Esso York

Bob S
23rd June 2005, 13:56
Esso Petroleumís ESSO YORK inward bound at Tilbury on the 20th September 1969.
Built 1955 and 17570 tons gross.

kjweetman
21st January 2007, 10:41
Nothing since 2004. I have just registered.

My father, Owen Weetman was one of the Chief Engineers in the 1970's. He oversaw the drydocking of the ship's transormation to a lightening vessel. I recall it being the first in the fleet.

The York was then used in the NW European area.

My father died on board in 1977 in Antwerp aged 42. Second at the time was Bob Joblin and I recall Ernest Baird was the Electrician. Dave Gardner had been second relieving chief for a number of years. My father used to refer to the Old Man as "Z Victor One"

Trevor George
4th April 2007, 12:52
Hi Chaps,
I did my second trip to sea on the York in 1978, That was the time where she was involved with the Cristos Bitas incident. I remember Ernie Baird and Bob Joblin, when I was on her, Bruce Gudge 'sludge' was the second engineer and 'Bob job' was Junior second.

ruud
4th April 2007, 13:56
Ahoy,
Here seen the YORK early seventies in Rotterdam area.
http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/4628/essoyork1955mediumyi6.th.jpg (http://img175.imageshack.us/my.php?image=essoyork1955mediumyi6.jpg)
Courtesy/©J.A.Idelerer

Note: You see Nev? That's what I meant to say in the comments of those 6 tugs.(Thumb) (Jester)

kjweetman
23rd July 2007, 21:51
My mother received the sad news last week that Bob died 14th July 2007 aged 76. He had contracted asbestosis and was ill for a short period prior to his death. Bob was a great friend to my father.

Trevor George
24th July 2007, 13:02
Hi Kevan,
Sorry to hear of Bob's passing away. The one thing i remember about Bob he was a friendly bloke, I was traineer mechanic at the time and my second trip to sea. He was, what I would refer to as the "old school" of engineers, Did he ever keep in touch with Bruce "Sludge" the second engineer?

Larry Dev
4th August 2007, 20:10
Kevin.
I was on the Esso York on two ocassions in 1974 , your dad was C/E at the time or part of the time I was there. The Old man was Donovan he lived in Salisbury I think, the mate was Vic Humble the sparkie was from the North East had been on there for years, chief steward Millie Webb from Southend. I cannot remember many other names, perhaps they will come to me just after I finish this post, that usually happens.
Did hear that your dad died onboard (sadly) I seem to remember it was during boat drill, I maybe wrong with that statement, but it seems to ring a bell with me.

kjweetman
7th August 2007, 20:18
Kevin.
I was on the Esso York on two ocassions in 1974 , your dad was C/E at the time or part of the time I was there. The Old man was Donovan he lived in Salisbury I think, the mate was Vic Humble the sparkie was from the North East had been on there for years, chief steward Millie Webb from Southend. I cannot remember many other names, perhaps they will come to me just after I finish this post, that usually happens.
Did hear that your dad died onboard (sadly) I seem to remember it was during boat drill, I maybe wrong with that statement, but it seems to ring a bell with me.

Bob Joblin came home and told us that my dad had died after starting a lifeboat engine. So I think your memory serves you well. Nice to hear from you, thanks for the post.

Grumpy One
11th November 2007, 17:03
I sailed loads of times in Esso York - 2nd Officer and Chief Officer - My next to favourite ship! I truly admiored Captain Vic Donovan who taught me a lot. Had the pleasure of crossing paths with Owie Weetman very many times, plus Bob Joblin (Bob'a'Job) and Ernie Baird (His last ship was Esso Severn when I was Master there).
Very sorry to hear of Bob's demise - You're right - he was a ncie man and a good engineer.

Webby
4th April 2008, 22:35
I as reseaching somethng on Esso and found the entires on Esso York
My father was Pip Webb the Chief Steward/Purser on the Esso York that you refer about. He's now 83 physically he fairly fit but his mind has completely gone and is looked after during the day by my mother.
He worked for Esso for a great number of years and was on several of the ships but I know from what he has said that the York and Glasgow were the happiest of times he had whilst at sea.
I wil ask my mother if she remembers any other members of staff.
Best wishes

harvey19a
14th April 2008, 11:11
A little bit of humour concerning the York.......

