Reardon Smith Line (merged threads)

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Jacktar1
2nd August 2005, 17:02
Wonder if there is anyone around who served with Smith's of Cardiff between 1948 and 1953 ???

R527835
11th September 2005, 07:26
I sailed on the Fresno City from 2nd January 1951 to 17th November 1951... Skipper was D Lloyd..

Reg Kear.

john martin
17th September 2005, 16:28
hi jack
i was on cornish city 1956-1958.mainly coal or soya from australia to japan.back and fore like a yo yp.guess which end i liked best.
have fun
john martin

John Rogers
17th September 2005, 19:18
Hi Reg about time you pulled up a chair and joined in.
John

Jim Stevens
29th November 2005, 19:13
Wonder if there is anyone around who served with Smith's of Cardiff between 1948 and 1953 ???

I was on the INDIAN CITY in July 1952.

Hull- New York-Cardiff -Muscat-Bahrein-Basrah-Takamatsu (Japan) - Vancouver-Tacoma - Bombay - Lobito - Avonmouth.
Have photo if needed. New member so I have not had time to post ships yet.
Regards
Jim Stevens

kag
24th December 2005, 21:16
Hi

Anyone who have a picture of the vessel Fresno City ?
(my wifes brother David, who lived in Sunderland, sailed on that ship)

lamptrimmer
24th December 2005, 23:01
Hi Kag
I think Sir William Reardon Smith had three ships named FRESNO CITY One was a war loss in 1943. the next was in their ownership from 1946-1964
I sailed on this ship in 1963.The last one to bear that name was a Cardiff Class bulker owned 1970 -early '80s
Have a Merry Festive season Regards Lamptrimmer

kag
25th December 2005, 15:11
David sailed on Fresno City 1962 or 1963

Grantham Little (Sandy)
3rd February 2006, 13:20
My father (same name as I but not Sandy) sailed as a engineer on the Indian City circa 1925 - 1930 The ship went through a typhoon in the Indian Ocean and was considerably damaged. This vessel is unlikly to be the same one is t??

Regards
Sandy






I was on the INDIAN CITY in July 1952.

Hull- New York-Cardiff -Muscat-Bahrein-Basrah-Takamatsu (Japan) - Vancouver-Tacoma - Bombay - Lobito - Avonmouth.
Have photo if needed. New member so I have not had time to post ships yet.
Regards
Jim Stevens

pierhead jumper
4th February 2006, 19:31
Hi,Kag. There is a picture of the Fresno City of1945,ex.Empire Singapore. in"Travels of the Tramps"vol2.by Norman L. Middlemiss.Sorry Lamptrimmer but Smiths had 4 of that name.The first was sunk in 1940 by the Admiral Scheer. Pierhead jumper.

dom
15th February 2006, 11:45
Wonder if there is anyone around who served with Smith's of Cardiff between 1948 and 1953 ???
madras city jan.54 west africa tour joined her in leith.capt.cox.:i want one plate, per man ,per day, chipped.he's still waiting.came up to charlie browns and blue post's looking for us,we were in prospect down at wapping

ruud
21st June 2006, 07:38
Hi

Anyone who have a picture of the vessel Fresno City ?
(my wifes brother David, who lived in Sunderland, sailed on that ship)
Ahoy kag,
Is this the Fresno UR looking for?[1970]

john trotter
4th November 2006, 19:52
hi i sailed reardon smith of cardiff in 1963 . and would like to find info on ship houston city.

R58484956
5th November 2006, 11:39
Houston City. 7278 tons built 1942 by Wm Doxford & Sons Sunderland.
428.8 x 56.5 x 35.5. 3 Cyl diesel by Doxfords. DF ESD. Code flags GIFY. registered Bideford UK British flag. Owned by Reardon Smith Line.

theaskew
5th November 2006, 16:34
Hi. I joined the M V Great City in Hull on the 21-3-60 paid off 23-9-60
in Sunderland.Voyage Australia, New Zealand etc.
Regards Artie

john trotter
5th November 2006, 21:58
the houston city i was one built in 1963 by doxfords for the readon smith line

Janner100
30th March 2007, 06:42
Thought this should be here to commemorate a fine shipping company.

cymruman
30th March 2007, 07:05
Couldn't agree more, are there any more from Smiths out there.
When were you there Janner? I am sure you were a Junior Engineer on one ship I was on but I can't remember which one, they were good days now sadly gone.

price
30th March 2007, 20:30
I sailed as AB. on the 'Atlantic City' for nearly 12 months 1957/8. She was probably one of the happiest ships that I had the good fortune to sail on in more than 20 years at sea. I was sent from Cardiff to join the ship in Dublin, most the deck crew were from Dublin, they were a good crowd, very few changes while I was there, even today I can still remember most of their names.
Captain Danny Lloyd was the master for the first couple of voyages, a very happy and sociable man, who was replaced by Captain Passmore who, although he was a fair man, kept himself to himself. The Mate was George Ellerby, a better mate I have yet to work with, a real character.
The Ch. Eng. was a red bearded Australian and the 2nd. was a geordie whose name I think was Jacky Chatten, another character.
The ship was built by Doxfords in 1941 a basic but trim little vessel which still holds happy memories for me.
Cheers Bruce

cymruman
31st March 2007, 07:47
You were there a wee bit before me, I served my time with them in 69 and spent the early seventies with them. My first captain was George Ellerby ( See my photo of "Sara Lupe" ex Cardiff City) and I sailed with Jacky Chatten (Extra 2nd engineer)on the Indian City for a month or two. Jack was married to a Japanese lady so the "Indian" suited him as she was carrying cars out of Japan to the States and coal back to Japan for what seemed an eternity (especially if you were on her). Jack was also quite badly burnt in a fire on one of the ships ( May have been the later Atlantic City to yours ) and was more or less given a job for life, certainly was a character.
I never met Capts Lloyd and Passmore but certainly remember the names.

R651400
31st March 2007, 12:31
Reardon Smith was probably one if not the only British tramp company to direct employ their own radio officers.
When I applied there were no vancances but have always kept an interest in the company since.

price
31st March 2007, 20:51
Sut mae Cymruman, I was sorry to hear about Jack Chattens' accident, as I said before he was quite a character, I can visualise him now holding court while standing up by the fore end of no. 4 hatch eating his lunch. We went to Yokohama at least once while I was on the ship, I don't remember him having a Japanese wife, but of course that was 50 years ago and memories fade. I am glad George Ellerby got his command, he deserved it, he always reminded me of the actor Jack Hawkins, he was good natured and a very capable officer. Hwyl fawr. Bruce.

ruud
5th April 2007, 15:44
Ahoy,
Maybe we/I can start to make a fleetlist[so everybody can put some photos here],but after the Easter holidays,while I'm too busy for the moment.
Will start with one you've sailed on,not the best shot but nevertheless something,I must dig out some old boxes to find some decent shots[Skyfotos] of that club, as I do have some.
ATLANTIC CITY[3]
Period in fleet:1941-1962
GT:5,133
Built:1941 by William Doxford & Sons Ltd.-Sunderland as ATLANTIC CITY for the Leeds Shipping Co.Ltd.
1962 to Achillet Cia.Nav S.A.-Lebanon renamed ACHILLET
1971[25-02] foundered off Rocky PointSouth Africa in position 19S & 10,19E,after her hull had fractured in heavy weather,during a voyage from Sfax-India.
Courtesy/©WSS Photo Library

price
5th April 2007, 18:07
Hello Ruud,
Thanks for posting the photo of the 'Atlantic City'. I didn't have any pictures of this vessel at all, so am grateful to you. Thanks to you, many gaps in the portfolio of photos of ships that I have sailed on have been filled.
Cheers Bruce.

tanker
5th April 2007, 20:25
You surely know that she had a sister the EASTERN CITY.probably you have see her????
Gp

robandbarbara
5th April 2007, 23:29
Cornish City. Taken off Ryde in September 1956.

Jacktar1
7th April 2007, 04:30
Have happy memories of Reardon Smiths, joined the Leeds City in 1948 for first trip as apprentice. Followed by the Orient City (Captain Dodman), the Atlantic City (Captain Wilson and Captain Dixon) and the Devon City (Captain Dodman). Retired from seagoing career in 1998, last 14 years served as Master with a Miami based cruise line.

ruud
7th April 2007, 08:04
Ahoy,
Here a fleetlist,starting with the early years,so if you've some piccies,just add them.
Name Period
City of Cardiff 1906-1912
Leeds City[1] 1908-1912
Bradford City[1] 1910-1917
Atlantic City[1] 1912-1929
Cornish City[1] 1912-1914
Devon City[1] 1913-1928
Eastern City[1] 1913-1916
Great City[1] 1914-1936
Jersey City[1] 1914-1917
Indian City[1] 1915-
Homer City[1] 1915-1929
Coniston Water 1916-1917
Fallodon 1917-
Escrick 1917-1918
Runswick 1917-1918
King City[1] 1917-1927
Orient City[1] 1917-1935
Norwich City 1917-1929
Leeds City[2] 1917-1925
Madras City[1] 1917-1933
Eastern City[2] 1917-1933
Bradford City[2] 1919-1929
Cornish City[2] 1919-1929
Bradboyne 1919-1920
Bradclyde 1919-1934
Bradavon 1919-1933
Watsness 1919-1927
Yarborough 1919-1924
Hurliness 1919-1924
Dungeness 1917-1929
Skegness[1] 1919-1923
Stromness 1919-
Buchaness[1] 1920-1924
Indian City[2] 1920-1935
Atlantic City[2] 1920-1936
Jersey City[2] 1920-1940
Paris City[1] 1920-1938
Alness 1920-1933
Oakwin-General Lukin 1920-1928
Royal City 1920-1928
Quebec City[1] 1920-1927
Siam City 1921-1927
Truro City 1921-1929
Union City 1921-1925
Cragness[1] 1921-1924
Vulcan City 1921-1933
Riol 1921-1927
Berengar-Gen.Botha 1931-1926
Meropi 1922-1929
Welsh City[1] 1922-1938
York City 1922-1937
General Smuts 1923-1934
Buchaness[2] 1924-1948
Cragness[2] 1924-1943
Skegness[2] 1924-1941
Leeds City[3] 1927-1951
Quebec City[2] 1927-1942
Braddovey 1927-1938
Bradesk 1927-1936
Bradfyne 1928-1940
King City[2] 1928-1940
East Lynn 1928-1940

ruud
7th April 2007, 08:08
Ahoy,
Part II:
Name: Period
Prince Rupert City[1] 1929-1941
Tacoma City[1] 1929-1941
Vernon City 1929-1943
Fresno City[1] 1929-1940
Victoria City[1] 1929-1940
Vancouver City[1] 1930-1939
Bradglen 1930-1941
Bradburn[2] 1930-1951
Devon City[2] 1933-1958
Houston City[1] 1934-1940
Fransisco 1935-
Salient 1935-
Bradford City[3] 1936-1941
Dallas City[1] 1936-1940
Cornish City[3] 1937-1943
Madras City[2] 1940-1958
Orient City[2] 1940-1958
Atlantic City[3] 1941-1962
Eastern City[3] 1941-1962
Barrdale 1941-1942
Barrgrove 1941-1947
Barrwhin 1941-1942
Fresno City[2] 1942-1943
Vancouver City[2] 1942-1963
Jersey City[3] 1942-1955
Houston City[2] 1942-1960
Bradford City[4] 1943-1962
Nw. Westminster City[2] 1943-1949
Tacoma City[2] 1943-1954
Dallas City[2] 1944-1956
Indian City[3] 1944-1957
Paris City[2] 1945-1954
Cornish City[4] 1946-1963
Fresno City[3] 1946-1964
Great City[2] 1946-1964
Homer City[2] 1946-1960
Queen City[2] 1950-1966
King City[3] 1950-1966
Victoria City[2] 1955-
Leeds City[4] 1955-1967
Nw. Westminster City[3] 1956-1970
Welsh City[2] 1956-1969
Devon City[3] 1960-1972
Orient City[3] 1960-1972
Cardiff City[1] 1962-1972
Houston City[3] 1963-1974
Australian City 1964-1974
Eastern City[4] 1965-1975
Atlantic City[4] 1967-1976
Indian City[4] 1967-1977
Welsh City[3] 1968-1977
Cornish City[5] 1969-1977
Vancouver City[3] 1970-1979
Prince Rupert City[2] 1970-1983
Victoria City[3] 1970-1983
Fresno City[4] 1970-1982
Nw.Westminster City[4] 1972-1983
Tacoma City[3] 1972-
Port Alberni City 1975-
Cardiff City[2] 1975-
Devon City[4] 1975-
Eastern City[5] 1976-1979
Orient City[4] 1977-1978
Welsh City[4] 1977-1983

ruud
7th April 2007, 08:15
Ahoy,
Vessels managed on behalf of T.M.M. S.A.-Mexico
Part III
Sara Lupe 1972-1980
Maria Elisa 1972-1980
Gela 1973-1979
Amparo 1974-
Elena Samia 1974-1981
Atlantic 1976-1979
Josefa 1979-1982
Bibi 1979-
Silvia Sofia 1979-
Olmeca 1982-
Yaqui 1982-
Lacandon 1983-
---
Managed of behalf of S.S.S. Ltd.-Vancouver
Skeena 1982

Pheasant Plucker
7th April 2007, 08:46
Just discovered this site by accident. Reardons was my first port of call on the site. I was with them from 1969-1974 and enjoyed every minute of it! The first ship I joined was the Eastern City in Oslo, I think, I'll have to look back in my discharge book. It was being converted to a car carrier with the drop-down decks and going on a long-term charter with a name change to the Chyoda.

I have some Reardon Smith Newsletters which belong to a mate of mine. They are about the same era. So if any body wants any info from them I'll be happy to provide.

I know Reardon Smith guys have a reunion around July August. I haven't been to one but I know they were very enjoyable.

ruud
10th April 2007, 08:09
Ahoy,
First of all, the "boss" himself as he made this all possible for this company.
The posted ORIENT CITY[3][1960?] was send to me by our member KenLin39,so all credits to him.
Hope the date of her is correct,if not, please feel free to add the exact date/details.
Name:ORIENT CITY[3]
In service 1960-1972
GT:10.300
Built in 1960 by William Doxford & Sons[Shipbuilders] Ltd.Sunderland as ORIENT CITY for Reardon Smith Line Ltd.
1972 to Sigalex Shipping Co.Ltd.-Cyprus and renamed ALEXANDER A.S.
1973 to Kie Hock Shipping[1971] Pte.Ltd.-Singapore and renamed TONG JIT
1977 to Tay Hock Gwan Enterprises Pte.-Singapore
1979 to Maldives Shipping Ltd.-Maldive Island,and renamed MALDIVE PROMOTOR.

ruud
10th April 2007, 08:56
Ahoy,
An oldie:
Name:BRADFYNE
In service 1928-1940
GT:4740
Built in 1928 by William Gray & Co.Ltd.-West Hartlepool as BRADFYNE for the Leeds Shipping Co.
On 22-11-1940 torpedoed and sunk by German submarine U100 South of Rockall, in position 55 04'N 12 15'W
Master and 39 members of crew lost,only 4 survivors.
1st photo from Feildon collection,2nd by WSS Photo Library.

Jacktar1
11th April 2007, 00:26
Started my sea career with Reardon Smiths, joined the 'Leeds City" in Victoria Dock, London, in March 1948. After discharging her grain cargo from Vancouver ship sailed for Falmouth, arriving at the anchorage on the Friday evening and scheduled to enter dry-dock on the Monday morning. On the Sunday evening due to a howling gale, the vessel was dragging her anchors and an attempt was made by Captain Hooper to reach the open sea. The attempt was unsuccessful, for by midnight the "Leeds City" had been driven by the wind on to the rocks in Great Mohunan Bay, near St. Anthony Head. Calls for assistance were sounded on the ships whistle and the alarm was first given by the principal lighthouse keeper on St. Anthony Lighthouse. Portscatho Coastguards fired a line on to the vessel and rocket life-saving apparatus was in operation. In relatively calm water between the ships side and shore a lifeboat was lowered at about 2:00am.
I had only been on board about two weeks and at the time, recalled the "Samtampa" disaster which happened only eleven months earlier in the Bristol Channel, a change of underwear was the order of the day !!!
The Leeds City (3) was very similar to the Bradfyne, 4,758 grt, built in 1927 by William Gray & Co. Ltd., West Hartlepool. Being a first tripper I was transferred to the "Orient City" which called at Falmouth for bunkers outward bound. Six months later I joined the Leeds City in Cardiff after all repairs had been completed. In 1951 she was sold to Lino Kaiun K.K., Japan and renamed Terushima Maru. On nthe 20th August 1952 she ran aground in River Hoogli, broke in two and became a total loss.

