcaly Curles yard in Glasgow.
Great days now passed and we shall never see them again, more's the pity.
The sea is full of ugly "box boats', but that's progress I guess. Not for me.

Jay Wye
27th July 2009, 10:58
I joined the Letitia at Greenock in June 1964," for a voyage on the North Atlantic and return with our Captain George Clarke". Hope I got his name correct, and the late Cliff Shepherd as Chief Mate. Aptly named as he certainly kept us in check!
Was on there for almost two years, Big John was the Bosun.
Then spent a year on the Corinaldo with Capt Bob Allen from Broomhill in Glasgow. One character I remember there was wee Jimmy Wilde the engine room storekeeper, small in stature but scared of no one! That was in 1966, the year of the Seaman's strike when Donaldson pulled in as many apprentices as they could find to sail her from London to drydock in Glasgow. Bit embarrassing as my father was the Secretary in the Seamans Union in James Watt Street in Glasgow, next to the Shipping Federation. ( The buildings are long gone as is Dick's Bar and the location is now part of the financial district!)
When Donaldsons folded in 1967, I was taken on by Head Line and completed my "apprenticeship" as a Cadet on the Torr Head with Captain Eddie Davie, on the same voyage as the Letitia, up the Lakes as far as Chicago.
John Yule

Tom Inglis
27th July 2009, 12:12
I have just been reading the more recent messages re Donaldson Line and wanted to ask again if any of you guys remember George Stewart. George and I went to Glasgow Tech together in 1956 and sailed off as cadets in 1957 George joined Donaldsons and I went to Blue Funnel. We kept in touch and George was my best man in 1964, at that time 3rd mate I think on Letitia. We lost track, and I would love to catch up with him again. George came from Armadale and went to Bathgate Academy. I guess like me he will be knocking on the door of 70 now. I hope he is still with us and that I may be able to track him down with some help from all at SN
I enjoyed reading all the Donaldson snippets
Regards
Tom Inglis

bretwalda
12th August 2009, 21:39
Catching up with previous postings re Donaldson Shipping. I was R/O on the Santona for a Meddie voyage - Early January 1964 to end February 1964. Capt Andy Dougall was the Old Man and during that voyage we had cargo shift in the Bay of Biscay homeward bound from Italy. From memory the cargo included cherries in brine (mainly lashed on deck) and budgie seed, presumably for Millets! Also the Radar springs to mind and remember climbing the foremast to the scanner - was the transmitter not in the forward mast housing? Trying to remember other crew - the mate was a Mr Campbell who later became a Clyde Pilot and the cadet was Alastair Weir who sadly passed away a few years ago. Have to say though that the Santona was the first ship I had sailed on with silver service in the Saloon!! Previous Companies included SEGB, Souters and Hall Brothers with Ropners still to come!! (No offence to these other Companies)

Jay Wye
20th August 2009, 21:27
Bretwalda, the "Mr. Campbell" you mentioned, was Colin Campbell from Tiree. I am trying to remember if he ever piloted us on the Esso Tankers up to Esso Dunglass (Bowling). He was choice Pilot for one of the Companies I sailed on!
Another Tiree man in Donaldson's was Capt Neill McKinnon who was laterally, Marine Superintendent along with Captain Colin Porteus who I believe was on the Athenia as Junior Officer. These two gentlemen interviewed me in St Vincent Place in 1964. My memory does not serve me well!
JY

Donald McGhee
21st August 2009, 01:52
Jay Wye. We must have been apprentices with Donaldsons at the same time. I was on the Colina in Glasgow during the seamans strike in Princes dock, then completed my time with Bank Line. The apprentices I sailed with were Eddy Fanning (a right wee Glesca hard man) John Grey and Peter? Snell.
Old man was Bill Joyce and the mate Mr Mcloughlin, Chief was "big lobie". Marine super was Mr Porteous, who also interviewed me at St Vincent place. I still have my indentures.

John Rogers
21st August 2009, 03:02
I sailed on two Donaldsons ships,the Moveria with captain Macullan,and on the Norwegian with captain A.L. Hunter,fine men ,and the crew and food was the best.

John.

Jay Wye
30th August 2009, 17:53
Jay Wye. We must have been apprentices with Donaldsons at the same time. I was on the Colina in Glasgow during the seamans strike in Princes dock, then completed my time with Bank Line. The apprentices I sailed with were Eddy Fanning (a right wee Glesca hard man) John Grey and Peter? Snell.
Old man was Bill Joyce and the mate Mr Mcloughlin, Chief was "big lobie". Marine super was Mr Porteous, who also interviewed me at St Vincent place. I still have my indentures.

