Junior RO time

[BobClay]

I was wondering what experiences some of you guys had when you did your junior RO time. Fresh from Leith Nautical with my 2nd Class PMG in my hand (which I had to hand back when I got the general, something I wish I'd never done), I signed up with Marconi. Although Liverpool was my depot, I was sent down to East Ham, then onto the Bendearg in dockland (all gone now).

First trip (as a sparky that is) was London/Panama/Pusan/Kaoshuing/HongKong/London (back via Cape of Good Hope, Suez was shut). Done in less than 3 months (Ben boats were nippy).

I always remember the year as 1970 because we were taking messages about the troubled Apollo 13 spacecraft and lists of frequencies we must not transmit on (fat chance of that with an Oceanspan Atalanta set up).

Now I understood you were supposed to do 6 months as a junior, but Marconi then put me on a Stephenson Clarke coastal collier (just over the limit to require an RO), and I was on my own because they said I could take her on with only 3 months experience. From their point of view, fine, I'm taking another ship off the book. From my point of view, not so good. There was no HF and while I enjoyed plodding up and down from the Thames to the NorthEast, I can't say I learnt much.

Next trip a year plusser on a Bank Boat, that was a baptism of fire with only a distant memory of my 3 months as a junior (a distant memory because on the coaster (a flattie, the 'Horsham') I spent a large amount of time in the pub.

I do remember the radar though, a Decca, with the transmitter up in the scanner. They had mentioned the model on the BOT Radar course at Leith, but then said we would never see one. I saw one. Close up. (POP)

[K urgess]

All in one go.
July 1966 to February 1967 Baron Wemyss. Hungry Hogarth's lovely introduction. Fanbtastic bloke as chief.
Didn't normally touch the radar unless it was on contract with RAMAC. I got overtime for fixing the non-contract Decca on my first trip.
Glad now that I got the Baron Wemyss rather than the one I was told I would join, Bendoran. Things might have turned out a bit different.

[sparkie2182]

i was what was known at the time as a "company sponsored" cadet.........
with Cunard Brocklebank.
all the college holidays were spent onboard a ship........deep sea or coastal.......right from the beginning..........signing on as supernumary.
this was far from satisfactory, as i didnt know enough about anything to be of assistance to anyone. not a good situation to be in for a youngster at sea.
nevertheless, what doesnt kill you strengthens you, and when i was actually fully qualified, i had stacks of "sea-time" if not "operating time".........and knew "the ropes" in so many areas of the company business other than the strict job of running a ships radio/electronics department.
when it came to sailing 2/R/O/........ i was well aquainted with things which i would otherwise be beginning to learn.......
on the other hand ......there was also intense pressure to PASS FIRST TIME.........failure was truly not an option.

all in all.......... i am pleased i went through the sponsored scheme..........i was never short of cash, and the Cunard tag carried some weight in the college in different ways..........all bulls**t........but it sometimes worked to my advantage.
even so.... often envied those who took the orthodox route and seemed at first to have more "freedom".
a case of "horses for courses" i suppose.

i would be interested to hear from other company sponsored cadet r/o's ........and hear their experiences and views


best regards............

[mike N]

Joined Marconi at East Ham after getting my 2nd Class PMG in Jan. 59. Signed on "Orcades" as 5th R/O in mid March 59 at Tilbury and sailed away on a round the world trip. the chief and 2nd R/O's didn't stand watches, that was left to we lesser mortals although the 2nd did hover around me and the
4th on our respective watches for a few days ,to make sure we were up to the job. One very brief moment of seasickness on first night at sea and then nio problem with that ever again. Remember wobbly legs on first trip ashore,( Naples I think)Takes a while to get your land legs back (nothing to do with the booze). Out to a Aussie via Suez with the , " £10 poms", then a couple of trans Pacific cruises before heading home via the Panama Canal and Maderia.
Not bad for a first trip and loved every minute of it . Dining 1st class every night, mixing with the lovely ladies , seeing the world and getting paid for it,
Why ever did I leave ?

[BA204259]

...mixing with the lovely ladies....

Lucky, lucky. Was on two Cunarders for a while and only heads of dept could visit the public areas. Sure, I ate like a king and had some lovely trips up the St. Lawrence, but the social life passenger-wise was non-existent. On one trip I was in the habit of chatting up a young lady emigrating to Canada with her family. This was noticed one evening by the Master-at-Arms and reported to the Chief Officer. I was duly b*******d by said Chief Officer and threatened with a logging for "tampering with the cargo". I had to wait a few more months before I had a trip on Anchor Line and was able to indulge in polite social intercourse with the fair sex.

I remember some years later as a first class passenger on the Canberra (married by then of course) being absolutely amazed at how even the juniors were encouraged to mix with the passengers.

[steve Coombs]

Joined Marconi in 1974, first trip spent 5 months at anchor in Lobito. Then later the Chief Engineer drowned in Beira, the atmosphere was terrible for a time but I loved every minute of my first trip

[Clive Kaine]

I signed up for P&O Bulk Shipping Division in 1973, aged 19, having done my MRGC at Wray Castle and my Radar ticket at Brook's Bar.

Joined the ss Maloja/GDHQ (20,000 ton product carrier) in Los Angeles in November '73. She was a nice old ship, built in 1959, with very comfortable air conditioned midships accommodation. Hugely entertaining going down aft for meals in rough weather! I was lucky enough to have a really great senior R/O, an ex-Marconi guy in his mid-20s called Dave English who was on his first trip with P&O. He showed me the ropes and kept me entertained with an endless fund of stories. Trip was Anchorage, Alaska, then Curacao via Panama. Spent a month or so island-hopping in the Caribbean (Curacao x 2, Venezuela, Jamaica, Puerto Rico) then back through the Canal to LA & Seattle. Across the Pacific to Singapore via Honolulu, and paid off in Kuwait after 4 months. Not a bad first trip at all.

Still had 2 months to do to complete my sea time, so joined LPG carrier MV Garmula/GPEA in Houston in June '74. Steamed to Ras Tanura via the Cape and anchored for a month waiting for cargo. My senior R/O left by launch whilst we were there, and I was on my own! I was ready for it, too, loved running my own station at last

[Glyndwr]

I will never forget my first experience. I joined Clan MacIver on 3rd January 1972 in London. I was as green as a gooseberry. The Senior R/O was Frank (Warren?) or something or other. He was 65 and had his wife with him. He was a good old chap but had forget how to send morse and did not have a clue about Radar etc. I was put into the radio room straight away and never saw the guy until meal times. He was also tee-total and frowned on anyone who drank alcohol. I had to sneak in and out of the bar after the last shift.
In East Africa he was always ashore. He got me to paint the radio room and change the copper aerials. He refused to let people call home. The crew could not believe it when I told them they could speak with their relatives.......over the airwaves.

All in all it was a positive experience but talk about being thrown in at the deep end.......

Glyn Lewis

[R651400]

I cannot remember the exact details now but Greek R/O's in the 50/60's did something of a split. Start at college then some sea time in as a crew member hopefully with hands on assistance from the R/O. I had one equivalent of a deckboy on "World Banner," and it was really hard going as he didn't seem to have much savvy on anything radio and his morse was appalling. I was relieved by a Greek who gave it a go for a while and eventually booted him out of the office. Wonder if he ever managed to get his ticket!

[K urgess]

Looks like I was a lucky one.
Way before Monty Python I'd learned to "always look on the bright side" so joining a Baron boat instead of a Ben boat didn't really phase me. I still think I got the best of the deal.
I was helped by a lifetime of messing about in boats and sailing back and forth across the North Sea. I'd also done a trip as one of the lowest of the low as a mess boy on a Danish ship during summer hols while taking my ticket. Not quite the lowest, that honour went to the crew's peggy, but still an intro to what it entailed keeping the officers in their accustomed luxury. [=P]

[IAINT]

Hi All,

It took me a year to get my six months in - 10th March 1964 till 19th March 1965.

1st - Esso Pembrokeshire - Milford Haven to Mid East then back to Finnart - paid off sick (stomach).

2nd - Laurentia did 4 trips - Glasgow to Montreal - on 4th trip - appendicitis going through the Belle Isle St - never had so much pain in my life - collapsed going up to the bridge for the OBS - thought the ships doctor would have to operate on the saloon table - did not look forward to that very much - was told that if it burst they only gave you 3 days to live - survived till we reached Montreal where it was whipped out - but as i was under 21 at the time had to wait till permission was given by my father - good job it did not burst.

3rd - Dunkyle -Birkenhead to Port Elizabeth to Birkenhead - iron ore - so at last managed my 6 months as junior.

Seagoing career nearly finished before getting started.

Iain T

[Robinj]

My first ship was the Egidia did 3 months on her Glasgow to India remember Chief R/O P.J. Kelly great bloke who liked a dram or two. Then sent to Singapore to join Shell's Frenulina all on my ownsome pretty much in the deep end, but enjoyed it greatly.(Pint)

[hawkey01]

Reading lots of the threads about first trips and getting jobs I must have been very fortunate. I did write to lots of direct employ companies for a job but everyone seemed to want RO's with the required sea time. Some years later I had the opposite with everyone wanting juniors.
I digress. (Scribe)
I joined MIMCO in 64 and I was attached to the East Ham depot. After the initial medical etc I was sent home to await a ship. The call came and I was told to go to Shell Centre where I would receive my travel instructions. Arrived at the designated time and I was introduced to other crew members who were joining the ship. One of which was the relieving Capt Alec Brown. There were also a couple of wives. We then headed by train down to Harwich to catch the overnight ferry to Rotterdam. The ship was due in the next day or so. I suppose being with the Captain we were all booked into a very smart hotel. The news then came that the ship had been delayed by weather and was not going to arrived for a couple of days. Great fun clubing in Rotterdam before even setting foot on a ship.
Eventually she arrived and we headed off to Europort in taxis. My first view of the ship took me back - not really knowing what to expect. She was a stunning twin stack all aft tanker called Opalia/GLQA. At that time only about 2 years old.
Duly signed on and was shown to my cabin which was absolutely immense - on the lower deck forward. A bit of a climb back up to the saloon and the radio room but it was A1. There was even a lift!.
Met my Nr1 who I am ashamed to say I cannot remember his name. He was from the Emerald Isle and a really nice guy. We also had the pleasure of one of the early Hermes and Argus radar setups aboard. They kept us busy! Anyhow we did trips in the Med down to Nigeria then the Gulf and then Gulf to NZ and back up to Singapore and Gulf and eventually home. By which time I had more than my seatime. A great ship.