As you all know, she was many years on the coast, and all onboard were very used to daily papers, Corrie at 7.30 three times a week, etc etc., and no desire to change that.

The York appeared alongside in Fawley one day (82 perhaps) and I chanced upon Esso's Agency Manager, Len Belcher, just as he walked away from her gangway. He looked a little stressed, and told me he might need to hire a bus, as 22 crew members had asked to see a doctor!! I enquired if there was an epidemic on board - only for him to reply "Oh no - but they've just got orders for Las Palmas".........

KenLin39
3rd May 2008, 14:19
Hi. A superb photo of the Esso York of 1955 via the link below. Ken.

http://www.shipspotting.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=632512

trevor.lawrence
13th September 2008, 19:53
I also sailed on the Esso York with Wheetman c/eng,bob a job and Bruce Gudge did 12 hour nights cleaning the boilers and a few beers after, in 1975 I had to Greewich Seamans Hospital for knee operation and Bob a Job was in recovering from a similar operation. att picture Esso York lightering Esso Scotia

trucker
13th October 2008, 16:19
reading the esso york thread.i noticed the cristos bitas was mentioned.could that be the tanker that ran aground off the irish coast and the esso york ,made a few trips ,lightening her.

Trevor George
17th October 2008, 13:01
Hi Trucker,

Yes that is true, If my memory serves me well it was October 1978, I was a PO Mechanic onboard at the time. We did slavage a small amout of cargo, and we all received salvage money.
The British Dragoon went alongside after we had finished, and salvaged more cargo than the Good old Esso York!

Regards
Trevor

trucker
19th October 2008, 16:20
trevor, did you have a brother ,jimmy george,a/b promoted c.p.o. .hope you don,t mind me asking.

eriskay
19th October 2008, 18:22
A cousin, Billy McCormick, saild on the Esso York, He joined her at North Shields as 2nd Mate on 9th January 1964 and left her Baltimore, Maryland, on 16th June 1964. He joined Esso as JOS at 16 years of age in 1951, rose through the ranks from there, attaining his Master F.G. in 1963. Came ashore in 1968 to take up appointment as Marine Superintendent. Last ship was Esso Durham, his second period of service on this vessel as Mate. The old 'York' went to Bombay for breaking in 1981. Well retired now.

Do any Esso men remember Hector Mac Lellan, who also originated from the Western Isles like Billy, and who also worked his way up from deck to Master on Esso ships before taking shore employment in 1977? In his final days with Esso, Hector sailed Master on the new breed of large VLCCs, e.g. Cambria, Northumbria, Scotia, Ulidia.

Trevor George
21st October 2008, 14:13
trevor, did you have a brother ,jimmy george,a/b promoted c.p.o. .hope you don,t mind me asking.


Of course I don't mind! Jimmy was not my brother, but we did meet up, I think on the Cardiff. We had a laugh about having the same surname, as people seemed to think we was related. I recall he was a Geordie lad?

Trevor
(Jester)

trucker
21st October 2008, 17:09
thanks for clearing that up,trevor.as i am sure [although its a few year a go now ]most lads i sailed with thought you and jimmy were related.(Thumb)

Trevor George
21st October 2008, 20:57
thanks for clearing that up,trevor.as i am sure [although its a few year a go now ]most lads i sailed with thought you and jimmy were related.(Thumb)

Hi Trucker,
Who were the lads you served with? As I was down the engine room, I remember some deck chaps on deck but I cant think of their names. So how about the middle ground? Pumpmen! Do you remember Alan Hicks? a small bloke the same height as me 5 feet b****r all! He was a laugh, I sailed with Allan on the Hernia and Cardiff.
Do you remember a PO Mech called Keith Jolley? We got in touch by a work connection 3 years ago, long after I left Esso, In September I went to see him in France where he now lives. Keep it coming,

Did you ever sail with me?

(Thumb)

Trevor
(Thumb)

Trevor

trucker
21st October 2008, 22:10
definatetly sailed with alan hicks. pumpmen; any names familiar,ian campbell,gus mc millen[who sadly died on the esso fawley].,rainbow,[can,t think of his name at the moment].my mind has went totally blank.but remember john brown.