Jacktar1
11th April 2007, 01:10
Anyone around who served with Reardon Smiths 1947 to 1952 ? I am originally from Wales, left there in 1980 for the Bahamas and from 1984 to present time in Florida. Hoping to return back home this year.
Cheers

terval
21st May 2007, 09:54
Greetings one and all.I joineds RSL in 1951 as apprentice.
Dallas City Oct 51-Nov 52 paid off Aden sick. Capt Boucher
Jersey City Mar 53-Nov 53 Capt Dodds
Eastern City Jan54-Jul 54 Capt Harvey promoted 3/0 in voyage
Indian City Apr 55-Dec 55 Capt Justen
Queen City Sep 56- Oct 57 Capt Picton-Davies
Welsh City Dec 57-Nov 58 Capt Doughty promoted 2/0
Eastern City Sep 59-Feb 60.
Then I departed for pastures new spending 15 months ashore and returning to sea on the Garlinge of Constants, Aug 62 for a short trip then transferring to Denholms for the next 20 years.
Best regards,
Terry Thomas.
PS Brother Tony also RSL up to Master at about the same era.

theaskew
15th June 2007, 13:52
I joined the Mv Great City in Hull March 1960.
It was a 6 month trip.It was a happy ship.We
had a good crew all round.
Artie

Mo A
21st June 2007, 20:09
There's a teeny bit of info on Reardon Smith crew lists late 1970s and a pic of the Tacoma City during the one run I did on her from Redcar (steel coils) to west coast States and Vancouver and back with timber.
Only wish I'd stayed with them.
Brilliant crew and many happy memories.
Anyone know whereabouts of Merv Davies (Lecky)?
Mo
Redifon R/O

http://uk.geocities.com/merchantnavy@btinternet.com

tonyp
23rd June 2007, 18:55
Still trying to navigate my way around this site, I think I'm signed up to the "Smiths" thread now, so any old ship mates out there, would be interested to hear from you. Sailed with Smiths ( cadet to second mate) from '73 to '86 when they went bust. Got "arrested" by the Admiralty Marshall after anchoring in the Blackwater, Essex, on the Tacoma City. Funny thing is, i've been searching on & off for a few years on the net for somthing on Smiths, and have only recently found this site. Look forward to hearing fromanybody that picks this up. Tony Prosser.

Janner100
23rd June 2007, 19:54
If you are AC Prosser then you and I sailed together on the Victoria City. The officers compliment was as follows:
Captain Danny John
Mate Tim Lawson
2 Mate R Jammison
3 Mate Mike Gaffney
Radio Officer Fred Taylor
Chief Steward Duncan Yule
Chief Engineer Neil Widdas
2 Engineer Dave Ball
3 Engineer Kevin Dowdall
4 Engineer Dave Ricketts
J4 Engineer Norman Kitchen aka Lofty
J Engineer Joe Bowler
J Engineer Terry Bimson
Electrician AG Lee
Deck Cadet TD Lester
Deck Cadet AC Prosser
Deck Cadet KF Ballard

The round trip was from Antwerp steel out, timber home. Other ports included Long Beach, Portland, Vancouver, Nanaimo, Tahsis, Watson Island (Prince Rupert). The Victoria was (like most of Smiths ships) a great ship. I remember us engineers watching Sesame Street during Smoko. Duncan Yule and Neil Widdas left part voyage because for some reason they did not like Smiths (in Neil's case it was understandable).

Janner100
24th June 2007, 10:00
To jog a few more memories - this was the compliment leaving Govan on the maiden voyage for the Tacoma City.

Captain Danny John
Mate Dave Wooton
2 Mate Nigel Epps
3 Mate Haggis McAlmont
Radio Officer Fred Taylor
Chief Steward Bob Pierce
Chief Engineer Lenny Taylor
2 Engineer Jim Scott
3 Engineer Ian Jones
J3 Eingineer Davy Jennings
J4 Engineer Dave Ricketts
J4 Engineer Mick Seaman
Electrician Dave Grant
Eng Cadet Dave Symons
Eng Cadet RC Quaye
Deck Cadet Alex Skioch
Deck Cadet Doulas Hodgekiss
Deck Cadet D Morgan

Janner100
24th June 2007, 10:21
Does anyone know the whereabouts of Justin Scmidt, electrician. He was on the Tacoma City in October 1975. Lived in the Newport area as I remember (although that bit is hazy).

Wallyh
14th July 2007, 04:58
Still trying to navigate my way around this site, I think I'm signed up to the "Smiths" thread now, so any old ship mates out there, would be interested to hear from you. Sailed with Smiths ( cadet to second mate) from '73 to '86 when they went bust. Got "arrested" by the Admiralty Marshall after anchoring in the Blackwater, Essex, on the Tacoma City. Funny thing is, i've been searching on & off for a few years on the net for somthing on Smiths, and have only recently found this site. Look forward to hearing fromanybody that picks this up. Tony Prosser.

Hello Tony

Wally Hutchings here, did second mates together I think in the dim distant past. I am ex Smiths as well Cardiff, Atlantic, Cornish, vancouver, Wilkawa Victoria and Indian

How is it going still at sea? or made the big leap ashore, I migrated to NZ about 10 years ago, ended up on chemical tankers after Smiths and stayed on them until I came ashore 7 years ago, migrated to New Zealand ten years ago and am now working for a New Zealand oil company operating tankers fro them.

Wallyh

capital3
15th July 2007, 12:57
Ahoy,
Here a fleetlist,starting with the early years,so if you've some piccies,just add them.
Name Period
City of Cardiff 1906-1912
Leeds City[1] 1908-1912
Bradford City[1] 1910-1917
Atlantic City[1] 1912-1929
Cornish City[1] 1912-1914
Devon City[1] 1913-1928
Eastern City[1] 1913-1916
Great City[1] 1914-1936
Jersey City[1] 1914-1917
Indian City[1] 1915-
Homer City[1] 1915-1929
Coniston Water 1916-1917
Fallodon 1917-
Escrick 1917-1918
Runswick 1917-1918
King City[1] 1917-1927
Orient City[1] 1917-1935
Norwich City 1917-1929
Leeds City[2] 1917-1925
Madras City[1] 1917-1933
Eastern City[2] 1917-1933
Bradford City[2] 1919-1929
Cornish City[2] 1919-1929
Bradboyne 1919-1920
Bradclyde 1919-1934
Bradavon 1919-1933
Watsness 1919-1927
Yarborough 1919-1924
Hurliness 1919-1924
Dungeness 1917-1929
Skegness[1] 1919-1923
Stromness 1919-
Buchaness[1] 1920-1924
Indian City[2] 1920-1935
Atlantic City[2] 1920-1936
Jersey City[2] 1920-1940
Paris City[1] 1920-1938
Alness 1920-1933
Oakwin-General Lukin 1920-1928
Royal City 1920-1928
Quebec City[1] 1920-1927
Siam City 1921-1927
Truro City 1921-1929
Union City 1921-1925
Cragness[1] 1921-1924
Vulcan City 1921-1933
Riol 1921-1927
Berengar-Gen.Botha 1931-1926
Meropi 1922-1929
Welsh City[1] 1922-1938
York City 1922-1937
General Smuts 1923-1934
Buchaness[2] 1924-1948
Cragness[2] 1924-1943
Skegness[2] 1924-1941
Leeds City[3] 1927-1951
Quebec City[2] 1927-1942
Braddovey 1927-1938
Bradesk 1927-1936
Bradfyne 1928-1940
King City[2] 1928-1940
East Lynn 1928-1940

Vancouver City

Janner100
27th July 2007, 23:15
Well there I was fresh out of my apprenticeship and in the big city for the first time (well almost). Mother had packed all my clothes and engine room stuff ready for my first trip. It had cost me the princely sum of £100 (nearly one month’s wages).

The letter had arrived in early October offering me a job as a Junior Engineer and asking the question. That question was would I be prepared to travel to London on 1 November and fly out to join the Houston City. Naturally I replied that I would.

The travel warrant and joining orders arrived and off I went to London to stay at the Merchant Navy Hotel in Lancaster Gate – a very big adventure for a fresh faced Janner. After dropping my gear in the hotel room I went to enquire if anyone else had booked in – but I was the first. Taking the opportunity to visit Auntie down in Tooting I left the hotel and returned shortly after midnight where I bumped into three others trying to gain admission to the hotel. After brief introductions one turned out to be my room mate, Clive Greenwood from Newport. I felt sorry for Clive after keeping him awake most of the night talking. He was after all a second tripper and as such much more experienced. After an early breakfast where I met the rest of the compliment it was off through a grey rain swept London. It was during the strike by the refuse collectors with rubbish piled high.

The check in went smoothly with the check in people averaging the combined luggage weight and dividing it by the number in the party. This was a sensible way of doing things because, although Smiths allowed for 100 pounds in weight (pre-metric) it was sometimes not quite enough. On to the bar where we had a few to settle the nerves pre-flight and on to St John NB via Prestwick, Gander and Halifax. I remember it well. The ship was in port but for some reason the relief crew got the hotel for four days while the guys going home stayed on the ship. A stomach bug meant that I didn’t take advantage, unlike the rest, of having very large steak for dinner. This was the seventies remember and we didn’t get steak for dinner back in those days.

The Houston was a great ship on first sight. In the traditional style rather than a ’bulker’. A 4 cylinder P type opposed piston Doxford engine that looked awesome and as I found out later went like a sewing machine (an engineer’s technical term). After settling in and with watch keeping duties allocated we sailed for Houston. I drew the 8 to 12 watch with Kelvin Blunt the forth engineer. On the first night, naturally, I was seasick. A tad embarrassing as it was not at all rough. About a week later we arrived in Houston where I think my education really began. Up to that point I thought that I knew most things (but who doesn’t at 21)? How wrong was I?

First night ashore with Dave Jellyman, Dougie Cummings, and two other cadets whose names escape me for the moment. Standing at the bus stop waiting to go into Houston this car pulls up and offers us a lift. The driver was drinking whiskey from a plastic cup and the bottle was wrapped in brown paper. Texas had some weird liquor laws it seemed. Anyway the word on the streets indicated that the in place to go was the Red Baron club. So we got dropped off there and knocked on the door to get in. Problem number one – I was the only one old enough to drink. Problem number 2 – none of us was members. However if one of us joined as a life member problem number 1 would go away. So I joined but I pointed out that as I lived in England how would I get the membership card? I was assured they would post it but the post being terrible back in those days meant that the card for which I paid the great sum of $10 US never arrived

Oh well – lesson number one. Lesson number two was coming up fast. Being a topless bar meant that the waitresses were drop dead gorgeous. It also meant that the drinks were prohibitively expensive ( a pint in the UK at that time was around two bob (10p)). I asked for the bill after four rounds and nearly dropped through the floor. But who minds paying £25 when the waitresses are that gorgeous and so friendly.

But to be fair to Houston the people were friendly (despite being the murder capital of the world at the time and we did find cheaper places to drink in. On the last night in port I also got to see where American ladies liked to have their tattoos – but that’s another story.

Jim Prophet
11th August 2007, 20:59
Hello all,
I sailed with Lenny Taylor (EX Tacoma CIty) either on the Vancouver or New Westminster City.I seem to remember that we called him Lenny the Lion because he seemed to a strange habit of growling.

Janner100
12th August 2007, 07:11
Indeed so. I met up with Lenny at the Reunion in Derby in 2004. Ever a gent, Lenny took great delight in waking me up at 5 in the morning when we docked in Vancouver and a guy came on board asking if there was anyone from Cornwall on board. Being from Devon it must have appealed to his sense of humour.

Guernsey
21st August 2007, 18:30
I sailed with Reardon Smith from 1960-1972 as apprentice through to mate. First trip was on the Orient City on her maiden voyage. I have posted some photos in the gallery ( tramp steamers) I dont know if they can be moved to this site (Ruud?)
There is one photo of the Cardiff City in Ensenadawith Capt Danny LLoyd in the lifeboat (on the left) He retired ayear or two later.

Janner100
21st August 2007, 20:40
Great photographs - thanks. Did you ever sail with or meet a guy from Falmouth called John Wall. He was an engineer.

msrigg
21st August 2007, 20:46
Still trying to navigate my way around this site, I think I'm signed up to the "Smiths" thread now, so any old ship mates out there, would be interested to hear from you. Sailed with Smiths ( cadet to second mate) from '73 to '86 when they went bust. Got "arrested" by the Admiralty Marshall after anchoring in the Blackwater, Essex, on the Tacoma City. Funny thing is, i've been searching on & off for a few years on the net for somthing on Smiths, and have only recently found this site. Look forward to hearing fromanybody that picks this up. Tony Prosser.

Hi Tony, I sailed with you as deck cadet on the Indian City, must have been around 1975. I left Smiths in 1977.
Mike Rigg. Please send me a PM.

tonyp
2nd September 2007, 06:00
Hi Wally,
What a great site! Sorry this has taken so long, I'm not a great computer user, although I use them all day in my job (police officer- communications/control room, which is where I am typing this now @ 0555 hrs. on a night shift!). I joined the Avon & Somerset Police after Smiths went bust and a short trip with Hudsons out of Brighton back in '86.
Coming up to retirement in Febuary next year, although the wife says I may be retired from the Police, but I still have to find another job!!
It's a small world isn't it, with this internet, even smaller thinking about it, as when I came to this place to work Mike Savoury was working here as well, x- RO I sailed with several times! Do you know/remember him?
I've started a little profile of myself, somewhere on this site, ( still having some difficulty getting around it) & I have actually managed to upload a couple of TMM ships, ( Bibi & Siliva) and a very young picture of me in my RT certificate!

Sorry, have to go, getting reports of a fatal on the M5 motorway.

All the best, contact soon.

Tony.

tonyp
2nd September 2007, 06:08
Hi Mike, ( is this a SM? hope so)

As I said to Wally, sorry this has taken so long, i'm not so good at this. I'm at work at the moment, but the Indian I remember and some good times spending the decking money up the road in Japan - was it with you I visited the sauna/massage place in Yoko? Very up market, no naughty business there, I seem to remember it was the other places we visited for the naughty stuff!! All getting a litle hazy now, I will have to dig out some photos. Were you in the football team we had when we drydocked in Japan? I'm sure I have some photos of that, which I will post if I can remember how to do it!

Catch up with you soon, all the best,

Tony.

Wallyh
10th September 2007, 08:45
Tony

Don't know if you remember John Pagler, he is in NZ as well he is a Napier Pilot, emigrated about 2 years ago, he was a Cardiff Pilot before coming out here, don't know what happened to the rest of the Indian City crew, last I heard of Chris Godddard was about thirty years ago and he was with CP ships, Believe Don Jack died sometime ago, Al Nichol he was medically retired and not sure what he ended up doing, and the only cadet I can remeber is Mike Rigg.

How did you end up in the Police Force, bit of poacher turned gamekeeper, have you made it above the giddy height of Constable?
Hear from you soon

Wallyh

What the Fug
10th September 2007, 08:56
Why did Reardon Smith go belly up?

tonyp
12th September 2007, 03:02
Hi Wally, Yes I do remember John, paid off the Indian together in Japan if I recall correctly, having spent some seriously good times up the road.
Mike also, he replyed to the same message you did. As far as the poacher turning gamekeeper I don't know what you mean, honest! It seemed like a good idea at the time, at least secure if you keep your nose clean, with a pension at the end, which is next Feb.'08 (can't wait!!) And no, stayed a constable, could'nt bear to become a pen pushing politician in a uniform., although I did pass the exams, albeit at the wrong times!
If you know/see John, say hi for me, it's been a long time.
All the best, be back soon.
Tony.

tonyp
22nd September 2007, 05:32
Hi.

One of the reasons I seem to remember Smiths went belly up was a rather bad decision to invest in some semi-submersable rigs after the "black gold rush" in the north sea. Then there was possibly some dodgy dealing in the property/business market, and the cash flow stopped flowing and they couldn't pay the loan instalments back to the banks on the ships they had.
Wether the joint venture with the Irish was another factor I don't know.
It is a long time ago now, but i'm sure someone out there will know.

Regards,
Tonyp.

John Gurton
22nd September 2007, 18:29
Hi Tony,
Were you on the Gela when we ran aground in the Schelde about 1977?
Rgds
John

tonyp
24th September 2007, 22:21
Hi John,
Don't remember that precise incident, (brain cells have had a bit of a batttering!), I do know I was on a couple of different ships that did run aground, I'll check my discharge book, and diaries to see when I was on her.
Rgds,

Tony.

What the Fug
25th September 2007, 10:39
Hi.

One of the reasons I seem to remember Smiths went belly up was a rather bad decision to invest in some semi-submersable rigs after the "black gold rush" in the north sea. Then there was possibly some dodgy dealing in the property/business market, and the cash flow stopped flowing and they couldn't pay the loan instalments back to the banks on the ships they had.
Wether the joint venture with the Irish was another factor I don't know.
It is a long time ago now, but i'm sure someone out there will know.

Regards,
Tonyp.