Donald, I joined the Letitia, June 1964, the Corinaldo in 1966 and finished my apprenticeship as a cadet on the Torr Head with Capt. Eddie Davie in 1967.
Got my second Mates in December 1967.
Apprentices I remember, John Livingstone, Craig Thomson, Roger Kempson.
My memory is going!

jackie1
19th October 2009, 17:26
Its nice to catch up with donaldsons again some of the I read seems to bring
back some memories I was on the Laurentia Santona and my favourite the
Colina which was some 5 trips the skipper was S.P.Ewing the 1st mate was
mr Mclaughlan I know he was from Edinburgh a real gentleman in fact all of
crew were good

Regards John Jackson {jackie}

Vindi Phil
24th October 2009, 14:21
Hi!, I was on the "Cortona" out of London's Royal Docks (KGV) or (Vic) as J.O.S. in April 1060. In dry dock she looked an abortion but in fact was one of the happiest ships I was on. The average age of the entire deck department from the Bosun down was 23. We were on the South American meat run and all had a great time. Happy days.
Vindi Phil.

Terry Worsley
26th November 2009, 15:15
Hello John Rogers - I was interested to read that you were in the Moveria - I did one trip in her in June 1948. It was unique in having a Vickers diesel engine which was, I believe, a prototype and leaked oil continuously. I also was in the Delilian Sept. 1950. I can say without hesitation that Donaldson's provided the best food of any other company I sailed with. Terry Worsley

Trevor Clements
18th March 2010, 23:19
Vindi Phil,
Did the Cortona do many runs from London? I have almost finished an oil painting of her turning off the dock entrance. I was a bit concerned about the accuracy of it because I had heard she spent most of her career running our of Avonmouth. If she did do KGV then my painting has at least some accuracy.

I was ashore when Donaldsons finished, and it made the BBC news, largely on account of the Athenia connection. On a more recent BBC TV programme 'The Men who built the Liners' there was a good shot of the old Letitia (as Captain Cook) coming down river on the Clyde past the shipyards. They totally failed to mention which ship it was, but she was very well known on the Clyde, and being the sister of Athenia, unmistakeable.

Trevor Clements
18th March 2010, 23:23
Jay Wye,
You are right about Captain Porteous, he was a real gentleman. He always remembered my name even though I was a Marconi man. That was typical of Donaldson Line, they were all very friendly.

John Rogers
19th March 2010, 00:03
Hi terry I just seen your post,yes she was a old gal with lots of leaks in the engine room,I just did one trip on her as a fireman,I did three trips on the Norwegian.

John.

Trevor Clements
14th December 2011, 22:35
Jim and Bretwalda,
Gilbert Angus has sent me a press release from the Burntisland Group about the launching of the Santona on 26th May 1959. If you look on the Aberdeen Library Web site they have the ship's original plans there. www.aberdeenships.com

Trevor Clements R/O Santona 1961 and 1962.

Trevor Clements
5th January 2012, 10:45
Try to watch 'The men who built the liners' BBC4 next Tuesday 10th Jan. In the opening you will see the Letitia (Captain Cook) in the Clyde, for about 1 or 2 seconds. You cant miss her, she dominates the frames and loooks great.

lawrie marriott
20th May 2012, 04:58
i was on the cortina 1956 to 1959 and remember ian cleaver wellVindi Phil,
Did the Cortona do many runs from London? I have almost finished an oil painting of her turning off the dock entrance. I was a bit concerned about the accuracy of it because I had heard she spent most of her career running our of Avonmouth. If she did do KGV then my painting has at least some accuracy.

I was ashore when Donaldsons finished, and it made the BBC news, largely on account of the Athenia connection. On a more recent BBC TV programme 'The Men who built the Liners' there was a good shot of the old Letitia (as Captain Cook) coming down river on the Clyde past the shipyards. They totally failed to mention which ship it was, but she was very well known on the Clyde, and being the sister of Athenia, unmistakeable.

islayhawk
23rd June 2012, 20:51
I remember my brother Arthur Hart who sailed on the Colina, Laurentia and Letitia? coming home with photos and stories of his travels with the Donaldson Line. He used to sail to Argentina and the St Lawrence and The Great Lakes. He would teach me all the knots and splices he knew as well as seamanship. why I never went to sea I'll never know

Peter Hart

Uricanejack
5th August 2012, 21:28
One of my earlies memories was going down to Greenock with my mum to met my dad coming home signing off the Laurentia must have been about 65 or 66. Im not realy sure. I saw old posters of Donalson line advertisment for passage to Canada at the Glasgow Maritime Museum. When I was there last year.