Trevor George
22nd October 2008, 12:53
Familiar names
Was Ian Cambell a Scots pumpmen who looked like Sean Connery? Gus Mc Millen how did he die, was he a pumpman also? I have heard the name of Rainbow and definatley John Brown, I sailed on the York with John.
Do you remember Phil Hopcroft from the Ilse of White?

Regards
Trevor

price
22nd October 2008, 14:39
Hello Trevor and Trucker;
I sailed with MacMillan on the Cheyenne in the late 1950s, a good crowd, good team and he was one of the best. I did meet him later when he was bosun of an Esso Tanker that visited Pembroke Refinery.

Bruce.

trucker
22nd October 2008, 17:14
trevor i think it was the esso miford haven gus died on as i was on the esso fawley at the time.[as you get older the old grey matter plays up].the incident happend while gus was inspecting the drain plugs on the pump chambers,in the pumproom.i think some other ships were having problems with the plug threads stripping.he was a big lad.although the ship was loaded the chambers were supposed to be empty.he had to take off his e.l.s.a set to get down into the bilges to inspect the plugs.he put a spanner on one plug and it shot out.the chamber was full of petrol.which poured into the bilges.he couldn,t get to his e.l.s.a set in time ,before he was overcome by fumes.although there was an a/b at the top of the pumproom by the time the rescue party reached gus, it was too late.i sailed with gus on the esso humber he was a great guy.a good friend of ian [007]campbell.
reading the cristos bitas thread i noticed one name i know,relieved him a couple of times ,rod willet.i think he left on medical grounds ,back trouble.

quietman
22nd October 2008, 17:32
Of course I don't mind! Jimmy was not my brother, but we did meet up, I think on the Cardiff. We had a laugh about having the same surname, as people seemed to think we was related. I recall he was a Geordie lad?

Trevor
(Jester)

Yes Jimmy was from Newcastle. I was also on the Cardiff with him and once travelled back to Sunderland with him in his car when we signed off together.

rodney willett
4th November 2008, 21:10
Hi Trucker
I remember Gus well I was on leave when he died and was sent to join after it happend spent a couple of happy years on the Fawley and Millford Haven but as you said got paid off on medical grounds with back trouble still a problem but get by. Good to see so many names that we can still remember good times. Rod

trucker
5th November 2008, 12:43
hi rod, remember s--t in the the bucket wilson, on the clyde.c/m.wouldnt leave the deck while topping off.so he had a crap in a bucket in the tank cleaning gear locker.crew would never let him forget it.can,t understand why trevor did not reply to post on gus.

rodney willett
5th November 2008, 22:33
Hi Trucker
Does bring back memories have some photo,s of fancy dress party christmas on the either Fawley or Milford haven must have been about 1987 could have been earlier not sure Ian was pump man, who was rainbow that name rings a bell.

trucker
6th November 2008, 08:32
rainbow was pumpman.last time i seen him was on the fife,when she was in the tyne converting for north sea.ian was pumpman,had a b/b in blackpool sandra [ his wife ran it while he was at sea].shortly after ian left the sea,they sold up,and moved back up to scotland.we knew the writing was on the wall once they started cutting back on crews,at least i left with afew bob.remember f.m.o gangs,shotblast every where.engineers doing their nuts as the shotblast got into the bearings on the winches
(Jester)

Trevor George
10th November 2008, 12:57
Hi Rodney,
I pressume you was on the York at the time of the Cristos Bitas? was you an AB? Do you remeber me and Geoff Burell a geordie Mechanic?

Regards
Trevor

quietman
13th November 2008, 09:45
Any one remenber Tannoy Tyrell the pumpman so called because of his loud voice?

Trevor George
13th November 2008, 12:50
Tannoy!!

Hi Quietman,
I remember Tannoy, what happened to him? He liked his groceries!!

Trevor

quietman
15th November 2008, 09:14
Tannoy!!

Hi Quietman,
I remember Tannoy, what happened to him? He liked his groceries!!

Trevor

Can't really say what happened to him as I decided tankers weren't for me and went back on the pool and general cargo ships. But you were definatly right about the groceries.

ROBERT GIBSON
6th December 2008, 18:56
Nothing since 2004. I have just registered.

My father, Owen Weetman was one of the Chief Engineers in the 1970's. He oversaw the drydocking of the ship's transormation to a lightening vessel. I recall it being the first in the fleet.