Thanks for reply, have a vague memory that they got tied up with the Irish shipping and HK mob. Was in school at time and was not a happy bunny

tonyp
26th September 2007, 18:05
Hi. Checked my discharge book, I was on the Gela in '74 Capt. Garlick was the OM. joined Rotterdam Jan. '74 .
Reards
Tony

John Gurton
29th September 2007, 11:19
Tony,
Must have been another 3/0, senior memory. Great trip went to Cork , Guatemala and NY as well as Mexico,it was late 76 we had the incident. Capt Burroughs was OM and Phil Deschamps the Mate. Met Capt B about 94? on a TMM car carrier I was piloting on the Medway, also see Phil regularly as he's a PLA pilot.
rgds John

ArthurG
19th October 2007, 10:38
I sailed with my father Geoff Garlick as a child, 1967-1977. Quite a few ships, I remember the bulk carriers with 5 cranes most of all like Vancouver City and Fresno City.

I was probably a brat back then and our family had it's problems, but I'd be interested in hearing from anyone who knew my dad or even remembered me.

Thanks

Arthur Garlick

Janner100
19th October 2007, 18:38
I remember your Dad's name from old Fleet magazines but neber had the privelege of sailing with him. My ships were the Houston, Cornish, Tacoma, Maria Eliza, Vancouver (10 days only), Victoria and Port Alberni.

The 'Old Men' were Flash Thomas (twice), Danny John (twice), John Cann, and Tom McNulty. Not sure who was old man on the Vancouver as I was only on for 10 days in drydock in Amsterdam and senilty is setting in.

ArthurG
20th October 2007, 12:16
Thanks - I think I was on the Port Alberni, and also the New West Minster.

I have a few memories, like the engineer (big permed hair if I remember correctly) who always put ridiculous amounts of ketchup on his food.

Being covered head to toe in something awful as part of a Neptune party, coloured oil I think - anyway whatever it was it needed a big tin of swarfega to get off

Giving a radar a burial at sea and the sparks giving me the permanent magnet out of it which to this day I've never seen such a powerful magnet.

I think the apprentices would make things as part of their training? Well I used to do quite well from that I had quite a few toys constructed for me such as a mega catapult and a turned brass cannon - someone made a pretty convincing sub machine gun complete with dummy bullets! I remember playing with the hull of a model Cardiff class bulk carrier that someone had made in the swimming pool.

And huge curtains covering the walls made out of ring pulls off cans. Actually now I think of it I can remember quite a few things of being at sea.



I was on the Gela in '74 Capt. Garlick was the OM.

What is OM?

Janner100
20th October 2007, 23:03
OM = Old man = Captain I would guess.

ArthurG
22nd October 2007, 16:53
Ah, thanks - I had 'M' as Master or Mariner - just couldn't think what the O was for...

Maybe someone will remember this story... On one ship a blue budgie landed on the deck when we were some distance off the shore of Japan, poor thing was knackered. The crew nursed him back and named him Bruce and he was super tame, could talk Japanese and would run off after a matchstick like a dog would a stick. My father had a proper cap'n Birds Eye beard at the time and he looked pretty ridiculous with that budgie perched on his shoulder! Anyone remember of that bird? I think it was '77 and the ship was Fresno City?

tunatownshipwreck
22nd October 2007, 20:04
Well there I was fresh out of my apprenticeship and in the big city for the first time (well almost). Mother had packed all my clothes and engine room stuff ready for my first trip. It had cost me the princely sum of £100 (nearly one month’s wages).

The letter had arrived in early October offering me a job as a Junior Engineer and asking the question. That question was would I be prepared to travel to London on 1 November and fly out to join the Houston City. Naturally I replied that I would.

The travel warrant and joining orders arrived and off I went to London to stay at the Merchant Navy Hotel in Lancaster Gate – a very big adventure for a fresh faced Janner. After dropping my gear in the hotel room I went to enquire if anyone else had booked in – but I was the first. Taking the opportunity to visit Auntie down in Tooting I left the hotel and returned shortly after midnight where I bumped into three others trying to gain admission to the hotel. After brief introductions one turned out to be my room mate, Clive Greenwood from Newport. I felt sorry for Clive after keeping him awake most of the night talking. He was after all a second tripper and as such much more experienced. After an early breakfast where I met the rest of the compliment it was off through a grey rain swept London. It was during the strike by the refuse collectors with rubbish piled high.

The check in went smoothly with the check in people averaging the combined luggage weight and dividing it by the number in the party. This was a sensible way of doing things because, although Smiths allowed for 100 pounds in weight (pre-metric) it was sometimes not quite enough. On to the bar where we had a few to settle the nerves pre-flight and on to St John NB via Prestwick, Gander and Halifax. I remember it well. The ship was in port but for some reason the relief crew got the hotel for four days while the guys going home stayed on the ship. A stomach bug meant that I didn’t take advantage, unlike the rest, of having very large steak for dinner. This was the seventies remember and we didn’t get steak for dinner back in those days.

The Houston was a great ship on first sight. In the traditional style rather than a ’bulker’. A 4 cylinder P type opposed piston Doxford engine that looked awesome and as I found out later went like a sewing machine (an engineer’s technical term). After settling in and with watch keeping duties allocated we sailed for Houston. I drew the 8 to 12 watch with Kelvin Blunt the forth engineer. On the first night, naturally, I was seasick. A tad embarrassing as it was not at all rough. About a week later we arrived in Houston where I think my education really began. Up to that point I thought that I knew most things (but who doesn’t at 21)? How wrong was I?

First night ashore with Dave Jellyman, Dougie Cummings, and two other cadets whose names escape me for the moment. Standing at the bus stop waiting to go into Houston this car pulls up and offers us a lift. The driver was drinking whiskey from a plastic cup and the bottle was wrapped in brown paper. Texas had some weird liquor laws it seemed. Anyway the word on the streets indicated that the in place to go was the Red Baron club. So we got dropped off there and knocked on the door to get in. Problem number one – I was the only one old enough to drink. Problem number 2 – none of us was members. However if one of us joined as a life member problem number 1 would go away. So I joined but I pointed out that as I lived in England how would I get the membership card? I was assured they would post it but the post being terrible back in those days meant that the card for which I paid the great sum of $10 US never arrived

Oh well – lesson number one. Lesson number two was coming up fast. Being a topless bar meant that the waitresses were drop dead gorgeous. It also meant that the drinks were prohibitively expensive ( a pint in the UK at that time was around two bob (10p)). I asked for the bill after four rounds and nearly dropped through the floor. But who minds paying £25 when the waitresses are that gorgeous and so friendly.

But to be fair to Houston the people were friendly (despite being the murder capital of the world at the time and we did find cheaper places to drink in. On the last night in port I also got to see where American ladies liked to have their tattoos – but that’s another story.

Earlier that year The Houston City called at Astoria (June 1970) to load grain. I met the Indian crew and still remember a man named Roe, who was either bosun or cassab (he looked just like Sammy Davis Jr). That ship had the hottest Indian food I had ever eaten at the time (I was 16), incredibly hot, sweat was pouring down my face. One night after showing Roe around town, getting him a date with "Janie", who had no limits, it was looking like a long walk back to the ship, and Roe was rather exhausted. Several blocks into our walk, an inebriated patron of a bar burst out asking us where a G...D... whorehouse was. We told him we didn't know, but he was insistent, and we couldn't lose the guy as we continued our walk. My friend and I were thinking the same thing, and told him we knew where one was, but we couldn't walk there, so the guy calls a cab. We all pile in, we tell the driver to take us to pier one at the port, while mr obnoxious continues on loudly about how he was going to break every bed in the g..d... whorehouse. We get to the pier, Roe heads to his ship, we send mr obnoxious over to the watchman's office, and my friend and I head off to our respective homes. I saw mr obnoxious several times around town after that, but he seemed to have no memory of me.

Janner100
22nd October 2007, 22:44
Tunatown

I remember being in portland on the Tacoma City around May 1972. There were lots of sweatshirts for sale from some election or other with "VOTE" emblazoned on it in white red and blue. I just had to have one. It was so trendy it stayed with me for years until I finally lost my sylph like figure and gave up the fight against weight gain. Met some young ladies in a countrty music bar (Daddy's or Dad's I think it was called).

There was also an English style pub called the Elephabt and Castle. This had an electronic game of darts that was vogue on the West Coast that year.

The visit of the Houston to Astoria to which you refer was the trip before I joined. The Houston was a really great ship.

tunatownshipwreck
23rd October 2007, 05:29
Tunatown

I remember being in portland on the Tacoma City around May 1972. There were lots of sweatshirts for sale from some election or other with "VOTE" emblazoned on it in white red and blue. I just had to have one. It was so trendy it stayed with me for years until I finally lost my sylph like figure and gave up the fight against weight gain. Met some young ladies in a countrty music bar (Daddy's or Dad's I think it was called).

There was also an English style pub called the Elephabt and Castle. This had an electronic game of darts that was vogue on the West Coast that year.

The visit of the Houston to Astoria to which you refer was the trip before I joined. The Houston was a really great ship.

Yes, that was during the Oregon presidential primary election, always held in May of an election year. Those shirts were to encourage new voters age 18-21 who had recently been given the right to vote (previous age minimum was 21). Shirts that fit me then only go around my head now.

Don't remember Daddy's or Dad's, but I was under 21 (the Oregon drinking age), and going into a country bar then with long hair (back when I had hair) was not a good way to have a peaceful time.

Elephant & Castle, I loved that place, great fish and chips. They just closed down two years ago when the landlord sold out to some deep-pocket developers who tore down the building and erected an ugly tower. I don't know why they didn't move to another location, they decided to chuck it in. They gave up on the electronic darts and went back to old school darts quite some time ago.

You're right about the Houston. What a clean ship, even in the aft accomodations, I almost thought it was Norwegian.

CAPILANO
29th October 2007, 16:18
Cymruman
John Cann Here Understand We Sailed Together Twice And Many Thanks For Your Compliments. Which Ships Did We Cross Paths On ?
I Am Now Well Retired But Keeping Fit And Keeping A Close Eye On Rsl Shipmates. Someone Asked About Commodore Mark Higgins. He Is Still Pegging Along And Will Be 90 In March. He Takes The Cake As Far As The Pension Scheme Is Concerned. I Think He Has Been Retired Longer Than He Served At Sea.- Not Bad Eh?
Am Slowly Finding My Way Round Sn. A Very Interesting Site.
Kind Regards
Capilano

PJ Godding
22nd November 2007, 11:21
Ah, thanks - I had 'M' as Master or Mariner - just couldn't think what the O was for...

Maybe someone will remember this story... On one ship a blue budgie landed on the deck when we were some distance off the shore of Japan, poor thing was knackered. The crew nursed him back and named him Bruce and he was super tame, could talk Japanese and would run off after a matchstick like a dog would a stick. My father had a proper cap'n Birds Eye beard at the time and he looked pretty ridiculous with that budgie perched on his shoulder! Anyone remember of that bird? I think it was '77 and the ship was Fresno City?

If I rember correctly it was Bruce the Budgie. After his arrival went down to Aussie and the OM had to put a bond on him and Buce lived in the OM cabin.
He was a resident in the bar had had a droppings pan made under his perch.
Wonderful.

Phil Godding

manolito_1
21st December 2007, 10:19
Hi Tony, Your name rings a bell,Have I sailed with you? as I was with RSL 1974-1988 when I retired! from the sea.Did you know Alec Osbourne runs a RSL Newsletter (4 a year) costs members about £6 year.
his address, if you are interested is,
avaialable if you send me a PM
Hope to hear from you.
Best wishes for Xmas & New Year. Malcolm Bennington. ex RSL 'leccy'

Edited to remove address as per site policy - MS

Willie Davies
22nd December 2007, 15:52
Does anyone know the whereabouts of Justin Scmidt, electrician. He was on the Tacoma City in October 1975. Lived in the Newport area as I remember (although that bit is hazy).

I never knew Justin but I believe he was from Port Talbot,

Willie Davies
22nd December 2007, 16:06
Hello Tony

Wally Hutchings here, did second mates together I think in the dim distant past. I am ex Smiths as well Cardiff, Atlantic, Cornish, vancouver, Wilkawa Victoria and Indian

How is it going still at sea? or made the big leap ashore, I migrated to NZ about 10 years ago, ended up on chemical tankers after Smiths and stayed on them until I came ashore 7 years ago, migrated to New Zealand ten years ago and am now working for a New Zealand oil company operating tankers fro them.

Wallyh

Hello Wally, I remember you from on the Wilkawa, you were the senior cadet & I was the 5th engineer. I am sure when deep sea you were doing the 4 to 8 watch which I also done
Anyway Willie Cross was the old man. While in the NOLA area we had numerious problems , then in Panama we had a bunker spill, I got up for my watch at 0400 hrs to see Willie going down the gangway with 2 police? type guys & Willie was dressed in a dressing gown
Other names that trip - John Concannan, george Cuthbertson, simon stoliage,clive greenwood,jackie chatton, evan sefton.
Other names I do not remember.
Have a nice xmas and I hope to hear from you in the future.
Willie Davies

Willie Davies
22nd December 2007, 16:35
I sailed with my father Geoff Garlick as a child, 1967-1977. Quite a few ships, I remember the bulk carriers with 5 cranes most of all like Vancouver City and Fresno City.

I was probably a brat back then and our family had it's problems, but I'd be interested in hearing from anyone who knew my dad or even remembered me.

Thanks

Arthur Garlick
Hello Arthur,
I am sorry to say I never sailed with yourself but I did sail with your Dad.
It was on the Gela in I think 1974, the Gela had just been taken over by RSL & was in quite a run down state. I joined her as 4th engineer in Antwerp in the middle of March & a new Indian crew joined her the day before.
We sailed for Halifax and then onward to the east coast of Mexico.
I was was a horrid crossing with huge seas just to the east of Canada.
A few days out from Halifax one of the crew come out in scabs/sores & from the medical book on board and the incubation period it was felt that we could have a case of Smallpox.
As you can imagine this did not go down well with the CANADIAN authorities. On anchoring off Halifax it was difficult to see land even with the radar.
The agent came out to the ship with mail and numerious other papers, also in tow was the news tv cameras, that night we all watch your dad on TV shouting in the strongest possible terms for the agent to drop the mail on the bottom of the gangway from his boat and retire, so it could be collected.
Needless to say he would not oblige.

We stayed at anchor for a few days branded as the plage ship on Canadian news, however none of the medical type who eventually came to the ship from some tropical medicine place in Toronto had any idea what Smallpox looked like, we all got a good examination of every mole, pimple and spot by these experts, samples were taken away for examination of the sick mans scabs & yes you guessed it he had chickenpox all the time.
Its over 30 years ago but thats very close to the truth.
When your dad was in charge of the plage ship

It was a very hard trip so its as well you went to school for that one.

hope you found this enlightening

regards
Willie Davies

Wallyh
24th December 2007, 04:11
Hello Wally, I remember you from on the Wilkawa, you were the senior cadet & I was the 5th engineer. I am sure when deep sea you were doing the 4 to 8 watch which I also done
Anyway Willie Cross was the old man. While in the NOLA area we had numerious problems , then in Panama we had a bunker spill, I got up for my watch at 0400 hrs to see Willie going down the gangway with 2 police? type guys & Willie was dressed in a dressing gown
Other names that trip - John Concannan, george Cuthbertson, simon stoliage,clive greenwood,jackie chatton, evan sefton.
Other names I do not remember.
Have a nice xmas and I hope to hear from you in the future.
Willie Davies

Hello Willie

Yes I remember you and the Wilkawa trip very well, the Mates was John Staines and Dick Clifford, second mate Simon Schooledge and all the fun and games of New Orleans, we initially dragged anchor at the Algiers Point anchorage, on to a Yugoslavian ship couldn't get a pilot so Wille decided to move her we ended up alongside the floating dock not by design though, they took us down to 9 mile bend we we languished for about three weeks I think, anyway when it came to it the anchor cables had silted in the river bed and it took us about 18 hours to get them free, we managed to load ok but ran aground on a mud lump about 3 cables north of the south west mouth where we stayed for another 18 hours or so. I can also remember Wille getting taken ashore in Panama. Now Evan Sefton there was a Chief Steward for you "gravy 's tender" was his stock reply to any complaint about the food and if I remember rightly there were a few. All character building stuff. What are you up to now? Still at Sea? Keep in touch

Have a Happy Christmas etc

Wally

Janner100
26th December 2007, 09:18
Will

have you seen or heard of Clive Greenwood since those heady days on the Wilkowa?

Willie Davies
26th December 2007, 10:14
Will

have you seen or heard of Clive Greenwood since those heady days on the Wilkowa?