Iain Crosbie
14th September 2012, 13:39
My former next door neighbour was Captain Alex Hunter, sadly now deceased. He took the Laurentia to Spain to be broken up, and on arrival found out from a newspaper that Donaldson's had closed. He had another tale about a terrible trip to Canada on one of the smaller vessels (Colina?), after which I think they were lengthened. I seem to remember he was mainly on a run to South America from Avonmouth bringing back meat.

A.D.FROST
14th September 2012, 14:31
My former next door neighbour was Captain Alex Hunter, sadly now deceased. He took the Laurentia to Spain to be broken up, and on arrival found out from a newspaper that Donaldson's had closed. He had another tale about a terrible trip to Canada on one of the smaller vessels (Colina?), after which I think they were lengthened. I seem to remember he was mainly on a run to South America from Avonmouth bringing back meat.

South American run and good will taken over by Blue Star Line.

John Rogers
14th September 2012, 15:30
My former next door neighbour was Captain Alex Hunter, sadly now deceased. He took the Laurentia to Spain to be broken up, and on arrival found out from a newspaper that Donaldson's had closed. He had another tale about a terrible trip to Canada on one of the smaller vessels (Colina?), after which I think they were lengthened. I seem to remember he was mainly on a run to South America from Avonmouth bringing back meat.

I did three trips on the Norwegian in 1951 and the Captain was Alex Hunter, Avonmouth to Montreal,N.Atlantic run,very rough weather most of the times.

eidroeg
10th March 2013, 06:02
Hello All,
Just new to the forum here. I am trying to locate more info on Capt George Clarke of the Letitia. Any memories would be much appreciated. Will fill in details if needed by email.
Cheers!

Jay Wye
10th March 2013, 12:10
Hello All,
Just new to the forum here. I am trying to locate more info on Capt George Clarke of the Letitia. Any memories would be much appreciated. Will fill in details if needed by email.
Cheers!

Received your Email this morning. Will get back to you personally with any information I can find.
I can confirm I sailed with Captain Clarke on the Letitia for almost two years from the 24th June 1964 (First Tripper!!) to mid 1966.

Ian Beattie
15th April 2013, 17:29
I sailed on the Santona 66 to 67 (hope the grey cells remember) and did coasting while she was jumbo-ised in Elderslie dock. As a sparky it was an absolute doddle up the lakes as the mates did all the radio work via r/t. When I joined I'm sure it was capt Johnston ? first trip as skipper. North Atlantic in winter was another ball game though GCDU good wee ship.

jpearson
16th April 2013, 15:54
I sailed on the Sir Andrew Duncan as EDH,joined her in Glasgow 1967,anyone tell me where she ended up and is there a picture of her on here,Thanks Jake.

Ian Beattie
16th April 2013, 17:14
I remember one trip on the Santona when we had a stand-in purser (Bill)? McClure who was mainly on the S American run trying to save dough and the Old Mans tiger hoyed a couple of sides of beef over the wall which spoiled the effect somewhat of his returns. Happy ship even when you spend 24 hours going 26 miles SE insread of NW with polar engines govenors working overtime

A.D.FROST
16th April 2013, 17:34
I sailed on the Sir Andrew Duncan as EDH,joined her in Glasgow 1967,anyone tell me where she ended up and is there a picture of her on here,Thanks Jake.
try this http://www.shipsnostalgia.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/41004/title/mv-sir-andrew-duncan/cat/510

Salanda
3rd June 2013, 12:37
Just in case anyone remembers him, my Father in Law Alex Barr passed away at Lochgilphead on 19 May 2013. He started with MoWT in 1945 as a Mess Boy on Empire Chief and ended in 1967 as Purser Chief Steward on Colina. Most of his career was with Donaldson Line and other ships he worked on included;

Empire Brent, Empire Clyde, Captain Cook, Capetown Castle, Dominion Monarch, Orion, Cameronia, Letitia, Cargaria.

Was going through his papers and doing some research and stumbled across this website.

Pompeyfan
3rd June 2013, 13:03
On behalf of the 'SN Moderating Team', welcome aboard Salanda.

Hopefully, someone will remember your late Father in Law. So sorry to hear the sad news. My deepest sympathy.