Hawkey01 (==D)

[freddythefrog]

Unfortunately, joined Marconi's straight from Radio college 1967
in Liverpool, interview was "lets see your Ticket" yes ok, go and see doctor for medical and sign here!!
Was told to go to Newcastle to join a tanker going to P gulf and back to uk
4 month trip so i said yes ok. (Suez closed at that time). Even so i thought that is must be a very slow ship!!
Anyway joined the Border Boat in Smiths dock, Newcastle and sailed for gulf,
very good 1st R/O on board, taught me a lot.
I really got led up the garden path by GTZM as I was on her for 14 months, yes 14, after we eventually got LEFO, we got to the channel orders to discharge Isle of Grain. There the 1st R/O rang up the local GTZM depot and told them got a jnr on here with 14 months in, can he sign off here at go home?? they said where is she going next, he told them Newcastle for drydock, depot says tell him to stay on till Newcastle and go home from there. I said to myself what a shower of -----!! What a way to treat someone. I wasn't needed to take the ship to Newcastle.
So off we went to Newcastle missed the morning tide, had to wait till next tide, it was saturday afternoon, all the others onboard, were Geordie's, they all went home on saturday, poor old me had to wait till Monday to go to Newcastle office to report. I said i would go home and go to Liverpool office, they said NO you must go to the local office where paid off!!
I was not a happy chappy believe me, and when i then asked the local gtzm branch for £300. they said NO you cannot have that much, i said why??, i have been away 14 months and have worked for it and saved it up. anyway they would not give me the requested amount.
I went on leave and sent them a letter and told them where to put their job
in no uncertain terms and went elsewhere to work!!
Whilst away and after 6 months kept thinking, might get transferred to a BANK boat on Indian coast and sent away for another 2 years, luckily that did not happen.
Certainly saw a bit of the world on that trip, the Indian serang died
when up the gulf, the Captain and Chief engineer were marched ashore at gunpoint by the NLF in Mukalla Bay (200miles East of Aden) a few days after British troops pulled out of Aden, taken to a deserted airstrip and interrogated, the NLF had pinched a Djibouti airways Dakota plane, shot the Senior pilot dead and left them with just the co-pilot, the NLF were after
ATK, but Captain did not tell em we had 400 barrels of it in the forehold,
i know that because i had to count them IN to the hold because the local guys up the gulf could not count, so i earned myself a case of beer for doing that, only had two mates ch/off and 3rd/off as second mate paid off sick in Mina al ahmadi a while before and no more reliefs available.
The Captain and Ch.eng were allowed back on board after about 9 hours
and immediately ordered cast off and full ahead, (Were tied up to buoys doing a stern discharge)
This was in front page of newspapers back home, my mother doing her nut
as it said the radio room is silent they must have an armed guard on it, they didn't. She rang up the union played blue murder with them---I would not have minded but i had not joined the union then as i had been told one afternoon by Marconi's i must go tonite to join the ship and had not had time to join!!. Should have seen my mums face when i told her!
Had a fire on board, all Indian crew had suitcases and sewing machines and
push bikes in the lifeboats and lifeboats launched (down aft).
nobody went to Fire stations of the indian crew, so if it was not for the ch/off and 3rd/off and a few engineers we could have been in very real trouble!! I must point out that NO abandon ship or launch lifeboats signals had been given. They said "sod you lot" we are off!!
Do not think Captain impressed by this behaviour at all and I believe all were logged, was not impressed myself either.!!
Also had to divert from course Japan to Gulf to drop a "sick" indian seaman off in Philippines---Manila, "supposed" to have possible stomach problem requiring immediate attention, XXX's to Hongkong for Medical advice
they said "must divert" to nearest port.
Anyway we dropped him in Manila and proceeded back to P.gulf again.
Got a report he did not have stomach problems, but used the same symptoms he had previously had when he was sick a few years before and required an operation. Basically nothing wrong except a dose of clap
he must have picked up from a five bob jiggy_ jig_ jig.
He was sent home to India from Philipines.
Captain informed BP and Common Brothers and Indian Pool this man must not be allowed to to sail on ANY BP or British ship in the future.
A few months later with an Indian crew change in Dubai, who walks up the gangway---yes you guessed it, MR TUMMYACHE!! from Bombay.
We could not believe our eyes.
Later in the long voyage we were approaching P.gulf when we got orders to go to So and So and load x thousand tons of oil to take to MUKALLA BAY
(again), well you should have seen the Captains face when he saw that
message. He replied to BP telling them in no uncertain terms we were NOT going to there again.
Next day we got new orders, load gulf for Japan again. Better than mukalla bay anyday!!
All in all a long trip but had a few good laughs but not at all impressed with marconi's treatment of their JR/O's. FTF(Cloud)

[holland25]

I got my 2nd Class PMG in March 1956 and joined MIMCO. I was asked to report to the Liverpool Office were I was sent for a medical at Clatterbridge Hospital on the Wirral.I was then directed to the Shipping Office were I was given my Discharge Book and ID card. I was then told to report to the Cunarder Parthia in Huskisson dock.I was supposed to ask for the Ist R/O, Mr Sullivan. When I got there I couldnt find anybody who was the least bit interested in me. The Radio Room was locked up, as were the cabins of the 2 senior R/Os. I hung around for a while and then gave up and went back home to Manchester.I returned next morning,which was Friday just in time for my first boat drill.Things livened up from then and I met my 2 seniors Mr Sullivan and Mr Markham. They were two pleasant elderly gentlemen, probably in their last few years at sea.I hope they had a long and enjoyable retirement.

I stayed aboard that night and the following morning, Saturday, we went alongside the Princess Landing Stage to take on the passengers, and in the afternoon we sailed for New York.We all stood a watch and I drew the 12-4. The main concern of the 2nd RO was how well I went at receiving the press,because until he was satisfied, he had to do it.I must have coped reasonably well, since I was pretty soon left alone. I have to confess however at making up some of the stock market numbers.

I was horribly seasick for about the first four days, which wasn't helped by the tobacco fumes that emanated from the seconds pipe.I was regularly fortified during the night watch by hourly rations of a pot of tea and rounds of buttered toast. I finally managed to face the food on offer, which was to my mind, quite lavish.

I settled into a pleasant sea going routine of a week across to New York, a week in New York, a week back to Liverpool and about the same amount of time in Liverpool.The writing was on the wall for ships like the Parthia which maintained quite a large staff for the passengers, but who were underemployed most of the time and in fact the passenger numbers were dropping drastically, the most we ever carried during my time was about 65, Eastbound. I think 1956 was the time air travel across the Atlantic overtook sea travel, and I must say that the atrocious weather thrown up by the Western Ocean was to be avoided if possible.

We were not allowed to mix with the passengers, my instructions were to politely answer any queries and then withdraw.I was allowed to attend the film shows which were run in the passengers lounge.

My pay was about 24 pounds per month with the right to draw 8 pounds per month from the ship. As you can imagine this didn't go very far, I seem to remember $4 US being my lot for a week in NY, kept me out of trouble. Luckily at that time there was the Merchant Navy Officers Club in a hotel just off Times Square, which was somewhere to go, and I don't think hamburgers at the Market Diner were all that expensive.

In New York we berthed alongside the 2 Queens, the Mauritania and the Caronia and just across from the Bermuda boats. The whole experience was quite something for a 17 year old.

I did my 6 months and then signed off and was sent to T& J Harrisons.

[Dumra]

After reading some of the postings above, my first trip seems very mundane.
Joined Methane Progress (owned by Conch Methane, operated by Shell tankers) in Belfast in September 1968 and spent 6 months on the route Canvey Island to Arzew in Algeria. Fairly busy with radio traffic and regular
skeds with sister ship Methane Princess. The senior mostly left me to get on with things and I learned a lot on that ship.
After some leave I joined ss Purnea/GFFJ (British India) in Tilbury and sailed on her for 13 months. What a great trip, Europe, Canaries, South Africa, Red Sea, Pakistan and all points East including Australia and NZ.
During my 10 years at sea I only sailed on one non BI ship.

[niggle]

Joined my First ship the ACT5 in Seaforth dock Liverpool August 1976, first stop Melbourne then to Sydney (Balmain not Botany Bay) Auckland Wellington back to Tilbury via Panama Canal all in just over two months. Next trip as junior was with Booker Line and one of their stalwart R/O's Alan Moss who had been there so long the saying onboard was that in the beginning God created Mossy then he built the Booker Vanguard. Again Liverpool with general cargo to the Caribbean islands of Tortola, St. Lucia Antigua and Trinidad followed by Paramibo in Surinam and turnaround in Georgetown Guyana where bulk Demerra sugar loaded back to Liverpool all in two months so still had two month seatime left a a junior. It seemed that I had progressed well enough to be let loose on a coastal tanker on my own for last two months so it was off to Milford Haven and the little Esso Inverness where I relieved an older R/O who's discharge book read like the history of post war Cunard with all their passenger ships in it. So for two months pottered right round the UK with various grades of petrol and Naptha to ports as diverse as Holy Loch(royal navy base) near Glasgow, Dublin, Immingham, Plymouth and yes actually went to Inverness....happy little ship. So after a good leave a call from Dave Wardley at IMRC sent me off deep sea for the first time on my own from all places Portishead on one of only two bulk phospherous carriers in the world at that time but thats a story for another day when its cold and wet outside and have a long time to recall one of my more memorable outings.