Yes , I met him by chance in the local shopping centre last year and we exchanged e-mails, I had told him I had some photos off the Wilkawa & I would send them to him. I did have another e-mail back but that was at least 6 or 7 months ago.
To get his e-mail address I will have to fire up my old computer as it was replaced in November.
Regards
Willie.

manolito_1
27th December 2007, 10:23
Yes I was with RSL 1974-1988 as (leccy). sailed on Fresno,New Westminster,Atlantic,Sara Lupe,Maria Elisa,Port Alberni,Prince Rupert,Devon,Sami,Cardiff(became Eastern Valley),Skeena,Guanajuato,Lerma,Bibi and my last one Sonia M,anybody out there sailed with me ?
Best wishes for New Year Malcolm Bennington

Willie Davies
11th January 2008, 21:30
Hello agaion Wally, a very happy new year to you.
Yes the trip on the Wilkawa was very eventful and I have some smashing photos of tug trying to pull us off the mud bank. While we were in the NOLA area we had a visit from Alex Osborne & I speak to him every few months & he remembers our escapades in the Missisippi.
I hope you are a member of the "shipmates" newsletter that Alex produces 4 times a year for the very reasonable sum of £6 - there are lots of names and articals you will be able to relate too.
I had several great voyages with RSL after the Wilkawa but in `1977 I got my 2nd ticket & it was time to start taking some responsibility so I joined Bank line - I would new have got a 2nd's job as they had so many good engineers, even if I was still with them now.
I did 3 voyages with Bank line all of which stunning, the places they used to go in Papua & the Islands is hard to discrible.
After Bank line I did a 6 week voyage with Willie's from Cardiff ( its not my company) on a 1500tonne ship running between Watchet in Somerset & Lisbon, sadly most days at sea I was sea sick and that was in August. I did get to sail cheif on my 2nd's ticket for a short while.
I considered my options and descied that I would not last the winter on the 1500 tonner.
CP ship wanted staff by this time so I joined them.

Gwyn Lewis
17th January 2008, 01:32
Great site. Sailed for over 4 years (1972/76) on Indian City, Sara Lupe, Tacoma City, Fresno City, Atlantic City and Gela as Junior and Fourth Eng. Glad to see some familiar names.

cymruman
17th January 2008, 14:01
Hi Gwyn, hows the trumpet, hope you are enjoying your retirement from Singleton.
Regards from the "Secret service engineer" lol

Willie Davies
17th January 2008, 18:12
Great site. Sailed for over 4 years (1972/76) on Indian City, Sara Lupe, Tacoma City, Fresno City, Atlantic City and Gela as Junior and Fourth Eng. Glad to see some familiar names.

Hi Gwyn
Good to hear from you are still around, the last time we met was probably doing part a cheif's in Llandaff & Ian Jones was our lecturer.
I recall we were both with Bank line at the time.
Best regards
Willie

john trotter
17th January 2008, 19:04
I saild with Weardon Smiths on the houston city on her maiden voyage in 1963 it was a good ship and crew, apart from the chief eng.We had two passengers on the ship a mr and mrs Kemp he was the chief accoutant for Smiths and it was his retirment gift from the company.

Gwyn Lewis
17th January 2008, 19:40
Hi Arthur. I remember you from my Fresno City days. You must have been about 9 or 1-0 years old at the time. I was 4th. EO

Gwyn Lewis
17th January 2008, 19:44
Hi Gwyn, hows the trumpet, hope you are enjoying your retirement from Singleton.
Regards from the "Secret service engineer" lol
Blowing full steam ahead these days. Got a canal gig in Holland April time. About as close to deep sea I get, apart from the Cross Channel ferries.

Gwyn Lewis
17th January 2008, 19:48
Hi Gwyn
Good to hear from you are still around, the last time we met was probably doing part a cheif's in Llandaff & Ian Jones was our lecturer.
I recall we were both with Bank line at the time.
Best regards
Willie
Hi Willie. You still keeping the shoppers warm and dry in Cwmbran these days. Don't see many of the guys since I retired to play music.

Janner100
21st January 2008, 08:53
What happened to those great models in the lobby of Devenshire House when the company went broke?

manolito_1
21st January 2008, 09:47
Hi Tonyp,Yes you are right about RSL venture into oil rigs.The Atlantic 1 was built in Denmark and ended up costing around £10million over double the original estimate,all because of the £-Dkroner exchange at the time.

regards Malcolm

manolito_1
21st January 2008, 09:51
I think they were kept as RSL became Cardiff Ship Management and were still supplying officer for TMM.I left RSL in 1988 (my last ship Sonia M)

regards Malcolm

manolito_1
21st January 2008, 10:07
Hi Tony,I have an idea you and me have sailed together? my memory is not so good as it used to be.I think the Tacoma City beat us to River Blackwater.I was on the Eastern Valley,we too had a 'lien' notice posted on the bridge so we could be paid our voyage money before anyone else.I paid off there 24-7-1985.My next ship after that was the 'Skeena'Left Smith's 1988.

regards Malcolm Bennington ex RSL Elect/4th eng.

manolito_1
21st January 2008, 10:27
Hi Wallyh,
I sailed with Al Nichol a few times,still keep in touch with him and his wife Jan.He is well and retired now. He lives in Ottery St.Mary Devon.

regards Malcolm.

manolito_1
21st January 2008, 10:47
Hi Tony.
Just been going thro' my old notes and have to correct my previous statement's. The oil rigs were Finnish built.Delivered 1976.
Atlantic 1 soley owned by RSL.
Atlantic 2 owned by Ben Line Steamers Ltd.
Sea Conquest taken on bareboat charter by BP.
Midway thro' 1975 Reardon Smith(Atlantic)Ltd increased interests in Atlantic Drilling Company to 50% and the rig AG705 delivered to RSL Jan.1976.

regards Malcolm

manolito_1
21st January 2008, 11:22
Has anyone got any photo's of--Sara Lupe (ex Cardiff City (1) built 1962)
Maria Elisa (ex Houston City built 1963)


regards Malcolm

David Edge
22nd January 2008, 22:55
Picture of Sara Lupe mid 1975 alongside in Nicaragua or somewhere close by.
OM was JJ Kalins 3rd Eng nicknamed Gromph

Wallyh
23rd January 2008, 08:01
Hi Wallyh,
I sailed with Al Nichol a few times,still keep in touch with him and his wife Jan.He is well and retired now. He lives in Ottery St.Mary Devon.

regards Malcolm.

Hello Malcolm

Please give my regards to Al sailed with him on the Indian along with a few other reprobates who have ventured to place missives on this site, he was a bloody good Mate who deserved a lot better than he got from Smith's. Let him know the BOT eventually let me have a Master's ticket which for the next twenty or so years managed to use in anger. On chemical tankers of various hues and nationality, bit like the old tramp ships really with the chance of being either poisoned, gassed or blown sky high. Now in New Zealand have been for last ten years and ashore for the last eight. When you contact him next tell him I still haven't forgiven him for spending my Yamashita back hander on a calculator(for me I might add) instead of letting me spend it on the nefarious activity I had planned for it, but we won't go into that in detail my wife might read this site.

All the best

Wallyh

rad
3rd February 2008, 15:59
Hi all! Im new here and still trying to find my way around the site.I spent a year with Reardon smiths, (march 1958-Feb 59) as asst steward on the Bradford City. I then left the company and went to the Wireles College in Colwyn Bay for 18 months and beame a Radio Officer, and spent a few years with J&J Denholms.I never never got the chance to work with Reardon Smiths which was a shame because it was a great company to work for.I seem to remember the OM was a Capt Justin, My memory is fadeing now so Im not sure. During that time there was an Apprentice on there from my home town (Ebbw Vale) called Brian Jones who was a great mate of mine,he later became master at the age of 28 or 29 one of the yougest in the British MN i ,believe not quite sure. I never saw him again as we were never on leave at the same time. He was later killed in Australia, drove his car off the dock or so the story goes. Never did find out the exact details. If anybody remembers me or that era I would love to here from them

Regards to you all Ray Davies

Janner100
6th February 2008, 21:05
Does anyone have any of the fleet lists with crews for the period 1970 - 1986? I am thinking it would be an idea to refernce them on a site for posterity.

tvrem
4th March 2008, 08:43
Cymruman
John Cann Here Understand We Sailed Together Twice And Many Thanks For Your Compliments. Which Ships Did We Cross Paths On ?
I Am Now Well Retired But Keeping Fit And Keeping A Close Eye On Rsl Shipmates. Someone Asked About Commodore Mark Higgins. He Is Still Pegging Along And Will Be 90 In March. He Takes The Cake As Far As The Pension Scheme Is Concerned. I Think He Has Been Retired Longer Than He Served At Sea.- Not Bad Eh?
Am Slowly Finding My Way Round Sn. A Very Interesting Site.
Kind Regards
Capilano

are you or are you not "Appledores " Jonny Cann. Hows those little grey cells working? Bradford City om Fisher 1950. Whippet Cross - Dave Chick -John Cann - MervThomas.
A long time ago
Regards Merv {Tommy} tvrem

CAPILANO
7th March 2008, 15:07
tvrem
Yep- the one and only- Bradford City Oct.51 to April 53. Sadly on the 3rd trip Henry Fisher was releived by Danny Lloyd and was repatriated suffering with cancer of the throat. I am frantically trying to identify you- Whippet Cross and Lanky Richardson I recall. Pse come back and tell me more. Brain not too bad but the rest slowly wearing out!!
Best regards
John

CAPILANO
9th March 2008, 16:50
tvrem
You are quite right- it was not Lanky Ridhardson but Dave Chick! He lived at Mickleover, Near Derby not far from me. Get this- his father was a long distance Coach driver for Barton Transport. Whippet Cross lived in Grangetown, Cardiff with whom I wasted my first attempt at 2nd Mates!!Please dont think me cheeky, but I seem to recall an App with freckles?Anyway, thanks for stimulating my brain!!
Rgds John

tvrem
15th March 2008, 01:45
tvrem
You are quite right- it was not Lanky Ridhardson but Dave Chick! He lived at Mickleover, Near Derby not far from me. Get this- his father was a long distance Coach driver for Barton Transport. Whippet Cross lived in Grangetown, Cardiff with whom I wasted my first attempt at 2nd Mates!!Please dont think me cheeky, but I seem to recall an App with freckles?Anyway, thanks for stimulating my brain!!
Rgds John
HI JOHN .yes - you are right "ALAS poor freckles" which have now turned into facial lines topped with grey hair additionaly right bradford city we paid off in 1953 at Cardiff BRICE Thomas having brought it round from Hull for dry docking at The Mount Stuart.I dont know if you are aware of the following but it may be of interest. shortly after the demise of Rsl I received from an ex Rsl app. A south Wales Echo cutting entitled "The flag dips for a master mariner" by Dan O'Niel relating to Rsl but featuring Captain Geofrey Cross[whippit].In 1979 he was training men in seafaring in Iran when the Shahs regimewas toppled. In addition to being trapped he masterminded the smuggling out of an 8500ton Canadian oil rig to Bahrain, In the process of makin quite a name for himself.According to the article he retired to Cardiff to operate an Off Licence bot I expect that Supermarkets put pay to that.
Regards Merv.

price
15th March 2008, 16:01
I met an elderly gentleman by the name of Beazley at a St. Davids Day Lunch in Tenby, he told me that he had served his time with Smiths through the early 1930s with fellow apprentice Danny Lloyd. After gaining his 2/mates cert. Mr. Beazley had to seek a living ashore because, due to the depression there were no jobs afloat. He was very interested to learn that I had sailed with Capt. Danny Lloyd in 1957 on the 'Atlantic City'.
Mr. Beazley told me that at the outbreak of WW II he joined the R.N. and was made a Lieutenant. He commanded tank landing craft attached to US forces on the Omaha beach landing in 1944, they were operating out of Portland.
Bruce.

Willie Davies
17th March 2008, 23:56
Has anyone got any photo's of--Sara Lupe (ex Cardiff City (1) built 1962)
Maria Elisa (ex Houston City built 1963)


regards Malcolm

Here's the last one of the Houston in Acapulco before she became the Maria Elisa

Tramp
28th March 2008, 22:11
I am trying to find out about the SS "Indian City" which was a tramp steamer sailing under the Reardon Smith Line in the 1920's and early 1930's. I have some basic information from the Miramar Ship Index in that she was of 6221 tons, launched in December 1919, and broken up in June 1935. Can anyone out there fill in the blanks as to officers and crew, the type of cargo that she carried and her call sign?

Degema
3rd April 2008, 21:12
Anyone sail with Captain Oliver Lindsay? I understand he ended up as Commodore. He is currently President of the Merchant Navy Association (Wales)

cymruman
4th April 2008, 05:46
Anyone sail with Captain Oliver Lindsay? I understand he ended up as Commodore. He is currently President of the Merchant Navy Association (Wales)

Afraid I never sailed with Capt Lindsay, but I know a few that did, I think he was master of Cornish when she changed engines in Aioi.

I believe he banned Welsh City guys from her bar after we woke up the ch/stew ( Fred Lever?????) to crack out a few more cases. Next night they were all on the Welsh as we returned the favour.

I will look forward to seeing some of the comments and hearing about the exploits of old colleagues.

Wallyh
6th April 2008, 02:36
Anyone sail with Captain Oliver Lindsay? I understand he ended up as Commodore. He is currently President of the Merchant Navy Association (Wales)

Yes sailed with OJT on the Atlantic City April 1970 - Oct 1970, Mate was W.D. Jones, 2nd Mate Jeff Lloyd, 3rd Mate Paddy Lewis, Deck Cadets Alex Skeogh, Duggie Cumming and Myself, Engineers can't remember all of them, Jumbo Combes was third, Ken Hampton was Electrician, Chief Stwd Colin Harrhy, can't remember the rest but they will come to me

Wally H

Degema
6th April 2008, 10:39
Yes sailed with OJT on the Atlantic City April 1970 - Oct 1970, Mate was W.D. Jones, 2nd Mate Jeff Lloyd, 3rd Mate Paddy Lewis, Deck Cadets Alex Skeogh, Duggie Cumming and Myself, Engineers can't remember all of them, Jumbo Combes was third, Ken Hampton was Electrician, Chief Stwd Colin Harrhy, can't remember the rest but they will come to me

Wally H

Not being a Reardon Smith man myself what is/was the significance of OJT or Olly Tab Nabs?

mikes
8th April 2008, 01:10
Just been introduced to the site by Tony Prosser whom I now work with in Comms at Avon and Somerset Police, small world!! Boozed and Cruised wiv Smiths from 73 to 85, first trip on Tacoma City as a 'baby' sparks. Got the nickname of "Ned" somewhere along the line!!

Mike Savory

Wallyh
8th April 2008, 09:28
Not being a Reardon Smith man myself what is/was the significance of OJT or Olly Tab Nabs?

OJT are his initials and Olly tab nabs comes from when he was Mate and you had better ask him the origin of the saying.

Jacktar1
12th April 2008, 21:55
Are we talking about Singleton Hospital, Swansea ? Am originally from Swansea, left there in 81 for the Bahamas, from 84 to 98 have lived in Florida due to working with a Miami based cruise line. Hope to return home by the end of this year. Served my time with RSL and sailed as 3rd & 2nd Mate, 48 to 53.
Cheers.....Glan Phillips

cymruman
13th April 2008, 10:02
Are we talking about Singleton Hospital, Swansea ? Am originally from Swansea, left there in 81 for the Bahamas, from 84 to 98 have lived in Florida due to working with a Miami based cruise line. Hope to return home by the end of this year. Served my time with RSL and sailed as 3rd & 2nd Mate, 48 to 53.
Cheers.....Glan Phillips

Indeed it is Swansea, Gwyn was in Hospital Engineers Management team, before he retired, I will let him tell you the rest as I know he looks in every now and agaain. You will notice a big difference when you return (some may say not for the good ), very little shipping in docks, BP closed down ( Llandarcy and Baglan) dock sheds all converted to flats, sorry they are apartments now arent they.
Traffic management system that has to be seen to be believed.
But the Welcome is still in those Hills so its not all bad.

David Edge
13th April 2008, 20:19
Sailed with Capt Lindsay on the Vancouver City March-June 76. Dry/Floating Dock in Flushing. Paid off in Bahia Blanca and missed the chance to go round the Horn. Remember an interesting passage up to Rosario Argentina.

Wallyh
14th April 2008, 09:01
Yes sailed with OJT on the Atlantic City April 1970 - Oct 1970, Mate was W.D. Jones, 2nd Mate Jeff Lloyd, 3rd Mate Paddy Lewis, Deck Cadets Alex Skeogh, Duggie Cumming and Myself, Engineers can't remember all of them, Jumbo Combes was third, Ken Hampton was Electrician, Chief Stwd Colin Harrhy, can't remember the rest but they will come to me

Wally H

Can remember rest of engineers C/E was John Towning, 2/E was Ian Fraser 4/E was Colin **** his brother was a chief with smiths came from Barry ended up fracturing his knee cap in Kobe when we paid off flew home in agony ( Japanese wouldn't let him stay in hospital unless we all stayed, extra 3/E was Ian Jones ended up a director I think,couple of juniors who I can't remember and an engieer cadet Dickie Ash.

Walllyh

Gwyn Lewis
16th April 2008, 19:35
Hi Mike,

Were you "baby Sparks" when we collided with Noord Brabant whilst sailing on the Tacoma. I think Ken Sellars was senior sparks.

