Submarine Troubles in OZ

Doug H
23rd July 2005, 06:00
Front page story from today's "Weekend Australian":
Submarine 20 seconds from death
Cameron Stewart 23jul05
AN Australian submarine carrying 55 sailors was seconds from sinking to the bottom of the Indian Ocean following a catastrophic on-board flood off the coast of Perth. The near-tragedy has forced the navy to permanently reduce the diving depth of its fleet of six Collins-class submarines for safety reasons - a move that has weakened their military capability.

For complete article from today’s “Weekend Australian” click on the following: http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/printpage/0,5942,16019390,00.html (http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/printpage/0,5942,16019390,00.html)

trotterdotpom
23rd July 2005, 07:35
Sounds pretty scary. AB Bunting must be one of those "Bosun's Whistle-Blowers". OK.... I know it's a pipe.

The Collins Class submarines were originally so noisy, all the whales in the southern hemisphere swam around with sardines in their ears. Apparantly, that problem has been fixed now.

John T.

Doug Rogers
23rd July 2005, 08:01
Yes it may have been fixed but they are apparently still significantly noisier than their predecessors the Oberon Class.

Santos
23rd July 2005, 21:25
Now those boys, & girls, I now understand, are people I really take my hat off to, no matter what nationality.

To go down in one of those things takes a lot of courage. This incident proves just how dangerous submarining still is, and how dependant you are on the research, testing and building skills put into the building and maintainance of such a vessel.

I have a very deep admiration for all who not only go out to sea in such vessels but go under it as well.

Chris.

fred henderson
24th July 2005, 01:03
The boss of Vickers, Barrow once said to me "Anyone can build a boat that will go underwater, the skill is getting it to come back up again."

Fred

japottinger
28th July 2005, 22:36
Better if they stuck with the Scotts' built "O" class

Jan Hendrik
29th July 2005, 01:04
The safest submarine is located in Holbrook, refer thread Members Notice Board -- new forum.

Jan

Doug Rogers
29th July 2005, 02:36
The safest submarine is located in Holbrook, refer thread Members Notice Board -- new forum.

Jan

I think I tend to agree with you on that one!!, on the water is fine...under it..not for me!!. I take my hat of to those who do.

flyer682
29th July 2005, 08:37
I have yet to step foot on board a submarine and looking forward to doing so very soon on a visit to Sydney. My wife isn't so sure - she thinks she may find it a bit claustrophobic.
I agree with all the above - it must take a special type of person to go to sea in a submarine.

cboots
29th July 2005, 08:51
That sub in Holbrook is something. I was driving into the town one morning with my son, we were doing a pleasure trip to Canberra, and I see a submarine just off the high street, fine to port she was. ****, that must have been good beer last night I thought, but no, it is real. How the hell they got it there, let alone why they wanted it there in the first place, defeats me. But that's Australia for you mate, Texas of the antipodes.

Doug H
30th July 2005, 07:14
Further to my original posting on this subkect a week ago, today's local paper has a follow-uo front-pager today. For those who would like further information, the link is: http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/printpage/0,5942,16093368,00.html Doug H

Doug Rogers
30th July 2005, 08:54
Doesnt make pretty reading does it?, political decisions are sometimes very questionable. I think I will stick to Germany, Sweden and the UK for my diesel electric submarine designs and construction.

John Rogers
30th July 2005, 14:59
There is a web site that you can view and see the German Sub U-505 she has been completely refurbished and is on display in Chicago. Just Google U-505 and you will get a few hits.
John

Just found the website to the Chicago Sub U-505. Well worth a visit. I did not know she was so big.

http://www.msichicago.org/secret/

trotterdotpom
31st July 2005, 06:05
Doesnt make pretty reading does it?, political decisions are sometimes very questionable. I think I will stick to Germany, Sweden and the UK for my diesel electric submarine designs and construction.

Unfortunately, the Collins Class submarine IS a Swedish design.

John T.

Doug Rogers
31st July 2005, 07:30
Yes I know but heavily modified to Australian requirements, would have been better to go with one of their standard designs I think rather than make the number of changes they did. And thats to say nothing of the Oz designed control and battle systems that finally had to replaced by Raytheon systems.

J Boyde
18th December 2005, 10:11
Often thought that it would be nice to be in a sub, then I found you couldnt get the portholes open to let the air in.
Jim Boyde

billyboy
18th December 2005, 11:21
Guys, We should all thank God the lives of the crew were spared!!! I agree with previous posts that those sailors are a special breed. not for me!

lakercapt
18th December 2005, 16:52
There used to be a WWII submarine docked in Philadelphia next to a Spanish American war era warship.
Went on board for a visit and could not imagine people confined for months on it and being sane at the end of the trip.
Something like engineers with that infamous Ruston engine