Cunard Adventurer/Ambassador

Poseidon
10th August 2005, 08:22
Hi
I am interested to see if anyone has any photos of the interiors or any not usually circulated photos of either of these sisters. There seems to be very little around concerning these ships. I know the Adventurer has found success through a long career now as Coral for Louis Cruises. There seems only basic information on the undignified end of the Ambassador.
Thanks......

Stuart
17th September 2005, 21:27
Hmmm! Not the best photo I have ever taken, but it is an uncirculated photo of the Cunard Adventurer, at least that is what it says on the back! Taken in 1977.

Rgds

Harry C
24th September 2005, 15:11
Some 35 years ago I was told that on the Cunard Ambassador a fuel leakage
started a fire in the engine room. They tried to extinguish the fire with small equipment but in no time the engine room was on fire and the ship was lost.
The same thing occured some time later on the sister ship (the Adventurer?)
Howerer they managed to close the engine room, shut off the ventilation and put carbon dioxide in it.
This story was told us to make clear that a fire on board a ship gets out of hand before you know.

Is this true and in what year did this happen?

Harry

fred henderson
24th September 2005, 17:42
On 12 September 1974 Cunard Ambassador suffered an engine room fire which spread to several decks. She was on a voyage from Port Everglades to New Orleans without passengers. Declared a constructive total loss. The hull was sold and she was converted into a sheep carrier.
Cunard Adventurer was sold to Kloster in 1977 and became "Sunward II". Sold to Epirotiki in 1991 and became "Triton".

Fred

fred henderson
24th September 2005, 21:15
The hulk of Cunard Ambassador was bought in 1975 by C Clausen D/S A/S of Copenhagen. She was towed to Landskrona to be rebuilt as a livestock carrier and moved Hamburg for completion. She was renamed Linda Clausen and entered service in 1976.
In 1980 she was sold to Lembu Shipping Corp as their Procyon and resold in 1983 to Qatar Transport & Marine Services and renamed as Raslan. On 3 July 1983 Raslan suffered a fire in the engine room control room while on a voyage from Jeddah to Singapore. She made it to Singapore on 17 July and was laid up before being scrapped at Kaohsiung the following year.

Fred

fred henderson
24th September 2005, 21:25
Hmmm! Not the best photo I have ever taken, but it is an uncirculated photo of the Cunard Adventurer, at least that is what it says on the back! Taken in 1977.

Rgds
Sorry Stuart but the ship in your photo is either Cunard Countess, or Cunard Princess. The "A" class were smaller with a very tall, bolt-upright funnel. Real ugly-ducklings in my view.

Fred

Stuart
24th September 2005, 21:59
Thanks Fred,

All I have to do now is find the Typex and correct the scawl on the back of the photo!

Rgds

Harry C
25th September 2005, 13:04
Thanks for the information Fred, thought it's not so long ago as I origianally had in mind.

Harry

Cunarder
20th October 2005, 21:21
Both my wife and I sailed on these two ships. As a consequence, we have a mountain of pics - especially of the Adventurer. My wife was on board the Ambassador when she caught fire off the Florida Keys (Laurence Portet was the Old Man at the time. We were both on board the Adventurer when she piled into the side of the Carla C in San Juan one Saturday morning - I think there's a message here - haha!

Have only just joined this site and will post a bunch of pix soon.

Alan & Pam Marsden

ruud
21st October 2005, 00:06
Ahoy Alan & Pam,

Welcome aboard this fine ship and crew, hope you will enjoy your staying here as we do, looking forward to see that "mountain of pics" posted here.(Applause)

trotterdotpom
21st October 2005, 00:23
I remember an ex Cunard cruise ship arriving at Jeddah and being startled to see sheep looking out of the accommodation windows. I almost gave up the drink!

John T.

Cunarder
21st October 2005, 00:28
That would have been the "Ambaaaaaaaasador" full of sheep. Not much different to when it was cruising in the Caribbean......

Alan Marsden

trotterdotpom
21st October 2005, 00:51
That would have been the "Ambaaaaaaaasador" full of sheep. Not much different to when it was cruising in the Caribbean......

Alan Marsden

Hi Alan, I've just sent you a PM.

By the way, how many sheep can you fit in a bubble car?

John T.

Cunarder
21st October 2005, 01:37
You can keep your Porsche Boxters - give me a Heinkel Trojan any day.....

Cunarder
24th October 2005, 09:51
1. Cunard Adventurer in Glacier Bay, Alaska, circa 1977. She sports the latter-day Cunard funnel colours as opposed to the original black/white configuration. 2. Another view with 1st Officer Ron Warwick at the helm of the crew lifeboat (scooping up icebergs for ice carvings at that night's dinner). 3. At anchor in Grenada circa '76 - note the original funnel colours.

Cunarder
25th October 2005, 11:25
I've posted few pix re the Ambassador fire in my gallery - I'll upload some more shortly.