Niggle

[Rhodri Mawr]

.....mv Ripon/GVJK. Bolton SS Co Ltd. Joined it in Cardiff for short trip to Amsterdam then back to Birkenhead. That was while serving with Marconi Co. Typical of Marconi in those days - sent off my application. Back came the reply that they would be prepared to interview me "to see if I was a suitable candidate to join them." And while you are at it, bring your deep sea kit with you as we have a suitable ship all ready for you.

So it was off to Mountstuart Dry Dock in Cardiff to join mv Ripon. Great ship (at least it seemed so at the time). Old man was an alcoholic who had a habit of sacking me from time to time (when he was p----d) and then reinstating me the next morning when he was sober. Mostly a very uneventful six months spent aboard this vessel - the usual ports visited by bulkers of that time. Vitoria (Brazil), Conakry (West Africa) and Sagunto (Spain) and Seven Islands (Canada). However, we did get one unusual charter which was to load in Brazil for discharge in Philadelphia. Nobody aboard the ship would believe us when we received the orders by radio the previous voyage saying we were off to Philly. It was unheard of in those days for a Boltons ship to visit the States.

During one passage whilst inbound to Cardiff for discharge, the senior RO and I were on the 2000-2200 GMT watch when we picked up SOS from a small Spanish freighter which had lost its rudder in a storm to the southwest of Ireland. A good feat of seamanship followed by the Master (yes - he who usually "sacked" me) when we managed to get a line aboard her and took her in tow. 24 hours later, we dropped the tow in Cork and continued on our voyage to Cardiff. The long and short of it was that I received my first (and only) salvage award - the princely sum of £50 which was a month's wages to me in those days (1966).

Rest of the time spent aboard GVJK was very ordinary. At the end of my time, I had a quick turn around from GTZM - I was sent almost immediately to Southampton to joint the magnificent Shaw Savill liner Southern Cross/GSWW. Round the world in 77 days. Magnificent times. Those were the days.

[Kaytee]

I completed 2nd class at Earls Court, London. Joined GTZM at Eat Ham and sent to Liverpool to join Baron Inverclyde about 1961. Reasonable trip down to Durban via Dakar and Capetown. Little did we know what was to come. ON the way home around the Canary Islands we broke down, I think it was salt water in the boilers. Engines were shut down and a Dutch tug was sent to tow us into Las Palmas. There was no power and sea water leaking into the E/room! The first Dutch tug left for another job and another one towed us out of Las Palmas only to break down! Back to Las Palmas! Fixed the tug and we started the long tow back to Glasgow via Lisbon. I guess I thought it was an interesting first trip. I was 2/ro my chief was Mike Corry, whom I still remain in contact
Ken

[G4UMW]

I did two trips under Alan Moss on the Booker Vanguard - probably the perfect introduction to life as a sea-going R/O. Then on the container ship Columbia Star to the west coast of the USA and Canada and back to Europe. Finally the Wellington Star, from London's KG5 dock (now London City Airport) to New Zealand via Pitcairn Island. My senior, John Jackson, paid off in Lyttleton so my first trip in charge was round the NZ coast and back to Avonmouth via Curacao.

Rob

[IanSpiden]

Did 2nd class and radar at Leith Nautical , went with P&O straight away in1969 after a couple of months going between Soton and Tilbury the two passy boat terminals on the Iberia, Himalya and a couple of others I cant remember ( grey cells are going fast) doing a couple of weeks on each babysitting the ships while the permanent guys were on leave went as J/R/O on the Pando Cove MLQP ( ex Comorin ex Singapore) built in 1948 no AC We had a new Ericsson transmitter that could blast out 2kw and in fact it was so powerful it generated enough eddy currents to light the 24v light by itself !! we went from KG5 to Panama then through the canal to Japan , half way across we ran into a hurricane and were stuck for three days more or less in one place enough so that bunkers were in short supply so we went back to Hawaii for three days till we could get some , imagine 3 days in Hawaii with no cargo to work , trouble was the drinking age in Hawaii was 21 and a number of us were well under that age !! anyway off to Japan then Taiwan ,Hong Kong , Singapore, Durban and back to the UK couple of weeks leave then of again on the B run which if I remember correctly was out to
Japan the other way then back again going east to west with all the usual stops on the way, by that time I had my 6 months in so they took me off and put me on the Canberra as junior 4th ,, 8th of 8 R/O's. great days !!

[K urgess]

Welcome aboard, Ian.
Sounds like a good introduction to a life in the radio room.
Most of you guys make my first trip with Hungry Hogarth's in 1966 look like a walk in the park.

[charles henry]

I
I do remember the radar though, a Decca, with the transmitter up in the scanner. They had mentioned the model on the BOT Radar course at Leith, but then said we would never see one. I saw one. Close up. (POP)

That little radar was a marvelous thing, the receiver bolted to a bulkhead or was tucked under a settee. Came out if I remember right in '51/2 when standard marine radars came in huge metal houses that were welded onto the monkey island minimum 50 kw pulse and cost a bundle.

Decca used a tiny little klystron at (If I remember right) 10kw pulse and as you say, it was tucked under the antenna. On short range work it had the shortest pulse width available and would pick up a bouy in rough water.

And the whole thing sold for seven thousand quid..... and could be installed in an afternoon or less
Them were the days de chas (Pint)

[BobClay]

Ian. I did my 2nd Class and Radar at Leith, left in 1970. I'd started to go for a 1st but ran out of money, so wandered down to the Marconi depot and got a job. I don't remember many names from that day, but I lost a few months in 1968 after breaking my leg on an old BSA.
Charles, yup that radar would fit. The old coaster I was on was built in the late 40s. For some reason I thought it was called a Decca 45, but I'm probably thinking of the bloody records (Bill Haley/Beatles and such) I used to buy. Seem to remember the parabolic scanner was a double decker, transmitting and receiving.
I once sailed with a small japanese radar that used the same idea of putting the transmitter/receiver up in the scanner assembly (saves on waveguides, but changing a magnetron in bad weather was a bit of a no no unless you want to do an Ellen Macarthur up the mast).

[Dave Woods]

I got my 2nd class at Grimsby in 1967 and joined MIMCO, they somehow forgot about me for a month and I joined Ben Nevis in KG5, the Chief was Ray Burn. Nothing unusual, voyage round the Cape, apart from me being violently ill, (the Suez Canal being closed), to the Far East with Christmas in Hong Kong.

We arrived back in Singapore and Ray went up the road to see the doctor because he had a small pain in his lower abdomen – appendicitis! I then had to do the job up to Swetenam and Penang when he rejoined and have a quit voyage back home. My second ship was Lancing one of Steve Clark’s colliers running Goole to Shoreham, went for a month and stayed for 5.

In 1976 I was on Specialist/ GUVU, one of Harrisons big bulk carriers brand new out of Copenhagen (should have been called comedian, we had two Bob Hope’s and a Mike Yarwood). For some reason they gave me a second and all was fine for the first month, across the Atlantic and back to discharge in Hamburg. The R/O’s cabin was next door to the radio room and in it was a reclining leather chair, so one afternoon going down the channel I decided to go and put my feet up, well what could go wrong! I must have dozed off for a second or two when I woke up to the following:-
Niton Radio this is Goo Vuuuu, Niton Radio this is Goo ......... that is about as far as he got before the hand-set was nearly rammed up his nether regions. I cannot remember his explanation, not very good from what I remember, and after a run in with the old man he was removed when we got back to Europe.

[RO Vintage]

Hi All
Joined Marconi 1964 As Junior RO On The "Baron Minto" In Liverpool The Chief
RO Was Also From Dublin, But To Give His name Here I Would End Up In Court.
If He His Still Around, I Hope He Reads This. After About 6 Mths Of Doing Nothing In The Shack Except Clean The Brass And Fault Find On The OSpan
"Yes" He Would Put Faults On The Gear In The Mid Pacific As He Said It was
Good Taining For Junior ROs So As When The Span Blew Up, Or The Rest Of The Gear I Would Be A Expert At Clearing Faults "I Do Not Lie"

After About Seven Months He Jumped Ship In Townsville, The Rest Is History
Only To Say That I Got More QSPs Than Any Other RO In The MN Cos I had
Not A Clue How To Send any MSGs Or Run The Station, But Learned The hard
Way. If Any Other ROs Can Beat That Experience I Would Love To Hear From
You.

Paid Off In Liverpool 12 Months Later. Headed For The Depot And The Poor
Old Personnel Guy "No Names" Now Did Not Believe My Story. Was I Stupid
Or marconi? To This Day I Never Received Any Letters Etc Regarding The Chief RO........... My Finger Is Itching Now To Let You Know His Name, Lets
Say "NR" Thanks And Happy Memories.

RO Vintage (Marconi 22271)

[Mimcoman]

Hiya, Spats:

Couldn't you get to the last reunion - it's not too far from Minneapolis to the Station Hotel, surely?

[andysk]

Well, my JRO time seems quite mundane and boring compared with some !