Gwyn Lewis 4th. Eng Tacoma City

Janner100
16th April 2008, 19:46
Wallyh

Duggie Cumming then joined the Houston in November 1970. I sailed with Alex on the Tacoma in 1973. Ian Jones was also on the same trip. Didn't realise then he was being groomed for stardom.

mikes
18th April 2008, 11:27
Hi Gwyn,
Think I had just paid off by then as stayed onboard when you all joined in Moji in September. Do you remember when we tore the bottom out in Gold River when Tom McNulty was 'old man' and ended up in drydock in Victoria for a couple of weeks!

graham w
18th April 2008, 12:08
Ahoy,
Here a fleetlist,starting with the early years,so if you've some piccies,just add them.
Name Period
City of Cardiff 1906-1912
Leeds City[1] 1908-1912
Bradford City[1] 1910-1917
Atlantic City[1] 1912-1929
Cornish City[1] 1912-1914
Devon City[1] 1913-1928
Eastern City[1] 1913-1916
Great City[1] 1914-1936
Jersey City[1] 1914-1917
Indian City[1] 1915-
Homer City[1] 1915-1929
Coniston Water 1916-1917
Fallodon 1917-
Escrick 1917-1918
Runswick 1917-1918
King City[1] 1917-1927
Orient City[1] 1917-1935
Norwich City 1917-1929
Leeds City[2] 1917-1925
Madras City[1] 1917-1933
Eastern City[2] 1917-1933
Bradford City[2] 1919-1929
Cornish City[2] 1919-1929
Bradboyne 1919-1920
Bradclyde 1919-1934
Bradavon 1919-1933
Watsness 1919-1927
Yarborough 1919-1924
Hurliness 1919-1924
Dungeness 1917-1929
Skegness[1] 1919-1923
Stromness 1919-
Buchaness[1] 1920-1924
Indian City[2] 1920-1935
Atlantic City[2] 1920-1936
Jersey City[2] 1920-1940
Paris City[1] 1920-1938
Alness 1920-1933
Oakwin-General Lukin 1920-1928
Royal City 1920-1928
Quebec City[1] 1920-1927
Siam City 1921-1927
Truro City 1921-1929
Union City 1921-1925
Cragness[1] 1921-1924
Vulcan City 1921-1933
Riol 1921-1927
Berengar-Gen.Botha 1931-1926
Meropi 1922-1929
Welsh City[1] 1922-1938
York City 1922-1937
General Smuts 1923-1934
Buchaness[2] 1924-1948
Cragness[2] 1924-1943
Skegness[2] 1924-1941
Leeds City[3] 1927-1951
Quebec City[2] 1927-1942
Braddovey 1927-1938
Bradesk 1927-1936
Bradfyne 1928-1940
King City[2] 1928-1940
East Lynn 1928-1940

Hi Ruud,
Thanks for your excellent data. I am trying to get a photo of my fathers ship, 143413 Quebec City 1927, ex Haimon, Roland line 1911.
I am very new to Ships nostalgia so am still learning how to use this site, so could you copy any reply to graham@ballygate.go-plus.net

Many thanks,Graham Watson ( graham w )

Willie Davies
18th April 2008, 20:46
Can remember rest of engineers C/E was John Towning, 2/E was Ian Fraser 4/E was Colin **** his brother was a chief with smiths came from Barry ended up fracturing his knee cap in Kobe when we paid off flew home in agony ( Japanese wouldn't let him stay in hospital unless we all stayed, extra 3/E was Ian Jones ended up a director I think,couple of juniors who I can't remember and an engieer cadet Dickie Ash.

Walllyh

Wally that 4th engineer would have been Colin Harry
regards
Willie

cymruman
19th April 2008, 08:52
Wally that 4th engineer would have been Colin Harry
regards
Willie

Afraid not as Colin Harrhy was Chief Steward on Sara Lupe when I was on my first trip ( See my gallery for pic )
There was an engineer from Barry ............... Colin Hayles , could it have been him.

Wallyh
20th April 2008, 02:52
Afraid not as Colin Harrhy was Chief Steward on Sara Lupe when I was on my first trip ( See my gallery for pic )
There was an engineer from Barry ............... Colin Hayles , could it have been him.
No it wasn't Colin Hayles sailed with him on the Cornish when he was a cadet, both Colin Harrhy Ch Stwd and Colin ???? were on the Atlantic with me and I can't remember the engineers surname for the life of me, can picture him though I expect his jet black hair has either fallen out or gone grey by now, remember his brother was a Chief with Smiths.

Janner100
21st April 2008, 20:38
it was good to meet up with Willie Davies and Clive Greenwood on Saturday night in Cardiff. As one would expect we swapped old sea dog stories. It was fitting that we met in the Holiday Inn express situated by the old docks. Then all too soon it was time for them to go.

So what did I do. well i thought a quiet night in Cardiff would be the order of the day and meet up with my colleagues in Reflex or Walkabout. So off I set and Willie dropped me close to St Mary Street and I found Reflex. The bouncer told me there was a queue to get in so I joined it. Then I noticed that only the male of the species was in the queue and women (some really quite pretty) were being let in straightaway. So when it got to my turn I questioned that this appeared discriminatory and was not allowed in at all. Thanks Reflex.

So then I bumped into one of my colleagues who had been evicted from walkabout and he asked if I was going back to the hotel. I said something to eat was the order so off we set to the Steak House for yet another bad experience when they tried to rip me off for £32 for a steak I never had(even dearer than a Kobe steak I reckon). After a brief discussion I thought well I might as well have this steak and asked for an itemised bill to see where my £32 was going to go. It came and was only £12.50 - some difference. I left with some salutation or other to the short fat bald bouncer (sorry i forgot ugly). Is it me or am I getting too old? It was never like that in my day (or was it?).

Wallyh
22nd April 2008, 09:15
Afraid not as Colin Harrhy was Chief Steward on Sara Lupe when I was on my first trip ( See my gallery for pic )
There was an engineer from Barry ............... Colin Hayles , could it have been him.

Knew I would eventually remember it was Colin Hughes was the 4th Engineer

graham w
23rd April 2008, 08:43
Ruud,do you have a photo of Quebec City in the 1920's. My father sailed on her then/Graham w

Robert Bell
23rd April 2008, 15:23
I was with RSL from 1957 until they went bust. I must say I have many happy memories and some not not so happy, but all in all they were a good company to work for. I joined Houston City as 2nd Eng. and left Tacoma City as C/E in Dec. 84.

Janner100
24th April 2008, 05:45
I was with RSL from 1957 until they went bust. I must say I have many happy memories and some not not so happy, but all in all they were a good company to work for. I joined Houston City as 2nd Eng. and left Tacoma City as C/E in Dec. 84.

Are you the famous Robbie Bell?

http://www.shipsnostalgia.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=111710

Robert Bell
29th April 2008, 15:50
I was on the Great City in 1960, robbie bell 2nd eng. a great ship. i was with rsl from 1957 to 1986. ending c/e, maybe you remember mem regards and hope you are well

Gwyn Lewis
4th May 2008, 19:02
Hi Mikes

Yes. I've still got some slides I took in Esquimalt dry dock. Quite a rip, almost length of vessel. No wonder we couldn't pump out the ballast tanks!!

Cheers
Gwyn

fishingbiker
6th May 2008, 22:08
Hi everyone.

My Dad was an engineering officer (third I think) back in the late fifties and served on the King City - Captain Dodman was his skipper and my mother remembers someone called Moji Mick. My Dad was John Bryan Smith from Cardiff. He died suddenly in 1980 aged only 45. If any of you know of him, please do drop me a line?

Regards,

Kev

http://www.teesships2.freeuk.com/06031340yearsk2.htm

newspaper writer
8th May 2008, 14:46
Hi
I am a newspaper journalist based here in Spain and I havejust spoken to the nephew of a man whose uncle was captain of the Paris City which ran aground off Torrevieja where our paper is based in 1951. If anyone has any further information on the ship, its crew and in particular the episode wheen it ran aground I would be very inteested to hear about it. The captains name was George E Duffy
I meant to add that the man I interviewed was sent a postcard showing the Paris City aground by the captain's daughter who is his cousin.

Robert Bell
6th June 2008, 19:39
I was on the Great City in March 1960 , Trevor Griffiths was c/e I was 2/e but I cant recall the other members of the engineroom staff, regards Robert Bell

David Jackson
16th June 2008, 09:57
Hi, All.

Just joined today.

In the chapel of the Mission to Seafarers (Flying Angel) here in Kobe, Japan, there's a ship's bell being used as the font, inscribed "Eastern City" & "Bideford". Nobody here has any knowledge of where it came from.

I believe it could be one of the 2 Reardon Smith "Eastern Cities" that one of you included in a fleet list, either no.3 (1941 ~62) or no.4 (1965~75). I know that at least one other wartime-built Reardon Smith ship was registered in Bideford, so my guess is that it's from no.3. Can anybody confirm this, or otherwise?

We'd like to post some info on the ship (and hopefully a photo too) on the wall next to the font.

I hope someone out there can help!

Wallyh
21st June 2008, 05:04
Hi, All.

Just joined today.

In the chapel of the Mission to Seafarers (Flying Angel) here in Kobe, Japan, there's a ship's bell being used as the font, inscribed "Eastern City" & "Bideford". Nobody here has any knowledge of where it came from.

I believe it could be one of the 2 Reardon Smith "Eastern Cities" that one of you included in a fleet list, either no.3 (1941 ~62) or no.4 (1965~75). I know that at least one other wartime-built Reardon Smith ship was registered in Bideford, so my guess is that it's from no.3. Can anybody confirm this, or otherwise?

We'd like to post some info on the ship (and hopefully a photo too) on the wall next to the font.

I hope someone out there can help!

Could be from the Eastern City/Chiyoda in the fleet from 1964 - 75, she was built as the Eastern City on the Clyde along with her sister ship the Australian City/Wilkawa, both were converted to lift on lift off car/bulk carriers in Oslo 1969/1970, the Eastern City was renamed the Chiyoda on taking up a long term charter with NYK and she kept that name until disposed of in 1975, there are some photos of her on this site along with her sister ship

Sailed on the Wilkawa but not the Chiyoda

Wally H

CAPILANO
21st June 2008, 12:37
The most probable vessel is No.(3). She was built in 1941 and remained with the fleet until 1962 when she was sold to Lebonese Owners. She is known to have been broken up in Japan in 1970.
Chiyoda could be a possibility- last known to be laid up in Stylis in 1982.
Finally, "Eastern City".(5) was sold in 1979 as "Japanas" recent history unknown.
I understand that the bell is not from the focsle head, but a bridge wing version. Was Mate on "Wilkawa" 1989/1990. When were you there, Wally?
Rgds
John Cann

Wallyh
22nd June 2008, 02:23
The most probable vessel is No.(3). She was built in 1941 and remained with the fleet until 1962 when she was sold to Lebonese Owners. She is known to have been broken up in Japan in 1970.
Chiyoda could be a possibility- last known to be laid up in Stylis in 1982.
Finally, "Eastern City".(5) was sold in 1979 as "Japanas" recent history unknown.
I understand that the bell is not from the focsle head, but a bridge wing version. Was Mate on "Wilkawa" 1989/1990. When were you there, Wally?
Rgds
John Cann

I was Third Mate on her Nov 1972 - May1973 Willie Cross was the Old Man, she wasn't my favourite ship that is for certain.

Wally H

CAPILANO
22nd June 2008, 08:22
Sorry, Wally,- got the dates wrong! I was in "Wilkawa" Oct.1969 to April 1970Agree with you- she was a real workup especially in Japan preparing the car decks and washing down after coal..When she went on charter to Anders Williamson, they offered assistance in the change over but Capt Parkhouse declined saying, "Anything you Vikings can do, we can do better"!! thus consigning us all to a life of misery!

Janner100
28th June 2008, 09:23
Capilano - how are you?

Maria Elisa 1972 - can you remember who was the 3rd mate?

Captain John Cann
Mate Evan Warmsley
2 Mate Julian York
3 Mate ??????
Radio Officer John Cowardine
Chief Steward Evan Sefton
Chief Engineer Dave Litson
2 Engineer Charlie Primrose
3 Engineer Pete Magorian
4 Engineer Frank Robinson
J4 Engineer Dave Ricketts replaced Nori Caroll
Junior Engineer Will Davis
Junior Engineer Stuart Miller
Electrician John Gardiner

CAPILANO
29th June 2008, 08:46
Janner100
Tks for the enquiry re "Maria Elisa" and I have been "scouring" my brain trying to recall who the Third Mate was!! We are now going back 36 years and I'm afraid I am not as sharp as I was!!. However, I have emailed Dave Litson in the hope that he kept a record. Will revert if he comes back to me.
Anyway, delighted to hear from you and it gives me great pleasure keeping in contact with ex shipmates.
Best wishes
John Cann

David Jackson
30th June 2008, 01:08
Could be from the Eastern City/Chiyoda in the fleet from 1964 - 75, she was built as the Eastern City on the Clyde along with her sister ship the Australian City/Wilkawa, both were converted to lift on lift off car/bulk carriers in Oslo 1969/1970, the Eastern City was renamed the Chiyoda on taking up a long term charter with NYK and she kept that name until disposed of in 1975, there are some photos of her on this site along with her sister ship

Sailed on the Wilkawa but not the Chiyoda

Wally H


Thanks, Wally!

Still finding my way round this site. I was thinking that the one I'm looking for was the 1941-built one (about which I got some info direct from Capilano), which was broken up in Japan in 1970. But she had been sold by RSL several years previously. But it seems there's a stronger possibility it was the one you suggest.

Whereabouts are the photos you mention? I see there's a gallery, but there's thousands of cargo ship photos and I have not worked out how to search by name.

Cheers, David J.

cymruman
30th June 2008, 22:00
Thanks, Wally!

Still finding my way round this site. I was thinking that the one I'm looking for was the 1941-built one (about which I got some info direct from Capilano), which was broken up in Japan in 1970. But she had been sold by RSL several years previously. But it seems there's a stronger possibility it was the one you suggest.

Whereabouts are the photos you mention? I see there's a gallery, but there's thousands of cargo ship photos and I have not worked out how to search by name.

Cheers, David J.

If you go to the gallery tab, select and then go to search and then type in Guernsey in the members box then you will be taken to his photos. There is a fine pic of the "Eastern City" amongst others there. Good luck.

Willie Davies
15th July 2008, 21:19
Capilano - how are you?

Maria Elisa 1972 - can you remember who was the 3rd mate?

Captain John Cann
Mate Evan Warmsley
2 Mate Julian York
3 Mate ??????
Radio Officer John Cowardine
Chief Steward Evan Sefton
Chief Engineer Dave Litson
2 Engineer Charlie Primrose
3 Engineer Pete Magorian
4 Engineer Frank Robinson
J4 Engineer Dave Ricketts replaced Nori Caroll
Junior Engineer Will Davis
Junior Engineer Stuart Miller
Electrician John Gardiner

DAVE
The 3rd mate was a young man called Colin ? , he was very thin and had come to RSL from Trinder Anderson? He spoke very posh as I recall - I do have a photo of him I can dig out if you want to see it.

David Edge
18th July 2008, 23:47
As I approach the golden age - Smiths were the best company I have ever worked for. Met John RS twice who personally gave me bad news (not going home} and then turned up in Japan to tell me I was (Sara Lupe)- takes some bottle!! especially when he told the Maria Elisa crew they were not.
Good Ships, good crews, good fun!!!!

CAPILANO
28th July 2008, 17:31
The mystery of the "Maria Elisa"s Third Mate!!
Now Janner100 seems to think it was Mike Gaffney, but I,m not so sure!! I had Gaffney as 2/O on one ship and I seem to recall him being a broad Yorkshire lad . Very quiet ans a man of few words!!. Which seems to dispel the chap with the "posh accent". Anyway, Willie, dig out the photo and we can all then hazzard a guess!!
Regards to all
John

lekie
4th August 2008, 22:34
All his exciting tales persuaded me to apply to Reardon Smith .Alan was a school friend in Edinburgh who I would meet at Hibernian home matches when he was home on leaveQUOTE=Janner100;135832]

Captain Danny John
Mate Dave Wooton
2 Mate Nigel Epps
3 Mate Haggis McAlmont
Radio Officer Fred Taylor
Chief Steward Bob Pierce
Chief Engineer Lenny Taylor
2 Engineer Jim Scott
3 Engineer Ian Jones
J3 Eingineer Davy Jennings
J4 Engineer Dave Ricketts
J4 Engineer Mick Seaman
Electrician Dave Grant
Eng Cadet Dave Symons
Eng Cadet RC Quaye
Deck Cadet Alex Skioch
Deck Cadet Doulas Hodgekiss
Deck Cadet D Morgan[/QUOTE]

garwatts
5th August 2008, 09:22
As I recall (and I'm not too good at it these days!) Dave Wooton was one of the most laid back persons I ever met - nothing seemed to faze him......
Another name on the crew list brings back memories of bad food and two year old Tennants lager and some incredible bad heads after drinking a couple of tins(Pint) (Pint). Still I did need to lose some weight!

snookyironites
7th August 2008, 21:51
Mike Gaffney was 3rd.mate in the first ship,CHIYODA,I sailed in with R.S.L always sick with excitement first run ashore after a couple of weeks at sea!!

snookyironites
9th August 2008, 16:37
Go to www.merchantnavy.btinternet.co.uk for crew lists R.S.L. ships for 1977.