Donald McGhee
4th June 2013, 01:12
Just in case anyone remembers him, my Father in Law Alex Barr passed away at Lochgilphead on 19 May 2013. He started with MoWT in 1945 as a Mess Boy on Empire Chief and ended in 1967 as Purser Chief Steward on Colina. Most of his career was with Donaldson Line and other ships he worked on included;

Empire Brent, Empire Clyde, Captain Cook, Capetown Castle, Dominion Monarch, Orion, Cameronia, Letitia, Cargaria.

Was going through his papers and doing some research and stumbled across this website.

I sailed with your Father in Law, Alex Barr, who was Chief Steward on the Colina. My deepest sympathy at your loss.
He was a pretty strict man and on his inspections with the mate and Old Man would be meticulous in his examination of every surface in our cabin. Even to the extent of running a razor blade along the splash back on the sink to see what "filth" he could discover!
Despite us apprentices being up in arms at the ensuing bollocking, he was a good Chief and the Colina was the best feeder I ever sailed on.

R.I.P Alex.

Knightswood Boy
16th December 2013, 17:19
Knightswood Boy.Donaldsons from 11/12/56 s.s."lakonia" 2nd Mate,Master.Colin Portiuos :Mate Norrie Dalzell:R/o John Cox (Manchester)Completed 11 Trips with Capt.Portious: them 6 Trips withRobert (Bob) Allen until17/2/59.Home trade trip on "Calgaria"Capt Clinton." Laurentia" 8/9/59 until 11/6/60 Capt.T.S.Graham.Capt Mckinnon was Superintendent.Emigrated to Canada (Montreal) and other parts.As everyone keeps on remarking the food was FIRST CLASS

Ian Beattie
16th December 2013, 22:23
Unfortunately I joined Donaldson's Santona pretty late on and just about worked for a year on her before they pulled the plug she was a super wee ship before they jumboised her to be about 2000 tons North Atlantic in winter could get a little hairy especially when she was only 1700 I remember travelling 26 nautical miles southeast when heading for Canada the other way. I also remember the cadets and what smashing obliging young men they were, I hope they managed to get theit tickets. If the outfit had not folded I would still be with them now as I know a lot of other guys feel who the same way - as they say SHAZBAT sh1t happens

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Knightswood Boy
18th December 2013, 16:19
Sailed on Ships of the Donaldson Line see threads from Knightswood Boy .Reference Frank Nicol go to web site Frank Nicol President Shipping Federation,Canada for Info .

Knightswood Boy
20th December 2013, 21:10
Lakonia later trips Cliff Shepherd was mate think he was from the east coast.2nd Engineer was Jimmy Bentley(spelling).Had some good train trips Avonmouth(Bristol) Crewe (sleeper) to Glasgow then a shave at Central Stn.with hot towels to help you over the Journey.There was always a bottle of Screech(powerful stuff) Them were the days couldn't do it now.

Knightswood Boy
22nd December 2013, 19:55
Further to the above :does anyone remember the "Clan Bar",Royal Resturant,it was favourite watering hole for Tech;Mates & Masters .the barmaids knew the rule of the road better than some of us also some of the exam questions.Happy times

Donald McGhee
23rd December 2013, 06:01
Knightswood Boy eh? We certainly end up in the far flung parts of the former Empire.
I was brought up for quite a few years in Knightswood by my Grandparents in Athelstane Road, before they built the flats. Used to be a wide open space then with wee clumps of trees everywhere and great to play in.
My folks were in Nigeria and I spent many a happy time in Knightswood, used to take the 15 bus, or the 11 or 6 to school (Partick Hill). Moved to Rothesay when they retired (Dad at age 40)
Then Donaldsons later in life, where I would most certainly have stayed had they not folded! Such a good company, more like a family than anything.

Knightswood Boy
23rd December 2013, 16:26
Dear Donald McGhee,Nice to hear from you.Lived in the lower section of Knightswood ,carscadden road-Kelso Street-Yoker.used the #6 and#11 bus and if memory is good #9 think that was along Dumbarton Road.Was out of Donaldsons in June 1960 then to Montreal.at present in Ontario,in the depth of winter in excess of 3 ft of snow & temp 12 F.almost like St.John,N.B or Halifax in the Winter.Cheers and seasons greetings

clydesiderman
22nd February 2014, 18:40
The website www.shipsoftheclyde.com shows Glasgow Dockmaster Logbook listing Donaldson's "Colina" as arriving in Glasgow on 9th August 1965 as coming from Montreal via Tighnabruaich. Tighnabruaich is a very small village near Rothesay, in the Kyles of Bute, in the Firth of Clyde, and is well away from the recognised shipping route into the Clyde. Anyone have an idea why Colina would be in such narrow waterway.