I emerged from Norwood Tech in December 1970 with a 2nd PMG and (only just) failed BOT radar to 4 interviews, BP, RFA, Reardon Smith, and B & C. I deliberately chose not to apply to Marconi, having heard some stories about them from the college lecturers, anyway the Direct Employ companies paid better. From this came 3 offers, BP, B & C, Reardons; RFA said they'd let me know, I'm still waiting !

Joined B & C, stood by S A Oranje for a few days in Jan 1971 then sent to KGV London to join Rothesay Castle, RO was Roger Perks who also had his wife aboard. Voyage was Hamburg, Rotterdam, Las Palmas and the usual Cape ports to Beira with general, then back to load the first fruit of the season from Durban, PE and Cape Town for Le Havre and Southampton. I can remember being horribly seasick going down channel in a force 9 (but so was Nelson); leaving it rather late to get back to the ship in Rotterdam; all that steam shunting the docks in South Africa; an 'interesting' run ashore in LM; and absolutely nothing at all of 21st birthday which took place crossing the channel from Le Havre to Southampton. I don't think my parents were too impressed by my condition the following day ....

That was exactly 3 months, which was followed by 3 trips as 4th (of 4) on Edinburgh Castle with a superb Chief, R MacCormack, what a gentleman, even took my watch on Crossing the Line day so I could see what went on.

After a total of 208 days seatime (should have been 182) I was sent away on my own to join Clan Macleod on a voyage to India via the Cape and Mauritius. No air con, no hot water in the cabins, but what a great trip, great crowd, just on 6 months.

Those were the days ....

[R651400]

Slight deviation but not off topic. Direct employ circa 1956 with a 2nd Class PMG was virtually impossible.
I still have memories of disbelief that I was accepted by Blue Funnel and think the one reason could be I had the brass neck to apply before sitting the PMG2.
By the sixties it seems to have changed and my guess is there was a big swing away from radio company style rental including amalgamation between liner and cargo shipping companies into bigger outfits?

[Ivor Lloyd]

First trip as 3rd R/O City of Lille 1942 (Most if not all ships carried 3 R/O's in
wartime). I had just turned 16 !
I distinctly remember keeping the 12-4 watch bucket between my knees feeling very ill, seasick, homesick and fed up. Thankfully it only lasted a couple of days
The only other time I was seasick was in the lifeboat after having been torpedoed.
Thoroughly enjoyed the rest of my time at sea.

[Tai Pan]

Slight deviation but not off topic. Direct employ circa 1956 with a 2nd Class PMG was virtually impossible.
I still have memories of disbelief that I was accepted by Blue Funnel and think the one reason could be I had the brass neck to apply before sitting the PMG2.
By the sixties it seems to have changed and my guess is there was a big swing away from radio company style rental including amalgamation between liner and cargo shipping companies into bigger outfits?

I also walked into India Buildings with a 2nd Clas PMG. taken on there and then, shipped out the following week. that was 1952. had 18 months sea time with mimc so that helped, did not even have to go to Aberdovey. must have been short staffed. (A)

[Tai Pan]

Started with MIMC. 1st ship, Isle of Jersey. Southampton to Channel islands. spent 3 months. first day, the 1st R/O Tommy Stubbs, took me into the radio room, the only thing I knew was thye CR300. No auto Alarm. only a mf transmitter (the one with 3 windows in the front). and the P/A system. and a door into his cabin.
This is what you do. Take BBC weather at 9pm. go to bed. we sail at 11pm, send a TR to GNI, then keep awake. when we pass Casquets ( were the hell were the Casquets I wonder) send just the word Casquets to Gernsey radio (British rail station) on 500. when we dock, have breakfast, the come back for the trip to Jersey. when we dock go to bed.
With that he disappeared into his cabin and I did not see him again till Jersey.
The TR to GNI was the full monty, much to the groans of the operator there, probaly said, "Tommies got a new one. " That was a full 8 hours to Guernsey and a further hour to Jersey. Tommy never did a stroke only used the 2180 R/T to tell GNI we were passing the needles. Probably had a private system for them to phone his misses.

[K urgess]

To go to sea in wartime at the age of 16 in one of the most targetted positions in the ship fills me with admiration, Ivor. Well done and thanks. (Thumb)
I didn't join Marconi until my 20th birthday and then spent a month on leave because of the seaman's strike.
The thought of joining anyone else didn't cross my mind. Nobody warned us off MIMCo and the idea of being stuck on the same sort of ship on the same runs never did appeal.
Maybe I was lucky but I feel my seatime was about as varied and enjoyable as I could get at the time.
A lot of my enjoyment was from the way I was taught to operate when I was a junior. Good game.[=P]

[BA204259]

To go to sea in wartime at the age of 16 in one of the most targetted positions in the ship fills me with admiration, Ivor. Well done and thanks. (Thumb)
[=P]

Absolutely Marconi Sahib. Fortunately most of us will never know the horrors they went through. I remember reading that when a U-boat surfaced the first shell normally went through the radio room. Assuming of course that he hadn't used a torpedo on you. Many years ago I worked with an ex R/O just coming up to his 60th birthday and retirement, at a time when I was in my early twenties. He'd been sunk on five separate ships and survived the lot. I can't remember if he was married and lived too far away to commute, or if he was single. He lived in a hostel for the single blokes. What I do remember was that in his room and laying across the arms of an old armchair was his suitcase, lid open but packed ready to go. Just in case there was a sixth time. Makes you wonder...

Cheers, Ivor!!

[holland25]

I only ever had a 2nd Class PMG, but was employed by Blue Funnel in 1957, with about a years experience.I had walked into India Buildings a few times, and I was told to keep trying. I was also taken on by the RFA in 1968, after about 7 years ashore and 6 months on a Weather Ship.The job on the Weather Ships I got, by answering an ad in Practical Wireless. It was either that or the Falkland Islands radio station.

[aselador]

I joined my first ship in Tilbury in December 1980, it was an OCL containership Flinders Bay/GYSA. I can recall sending a TR to GNI, which I managed to complete without any mishap. The trip itself was the usual tour of northern europe before transiting Suez and crossing the Indian Ocean to Fremantle. The senior R/O was called Bob Bate, who gave me an excellent introduction to life at sea, I believe he left the sea shortly after to join GCHQ. By the time we reached Fremantle the UK seamans dispute had escalated and as soon as we got alongside the crew went on strike. All in all we were strikebound for almost 5 weeks, the only painful aspect of this from my perspective was that the only time of day we could receive the GZXY updates from GKA was about three in the morning, no real hardship as we had little else to do. I can still remember Jim Slater's (NUS leader) sign off on every message "Pull together lads". On a visit to Perth VIP I was surprised to learn that most of the operators were UK ex pats or Scandinavians, there was even a hint of a job there if I so desired, it was very tempting looking at the lifestyle in WA but I went to sea to see the world as they say. As I recall once we left Fremantle we spent a further 2 weeks in Sydney because of a wharfies strike, I was beginning to think that this was par for the course by this time. The skipper was Capt Brian Chipperfield an absolute gent, it was a long time before I encountered an OM as good as he. Happy days.

[P_sparks]

1969 that was when I got my 2nd Class ticket. My college lecturer told me to leave and get a job before they changed their minds and took it back again. So I joined Marconi at the East Ham depot and after a few days mucking about down there started my first trip on the Benratha.

That was just fantastic. Via Capetown first stop was Singapore, then Penang and Port Swettenham. We also did Bangkok and East Malaysia Tawau, Sandakan, Jesselton and Miri then Indonesia Pontianak, Telok Ayer - hmmmm best run in the world I reckon - Singapore Penang and Bangkok what an introduction to life at sea, age 17 and 18 during the trip.

Radio room was small and cosy. Chief was John D - he was a nice guy who taught me a lot about how to behave on-board and especially in the radio room. Always in trouble though I messed up on my first message to Portishead and John had to explain to them that I was really just a half trained monkey.

Four months later the ship was back in London and I paid off with a suitcase full of goodies from the Far East. Marconi's sent me home for some leave and then I did the rest of my 6 months as junior on the UK coast - MF only - before flying out in December to the Persian Gulf to take my first ship as R/O.

I'd do it all over again -

Pete

[andysk]

....... The senior R/O was called Bob Bate, who gave me an excellent introduction to life at sea, I believe he left the sea shortly after to join GCHQ. ......

Was Bob Bate ex B & C ?

[offshore eddie]

Hi there Mateys,

Rememebr my 1st as though it were yesterday. Departed Leeds City station headed for Isle of Grain, where I joined my 1st BP tanker 'British Grenadier' - GJCH. Felt a bit queasy during crossing Bay of Biscay on way to Kuwait via Suez. 1st RO was from Fishguard - can't remember his name but he looked a lot like that old actor Robert Morley. Once he was convinced I knew what I was doing, I hardly seen him except on occasions when he ran out of booze.
Pretty much uneventful trip, but was slightly miffed when I was told after 6 months that I had to go on leave. Thought at the time life onboard was great and didn't want to leave. Alas went of from there, doing mostly freelance work with various companies like Star shipping, Zimm line and Canadian Pacific before hearing about this wonderful world offshore, so after 9 years deepsea, tansferred to offshore life where I was intended to give it 5 years at the most. However a lifetime later I am still here. Great to hear those voyages of discovery, with names and places that bring back many memories. Keep em coming mateys

[offshore eddie]

Offshore Eddie here again, Forgot to mention at the onset, that my ventures began back in 1965 after many years chasing a 2nd then a 1st class PMG at NESWT in Bridlington E Yorks, Had the time of my life there and had some great fellow students. Unfortunatel never kept in touch and often wonder whatever happened to many of them. Any ex-NESWT R/o's out there.???