Kasper
11th August 2008, 13:03
Capilano,

I think the third mate on the " Maria Elisa" may have been Colin Bowell.

Brgds

Janner100
12th August 2008, 07:26
All his exciting tales persuaded me to apply to Reardon Smith .Alan was a school friend in Edinburgh who I would meet at Hibernian home matches when he was home on leaveQUOTE=Janner100;135832]

Captain Danny John
Mate Dave Wooton
2 Mate Nigel Epps
3 Mate Haggis McAlmont
Radio Officer Fred Taylor
Chief Steward Bob Pierce
Chief Engineer Lenny Taylor
2 Engineer Jim Scott
3 Engineer Ian Jones
J3 Eingineer Davy Jennings
J4 Engineer Dave Ricketts
J4 Engineer Mick Seaman
Electrician Dave Grant
Eng Cadet Dave Symons
Eng Cadet RC Quaye
Deck Cadet Alex Skioch
Deck Cadet Doulas Hodgekiss
Deck Cadet D Morgan[/QUOTE]

Haggis was always a good guy to have a run ashore with as were you leckie. Do you recall the trip down to the Commores madagascar and reunion. As I rememeber you joined the Houston part trip after Alan Fisher and the electrician thompson left. In Toulon if I remember rightly. we then sailed on the Cornish City for the whole trip. The 2/E there was not my fvourite person though. Then we met up again on the Maria Elisa in San Pedro when I joined part way through the trip replacing Norrie Carroll,

Willie Davies
14th August 2008, 20:55
Capilano,

I think the third mate on the " Maria Elisa" may have been Colin Bowell.

Brgds

How is it you can remember Colin's surname when so many of us on that trip
have failed?
regards
willie Davies

CAPILANO
15th August 2008, 10:54
Seem to have stimulated quite a bit of interest and it would be great if this gentleman could identify himself to us!! This was 1972, and the name Colin Bowel doesnt ring a bell. However, he must have been a good lad to stick six months with me on "Maria Elisa"!!
Rgds
John

Trish
26th August 2008, 20:33
I was on the Great City in March 1960 , Trevor Griffiths was c/e I was 2/e but I cant recall the other members of the engineroom staff, regards Robert Bell
Hello Robby,I have been finding my way around this site and saw your post. I sailed with you on the atlantic city many years ago when i was an electrician with RSL. Hope you are keeping well, Kindest regards,Sean Cullinane

Nick859
27th August 2008, 23:02
Hi
I came across this site by accident, it is great to see the interest in RSL is alive and kicking.
I Joined the company in early 79 where I joined th Sara Lupe as a Deck Cadet with Robert Hall and Dick Eacott, a baptizm of fire, then onto the Silvia Sofia straight from the builders( talk about one extreame to the other) and left in 83 just after they sold the New Westminster City. Left Smiths to join Eastern Bulkers.
Have a few pictures of RSL ships which I will post with the crews at the time

Nick Boyce

garwatts
10th September 2008, 17:09
Nick

Its funny just seeing a name triggers memories.....Robert Hall.....I seem to recall Robert being sent up the radar mast wearing a fire fighting suit complete with helmet (big silver thing) and boy was it hot, just so the 3rd mate could get an unusual photo for his album.....:-)

timbuctou
17th September 2008, 16:44
Ahoy,
First of all, the "boss" himself as he made this all possible for this company.
The posted ORIENT CITY[3][1960?] was send to me by our member KenLin39,so all credits to him.
Hope the date of her is correct,if not, please feel free to add the exact date/details.
Name:ORIENT CITY[3]
In service 1960-1972
GT:10.300
Built in 1960 by William Doxford & Sons[Shipbuilders] Ltd.Sunderland as ORIENT CITY for Reardon Smith Line Ltd.
1972 to Sigalex Shipping Co.Ltd.-Cyprus and renamed ALEXANDER A.S.
1973 to Kie Hock Shipping[1971] Pte.Ltd.-Singapore and renamed TONG JIT
1977 to Tay Hock Gwan Enterprises Pte.-Singapore
1979 to Maldives Shipping Ltd.-Maldive Island,and renamed MALDIVE PROMOTOR.
My uncle, Philip Evans was First Officer on the Bradfyne. I have quite a bit of information if interested.

Philip

BillH
17th September 2008, 17:24
Something to look out for
From January - July 1980 the journal "Sea Breezes" serialised the history of Reardon Smith 1905-1980 by author Paul Heaton.
This was later reprinted as a booklet of 104 pages A5 sizes.
Occasionally copies appear in the second hand markets.

Bill

Nick859
21st September 2008, 21:24
Garwatts

Yes Robert was the butt of many a joke in thoughs days, because he was very young and naive.
Some of the other lads I joined with were, Steve Broderick, Mike Cox and Peter Vaughan. If anyone out there remembers them.

Were you the electrian forgive me it was a old time ago.

Guernsey
17th October 2008, 12:44
I was with RSL from 1957 until they went bust. I must say I have many happy memories and some not not so happy, but all in all they were a good company to work for. I joined Houston City as 2nd Eng. and left Tacoma City as C/E in Dec. 84.

Hi Robby, Ive just retired and now have time to browse this site. I sailed with you on the Cardiff City in 1965-66 (a 14 month epic) I was 3rd Mate.
Master Idris Williams,
Mate Colin Griffith- Jones,
2nd Mate Tim Lawson,
R/o Mathews
C/E Taylor releived by Danny Trigg
3/E Ken Green
Ch Stew, Charlie Davies
The apprentices I can remember were Mapplebeck Trott, Willly? and Bushy?
Junior Engineers Bob Day and ?
Mrs Taylor and Sandra were also on board.

Great to hear from you
Guernsey aka Richard Sumner ( although I have a feeling you called me Oscar for some reason !

Ozzie
17th October 2008, 15:23
Hello Dick
Good to hear from you after all these years...and hope you are well
I was on the Cardiff that trip you mentioned in 1965/66...but sorry while you have the officers correct you have the apprentii wrong...there were only three of us try (Jim)? Fairclough, Pete Baverstock, and first tripper Graham Mapplebeck. Fairclough left the sea straight after this trip and I never heard from him again. Pete and I stayed in Smith's for quite some time. See my posts on a couple of good photos of the Cardiff on that trip under cargo ships
Rgds(Thumb)

k stuart
11th November 2008, 13:03
Hi

Just came across this site via google.

My Dad was employed by RSL and i went on a 2 month tour with him as well as my mother and younger brother back in 1987 i think it was. I have a project i had to do for school being the trip was during school time, i was 10 at the time.

My Dad was the Skipper of the Skeena at the time, Robin Stuart.

Found my old school project and it was 1985 when i was 8.

trotterdotpom
12th November 2008, 07:35
Why not post the project if it's possible.

John T.

k stuart
15th November 2008, 15:28
Its not possible i'm afraid as it was done before PC's were around much.

J.L.M
1st December 2008, 20:54
This was a very happy ship for apprentices in 1958
J.L.M>

alan mcnally
3rd December 2008, 19:32
Ah, thanks - I had 'M' as Master or Mariner - just couldn't think what the O was for...

Maybe someone will remember this story... On one ship a blue budgie landed on the deck when we were some distance off the shore of Japan, poor thing was knackered. The crew nursed him back and named him Bruce and he was super tame, could talk Japanese and would run off after a matchstick like a dog would a stick. My father had a proper cap'n Birds Eye beard at the time and he looked pretty ridiculous with that budgie perched on his shoulder! Anyone remember of that bird? I think it was '77 and the ship was Fresno City?

i was on the fresno at the time sailing as 3rd engineer,if i remember rightly the
chief officer,john pearsall was the person that named the budgie bruce.

Dave Kirley
17th December 2008, 05:18
Well what an interesting discovery and a few good names from the past, Willie, Mike, Manolito and Tony P ( the best copper in Chipping Sodbury ! ) at least I remember sailing with during my stint from 1973 - Indian City through bankruptcy and on to CSM before finally leavng in 1991.

I used to keep in contact with quite a few of the guys but this has dwindled over the years as I travel around - I am now living in Singapore working for Gearbulk ( some of you may remember buries marks ) . I still see Jeremy Hudson regularly when he visits Singapore and Jeremy Pink - lives in Adelaide. Also Mike Martyn Johns from time to time. I bumped into Andy Morris recently in Hong Kong at a rugby game - Andy works for Lloyds there.

I have stumbled on the site quite by accident as I have been seeking info on the Reardon Smith Pension Fund.

I had this as apprentice through to the offshore days, when smiths went belly up it was taken on by Eagle Star and I have various policy schedules and letters from that era. However it was later taken on by Zurich and the trail goes cold there.

Does anyone out there have a contact or more info than me - which is not difficult ! ??

I will try and dredge up some memories and photo's if I can - meanwhile appreciate any help with the pension thing.

Dave

CAPILANO
17th December 2008, 08:45
Hi Dave
The Reardon Smith Pension Fund was passed from Eagle Star to Zurich and is presently in the hands of Windsor Life Assurance Company.
Windsor House, Telford Centre. TF3 4NB Phone:- 0845 769 7551.
Fax 0870 709 1111 www.windsor-life.com
Trust this will help.
Kind rgds
John Cann

Dave Kirley
17th December 2008, 08:56
Hi John

thanks a bunch - that gives me something to get stuck in to and hopefully get something out of in the not too distant future.

I of course remember your name well from the good old days but don't think our paths crossed - that being said I have a hard job remembering what I had for breakfast yesterday nowadays.

thanks again and as before - when I get back to singapore I will have more time and will see if I can dredge up some memories and a few pictures.

Dave

garwatts
17th December 2008, 10:31
Hi Dave

Greetings from the past. Aah memories! The days of woolly hats, tank tops and beards! Can't remember what RSL ship it was we sailed on together. Was it the Tacoma city? I asked Dana but she can't remember either, that's the trouble with getting old.
Kind regards
Garry Watts (sparks)

chadburn
17th December 2008, 10:43
Did a couple of trips on the Queen City a.k.a. the Thistlebond Queen. The events in Somalia have to be of interest to people who know R.S.L. history as one of the ships crews spent most of WW2 there after the old King City was sunk by the Q ship "Atlantis" and they were landed there, as told to me by a former crew member of her.

richaddis
17th December 2008, 18:35
Hi there,
anyone have a photo of Fresno City I think she was built as an Empire boat. I was cadet on her in 1964?

Dave Kirley
18th December 2008, 00:55
Hi Gary

great to hear from you - yes remember being with you Dana and the girls ( I think it was 2 daughters but ................ ).

It wasn't Tacoma as I was never on her and am taking a stab at Prince Rupert or Port Alberni.

I remember Jumbo Coombs was on the same vessel but thats about it at the moment - although the late and infamous John Ashley comes to mind as well, Sue - my wife not sure if you met - still keeps in contact with Jenny Ashley. I have hundreds of photos from those days which are now on disc. I am travelling now but will be back home at the weekend and it will be good to try and see what I can dredge up.


All the best for now
Dave

CAPILANO
18th December 2008, 08:29
The infamous John Ashley- dont talk about the war!! He was 2nd Mate with me. He helpfully managed to overwind the chronometer whist in B.A. on Tacoma City which had to be landed for repair and was whipped back on board as the pilot was singling up!! No satnav in those days and I did'nt relish desd reckoning all the way to Japan! Thats why I went grey at 38! Still, I hold no grudge and wonder what he's up to today.

John Gurton
18th December 2008, 10:35
Dave Kirley !
Another bell rings. We sailed on the Prince Rupert City to China I believe. Christmas Day transiting Suez, oh what Joy ! I contacted Manolito recently with photos of a party in Rotterdam doing the Chelsea Pensioners sketch- you included ! Others that trip were Joe Fitzsimmons C/E Ian Wooton C/O and Olly Lindsay as Capt. plus many more which will take time to recall, including four cadets (two from Mobil).
We went to Amoy for which we had no chart so I set about making a large scale one from what we had, Olly was quite happy with it until I put on the minefields from the Chinpacs files ! Hence the diversion to Hong Kong !
Was my last voyage with RSL, made redundant 3 weeks before sitting Masters, then it was off to Townsends for a year and Buries Markes (Gearbulk, small world hey!). Been piloting on the Medway for 20 yrs now.

garwatts
18th December 2008, 11:15
Olly Lindsay as Capt - that brings back more memories. I sailed with Olly Lindsay on the Welsh City and was in that list of people who can claim to have been sacked by Olly! (and re-instated I hasten to add) c/Eng was ex Bank Line and lived Llantwit Major (I think his name was Geoff ?), Julian Yorke was the C/O, Les McGill 3rd Eng, Bob (?) Cat Off from Liverpool (a starvation Smiths expert). I shall have to see if I have any old newsletters so that I can refresh the names in the old memory bank! I recall getting some awful hangovers drinking Tenants lager that was about two years out of date! That always amazed me cos the ship was only on her 2nd voyage, how did that beer get to be so old;-)

keithpearson
18th December 2008, 21:09
Couldn't agree more, are there any more from Smiths out there.
When were you there Janner? I am sure you were a Junior Engineer on one ship I was on but I can't remember which one, they were good days now sadly gone.

Hi there,
I was a Radio Officer on several Smiths ships between 1956 and 1961. A great company to work for having served 2 years on the Indian coast with Marconi. Keith Pearson

snookyironites
19th December 2008, 10:06
Smashing bloke,John Ashley,built a "Boat in a Bottle" for my wife when we sailed together ln the "New Westminster City". He drank the Gin from it first!!!

tunatownshipwreck
19th December 2008, 20:09
Smashing bloke,John Ashley,built a "Boat in a Bottle" for my wife when we sailed together ln the "New Westminster City". He drank the Gin from it first!!!

Very nice of him, nobody wants their boat submerged. [=P]

Jacktar1
20th December 2008, 01:20
Wishing all ex Reardon Smith's crew members a Happy Christmas & Best Wishes For 2009. (Memories of Christmas Day breakfast a/s Freemantle on board 'Atlantic City', we apprentices invited the 3rd Mate up for breakfast, no milk....so poured beer on our corn flakes ! )
Cheers......Glan(K)

Wallyh
20th December 2008, 01:34
All sorts of names coming up, sailed with Olly Lindsey & Jumbo Coombes on the Atlantic City in 1970, last heard of Olly was still around any news of Jumbo, never sailed with Ash but ended up in Llandaff College with him on more than one occasion during his many attempts at Masters and mine at Mates, glad to say we both passed the lot in the end, Capilano unfortunately Ash passed away about eight years ago, he was a good friend, his mother renown for her ability to produce Sunday dinner for an unknown number at the drop of a hat, Ash had the habit of arranging to meet everybody at the Ferry (Sadly no longer there think it was flooded out by the tidal barrage) his uncle was the landlord, for a Sunday lunchtime libation then inviting them all home for dinner.

Wally h

cymruman
20th December 2008, 08:59
Sad to hear about John Ashley, sailed with him on the "Welsh City", remember him making the ships in bottles, good to watch him doing it , shared a few bevvys with him. One of the characters.

Dave Kirley
20th December 2008, 09:03
John

good to hear from you. Roger Chugg was sparks, Gerwin - Dillon - Morris was 2/e. Yes Christmas lunch anchored in Suez canal after 30 days loading in europort and then 30 days discharging in Amoy, not quite what I had in mind when I sold the idea of a trip to sea to my wife !

Dave

CAPILANO
20th December 2008, 15:35
Garwatts
The C/E with you on the "Welsh City" from Lantwit Major was probably Geoff McBride. I seem to recall he was ex Bank Line
Rgds
Capilano

richaddis
21st December 2008, 09:30
Hi there my name is Richard Addis and sailed on the Fresno City on or around May1964. Manchester ship canal to Japan (apprentice) first trip. Anyone out there who was around then?. Does anyone have a photo of the Fresno?. Captain WS Johns. Does anyone have Richard Reardon Smith's address? or advise how to contact?
Best wishes
Richard

snookyironites
1st January 2009, 12:00
Best wishes for 2009!
Happy New Year everyone.

Jacktar1
3rd January 2009, 01:51
Any other Reardon Smith officers end up on cruise ships ?
Cheers.......Glan(K)

CAPILANO
3rd January 2009, 08:54
Not that I know of but we did have an ex Staff Captain rms "Queen Elizabeth"who ended up Master in RSL!! What a transformation that must have been

cymruman
3rd January 2009, 09:07
Definately a good move for him, who needs all that glamour. All this and wages too.

Janner100
9th January 2009, 21:43
Not that I know of but we did have an ex Staff Captain rms "Queen Elizabeth"who ended up Master in RSL!! What a transformation that must have been

Just so. A step up the career ladder by joining Smiths, I feel.

