Straits Steam Navigation

Juan de Basagoiti
16th October 2008, 09:26
Can anyone give me any info on this line? I believe it may have been the for-runner of P&O. I have been told that either my grandfather or G-grand father could have been an Engineer with this Co. sailing out of Singapore in the 1860's+. There's also stories that he may have sailed from either Belfast or Dublin on a Naval ship again in the earlier years. I'm still searching the family tree but have hit 'brick walls' since my side of the family seem to have come from the' black sheep ' side especially on the Basque side. Any info would be welcome. Thanks in advance, Juan

BillH
16th October 2008, 13:27
Can anyone give me any info on this line? I believe it may have been the for-runner of P&O. I have been told that either my grandfather or G-grand father could have been an Engineer with this Co. sailing out of Singapore in the 1860's+. There's also stories that he may have sailed from either Belfast or Dublin on a Naval ship again in the earlier years. I'm still searching the family tree but have hit 'brick walls' since my side of the family seem to have come from the' black sheep ' side especially on the Basque side. Any info would be welcome. Thanks in advance, Juan
You could be talking about the Straits Steamship Company of Singapore. If so this had no connection with P&O but had connections with Mansfield & Co. Singapore and Holts (Blue Funnel) of Liverpool. There may also have been a Swire connection later.
They primarily operated in the far east around the islands and also provided feeder services for the Blue Funnel Line.

BillH
16th October 2008, 14:01
You could be talking about the Straits Steamship Company of Singapore. If so this had no connection with P&O but had connections with Mansfield & Co. Singapore and Holts (Blue Funnel) of Liverpool. There may also have been a Swire connection later.
They primarily operated in the far east around the islands and also provided feeder services for the Blue Funnel Line.
From my records it appears that prior to 1890 the operation was undertaken by numerous vessels registered to the numerous partners under the 1/64th share system.
In 1890 T. Bogaardt, a partner in Mansfield & Co, registered the title Straits Steamship Co. Various vessels passed through their hands until Bogaardts sudden unexplained departure from the company in 1909.
Just before the outbreak of WW1, Richard Holt bought heavily into the Straits Steamship Company Ltd. The reason given was that Straits would obtain all “Blue Funnel” traffic to Bangkok and Borneo, whilst also ensuring all homeward traffic would be shipped in “Blue Funnel ships. Richard Holt intimated that as a condition of the purchase of Straits Steamship he should be able to appoint two new Directors onto their board. That idea however was met with total resistance and withdrawn. The final agreement became effective from October 1914. With an approximate 30% holding, the Ocean Steamship Company Ltd., became the largest single shareholder. Indirectly Holt gained control of around 17 vessels. With the cash injection, Straits ordered three new vessels. KAJANG, KAMUNING and KEPONG were planned for delivery during 1916 by Taikoo Dockyard & Engineering Company of Hong Kong Ltd. Although the Ocean Steamship Company Ltd., were the majority shareholders, Straits Steamship retained their own identity and management structure. However, in subsequent years Alfred Holt & Company’s marine engineers and design office were utilized to a greater degree in the formulation of the designs for new vessels. It also became common practice for new tonnage to be ordered in the name of Alfred Holt & Company. Construction was overseen by the Liverpool office, with vessel ownership being transferred upon satisfactory completion of a particular stage of work. MARUDU of 1924 is the only example I have found were the transfer was actually undertaken after launch, as opposed to prior to.

gdynia
16th October 2008, 14:33
Juan Please find

http://www.merchantnavyofficers.com/straits.html

Juan de Basagoiti
18th October 2008, 10:09
Many thanks for the info. I'm still sorting it all out, not having downloaded it all yet.....It seems that one of my forebears had part-share in a dock and godown but things went wrong and he did 2 yrs hard labour as a result. One day, I might get things sorted. Still stacks to do.
In the meantime, many thanks once again, Juan