The York was then used in the NW European area.

My father died on board in 1977 in Antwerp aged 42. Second at the time was Bob Joblin and I recall Ernest Baird was the Electrician. Dave Gardner had been second relieving chief for a number of years. My father used to refer to the Old Man as "Z Victor One"

Hi Kevin
I sailed in the Esso York with Owen, Jun to Sept 71, he was a fine man. He was instrumental in getting me interested in taking my tickets. His reasoning being, "what have you got to loose you live in South Shields anyway so at worst even if you fail it will be 3 month paid leave". I did get a chief ticket so I have to thank him for that. "Bob a job" was J/2 I am sorry to hear of his death.
We had a good trip spending a lot of the time anchored off Torquay along with the Shell tanker Drupa waiting to lighter the VLCC's, I believe at one time the Yorks crew under the cover of darkness had painted a smile on the bow of the Drupa, so see now had the habit anchoring way out. The tourist boats didn't come to close either, to shy.
We also had a spell on the shuttle run (no not Amoy Bay to Aruba as imortalised in the Esso calypso) but Rotterdam to Purfleet, I think we did 12 shuttles
I also remember a panic among most of the hands when we were asked to check the air conditioning (what about missing Corination St???),we went to Marsa el Brega in Libia.
I also remember Owen issuing a new movement book at Purfleet, we were going to the Humber take 20,000t of oil off a grounded tanker. However as we cleared the Thames the tanker was refloated with assistance of tugs so it was back to Rotterdam, and a deferal of the Cleadon Village mansions.
Owen wanted me to go back the next trip, but I prefered Deepsea, the coast was ok in the summer but not the winter.
Three days after getting home I walked in to the Mermaids Tale and there was half the Yorks crew, she was docked at the Esso terminal at North Shields.
In Esso I sailed on the Oxford ; Portsmouth ; York ; Westminster ; Northumbria ; Ulidia and Northumbria again, the when to containerships

Regards

Bob

kjweetman
21st December 2008, 20:16
Nice to hear the tales Bob. I have been away a lot this year, so have not visited the site at all, then received a Christmas message today and logged on.

My mother has been in touch with Freida, Bob Joblins' wife. He died of asbestosis apparently. She also visited South Shields in May and we went back to where we used to live, behind the Grey Hen and she met up with Winnie Mavin, whose husband is Bill Mavin, another chief with Esso.

Nice to hear a pleasant tale of my dad.

Kevan

red devil
29th December 2008, 20:00
Was it the Esso York which completely demolished a good part of the wooden West jetty at Immingham in the late 70's or early 80's?

trucker
11th January 2009, 11:21
Was it the Esso York which completely demolished a good part of the wooden West jetty at Immingham in the late 70's or early 80's?

May well have been the Esso Severn.

callpor
18th January 2009, 13:57
Was it the Esso York which completely demolished a good part of the wooden West jetty at Immingham in the late 70's or early 80's?

Definately was the Esso York. Remeber the incident well - latish 1970's. Regds

Chris Allport

Joemc
31st May 2009, 19:04
hi all, i did one trip on the york in 1977 i think but cant remember any names although a cockney called keith sticks in my mind, great sense of humour and really nice bloke, as were all the crew.

thanks
Joe

Jay Wye
9th August 2009, 21:03
The Esso York kissed another Jetty, one just down river from Esso Purfleet, in December 1974. Coming in from the Sunk, the main gearing off the turbine, or something like that, ( I was 1OD), suffered a failure and we were subsequently towed up to Purfleet by four tugs.
When swinging off the previously mentioned jetty, the flood tide took over, and we put a hole in the port quarter. The jetty did not look too good, but hey, could the jetty operators run!
We got Xmas, tied up at the riverberth at Tilbury.
And after thee weeks, I went on leave!
John Y

Geoff Watson
5th October 2009, 12:38
Nothing since 2004. I have just registered.

My father, Owen Weetman was one of the Chief Engineers in the 1970's. He oversaw the drydocking of the ship's transormation to a lightening vessel. I recall it being the first in the fleet.

The York was then used in the NW European area.