[K urgess]

Welcome aboard from East Yorkshire, Eddie.
No doubt you'll meet our gang of NESWT reprobates soon as they see your post.
I went to Hull 64 to 66 but I now live 12 miles from Brid.
Enjoy the trip.

[trotterdotpom]

Offshore Eddie here again, Forgot to mention at the onset, that my ventures began back in 1965 after many years chasing a 2nd then a 1st class PMG at NESWT in Bridlington E Yorks, Had the time of my life there and had some great fellow students. Unfortunatel never kept in touch and often wonder whatever happened to many of them. Any ex-NESWT R/o's out there.???

Hello Eddie. I was at NESWT as part of the last intake and left in '65 when it closed and we were scattered to the four winds. If you left in that year with a ticket our paths must have crossed, but you would have been ahead of me. Hawkeye01, who will no doubt see your post, is probably more of your vintage.

For information, there is a NESWT website at http://daimler.co.uk/neswt/ that you might be interested in. If you remember Mervyn "Doc" Foster I can put you in touch with him. Sadly, his sidekick, Ian "Gus" Alexander died a few years ago while en route to join a ship.

John T.

[offshore eddie]

John T,

Think I left Brid sometime in 64, went back to leeds and spent a few months working as a stage hand at Leeds grand theatre before my dad asked me when I was gonna use the tickets he had worked and paid for, and eventually got away think it was March 0f 65.
Afraid cannot remember either DOC or GUS.

Eddie

[Trevorw]

Offshore Eddie here again, Forgot to mention at the onset, that my ventures began back in 1965 after many years chasing a 2nd then a 1st class PMG at NESWT in Bridlington E Yorks, Had the time of my life there and had some great fellow students. Unfortunatel never kept in touch and often wonder whatever happened to many of them. Any ex-NESWT R/o's out there.???

Was at Brid in 1953/54, along with my twin brother Vic. It was a long time ago, but I remember Russell the Principal - he drove a Lanchester, Maclean the Theory Lecturer, and his graphic description of a commutator, "An automatic reversal of the brush polarities", accompanied by much hand turning! Then there was Mr & Mrs Hill, the Matron and her husband the "Chef" - the food was worse than BOT! Oh yes, then there was Dennis Talbot the morse and Handbook man - a regular at the Brunswick Arms and a keen customer of Shanghai Lill, the local hooker!

It's a long time ago, but other fellow pupils I can remember were:- Ian Patrick, "Blobby" Roberts, "Chopper" Horner (who used to service Mrs Hill) an Indian guy who'se surname was Charles - who also used to service Mrs Hill, "Titch" Mason, Ian St. John Stevas, Graham Hurst, Terry Glover, David Sturdy, Ian Tomlinson, Phil Marriott, plus the more mature and studious ones who lived in splendid isolation, i.e. Buckley, Birkenshaw and Hart!!

There are more, but memory fails me and I've gone on long enough!!

[BrynW]

Left Wireless College Colwyn Bay clutching my 2nd class PMG December 1956 and joined Marconi to be sent to Eastham office where I joined the B&I ship Kenya as 3rd R/O Chief was Jack Masterman and the 2nd was a guy called Rice, (forgot his first name). We all did a watch apiece although they were keeping a watch on me at the same time, two great guys they taught me a great deal. Must have had a good report from Jack Masterman as I signed off the Kenya 18/2/57 after two months and one week.
Marconi allowed me 7 days leave and I then joined the Baron Berwick on 25/2/57 in Tilbury as R/O could not believe it as I thought we had to do at least 6 months accompanied. Stuck it out with Hungry Hogarths for one trip and sent a message to Marconi "Get me off this ship as I am starving" believe it or not they sent a relief out to Rotterdam and I signed off on the 11/4/57 having done a grand total of 46 days. Mind you they got their own back as the next ship was a Caltex Tanker and I never saw the UK for another 15 months.
After that it was all plain sailing solo as R/O wherever they sent me other than my time aboard the "La Cordillera" for Buries Markes when Marconi actually put a trainee with me for his first trip, we only had to do an 8 hour day between us so after the first week or so I had it easy from then on in as he was the keen type and I could not get near the office seat as he logged in at least 15 minutes before time which suited me down to the ground.
BrynW

[Keckers]

Leith Nautical College - applied to something like 85 companies (I didn't know there were so many shipping companies around) in the late 70's - only got one positive reply; and after a trade test and interview at Newcastle (2 days long) joined Marconi.

1st Ship was the m/v Tactician (4 and a half months)- Birkenhead-Port Sudan-Aden-Mombasa-Tanga or Pemba?-Dar Es Salaam-Zanzibar-Mocambique-Mombasa-Avonmouth. Great time (make that a wonderful time) spent mostly doing ALRS corrections and some light morse work (majority of time spent ashore playing footie and/or drinking Tusker). Senior R/O was from Dunloughaire (Dublin) and very very old - can't now remember his name.
2nd Ship was gtv Asiafreighter (2 months-ish)- Greenock-NY(Weehawken NJ)-Baltimore-Wilmington(NC)-Charleston-Savanah-Le Havre-Rotterdam-Bremmerhaven-Hamburg(?)-Greenock. Lousy time spent with a bunch of cliquey a***holes - busy as well with morse and the then very new INMARSAT system. Only highlight was getting severe damage crossing the pond and being stuck in NY for 10 days....only decent time spent on that thing. Senior R/O was an a**wipe from Newcastle.

Was supposed to go on my own after my 1st trip on a small Fisher vessel with radioactive waste from Sellafield to Japan but was very ill when they phoned - not faking it - as I was genuinely ill - alhough on reflection was the best thing I did as the ship later sank (although not sure if that was the trip I should have done or was later on...). Either way, a lucky escape even having to endure the Asiafreighter.

[Paul Braxton]

Came out of radio college in '69 and joined Mimco's after failing to join NZS, who wanted people with experience!

First trip was on Shell's ''Serenia"/GHLE, which I joined after a long and tedious trip out to Thameshaven. I was overwhelmed by the size of the ship and her gear, with a Crusader main TX which I'd never seen, we having trained on the inevitable Oceanspan at college. Remember meeting the chief R/O, Paddy someone, who hailed from the Emerald Isle and had been at sea for 21 years, longer than I'd been alive! He passed me a can of beer to complement the effects of various inocculations I'd just had, then introduced me to the radio room with the words: "This'll be your radio room, Jim. If you need me you know where to find me." (In the bar.)

Great stuff. I was scared witless but learned a lot. First customer came up the day we sailed and wanted to send an SLT home. I passed him the pad at which point he scowled a bit and said something to the effect that "Sparks usually writes it out"... First mistake. He was the Chief Engineer. I was really in at the deep end. Never saw my 'boss' but he had the endearing habit of coming into the radio room long after I'd gone to bed and leaving a b######ing note for me when I fronted up next morning. He'd do it on a message pad and the ballpoint pen would've gone through the first 5 or 6 pages with the energy of said telling off. Great stuff again. Lots of fun when something failed. He was far too fat to get down to see anything below waist level and would relay instructions to me from a circuit diagram while I took measurements with an AVO. Actually, he was too large to get behind the bar and had to get somebody else to get his drinks for him.

But I did learn a lot, and fast. Saw the sinking of the VLCC '"Marpessa" in '69 off Dakar and I was tied to the radio room the whole time while everyone else was out filming and watching the fire, etc. Baptism of fire alright.

Pay in those days for the first six months was £61 12s 6d and I was paying Mimco's £5 a month in repayments for a loan to buy my uniform. Still got the Mimco handout (in mint condition) - Passport to the World. Went down to West Africa for several trips and back to Europe. Food onboard was the best bit of it all. Chinese crew and a long sprint down the flying bridge to the saloon aft. Used to have to time that sprint when seas were being shipped across the maindeck or risk a soaking. Wouldn't have had it any other way!

Paul

[Unireefer]

First trip was on a reefer, "Scamper Universal/4QTH", Sri Lankan flag and owned in a roundabout way by Safmarine to avoid apartheid problems. Joined her in Marseille and remember thinking it was the rustiest ship I'd ever seen (and still is!). Straight to drydock in Setubal then back and forward from Europe to the Caribbean with bananas. Have always thought reefers are the classiest looking vessels. This was in 1986 and I took every opportunity to use morse, despite having radiotelex onboard. Remember working Portishead one time and the operator saying "good morse" - praise from God I thought at the time! Had 3 seniors in 6 months, 2 Brits and a Sri Lankan. The Sri Lankan guy had a very distinctive "fist", didn't hold the key but just tapped it with one finger. 3 years later I heard a ship calling Las Palmas radio - thought I recognised the fist, called him up on the off chance and sure enough it was him.

On my first trip as qualified R/O, they gave me a junior. Decent bloke from Manchester. Old Man was doing his weekly rounds when he came storming up to the shack, shouting blue murder and wanting to find the junior. JRO had disappeared half an hour earlier to his cabin for a call of nature and inadvertently left a "log in the bog". I was invited to view this fine specimen and given instructions to bollock the guy when he came back. The fact the skipper took it so seriously made it even funnier. Happy days.

[bert thompson]

Applied to MIMC in November 1948 but there were no vacancies. Was told that was caused by many ex wartime R/Os being able to get a 2nd class by sitting a paper (understand there was about six papers doing the rounds and you would get one of them) In November 1950 after demob from the RAF and a MOT Radar ticket I applied and was accepted immediately. Two weeks at Cardiff learning all about MIMC paper work. Joined my first ship,a collier, Chelwood at Blyth and met one of the nicest Captains I ever sailed with. A Shetland gentleman Jim Clark. After my six months were up I stayed on for a further six and would have stayed longer but of course MIMC did not like to let you stay too long on any one ship. Never discovered why. Next ship was the British Endeavour with the usual trip up the Persian Gulf.Stayed on her for over two years.MIMC must have forgot that I existed. Was never on any ship with another R/O until I returned to the sea in 1987 having renewed my ticket. Had a young girl as junior and my wife accompanied me. Life with Redifon and laterly Panocean Anco where I stayed for ten years. What a different world I found after eighteen years ashore. Guess I was born too soon.
Bert.