DaiSparks
24th January 2009, 20:01
Tony,
How are you ?

You are the first ex RSL that I have come across on this site, that I know.
We sailed together at least 3 times and as I type the only two ships I can remember are the Amparo and the Skeena (Hope your knees are not scarred - that will help you to put a name to my alias).
Drop me an email - daisparks@ymail.com so we can catch up offline.

:>)

DaiSparks
24th January 2009, 20:17
John,
So glad I got my money out of the pension fund (Took over a year) but my 15+ converted to 18+ years in the civil services gold plated scheme !!!!

DaiSparks

DaiSparks
25th January 2009, 12:29
Hi,
Just stumbled across this site and reading down the thread of RSL, I nearly joined the Chiyoda just after her conversion on her maiden voyage !!.
The R/O was HMS, but schedule was too tight and I joined the Vancouver City instead and initially sailed with Stan the Man.

DaiSparks(Thumb)

Jacktar1
25th January 2009, 18:03
Anyone around who sailed with Reardon Smith Line during those years in addition to Captain John Cann, 2nd Mate Anthony 'Joe' Johansen and myself ?
Cheers.....Glan(K)

Guernsey
26th January 2009, 11:50
Hi there,
anyone have a photo of Fresno City I think she was built as an Empire boat. I was cadet on her in 1964?

I sailed as apprentice on Fresno City 1963-64 and paid off in Manchester in March 1964, 2 weeks out of my time & a few days before my 21st, heady times.
I dont think the new personnel had arrived before I left. There is a photo of the Fresno City anchored off Sakaidi in the gallery
(Rick Sumner)

DOZEY
26th February 2009, 12:56
Hi folks I did my last trip as a J/E on the Tacoma City I joined her as the 2E was leaving Ian Jones was promoted 2E Dave Jennings up to 3E and Mike Seaman up to 4E that was in Cardiff or Newport south Wales for sure.
I paid off in Japan never to return (went back to my proper job ashore)
I did a trip on the Fresno City before that
I enjoyed my time with REARDON SMITHS the people made it for me.
thank you

Janner100
10th March 2009, 09:44
I am advised by Fred Taylor that Davy Grant has crossed the bar in his early sixties. I sailed with Davy and Fred on the Tacoma City.

BrianF
11th March 2009, 16:09
Hi Everyone
Just found this sight and wanted to say hello to everyone who put up with me when I had the pleasure of sailing with Smiths from '76 to '81. I served as a Deck Cadet, managed to fail my finals[=P] and came ashore for pastures new in the NHS. Talk my head off to my friends about "life at sea" never seem to do the same about the NHS though :-(

Paul Cocker
12th March 2009, 17:37
Hello to everyone who worked for the Welsh Navy as it was referred to in 1982in Glasgow Nautical College. I have just joined up to this site and have found pictures of characters I thought I would hear of or see again, Robert U Bell and Dave Symons.
If anyone reading this sailed on the Port Alberni / Victoria / Amparo / 1981-82 and then on the Lacondon / Yaqui / Olmeca /Bibi during 83-86 please post a note it would be good to chew over those happy days and that was in a recession!

Regards Paul

Captain Scarface
15th March 2009, 22:39
OJT are his initials and Olly tab nabs comes from when he was Mate and you had better ask him the origin of the saying.


I know how come he is Olly Tabnab. Who is it wants to know?
Scarface

Captain Scarface
15th March 2009, 22:45
Hi there my name is Richard Addis and sailed on the Fresno City on or around May1964. Manchester ship canal to Japan (apprentice) first trip. Anyone out there who was around then?. Does anyone have a photo of the Fresno?. Captain WS Johns. Does anyone have Richard Reardon Smith's address? or advise how to contact?
Best wishes
Richard

Send me your private email
Scarface

robb1
16th March 2009, 09:44
Does anyone have any details of the Bradavon or pictures. My grandfather, William Burn, was captain of the ship in 1920's and I'd be grateful for any information or any pointers about how I could get information.
Thanks
Rob

CAPILANO
16th March 2009, 10:04
Rob
BRADAVON (5204GT) Built 1918 by Richardson, Duck & Co.Ltd,Stocton as WAR VULTURE for the Shipping Controller.
1919 To Leeds Shipping Co.Ltd and renamed BRADAVON
1933 To Dairen Kisen K.K. Japan, renamed SHINKYO MARU
23/3/1944 Torpedoed and sunk by American submarine USS BOWFIN, East of Mindanao, Position, 05-27N 125-38E

CAPILANO
17th March 2009, 09:37
Robb1
Forgot to mention that the Leeds Shipping Co was part of Reardon Smith Line, Cardiff-now defunct. There is a photo of BRADAVON in Heatons book- Reardon Smith Line, The history of a South Wales Shippng Venture but I understand this publication is now hard to obtain.
Anyway- Good Luck with your research- I notice others have pointed you in other directions
Rgds Capilano

rad
18th March 2009, 11:53
Hi all.Re Reardon Smiths a history of a South Wales shipping venture. You may be able to get this from your local library,i borrowed a copy from mine a few weeks ago altho they had to order it. Worth a try anyway.

richaddis
18th March 2009, 18:08
Hi there Captain Scarface just picked up your message.
My email address is
richaddis@hotmail.co.uk
Any info or pictures would be gratefully received.
Kind regards
Richard

Jim Prophet
30th March 2009, 21:50
Hi all.
I actually bought and still have a copy of Heatons book of the Reardon Smith Line. If any one really wants it,highest offer secures. Mercenary I know,but life. I sailed on the Vancouver City(Twice), New Westminster City and Sara Lupe in the mid 70's. Must say they were all good and happy ships

JimP

Janner100
31st March 2009, 19:20
Found myself in Berwick on Friday and popped into see John Gardiner in his emporium. It was great to meet up with him again after 37 years (a mere blink in a lifetime). I was a tad too late to meet Robbie Bell who I believe parks his scooter outside the pub opposite the emporium while he has his morning medicine.

Sailortom
1st April 2009, 18:16
Good Evening All,

Good to hear John Cann is still around, last time I met him was relieving him as Cargo Super on the "Norbulk" chartered ships (one of Griff's ventures!)

Tom.

keithpearson
1st April 2009, 20:01
Hi to all RSL men of the sea. I was with Smiths for six years and my last ship was the Devon City. We left Poplar in February 1961 and returned home in January 1962. Having a somewhat hazy memory, is there anyone out there who can tell me which ports we visited during that prolonged voyage?

sidsal
2nd April 2009, 17:34
I have a smashing model of the WELSH CITY. A sparks who retired made models at sea and his wife made him sell them all. I paid about £60 in the 1970's I think.
The chap Heaton was a great historian - I believe he was a police super or soemthing in S Wales. Wonder if he's still alive.
I have a book of his - The "Redbrook" - a deep sea tramp". It's about a Blue Star ship - Saxon Star that was sold and a chap - David Lindsay Street ran her as a one ship tramp company. It's a really fascinating story. It was in the 60's and the book was published in 1981 by the Starling Press, Risca, Newport, Gwent.

Willie Davies
2nd April 2009, 20:20
Well what an interesting discovery and a few good names from the past, Willie, Mike, Manolito and Tony P ( the best copper in Chipping Sodbury ! ) at least I remember sailing with during my stint from 1973 - Indian City through bankruptcy and on to CSM before finally leavng in 1991.

I used to keep in contact with quite a few of the guys but this has dwindled over the years as I travel around - I am now living in Singapore working for Gearbulk ( some of you may remember buries marks ) . I still see Jeremy Hudson regularly when he visits Singapore and Jeremy Pink - lives in Adelaide. Also Mike Martyn Johns from time to time. I bumped into Andy Morris recently in Hong Kong at a rugby game - Andy works for Lloyds there.

I have stumbled on the site quite by accident as I have been seeking info on the Reardon Smith Pension Fund.

I had this as apprentice through to the offshore days, when smiths went belly up it was taken on by Eagle Star and I have various policy schedules and letters from that era. However it was later taken on by Zurich and the trail goes cold there.

Does anyone out there have a contact or more info than me - which is not difficult ! ??

I will try and dredge up some memories and photo's if I can - meanwhile appreciate any help with the pension thing.

Dave

David, nice to hear you are well, I think the last time we met was in the Mumbles yatch club at Carl's 40th birthday, drop us a line it would be great to talk to you again.
willie

Phil Trott
16th April 2009, 20:27
Hi Robby, Ive just retired and now have time to browse this site. I sailed with you on the Cardiff City in 1965-66 (a 14 month epic) I was 3rd Mate.
Master Idris Williams,
Mate Colin Griffith- Jones,
2nd Mate Tim Lawson,
R/o Mathews
C/E Taylor releived by Danny Trigg
3/E Ken Green
Ch Stew, Charlie Davies
The apprentices I can remember were Mapplebeck Trott, Willly? and Bushy?
Junior Engineers Bob Day and ?
Mrs Taylor and Sandra were also on board.

Great to hear from you
Guernsey aka Richard Sumner ( although I have a feeling you called me Oscar for some reason !
40 odd years must be playing tricks with the memory, it definitely is with mine ! but I know I was on the 'Orient' between October 65 and Oct 66 when we paid off in Gib. Never went near the 'Cardiff', how could I as a Newport boy !!
I think Guernsey must remember my name from my following trip on the 'Australian', joined in Longbeach, paid off Madras. I was certainly on it when his pictures were taken alongside the 'Eastern'in Houston. Remember Bob Day well, a Cwm ( Ebbw Vale )lad. Think I only did one trip with him but thought it was my first, on the 'Orient'.
Did one more trip with Smiths, on the 'Welsh' when I spent more time in the engine room than I did on deck helping the engineers take bits off one engine to keep the other going. Did a trip with BP on the British Merlin then got caught by the other half ( still there ) and ended up working for BT. Never forget those 4 years though.
I have been trying to buy some photographs of the 3 ships, ( nostalgia's starting to set in ) and have trawled through countless websites looking but it seems that unless you worked for Blue Flu or P&O theres no chance. If anyone knows of a source I would be gratefull if you could point me in the right direction.
Good to see the names again, Cheers, Phil Trott

Willie Davies
19th April 2009, 21:07
40 odd years must be playing tricks with the memory, it definitely is with mine ! but I know I was on the 'Orient' between October 65 and Oct 66 when we paid off in Gib. Never went near the 'Cardiff', how could I as a Newport boy !!
I think Guernsey must remember my name from my following trip on the 'Australian', joined in Longbeach, paid off Madras. I was certainly on it when his pictures were taken alongside the 'Eastern'in Houston. Remember Bob Day well, a Cwm ( Ebbw Vale )lad. Think I only did one trip with him but thought it was my first, on the 'Orient'.
Did one more trip with Smiths, on the 'Welsh' when I spent more time in the engine room than I did on deck helping the engineers take bits off one engine to keep the other going. Did a trip with BP on the British Merlin then got caught by the other half ( still there ) and ended up working for BT. Never forget those 4 years though.
I have been trying to buy some photographs of the 3 ships, ( nostalgia's starting to set in ) and have trawled through countless websites looking but it seems that unless you worked for Blue Flu or P&O theres no chance. If anyone knows of a source I would be gratefull if you could point me in the right direction.
Good to see the names again, Cheers, Phil Trott


Have you tried looking on this web site & go on the Gallery tab, scroll down and you will come to a little search box on the right hand side, type in the name Cardiff city and also Sara Lupe as she was renamed in the early 1970's and you will se several photos of her and lots of other RSL ships
regards
willie davies

Robert Bell
27th April 2009, 19:23
Hello to everyone who worked for the Welsh Navy as it was referred to in 1982in Glasgow Nautical College. I have just joined up to this site and have found pictures of characters I thought I would hear of or see again, Robert U Bell and Dave Symons.
If anyone reading this sailed on the Port Alberni / Victoria / Amparo / 1981-82 and then on the Lacondon / Yaqui / Olmeca /Bibi during 83-86 please post a note it would be good to chew over those happy days and that was in a recession!

Regards Paul
I sailed on the Port Alberni and Victoria City. Joined RSL in 1057 Left when they went bust as c;e
regards
R. U. Bell

ixion
14th May 2009, 09:09
Photo of the final days of the Tacoma City under arrest in the River Blackwater on http://www.merseamuseum.org.uk/mmshipping.php?u=0

Hopefully a photo will emerge of the Eastern Valley (ex Cardiiff City) that joined her afterwards before both were sold by the Admiralty Marshall.

garwatts
15th May 2009, 07:16
A sad end to a good company and way of life for some good mates(Sad)

Willie Davies
7th July 2009, 23:05
Hi all.
I actually bought and still have a copy of Heatons book of the Reardon Smith Line. If any one really wants it,highest offer secures. Mercenary I know,but life. I sailed on the Vancouver City(Twice), New Westminster City and Sara Lupe in the mid 70's. Must say they were all good and happy ships

JimP

Jim,
did you get that photo I sent of the trip to Kyoto from us all on the Vancouver city in april 1974
willie

Jim Prophet
11th July 2009, 21:55
Jim,
did you get that photo I sent of the trip to Kyoto from us all on the Vancouver city in april 1974
willie

Hi Willy.
Sorry it took so long to reply. Yep I got the photo,thanks a lot. I recognised a lot of the faces but alas not many names. Please help. Unfortunately I was not in the picture.
Jim

ecsvmc
13th July 2009, 19:51
Anyone around who sailed with Reardon Smith Line during those years in addition to Captain John Cann, 2nd Mate Anthony 'Joe' Johansen and myself ?
Cheers.....Glan(K)My dad Sid Williams sadly no longer with us sailed thro' the war till the fifties with Smiths cant remember the ship names but I am sure one was the Great City and another Hudson City, he sailed as a Third Eng but qualified as Chief, he was quite a character I believe that he was on the first ship into Hamburg at the and of WWII

sheringham
13th July 2009, 23:42
Hello, I have fallen over this thread which I have read with great interest and would like to add to the thread.

Whilst I never sailed with RSL! I met a number of lads at Cathays while we were up for 2M and 1M tickets in the early 60s, who subsequently found their way into RSL after serving time elsewhere, and we formed a lasting and long time friendship over 30+ years. Two in particular were John R Ashley and J? Kalnins (always known as Kal, Latvian origin, distinctive appearance with goatee beard, gold earing when it was not fashionable & little hair on his head even as a youngish man). Two characters if ever there were any!.
Both sadly now no longer with us. John passing away Oct. 2000 in Wales and Kal before that in the Gulf.
Both of my children had "Ashley ships in bottles" as he was their Godfather.

If there are any who attended Cathays college during early 63 (2M) and early 65 (1M) I would be very happy to make contact.

sidsal
14th July 2009, 21:40
I have a lovely model of the Welsh City in a glass case. It's about 3feet long - made by a R/O whose hobby was making models. He advertised several for sale in Sea Breezes, some years ago. He had just retired and his wife had given him orders to get rid of his models !! Wish I had brought more !!

Alex Baxter
13th August 2009, 21:10
Hello all, surprised to see so many names I remember. I was an engineering cadet in the early 70s Cardiff and later Glasgow. Went to sea first on the Atlantic city, then the Cornish, Maria Elisa, etc. until early 80's. My sea going career was notable in that all those years I new sailed on the (I think it was called) the 840 class. I was interviewed by Captain Birrell for the job, having thankfully been rejected by two tanker lines. Spent most of my time attempting to have the biggest bar bill..

garwatts
14th August 2009, 09:45
Spent most of my time attempting to have the biggest bar bill..
That would have been a heroic achievement(Pint) (Pint)

Hawsepipe
18th August 2009, 06:53
I served on the Paris City in March 1957,when we were shipwrecked off the
coast of Spain in the Med.Is there anyone out there who was aboard at that
time?
Cheers Hawespipe.

Alex Baxter
18th August 2009, 20:38
Ah yes, the Welsh and the Cornish had Ruston AO engines, there was even a song of sorts, AO, AO, it's off the work we go, with lots of spanners and bloody big hammers... I had a happy trip on the Cornish after she had been re-engined with an IHI Pielstick, which had a bad habit of breaking low pressure fuel pipes, and actually did one trip without breaking down, a few hours between mickey mouse ports in central america.

Alex Baxter
18th August 2009, 20:45
Did the Houston and (name escapes me) become the Maria Elisa and Sara Lupe when TMM bought them and Smiths ran them? Maria Elisa was P type Doxford with DC electrics, electricians were always worked very hard. It would have been 1971 or 72 when I was on her. Second engineer was a veritable giant of a man (Dave ..)

cymruman
19th August 2009, 06:38
Cardiff City became Sara Lupe, sister of Houston.

lekie
19th August 2009, 20:43
Sailed on Cardiff city 1969 as lekie ,Old Man Captain Tony Lightfoot later sailed on Houston City ( Marie Elisa ) Old Man Captain Johnny Cann.
Great trips and experiences, remember many problems working cargo, boy did "they" ( the stevedores) not hammer the DC winches and mangle the cargo ( cluster) lights.
I still managed to get up the road !!