My father died on board in 1977 in Antwerp aged 42. Second at the time was Bob Joblin and I recall Ernest Baird was the Electrician. Dave Gardner had been second relieving chief for a number of years. My father used to refer to the Old Man as "Z Victor One"

Hi Kevin
I sailed with your dad many times on the York, at the time I was 3rd Eng. I recall on one occasion I was entrusted by him to escort your Mum to the train in Milford after she had done a trip. I wonder if she remembers?

billyboy
5th October 2009, 12:45
Thats what I like about this site. People meeting up on the net. Pure nostalgia

stewarthird
10th October 2009, 21:16
Hi Chaps,
I did my second trip to sea on the York in 1978, That was the time where she was involved with the Cristos Bitas incident. I remember Ernie Baird and Bob Joblin, when I was on her, Bruce Gudge 'sludge' was the second engineer and 'Bob job' was Junior second.

Trevor, Its Stewart Hird here ,I was a Fireman on the York plus several other Esso vessels Hibernia , Purfleet .
Remember Bob a Job (RIP) , Tannoy Tyrell , he was on the Warickshire , John Brown .
Did 3 trips on the York and took her to India for scrapping .
Get back ASAP
Stewart

AJC
20th October 2009, 19:25
Nothing since 2004. I have just registered.

My father, Owen Weetman was one of the Chief Engineers in the 1970's. He oversaw the drydocking of the ship's transormation to a lightening vessel. I recall it being the first in the fleet.

The York was then used in the NW European area.

My father died on board in 1977 in Antwerp aged 42. Second at the time was Bob Joblin and I recall Ernest Baird was the Electrician. Dave Gardner had been second relieving chief for a number of years. My father used to refer to the Old Man as "Z Victor One"

Hi Kevan,
I remember your'e Dad!! he was great friends with my Dad, A lecky called Jim Chapman.
I stayed with you and your'e Mum for a short time when I was a cadet in South Shields, in Mitford Road!!
Hope this finds you well, regards to your Mum, Margie!
Alex Chapman!

AJC
20th October 2009, 19:33
Hi Trucker,
Who were the lads you served with? As I was down the engine room, I remember some deck chaps on deck but I cant think of their names. So how about the middle ground? Pumpmen! Do you remember Alan Hicks? a small bloke the same height as me 5 feet b****r all! He was a laugh, I sailed with Allan on the Hernia and Cardiff.
Do you remember a PO Mech called Keith Jolley? We got in touch by a work connection 3 years ago, long after I left Esso, In September I went to see him in France where he now lives. Keep it coming,

Did you ever sail with me?

(Thumb)

Trevor
(Thumb)

Trevor

Hi Trevor,
Alan Hicks!!.........The angry Ant??

Regards

Alex chapman

callpor
21st October 2009, 11:48
Hi Alex,

Remember you and your Dad from way back. If I recall, you joined us in Liverpool to stand-by the Severn building at Cammel Lairds? All seems a long time ago. With many other like minded Brits I moved to France when I retired from ExxonMobil in 2002. Les Storey and family live five minutes down the road from me? Tim Knowles and his wife called in on us Monday on their way south for a holiday on the Med. It's a small world.
Regards, Chris Allport

petem
28th October 2009, 20:56
I have just stumbled on this site and would not have thought so many memories of the York. I did my first trip as Junior on the York in '73 and (I think) I went back a couple more times as I remember Owen Weetman and Arthur Hutcheon as the Chief Engineers I sailed under as well as Bob Jobling, Bruce Goodge (who did my juniors watch for me on my 21st !) and Ernie Baird. It seems a lifetime ago now and I left in '76 to come ashore. Coincidentally I last saw the York in '78 at Peterhead delivering fuel oil to the power station where I was then working as a turbine engineer for GEC.

Happy days!

Pete Meads

Trevor George
30th October 2009, 10:02
Hi Trevor,
Alan Hicks!!.........The angry Ant??

Regards

Alex chapman

Hi Alex,
I presumed you sailed with Alan? I remember he was a fan of F1 motorsport, as I recall he used to go to Silverstone, which is 4 miles from where I live now. Do you know what happened to him?
Regards
Trevor

Trevor George
30th October 2009, 10:10
Trevor, Its Stewart Hird here ,I was a Fireman on the York plus several other Esso vessels Hibernia , Purfleet .
Remember Bob a Job (RIP) , Tannoy Tyrell , he was on the Warickshire , John Brown .
Did 3 trips on the York and took her to India for scrapping .
Get back ASAP
Stewart

Hi Stewart,
When was you on the York? I still think of those days, only the good times that is!
I'm so glad I went to sea, at the time when your on the ships you don't realise how you will look back and cherish the memories of the time and the people you sailed with. There were so many engineers I was on watch with who I really liked, unfortunatley I have not seen any of them on this website.