[ernhelenbarrett]

After getting my PMG at Leith Nautical in 1954 Marconi sent me down to AST
Hamble to bone up on various bits of equipment then joined my first ship "Avistone/GBSV" as 2nd R/O on the Iron Ore trade to the Med and UK with one trip to Conakry thenwent on my own on British Gratitude/MAGQ on the UK/Baltic/Northern Norway/Sweden run then made the fatal mistake of joining the Palamcotta in Middlesboro and got back to the UK about 5 years later after found out I was with BI out in India on such exotic ships as Dara Karanja Itaura Itria and Orna,even my folks had emigrated to Canada by the time I got home
Ern Barrett

[R651400]

I joined Leith Nautical in 1954 for PMG2 and there were two 1st Classers who I can say not only influenced my life but the rest of the class. One who warned me against Marconi and ending up on the Indian coast for period unknown and the other Clive Knibb who extolled the virtues of direct employ particularly with Blue Funnel. Mci bcp Clive.

[Quiney]

Joined my First ship the ACT5 in Seaforth dock Liverpool August 1976, first stop Melbourne then to Sydney (Balmain not Botany Bay) Auckland Wellington back to Tilbury via Panama Canal all in just over two months. Next trip as junior was with Booker Line and one of their stalwart R/O's Alan Moss who had been there so long the saying onboard was that in the beginning God created Mossy then he built the Booker Vanguard. Again Liverpool with general cargo to the Caribbean islands of Tortola, St. Lucia Antigua and Trinidad followed by Paramibo in Surinam and turnaround in Georgetown Guyana where bulk Demerra sugar loaded back to Liverpool all in two months so still had two month seatime left a a junior. It seemed that I had progressed well enough to be let loose on a coastal tanker on my own for last two months so it was off to Milford Haven and the little Esso Inverness where I relieved an older R/O who's discharge book read like the history of post war Cunard with all their passenger ships in it. So for two months pottered right round the UK with various grades of petrol and Naptha to ports as diverse as Holy Loch(royal navy base) near Glasgow, Dublin, Immingham, Plymouth and yes actually went to Inverness....happy little ship. So after a good leave a call from Dave Wardley at IMRC sent me off deep sea for the first time on my own from all places Portishead on one of only two bulk phospherous carriers in the world at that time but thats a story for another day when its cold and wet outside and have a long time to recall one of my more memorable outings.

Niggle


It seemed a 'regular' route for IMRC juniors

I did one trip on Denholms Arctic Troll, followed by two on Booker Viking (the regular sparkie was Don Macrae, who had a similar pedigree to Mossy)
That two month trip to the West Indies was a fantastic run and running out of Liverpool, my home port at the time (lived about 25 miles away)

Was also allowed on the Esso Inverness with still one month of my 'six' to do.
The chief engineer used to do the run up the road for the papers. seemed to spend more time in port than at sea!

[Troppo]

In Australia, we did 3 months understudy time. This was enough, really – if you didn’t know the job after 3 months, well then you shouldn’t have been there. In reality, the 3 month period was probably at the request of tight ship-owners, rather than the result of any considered training analysis, however…

I joined my first ship, Ariake/GWED in Melbourne on November 30, 1980. I still remember walking up the gangway for the first time.

Ariake was a beautiful P and O box boat, about 35,000T (big, in those days). She looked like a yacht – white hull/superstructure and black funnels. We had all the P and O stuff – uniform of the day, Chinese stewards, 12 pax, drinkies, the whole deal.

Ariake was built in Bremerhaven in the mid 70’s, and was fitted out beautifully.

The radio room was fantastic – two STR1600 main tx and two Collins synthesised receivers – both of which worked off the 24v batts when needed.

A dream for a first tripper – it was all down hill from there, ship wise, that’s for sure!

We were on a regular liner service between Australia and Japan, with the occasional South Korean trip thrown in. Three ports in Australia, and 4 ports in Japan.

I was a very active amateur radio operator before I went to sea, so operating was no big deal for me. I fronted up for my first watch with my electronic keyer under my arm – much to the Chief’s surprise…

I had 2 Chiefs in the 3 months in GWED – the first was a real old timer who didn’t want me there at all – we split the watches – I did the 8-12 and he did the other 2 (much to my annoyance..). I worked on my sun tan on the monkey island in the afternoon…

This all changed when the 2nd Chief came aboard – I did all the watches. He was a mad Irishman by the name of Tom Brady – a first class R/O and a lovely bloke. He insisted that I learnt to take the wx on the typewriter – a great skill that I used on every other ship. Tom and I still keep in touch.

The Japanese coast stations were really efficient. You could set your watch by their traffic lists, and their signals were excellent. I always wondered why I could work JCS in Sydney Harbour, but VIS was QSA1 in Tokyo Bay!

I found out many years later that the VIS 22MHz CW tx antenna was a single dipole, at about 20 feet above ground……

A good trick Tom taught me when calling JCS on HF was to slur the J in your initial call and not to use your own callsign (i.e. JCS JCS JCS…) – apparently Japanese ships used this trick – it always worked….JCS thought I was a Japanese ship and came straight back with a DE.

Halcyon days.

I did 11 years at sea – I went to sea as a bright eyed 19 yo, and was at sea for all of my 20’s.

With the advent of GMDSS, we were offered either retraining as a mate, or a golden handshake. By this stage, I had about 100 hrs understudy time on the bridge, and the old man was letting me do meal reliefs. I would regularly do the telegraphs and the movement book on the bridge. So, I was set to follow my father (a mate during WW2) on to the bridge.

However, the demands of a young family meant that the bag of gold at the bottom of the gangway was just too tempting, and I swallowed the anchor in 1991.

I have remained in the marine radio field ever since.

Would I do it again?

Yep.

[Don Armour]

Bryn's key went silent 17 Feb 2010, also posted on Shipmates Remembered of this forum.

Those who knew him will miss him and those who didn't will simply have missed out.

RIP

[Graham P Powell]

My experience was like Holland 25. Joined Royal Mail Line ship Aragon in London docks. Green as grass!. Chief was named Rollason and retired at the end of the trip. 2/R/O was Jack Barter who died on the Royston Grange. AEI radio gear which I had never ever seen. Sick as a dog the whole trip. In fact I was told to give up seafaring. The 1966 seamans striked started just after we sailed and sometimes the GKA HF 24 ship traffic list would only have 2 call signs GVSV (Nevasa I think) and GVVT which was us. I think were the only ship during the strike to sail into Southampton and out again. Shipping master would not sign the crew off as the had signed on in London.
Came home and had more leave than I had earnt. Soon as the strike broke
back to RML and sister ship Amazon /GVVV. Wonderful times in BA and the 2/R/O's were always very helpful. Dont regret any of it.

[Mimcoman]

My experience was like Holland 25. Joined Royal Mail Line ship Aragon in London docks. Green as grass!. Chief was named Rollason and retired at the end of the trip. 2/R/O was Jack Barter who died on the Royston Grange. AEI radio gear which I had never ever seen. Sick as a dog the whole trip. In fact I was told to give up seafaring. The 1966 seamans striked started just after we sailed and sometimes the GKA HF 24 ship traffic list would only have 2 call signs GVSV (Nevasa I think) and GVVT which was us. I think were the only ship during the strike to sail into Southampton and out again. Shipping master would not sign the crew off as the had signed on in London.
Came home and had more leave than I had earnt. Soon as the strike broke
back to RML and sister ship Amazon /GVVV. Wonderful times in BA and the 2/R/O's were always very helpful. Dont regret any of it.



Hi Graham:

Nevasa was GPQV. I joined her in 1970, after a trip on Akaroa (ex-Amazon). By that time, GVVV had a Crusader and R408, with an Oceanspan VIIE and Atalanta as backup. I was transferred onto GVVV in Cape Town after the Chief R/O had to go home as his wife had developed brain cancer. His name was Bob Pett or Petch? - perhaps you remember him or maybe Ron can help as I believe Bob ended up working in Elettra House, Chelmsford, in the accounts department. I really enjoyed (most of) my time on her. Best callsign I ever sent.

(Graham: Just read your input about Bob Petch in another thread.)

[Graham P Powell]

Mimcoman, Many thanks for that. Most interesting. When I was on GVVV the gear was all AEI. 600 w main TX which seem to work quite well. Old fashioned receivers. Bob Petch was a lovely guy from E.London. He must have been made chief after Ted Winslow retired. Winslow was an interesting character if of a rather peppery dispostion. Former gun runner in the Spanish civil war and personal friend of Louis Mountbatten who he always referred to as "Louis".
Somebody did tell me once that the C/R/O had been flown home from SA having a wife with cancer. I seem to remember they had had a little boy quite late in life. One can only assume that Bob is a silent key these days.
Got the call sign of the Nevasa wrong. I must ask one of my GKA colleagues who has an encyclopaedic knowledge of call signs which ships GVSV was.
Was it Empress of Canada. Not sure. I remember the stunning nursing sister was girlfriend of one of the Nevasa's r/o's. Great days. Remembered with pleasure.