Janner100
21st August 2009, 08:04
Leckie you were also on the Houston (part trip) with Flash Thomas as old man.

lekie
21st August 2009, 20:08
Thanks for reminding me about "Old Man" Flash Thomas , did this trip take us from France ( Marseille ) down to South Africa, Madagasgar and Reunion . I remember on a trip up the road in Madagasgar coming across a War Memorial to some Scottish Regiment, does this ring a bell with anyone regarding the name of the port or the reason for the memorial ?.

A.J.McMahon
21st August 2009, 20:38
lecie, I'm interested to know, what make of winch gave you the most problems? I think I sailed with most makes of British winches on various ships. In my experience Lawrence Scott came out BEST for hard working trouble free running. I would go as far to say all L.S. was top line, Did some work on some Lawrence Scott 240 D.C. generators just a few years ago Regards AJM.

lekie
21st August 2009, 21:14
It is 35 years since I came shore side and became a self employed newsagent, great memories of shipmates and breakdowns but no recollection of actual winch manufacturers , do recall spending many hours in contactor rooms carrying out routine and preventative maintainance. When working cargo I recall the noise and heat in these rooms, and also having to chase out the skiving stevedores.
Sorry this is not the answer to your question but thanks for your imput to this great forum ,as it states " Ships Nostalgia "

Janner100
22nd August 2009, 09:18
Thanks for reminding me about "Old Man" Flash Thomas , did this trip take us from France ( Marseille ) down to South Africa, Madagasgar and Reunion . I remember on a trip up the road in Madagasgar coming across a War Memorial to some Scottish Regiment, does this ring a bell with anyone regarding the name of the port or the reason for the memorial ?.

The complete voyage that trip was:
St. John, NB – ballast - Houston - bulk wheat -Oran and Mastagenem – ballast - Toulon (drydocked) - ballast - Marseilles - TIME CHARTER - Savonna - Morondava - Majunga - Mutsamudu -Moroni -Diego Svarel –Tarnatove – Revuioii - REDELIVERED – ballast - Lorenzo Marques - bulk coal -Rotterdam where we paid off.

You joined in Toulon I believe having missed the fun and games in the battle of Mostagenem.

Alan Fisher 3/E and Thompson the electrician left the voyage. Fisher was not replaced and you replaced Thompson.

Captain Tony Thomas
Mate Tom McNulty
2nd Mate Clancy Collins
3rd Mate Ringo Starr
Radio officer Andy Vost
Chief Engineer Ian Taylor
2nd Engineer Larry Williamson
3rd Engineer Alan Fisher
4th Engineer Kel Blunt
Jnr 4th John Elliot
Junior Clive Greenwood
Junior Dave Ricketts
Electrician Tom Thompson*
Deck Cadet Doug Cumming, Tony Stockman, Alan Skilton
Engineer Cadet Dave Jellyman
Chief Steward
* John Gardiner

D.C.Cumming
22nd August 2009, 23:12
Wally that 4th engineer would have been Colin Harry
regards
Willie
4th engineer was Colin Hughes, if anybody communicates with him ask him about the Indian maternity hospital and his gaping head wound?

regards

Doug Cumming

Janner100
24th August 2009, 01:35
Dougie, you will remember the battle of Mostagenem, I'm sure

Wallyh
26th August 2009, 10:23
4th engineer was Colin Hughes, if anybody communicates with him ask him about the Indian maternity hospital and his gaping head wound?

regards

Doug Cumming

Dougie

You forgot his fractured knee cap Kobe after we paid off the Atlantic in Wakayama waiting for the flight home.

Wallyh

wrighty
26th August 2009, 11:29
Hi there my name is Richard Addis and sailed on the Fresno City on or around May1964. Manchester ship canal to Japan (apprentice) first trip. Anyone out there who was around then?. Does anyone have a photo of the Fresno?. Captain WS Johns. Does anyone have Richard Reardon Smith's address? or advise how to contact?
Best wishes
Richard

hi richard i joined the fresno city in manchester on the 9th april 1964. it was actually being repaired with a damaged bow and didnt sail for about three weeks. the captain was jones, his initials were w, something, g. we sailed from manchester to galveston, texas and from there we were supposed to go to saigon with a cargo of grain but due to the war we finished up in calcutta. anyhow eventually we were paid off in uraga,japan on the 5thy nov 1964and flew home. i have some pictures somewhere of a few of the crew boarding the plane. are we on the same wavelength?

richaddis
27th August 2009, 21:31
Hi Wrighty,
I Joined the Fresno at the Brown & Polson wharf on the Manchester Ship canal on 20/03/1964 the voyage lasted until 8/11 64. (I have just found my pay sheet £15.00 pounds per month!) The Fresno, was I can remember, in dry dock at the time. The crew were all from Manchester pool. We sailed to Galveston and then on to Calcutta where we were unloaded by Indians shovelling the grain into hessian sacks, very labour intensive. we were there for about 2/3 months. We also paid off in Uraga (I see from my discharge book). The captain was D.W.G Jones. We must have sailed together. I also, (somewhere) have photos of the crew boarding a twin prop plane somewhere...I just have to look up all the old papers.
Were you deck or engine?
Look forward to hearing from you.
Meanwhile I shall try and dig up some more info.........

Richard

lekie
28th August 2009, 22:49
Hi Wrighty,
I Joined the Fresno at the Brown & Polson wharf on the Manchester Ship canal on 20/03/1964 the voyage lasted until 8/11 64. (I have just found my pay sheet £15.00 pounds per month!) The Fresno, was I can remember, in dry dock at the time. The crew were all from Manchester pool. We sailed to Galveston and then on to Calcutta where we were unloaded by Indians shovelling the grain into hessian sacks, very labour intensive. we were there for about 2/3 months. We also paid off in Uraga (I see from my discharge book). The captain was D.W.G Jones. We must have sailed together. I also, (somewhere) have photos of the crew boarding a twin prop plane somewhere...I just have to look up all the old papers.
Were you deck or engine?
Look forward to hearing from you.
Meanwhile I shall try and dig up some more info.........

Richard

Richard
The reason I joined Reardon Smith Line was my then school friend Alan McAlmont (affectionaly known as "Haggis") persuaded me that many good thing could be enjoyed as a sea going lekie. We both attended Portobello Secondary School in Edinburgh and supported Hibs.
Did you ever sail with him and do you have any knowledge of his whereabouts now ?

CAPILANO
3rd September 2009, 09:21
Regarding the query re the electric winches on the Cardiff and Houston City, if I remember rightly, they were manufactured by Sunderland Forge & Engineering works.These winches had been fitted to most of RSL motorships built on the Weir going back many years (I think with very little modification!)
They were an Apprentices dream, as they obviated "oiling steam winches" when working cargo, which transformed the surrounding deck into a Torvill & Dean skating rink!!

richaddis
24th September 2009, 13:25
Richard
The reason I joined Reardon Smith Line was my then school friend Alan McAlmont (affectionaly known as "Haggis") persuaded me that many good thing could be enjoyed as a sea going lekie. We both attended Portobello Secondary School in Edinburgh and supported Hibs.
Did you ever sail with him and do you have any knowledge of his whereabouts now ?

Hi Leckie..
I cant remember a guy called HAGGIS. What ship was he on and when?

lekie
27th September 2009, 09:52
Hi Leckie..
I cant remember a guy called HAGGIS. What ship was he on and when?

Hi Richard
Alan McAlmont was a deck cadet with RSL from 1965-1969. He went to Portobello High School in Edinburgh. The school had a nautical department situated if I remember correctly on the 7th (top) floor of the building, a first for Scotland if not the UK.
Alan was from the Leith area of Edinburgh, He had fine head of ginger hair and was as we may say without offence quite chubby.
His nickname from previous threads is shown as "haggis"
I made contact with some old RSL shipmates and the word on the street is that he may now have a senior position with Maersk Line Containers in USA.
Does this information help jog memories?

hamishb
2nd October 2009, 16:23
Hi All, Anybody in this great crew have any knowledge of the slipped crankshaft on The Orient City or was it the Welsh City? on the 760J8Doxford.
Where ,what happened , who took the video, how long for repairs , anyone from Doxfords, etc.
As a matter of interest when I was attempting to discover the history of these 2 vessels I came across a fleet list (I think by benjidog) and the final entry for Welsh City is inconclusive. I have discovered if the name Galene is entered in Marimar the history is displayed.
My confusion is caused by the label on the video being named Welsh City / Searadiance which as far as I can discover are 2 different vessels.
Any information much appreciated.
Hamish.

Alex Baxter
6th October 2009, 21:41
Hi All, Anybody in this great crew have any knowledge of the slipped crankshaft on The Orient City or was it the Welsh City? on the 760J8Doxford.
Where ,what happened , who took the video, how long for repairs , anyone from Doxfords, etc.
As a matter of interest when I was attempting to discover the history of these 2 vessels I came across a fleet list (I think by benjidog) and the final entry for Welsh City is inconclusive. I have discovered if the name Galene is entered in Marimar the history is displayed.
My confusion is caused by the label on the video being named Welsh City / Searadiance which as far as I can discover are 2 different vessels.
Any information much appreciated.
Hamish.
Hi Hamish,
I have a vague recollection of that happening on the Orient. I was on the Welsh at the same sort of time. The big hoohah at that time on the Welsh was bacteria in the lube oil. I did a double header on her, and really enjoyed myself. May have been a bit primitive for her day, but Doris the Doxford was faultless, and burnt 2/3 of the fuel that the 3rd Panamax in the company (the Eastern City, which I did not like!) The bulkers never had as much fun as the Tramps though, we spent five and a half weeks in Sydney on the Cornish due to a strike over who threw dunnage on the quay. We had 4 ships stabilisers from Japan (Kobe, I think) as well as, astonishingly, Japanese limestone going to Geelong in South Austrailia

hamishb
7th October 2009, 20:41
Hi Hamish,
I have a vague recollection of that happening on the Orient. I was on the Welsh at the same sort of time. The big hoohah at that time on the Welsh was bacteria in the lube oil. I did a double header on her, and really enjoyed myself. May have been a bit primitive for her day, but Doris the Doxford was faultless, and burnt 2/3 of the fuel that the 3rd Panamax in the company (the Eastern City, which I did not like!) The bulkers never had as much fun as the Tramps though, we spent five and a half weeks in Sydney on the Cornish due to a strike over who threw dunnage on the quay. We had 4 ships stabilisers from Japan (Kobe, I think) as well as, astonishingly, Japanese limestone going to Geelong in South Austrailia

Thanks Alex that ties it up for me,
Regards
Hamish

jrg
11th October 2009, 23:09
Sailed with RSL 19071-1977. I have only recently joined, and am working my way around the site.
GELA 1984 Honduras owners, renamed CYCLOPUS; broken up China 1986

HOUSTON CITY Broken up China 1984

Any additional information would be welcome, to complete the histories. I will post photographs later.

jrg

CARDIFF CITY 1985 renamed ALPAC OCEAN; broken up Kaohsiung 1986

MV AUSTRALIAN CITY built 1964 renamed WILKAWA
Sold 1974 renamed CHIKUMA
Broken up 1986 named MIRANDA

MV EASTERN CITY 1965 renamed CHIYODA 1970,
LUCKY TWENTY SIX 1986. Broken up in China in 1986.

MV ATLANTIC CITY 27029grt built Fairfields (Glasgow) 1967.
Sold 1976 to Liberian owners renamed ATLANTIC,
1979 Greek owners renamed OLMECA,
1980 Liberian owners renamed ORIENT CORAL.
Broken up in China in 1985.

MV INDIAN CITY 27018grt built Fairfields (Glasgow) 1967.
Sold 1977 to Greek owners renamed EASTPORT
Broken up 1987 named ALKMINI

MV WELSH CITY 10790grt built Upper Clyde Shipbuilders (Govan) 1968
Sold 1977 to Panama owners renamed JADE STAR
1992 Vietnam Sea Transport owners, renamed LONG PHU
Broken up at Alang in 1992 named LONG PHU

MV CORNISH CITY 10799grt built Upper Clyde Shipbuilders (Govan) 1969
Sold 1977 to Panama owners renamed NEPTUNE STAR,
1991 Malta owners renamed NEPTUNE STAR I,
1992 Vietnam Sea Transport owners renamed LONG KHANH.
Broken up at Alang, India in 1997.

MV VANCOUVER CITY 1970 renamed STASIA in 1979, MALE in 1987,
MALE II in 1995.
Broken up at Alang, India in 1997.

MV PRINCE RUPERT CITY built 1970
Sold 1982 Maritima Astarte SA Panama (Parent Company TMM) renamed YAQUI
Sold and renamed CHRISTINAKI Maltese owner
On February 3rd 1994 on passage from Liverpool to Vera Cruz foundered in a storm 249 miles west of Ireland

MV VICTORIA CITY 1970 renamed LACADON in 1983, SINGA SWAN in 1988, MONLIMA in 1993.
Broken up in India in 1996.

MV NEW WESTMINSTER CITY 1972 renamed KASSIA in 1983, FOX in 1986, SINGA WILRANGER in 1988, NORMAN RANGER in 1990, SINGA WILRANGER in 1992, MYOHYANG 2 in 1993, MANPOK in 1998. No further information
Broken up at Alang, India 1998

MV TACOMA CITY 1972 renamed BOUGAINVILLE in 1985, ROSEBUD in 1986, ROSALEEN M in 1989, PETALOUDA in 1991, MACFORCE in 1992,
FORCE in 1994, GOKAR in 1995, GOK in 1998. No further information.

MV PORT ALBERNI CITY 1972 renamed NORTHERN VALLEY in 1983, VITALUCK in 1985, ABDUL RAMAN S(year unknown), HAN NI(year unknown) and AN DA(year unknown).
Broken up in China in 2001.

MV CARDIFF CITY 1975 renamed EASTERN VALLEY in 1983,
EAST EXPRESS in 1985, GLYKOFILOUSSA in 1987,
SINGA WILSTREAM in 1988, LASSIA in 1992.
Broken up at Chittagong, Bangladesh in 2001.

MV DEVON CITY 1975 renamed WESTERN VALLEY in 1983,
WESTERN EXPRESS in 1985, SEAEXPRESS in 1987, RAGNHILD in 1988, NOMADIC LADY in 1989, UNISTAR in1995. No further information.

MV EASTERN CITY1976 renamed JAPANA in 1979, PIONEER JAPAN in 1982, JAPANA in 1983, BULKVOLTRI in 1987, TOSCANA in 1988,
CONSTANTINO in 1999.
Broken up at Alang, India late in 2001.

MV ORIENT CITY 1977 renamed SEA RADIANCE in 1978.
No further information.

MV WELSH CITY 1977 renamed GALENE in 1983, ALBACORE in 1993.
Broken up in China in 1999.

Rod F
19th October 2009, 21:56
I never sailed on Reardon boat, but I do recall the young Reardon (John I Think) at the medical school pub in Cardiff near the Infirmary - he had a healthy appetite for both beer and nurses. In Aden the lighter sported both a Cory and Reardom Smith flag (1960'ish) which was the around the time that a jeep was blown up in the street next to the "Red Sea Store" where we were buying Rolex watches and Yashica cameras. I don't know what the connection was between Cory and Smith.

Billieboy
20th October 2009, 10:42
I never sailed on Reardon boat, but I do recall the young Reardon (John I Think) at the medical school pub in Cardiff near the Infirmary - he had a healthy appetite for both beer and nurses. In Aden the lighter sported both a Cory and Reardom Smith flag (1960'ish) which was the around the time that a jeep was blown up in the street next to the "Red Sea Store" where we were buying Rolex watches and Yashica cameras. I don't know what the connection was between Cory and Smith.

Rod, the only connection that I can think of is the bunkers of Cory Bros fueling RSL ships. Aden was always a, "Welsh", bunker port, I think that Cory also had an agency there.

Dimple
26th October 2009, 16:27
I read some old posts of Reardon Smith ships out of Cardiff. The ship I am looking for is the SS Alness, of Smiths of Cardiff.
The posts are old, but I hope someone sees this and can help me.
Thanks
Dimple

Jacktar1
26th October 2009, 16:58
s.s. Alness, built in 1920 for the Cornborough Shipping Line Ltd and managed by Sir William Reardon Smith & Sons Ltd. Gross Tonnage: 3,683.
Sir William's daughter Elizabeth and her husband Mr D.A.Low who had since their marriage resided in South Africa, took passage home from Durban in the "Alness" in November 1923 !
The Cornborough Shipping Line was wound up in 1924 and the Alness was transferred to the Oakwin Steamship Company.
In 1926 the Alness was transferred to the St. Just Steamship Company, She was disposed of in 1933 for 8,550 pounds !
The Alness was eventually lost in 1942 as the Empire Lotus when she foundered in heavy weather on passage New York to Belfast.
This info was obtained from P.M.Heaton's book, Reardon Smith Line, The History of a South Wales Shipping Venture.
Glan