Kind Regards
Trevor (Diesel) I hated that bloody name!! (K)

pat lyons
25th May 2010, 22:41
Anyone out there who was on the York between September `64 and August `65 when we picked up the crew of the Golfo di Triest in the South China seas after she can
me of second best to a typhoon? Pat lyons.

AJC
11th October 2010, 13:10
Hi Alex,

Remember you and your Dad from way back. If I recall, you joined us in Liverpool to stand-by the Severn building at Cammel Lairds? All seems a long time ago. With many other like minded Brits I moved to France when I retired from ExxonMobil in 2002. Les Storey and family live five minutes down the road from me? Tim Knowles and his wife called in on us Monday on their way south for a holiday on the Med. It's a small world.
Regards, Chris Allport

Hi Chris, yep, the Severn in Cammel Lairds, happy days, Tony Greenwood, John Yule, Bob Ireland, Tommy Govenlock! etc... still kept in touch with Brian Martin, until his untimely death 3 years ago, met up with him in Chichester, 6 weeks before he died, Willie Henderson is confined to a wheelchair, after suffering a massive stroke!!!
I've just retired myself, ended up Chief on the Tugs in Leith, but enough was enough, moved down to Hertfordshire, and about to get married to Denise!!
give my regards to Tim if you see him again
All the best

Alex

AJC
11th October 2010, 13:14
definatetly sailed with alan hicks. pumpmen; any names familiar,ian campbell,gus mc millen[who sadly died on the esso fawley].,rainbow,[can,t think of his name at the moment].my mind has went totally blank.but remember john brown.

Hi Trucker,
Rainbow? I think was Robin Young!!!

Alex Chapman

AJC
11th October 2010, 13:49
I sailed loads of times in Esso York - 2nd Officer and Chief Officer - My next to favourite ship! I truly admiored Captain Vic Donovan who taught me a lot. Had the pleasure of crossing paths with Owie Weetman very many times, plus Bob Joblin (Bob'a'Job) and Ernie Baird (His last ship was Esso Severn when I was Master there).
Very sorry to hear of Bob's demise - You're right - he was a ncie man and a good engineer.

Hi Grumpy One,

Not Jack Aalen by any chance???

Regards

Alex Chapman

callpor
11th October 2010, 21:41
Hi Alex,
Welcome back.
I reckon that "grumpy one" has to be Nigel Thomas?
Good luck in your retirement.
Chris

stewarthird
19th November 2011, 18:36
Hi Stewart,
When was you on the York? I still think of those days, only the good times that is!
I'm so glad I went to sea, at the time when your on the ships you don't realise how you will look back and cherish the memories of the time and the people you sailed with. There were so many engineers I was on watch with who I really liked, unfortunatley I have not seen any of them on this website.

Kind Regards
Trevor (Diesel) I hated that bloody name!! (K)

Hi Trevor ,
Did my first trip with you on the Hibernia , my mate was Pit Pony - John Cain . George Duncan Chief etc - long time ago now mate :0(

Trevor George
17th January 2012, 12:41
Hi Trevor ,
Did my first trip with you on the Hibernia , my mate was Pit Pony - John Cain . George Duncan Chief etc - long time ago now mate :0(

Hi Stewart,
Did you pay off the Hibernia in Willamhaven with another Fireman? In 1979?

Regards
Trevor

stewarthird
9th April 2014, 11:33
Hi Stewart,
Did you pay off the Hibernia in Willamhaven with another Fireman? In 1979?

Regards
Trevor

Yes that's me - did about 3-4 trips on the York and ended up taking her to Scrap - 21st Birthday in Bombay (Thumb)
Fond memories of the York managed a few good runs - went on to ABP Dredgers in 83 then joined the Old Bill .
Great memories indeed . I remember Cliff Hopcroft `Hovercraft`a real Old Dog .....
(Sorry this is 5 yrs later )