[hawkey01]

Morning Graham,

GVSV was not the Empress of Canada - seem to think it was GHLA. Thought GVSV was a RM A class but you would know better on that score. I am sure the RO on the Nevasa who's' girlfriend was the nursing sister was John Menzie or similar name. I should know his name as I did know him. He had been on the Kampala/Kenya/Uganda for a longtime with a 2nd class and he came to NESWT to take his 1st Class so he could be made Ch RO. He was on the Amazon at one stage and also a friend of mine who was 2nd called Dave Gunn.

Neville - Hawkey01

[jimg0nxx]

Empress of Canada was indeed GHLA. Did several relieving trips in her during 1968.

Jim

[keith ratcliffe]

Obtained PMG2nd at Merseyside College of Radio ,1962, tutor Gerry Ludden. Joined Marconi. First ship Strick Line Armanistan, Manchester,Persian Gulf, India and Liverpool. Ch/R/O Angus McNeil. He had never trained a junior before and was reluctant to let me loose on the morse key prefering to use his bug key which I must admit he handled well. He did however introduce me to the pleasures of whisky. 4 months later joined the Elders and Fyffes Changuinola for two trips Garston to Cameroons and back. Ch/R/O T.P.Jones from Shropshire. A good man who was appalled at my lack of operational experience, so made sure I did everything, my confidence grew and I left very grateful to my good friend Mr Jones. I was now on my own with two short trips with Cunard and PSNC before deep sea with Silver Line.

[valencia59]

HI fellas,
When I got my MRGC from Northern Counties I must have written to every shipping company listed ! Nobody was taking on in 1979. I was very lucky and got an interview with the GPO to join GKA which I passed and duly ended up in Burnham. I loved every minute of my time at GKA but still felt that I wanted to go to sea.To my eternal shame I used to spend time whilst on night shift in the telex wing, B wing I think, sending out applications to foreign shipping companies. I ended up with the offer of a job on an Italian LPG ship called the Luigi Casale/ IBVL. I was to have 1 Month with the R/O, I joined the ship (bright orange with a blue funnel with a dolphin breathing fire on it) in Cochin S.India and sailed to Kuwait to pick up amonia and then back to Bombay 2 days discharge and then Cochin 7 days discharge. The R/O paid off in Bombay, Good bloke very laid back. That left me and a ship full of Italians ! I stayed on that ship for 10 months and had the time of my life It wasn't until a few years later that I actually sailed on a British flagged ship when I joined Electro Nav. I can honestly say that I loved my time at sea and in hindsight wished I had never left, but thats the way it goes. cheers
Nick Mc.

[frank fawl]

First trip was with gtzm (liverpool) joined oil tanker "el lobo" at elsmereport. Strange crowd on that one. The third mate walked about the deck always wearing white gloves, the Captain ( had a double barreled french name peers robier or something similar).
The crew were a tough bunch from Liverpool mostly drs. and after
about a week out of Liverpool bound for callao peru had beaten up
the mate and chased the old man back over the flying bridge.
Not a very convivial number for a first tripper but interesting.
The chief R/O came from Gurnsey and constantly dropped remarks
about his Jaguar into conversation. He wasn't the bravest of souls
and ordered me to go back aft and fix the broadcast receiver in
the crews wreck room which had been torn off the bulkhead.
Thank God the crew did not take to a junior like they did to the
senior officers or I would have been mincemeat, after repairs some
of the lads asked me to share a beer which was very decent of them as they were rationed to 2 a day.
On returning to midships the "jaguar" gave me a right b*********
and lecture on fraternising with the crew.
After three months and returning to Liverpool was glad to be told
I was leaving the ship and going solo on a "maggie Booth's ship
the "Dominic". What a ship and what a crew. This ship showed me
what a life on the ocean wave was all about and i stayed on board
for 3 years on and off.

[freddythefrog]

Hawkeye and Graham Powell.
GVSV callsign was the Royal mail passy ship ARLANZA, remember calling him up in channel for a natter, my best mate was an R/O on it at the time and he happened to be on the 12 to 4 when i called him!!Happy days cheers ftf

[ernhelenbarrett]

Got my PMG at Leith Nautical in 1954 and joined Marconi in Leith who decided
to send me down to the Air Service Training (AST) place at Hamble to get familiar with some of the gear then on Passenger and other GTZM vessels, had to sign a clause stating we would not sue Marconi if we had our heads knocked off by low flying DC3's as it was also a flying school. Used to visit a nice couple of pubs there, the White Hart being one. Marcon must have decided I wasnt passenger ship material as I joined the "Avistone/GBSV ex Empire Martaban built 1943 as
junior R/O on the North Africa/UK iron ore trade with one trip down to Conakry.
After my 6 months joined the British Gratitude/MAGQ on the UK/Norway/Sweden/Denmark/Russia run...believe it or not she had a SPARK set as Emergency TX and an Emergency RX where you lifted a lid and replaced coils calibrated in METRES not Kcs to change frequency. After a year on her they wanted me to join the Shell "Velutina" and they were going to give me a Junior as she was so BIG (28000 tons) I said no way so was shanghaid to Middlesboro to join the B.I. Palamacotta on a 3 month trip to Bombay before going on leave....Was transferred to the BI "Dara" on the Gulf run and ....5 years later...nuff said
Ern Barrett

[Naytikos]

At Plymouth there seemed to be a backdoor connection to Marconi's because one had to make a positive step to apply elsewhere; otherwise, upon leaving the college, one was given a date to report at either Avonmouth or East Ham depots 'for induction' without ever actually asking for a job at all.
So I ended up at Avonmouth only to be told, "go home and wait for a call from East Ham, your salary begins today". Three days later I found myself on Benmacdhui/MADX (the 1947 version) at Royal Docks.
The chief was Gideon Kerr, who seemed to have been on the maiden voyage, and whose highland accent was completely incomprehensible to me.
We got on well, perhaps because I didn't mind climbing to fix the radar scanner and VHF antenna, which he couldn't manage.
After 3 months 18 days around the far east, out through Suez, back around the Cape, we arrived in Hamburg and Ben line chartered a Viscount to fly the whole ship's company back to Heathrow. I was only too relieved it wasn't to Edinburgh.
After that I was sent on my own for two trips on a GSNS 1600grt toy boat to Italy with general and back with bulk wine and Carrera marble. Reliance main Tx and I sent more traffic on the aldis lamp than by radio.
Then I got a proper ship, a Bank-boat.

[Graham P Powell]

Sorry Freddy but the Arlanza was GVVS. I will have to ask two of my ex GKA colleagues Roger or John. They will definitely know!.

[freddythefrog]

Graham
My sincere apologies ref the callsign GVSV, must be the advancing years
and poor memory--it was nearly 40 years ago Lol!
Even my mate thought it to be correct---same age and memory as me.
Not sure if GVSV was Empress of England??? maybe someone with a callsign book can look it up for us. Sri! cheers ftf

[Tai Pan]

Born Liverpool. Lived Liverpool. Joined MIMC Liverpool, immediate train ticket to Southampton. ( weird sense of humour). still nice ships from southampton. sent to British rail ferry. soton/jersey Nov.Dec.Jan, nice weather. start of the rot betwix me and GTZM. thank the lord for GTZB.

[Roger Bentley]

Graham
My sincere apologies ref the callsign GVSV, must be the advancing years
and poor memory--it was nearly 40 years ago Lol!
Even my mate thought it to be correct---same age and memory as me.
Not sure if GVSV was Empress of England??? maybe someone with a callsign book can look it up for us. Sri! cheers ftf

Yes she was GVSV - Lloyds List 1962, Regards, Roger

[K urgess]

Arlanza/GVVS
Empress of England/GVSV
List of OBS ships 1963

[david.hopcroft]

This is a small extract from the October 1963 'Dicky Dappel' and should jog a few memories.

David
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[freddythefrog]

Roger, Kris, and David
Many thanks the callsign info, certainly jogs the memory, new there was some V's and some S's in them, obviously in wrong places. cheers ftf

[K urgess]

This is a small extract from the October 1963 'Dicky Dappel' and should jog a few memories.

David
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Bankline gets everywhere. [=P]

[Tai Pan]

Long time since I heard "DickyDappel"--memories

[Graham P Powell]

Rang ex GKA keyboard wizard and call sign expert John Lamb last night
and he says GVSV was Empress of England.

[tedc]

Like many others, in 1955, I did my first 6 months in Cunard (IMR usually seemed to put their newbies there!) and was assigned to "Franconia!.

This was a RMS, which I didn't understand at the time, but I later figured out that we were really postmen in disguise.

The Captain was RNR (or maybe RNVR) so we got to fly the Blue Ensign!!

The two other R/Os were Purdom Smith & Frank Loechert - the latter of which had an amazing ability to read morse through so much static that I couldn't even tell that there was any morse there!!!

We did 1 routine passenger trip Southampton to Quebec then a couple to Halifax as the St Lawrence did its annual freeze over.

For the last few trips we were chartered to carry American (or were they Canadian) troops (and their wives,etc, to the continent )-

As I recall the troops went one one passage whilst the wives, etc, went on a different ship - to discourage mingling. I suppose!
It seemed to have a different effect when the wives were all aboard without their loved ones!

Good learning environment - no restrictions on mixing with passengers - etc.

Some of these Junior R/Os were lucky enough to stay with Cunard for the rest of their careers - but I had to go off to join a Shell tanker when my 6 months was up.
Don't know if it meant I didn't fit - or whther I was too highly qualified (1st PMG).

Anyway my pal Norman Griffin (also ex Hull Tech) followed me onto the Franconia & went on to become 1st R/O of QE1.