Cheers
Alan Marsden

limeyseadog
12th March 2006, 02:40
Hmmm! Not the best photo I have ever taken, but it is an uncirculated photo of the Cunard Adventurer, at least that is what it says on the back! Taken in 1977.

Rgds

i believe that ship in the picture is either the cunard countess or princess. not the adventurer. i was an engineer on the countess in the '70s.

BrianO
8th February 2007, 20:04
i believe that ship in the picture is either the cunard countess or princess. not the adventurer. i was an engineer on the countess in the '70s.

Not so. It is Cunard Adventurer. The Countess and Princess had funnels that sloped backwards. The funnels of Adenturer and Ambassador were upright, as in the photos, but Ambassador was long gone before Cunard reintroduced their traditional funnel livery in 1976. BTW, they only extended the traditional funnel livery to QE2 in her 1982 post-Falklands refit, at which time they also introduced her short-lived "pearl grey" hull.

Derek Roger
8th February 2007, 22:14
At one time in my career with Brocks when I had indicted I may leave the company ( because I was being moved from ship to ship with Pielstick Problems and getting fed up with getting ships in poor nick ; bringing them up to speed and then being transfered to another in less than good shape ) I was offered a transfer to Cunard on the " Passenger Ships " under discussion in this thread .
I had however had a third engineer on Mahsud or Maihar who had sailed with them and said they were a disgrace in the engine room with lots of fuel leaks and oil in the bilges and no time given to correct the problems due to sailing and shedule constraints .
I declined the job as I would have probably been fired as I know I would have " rocked the boat ' to try and correct the problem . ( I must admit though that the lure to the social life was very strong )
Instead I was moved from the Moss Tanker fleet back to Maihar and Mahsud which suited me fine as they were great ships with great crews to serve on .

I was therefore not suprised when I learned of the fires they experienced .

Derek

BrianO
9th February 2007, 05:12
Not so. It is Cunard Adventurer. The Countess and Princess had funnels that sloped backwards. The funnels of Adenturer and Ambassador were upright, as in the photos, but Ambassador was long gone before Cunard reintroduced their traditional funnel livery in 1976. BTW, they only extended the traditional funnel livery to QE2 in her 1982 post-Falklands refit, at which time they also introduced her short-lived "pearl grey" hull.

Oops! The photo in the post by Stuart is indeed one of the Countess/Princess twins. The photos in Cunarder's post are of Adventurer. My mistake.

GeoffD
17th February 2007, 13:44
I was on the Ambassador the day she caught fire, working as a senior bar-keeper. We abandoned ship and were taken to Miami onboard a t2 tanker called the Tallulah if memory serves me correctly. The Ambassador was taken to Key West Navel Base after the fire was put out by US Coastguards. I later flew down to Key West to see what if anything could be salvaged. She was not a pretty site. She had a heavy list and a lot of the public rooms were gutted.. I will try and post some photos / postcards to site and i think that I have some of the maiden voyage menu cards as well.

Derek Roger
17th February 2007, 14:42
Look forward to your posts Geoff . Derek

dearev
6th January 2009, 12:26
Hi
I'm sending to the Gallery six pics of Cunard Ambassador's inaugural cruise brochure... have a look there!

Malcolm S
10th January 2009, 00:48
Hmmm! Not the best photo I have ever taken, but it is an uncirculated photo of the Cunard Adventurer, at least that is what it says on the back! Taken in 1977.

Rgds

That is either the Cunard Countess or the Cunard Princess

taan
19th May 2009, 01:10
Raslan had discharged a load of 55.000 sheep at Jeddah and was on voyage to Bangkok for a load of 2.500 cattle with a short stopover in Singapore for a docking for painting the hull. She caught fire in the engine controlroom the 3. of juli 1983 just after midday. The controlroom was sealed and the fire was extingshed after 24 hour. Temporary repair was done and she continued the voyage on one engine to Colombo to take spareparts onboard and make further repair.
After 2 dayes she continued to Singapore on one engine for major repair at Sembawang dockyard which was never completed.
The danish captain (Taan) had a creew of 70.
Raslans owner was australien, registered in Panama and not sold to Qatar.
I will try to get a picture scanned of the vessel as a cattle carrier.
Rgds Taan

roger_s
17th June 2009, 03:41
Thought I'd fill in some missing history. As the Procyon, she caught fire (engine room again) in 1981 while bunkering at Singapore. Engine room and nearby accommodation destroyed. Later towed to Hong Kong for repairs and resumed life as a sheep carrier.

Ameritron
29th January 2014, 23:11
This was me on the tiller can't remember the year
Cedric

Ameritron
29th January 2014, 23:14
Can't remember the year but the om was Peter Jackson R.I.P.
Cedric

Peter Eccleson
4th February 2014, 00:15
Cunard Adventurer finally gone for razor blades.....Louis Cruises sold her for scrap. Great career of 40 years!

Ameritron
8th March 2014, 23:49
This is the casino bar on the adventurer the casino girls with spike Milligan and the other officer I can't remember his name, the girl in yellow is Anne harney but can't remember the others.
Cedric