[=P]

[7woodlane]

Born Liverpool. Lived Liverpool. Joined MIMC Liverpool, immediate train ticket to Southampton. ( weird sense of humour). still nice ships from southampton. sent to British rail ferry. soton/jersey Nov.Dec.Jan, nice weather. start of the rot betwix me and GTZM. thank the lord for GTZB.

MIMCo's sense of humour ( are you sure that is what it was ?). Living near Hull my first vsl was down in London, the Royal Docks. The telegram summoned me to report East Ham at some date at 0900. I'm 200 miles away for god's sake. You cannot get anywhere at 0900 from Hull, unless you leave the night before. Anyway I obeyed, and checked into East Ham at 0900 on the due day. This is how it was then. Chief R/O on the Mooltan looked at me and said "can you touch type" --- me --- touch type. He might as well have asked me if I had climbed the Matterhorn on a Lambretta. It got worse but more of that another day.

[K urgess]

MIMCo's sense of humour ( are you sure that is what it was ?). Living near Hull my first vsl was down in London, the Royal Docks. The telegram summoned me to report East Ham at some date at 0900. I'm 200 miles away for god's sake. You cannot get anywhere at 0900 from Hull, unless you leave the night before. Anyway I obeyed, and checked into East Ham at 0900 on the due day. This is how it was then. Chief R/O on the Mooltan looked at me and said "can you touch type" --- me --- touch type. He might as well have asked me if I had climbed the Matterhorn on a Lambretta. It got worse but more of that another day.

Don't find that strange at all.
Lived in Hull. Joined Mimco in Hull. Spent the first month on leave in Hull 'cos of the Seaman's strike in '66.
Ordered to East Ham to be there as office opens as soon as the strike ended.
To join the Bendoran as junior.
Travelled on last train from Hull in company of a RN CPO who showed me the ropes for a night in London at the Union Jack Club and other points south. (Thumb)
Joined the Baron Wemyss as junior. Senior quit when he found out who the old man was. Took two days to get another one.

[ian fears]

1969 after soton college joined mimco 1st ship ferry dragon for 2 months, route southampton lisbon with odd trip to le havre, cro harry loane from ireland nice bloke but we had to go straight to h16 watchkeeping so thrown in deep end on that, i used to do the evening [ 8 to 10? ] and midnight to 6 am watch harry thought i needed practise so i also did his 2 hour stint at times [ he was looking at cargo and checking bar not a bad trip but only 2 months after leave next to shells mighty medora cro ed may another good bloke very electronics minded we both did maintenance [ trying to get bridge engine control working never 100% though ] i did most if not all watches byself apart from the fact it was a tanker and no shore time it was ok til the master who was on the mactra which blew up joined , dreadful person , spent 5 months on her well over time but couldnt get off til thameshaven swore never go another tanker and didnt , often wonder what happened to harry and ed anyone know

[david.hopcroft]

Joined AEI in Liverpool, first orders report to a travel agent in London. My Chief was doing a tax year so we had to be in Rotterdam by 5th April. It was the Naess Sovereign in drydock. All went well for a while, but then he started to go 'walkabout'. How can you do that at sea on a tanker ?? Easy it seems. Still it was good practice for me.

David
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[john rice]

I joined Canberra/GBVC from college in September 1964 - HAM Jardine cro, Jim Meaney 1st ro, Mike Broughton 2nd ro, Frank Murphy jnr 2nd ro, John Haynes 3rd ro, Hugh Larkin jnr 3rd ro, Ian Macey 4th ro and me, John Rice jnr 4th ro. Stayed with Canberra until 1967 when I had my first trip on my own with Trident Tankers - the Orama. Salaams to all = John Rice +

[GraemeD]

Hi,
I was a Cunard Sponsored Raido cadet in 1976 at Fleetwood Nautical College, I did not know there were many others, where did you do your college time ?
Graeme Deane

[janderso]

Ian. I did my 2nd Class and Radar at Leith, left in 1970. I'd started to go for a 1st but ran out of money, so wandered down to the Marconi depot and got a job. I don't remember many names from that day, but I lost a few months in 1968 after breaking my leg on an old BSA.
Charles, yup that radar would fit. The old coaster I was on was built in the late 40s. For some reason I thought it was called a Decca 45, but I'm probably thinking of the bloody records (Bill Haley/Beatles and such) I used to buy. Seem to remember the parabolic scanner was a double decker, transmitting and receiving.
I once sailed with a small japanese radar that used the same idea of putting the transmitter/receiver up in the scanner assembly (saves on waveguides, but changing a magnetron in bad weather was a bit of a no no unless you want to do an Ellen Macarthur up the mast).

That would be a double-cheese antenna ,no TR cell required and a very short waveguide rgds J

[roythwa]

Funny thing I always knew I was joining Marconi . Off to the quacks and got stuck full of needles this was 1956 then I got mail to join Esso Oxford then high out of the water at Southampton. First voyage was an SOS from the Esso Chatham in the Bay of Biscay she had blown her sides out and we could see right through her. Escorted her to Gib through incredibly calm waters never seen the Bay so calm. Last year found out what happened to her but have failed to located the Junior who trained with me. Then sent to Immingham to join the MV Broompark a Scottish Denholm general cargo boat many good memories there. After that wanted to further my electronics skills so did some training during my leave. Then I went onto the Limerick and I came across a Decca Radar a little box on the bulkhead everything inside including the klystron. One day the Magnetron **** itself there was one in the kit so it was soon going again. Having had two trips to Australia I decided to join AWA that was for a two year stint and I imagined that that I would be coming back to Marconi after. Saw the impending doom of the Aussie MN also got hooked whilst on the coast.

[andrewwalker1234]

Went to Leith in the early 70 for 2 years now the spend a week to do the ticket and they are mostly stewardess what is the world comming.

[w.craig]

Completed 2nd PMG at Glasgow Wirless College & joined MIMCo 1964. Sent to E. Ham depot & joined Royal Mail ship Drina, call sign MAIL, only one I can remember. 2 trips to Monty & B.A. Then joined Crystal Cube as 2nd R/O to a some what excentric Ch. R/O fom Ireland. Went to Poland in the dead of winter then onto west indies where she broke down, waited 6 weeks for spares, back to U.K. but had to limp into Falmouth with more engine trouble took the opportunity to pay off at that point as I had by then completed my 6 months sea time.

[Shipbuilder]

My first trip was aboard the old RHODESIA STAR (GUAX) in the early 60's. Ship horribly uncomfortable and lousy food, but still considerably more comfortable than Wray Castle where I had trained. I always had the greatest respect and liking for that old C3 (Ex Escort carrier HMS PREMIER on the Russian convoys).

Unfortunately, a small number of my fellow officers left no stone unturned in their efforts (successful) in making life miserable for me!

Best time came after Newcastle NSW when hanging over rail at about 2100, one of the cooks came up (had a skinful) demanding where was officer "X". In all innocence I told him he was in 2nd mate's cabin. "Good" he shouts "cos I' goin' to smash 'is 'ead in!" He stormed off into the accommodation whilst I remained on deck awaiting the welcome sounds of the offending "ead gettin' smashed in!" Lots of shouting and screaming, bunch of my antagonists and cook emerge on deck - captain called. Captain tells him to "get below." Cook yells "Yer all the same, you lot, hidin' behind yer gold braid!" Captain (tough Aussie) rips jacket off and advances on cook shouting "OK, come, bare fists, man to man - no gold braid!" Cook rushes off below and never reapppears. Remains subdued for rest of voyage. Me - heavan be praised - sent to coventry by my antagonists. Enjoyed a glorious week where none of them would speak to me. But they were a lily-livered bunch and couldn't stand the strain and were at their full bullying strength again within ten days or so. But the incident did lift my spirits!

Next ship - JOYA MCCANCE.

Wonderful captain (Neal) excellent officers, excellent crew. If it hadn't been for JOYA MCCANCE, I would have quit the sea!

Bob

[sparky1]

Hi, I too was started at MIMCO Liverpool office in June 72, I'd had to sign a 3 year contract with them after failing the MRGC theory exam and having to back class 1 term, mimco lent me £60 so I could continue. Anyway, I was lent out to East Ham to Join the same Bendearg for a 3 month trip out, hambursg, penang, sweatenham (port klang now) singapore, bangkok, hong knog, manila, borneo, singapore then Liverpool. Then just like yourself and again after only 3 months, it was 1 week off then took passage on Booth line's Cuthbert joining in New York for 14 months, up and down the east coast, w Indies and Amazon, back to uk to do the radar exam, then quick trips with common bros (Daghestan) then Stevie Clarks VLCC (very little coal carrier!!) Avonmouth/Rotterdam. Many happy days, I always wanted to do a bank trip, out to the south seas, that was something my grandfather did in the twenties. Happy days
cheers
David

[sparky1]

you forgot to say you were at Fleetwood

[Treborvfr]

I left Fleetwood in 1974 and walked straight into a job with BP.

First trip was just over 6 months on a VLCC, British Pride, GRIQ, with SRO Bob Lane.
It was a pretty uneventful 6 months, taking in two trips to the Gulf and back, with a guarantee dry dock in Brest in the middle.

What did suprise me was the number of BP ships in those days, with over 120 in the fleet never a day went by when we couldn't contact another BP ship on VHF going the other way. A sharp contrast to 1986 when I left BP, there was only 26 ships in the fleet and you could very rarely raise one one a GTZX call on 500kHz for days, if not weeks, on end!

Somebody mentioned Radio cadets earlier. I was probably one of the first, particularly with BP, I was half way through my radar course at Fleetwood when I applied to join them. They, along with other companies, had just started the cadet scheme and took me on as a cadet for the last 3 months of the radar course. It was a very nice way to finish college, with some money in my pocket for a change.

Bob