The Clan Is Gathering.......

Ian J. Huckin
3rd April 2009, 19:29
G'day everybody. SN has created this Forum for us, and fellow seafarers, so that we have a place to discuss anything "BOLTONS" and to help stay in touch with each other. I hope you all enjoy this place and I can see we are going to have a great time.

Here is a crew list of those Old Boltonians still kicking...I'm sure we will track down more:

Gordon Carey
Derek Chapman
Peter Charnley
Nick Chell
Simon Coate
Chris Cooke
Jim Cooper
Howard Cox
Peter Davidson
Keith Fulker
David Fullwood
Malcolm Gator
Lloyd Housley
Ian Huckin
Geoff Long
Phil Pick
Peter Sandvid
Stuart Tait
Terry Upson
Colin Wilson

Between us I am sure we have a huge inventory of stories, experiences and pictures. Let's share them......(If we make relevant posts elsewhere would it be worth including them here too?)

Best wishes all,

Ian (==D)

cubpilot
3rd April 2009, 21:16
I worked for five shipping companies and can say without any hesitation that Bolton's, even though the smallest and the ships perhaps did not have the most luxurious accomodation, was the best company for friendship and looking after their staff.
it will be good to see this community of shipmates enlarge
howard

Ian J. Huckin
4th April 2009, 18:19
Thanks to Henk Jungerius, "MARITIEM", for this info which I copied from his post #190 under Bolton Shipping Co Ltd.

Short History of Bolton Steam Shipping Co.

Bolton Steam Shipping Co. Ltd originated from 1885 when Frederick Bolton formed a partnership with Louis T. Bartholomew as Frederic Bolton & Company and ordered a steamer from J.L. Thompson & Sons, Sunderland. She was delivered in June 1885 as the RAPHAEL (1).
Followed by the REMBRANDT (1) in August 1886 and the RUBENS (1) in July 1887 and the RUYSDAEL (1) in September 1888.
The ships were used in the Tramping trades.

Two more tramp ships were delivered from J.L. Thompson & Sons n 1893 and 1894, Sunderland, the ROMNEY (1) and ROSSETTI (1).

Henry Kenneth joined as a partner in 1887 but could not get on with Louis T. Bartholomew and Frederick bought Kenneth out in 1897 and formed the Bolton Steam Shipping Company Ltd.

Another three tramp ships were delivered from J.L. Thompson & Sons, Sunderland in 1898, 1902 and 1904 ( REYNOLDS (1), RAMSAY (1) and RIBERA (1)).

The RAPHAEL (1), REMBRANDT (1), RUBENS (1) and RUYSDAEL (1) were sold to Chile in 1906 and a new tramp ship built by William Gray and Sons, West Hartlepool the RUBENS (2) joined the fleet.

Also in 1906 Frederick’s two sons Eric and Louis Hamilton were made partner.
In January a new RUYSDAEL (2) was delivered from William Gray and Sons, West Hartlepool.

By the beginning of World War 1 the company owned seven tramp ships.

In August 1914 the RUBENS (2) was captured at Hamburg.
On 27.9.1914 the RIBERA (1) was captured by the German cruiser Emden in the Indian Ocean.
The RUYSDAEL (2) was detained at a Finnish port, where she lay until November 1916, on arrival home she was sold to A.D. Axarlis, London and was torpedoed and sunk in September 1918.
In 1915 a new RIBERA (2) was delivered from William Gray and Sons, West Hartlepool, but ROMNEY (1), ROSSETTI (1) and REYNOLDS (1) were sold in 1915/1916.
Eric Bolton had been killed earlier in the war and the company went into voluntary liquidation on 12th September 1917. The RAMSAY (1) was sold to B.J. Sutherland at Newcastle and the RIBERA (2) to other British owners.

In February 1920 Frederick died and in November 1921 Louis Hamilton restarted the company with the purchase of two second hand tramps from the Shipping Controller and were renamed RUBENS (3) and RIBERA (3) and another bought from the Well Line renamed RUYSDAEL (3)
( ex BLACKWELL). A new ships was bought while building from Bartram & Sons at Sunderland and renamed RAMSAY (2).

In February 1927 a new REYNOLDS (2) was completed at R. Duncan at Port Glasgow.
She was followed by two sisters in May 1929 and March 1930 the ROMNEY (2) and RAMSAY (3).

The RUBENS (3), RUYSDAEL (3) and RAMSAY (2) were sold in 1927, 1929 and 1928 and the RIBERA (3) was laid up in 1930 and scrapped in 1931.

By the beginning of World War 2 the company owned three tramp ships.

On 9.6.1942 the RAMSAY (3) was torpedoed and sunk by German submarine in the Atlantic while in convoy ONS 100.
On 31.10.1942 the REYNOLDS (2) was torpedoed and sunk by German submarine South of Madagascar.

Two sister ships the RIBERA (4) and REMBRANDT (2) were completed in 1940 and 1941 at the Lithgows yard at Port Glasgow.
Two standard Ocean’s were managed for the Government.

The managed OCEAN VIGIL was purchased in 1946 and renamed RAMSAY (4), while a sister was purchased in 1947 and renamed RUYSDAEL (4) ( ex OCEAN WANDERER).
The managed liberty SAMCEBU was also purchased in 1947 and renamed REYNOLDS (3).
The ROMNEY (2) was sold to Greece in 1949 and was replaced by the RAPHAEL (2) (ex OCEAN VAGRANT).
The EMPIRE MARTABAN was taken on a bare boat charter from 1946 till 1951 with an option to purchase which was taken up in 1951 but immediately resold to other London owners.

New ships were built in 1952 and 1953, the RAMSAY (5) and REYNOLDS (4).

Louis Hamilton died in 1953 and was succeeded by his son Frederic B. Bolton.

The ROMANIC joined the fleet in 1954 and was chartered to Shaw, Savill and Albion.

A new company the North Yorkshire Shipping Company Ltd was started in 1954 to transport ore for BISCO and orders were placed for four ore carriers ( REDCAR, RIBBLEHEAD, RIPON and RIEVAULX).

The RIBERA (4) and REMBRANDT (2) was sold in 1955 and 1957 to Greece.
A new RUYSDAEL (5) entered service in 1957, followed by the REMBRANDT (3) in 1960 which had gas turbines engines placed right aft, this was not a great succes and the ship was sold in 1967 with considerable loss.

Te RAMSAY (5), REYNOLDS (4) and ROMANIC were sold in the early sixties and the RUYSDAEL (5) followed in 1968.

In June 1965 the company enterde the bulk trade with the delivery of the RIBERA (5) from Smiths Dock Co., Middlesbrough.
The RIBERA (5) was sold in 1973 and replaced with two new bulkers the ROSSETTI (2) and REYNOLDS (5). Also a new funnelmarking was used with the houseflag instead of a all black funnel.
A third sister ship of the two previously built ships joined the the fleet in 1976 as RUBENS (4).
However the markt collapsed and Frederic B. Bolton was forced to sell his ships.
The ROSSETTI (2) was sold in 1978 and also the REYNOLDS (5) was sold and chartered back.
However the debt was still mounting and in 1982 they were bought by Nosira Shipping (Carnival Cruises Line Group) with Carnival in turn selling them both in 1987 to the Mountleigh Group. Whilst part of the Carnival Group the Bolton Maritime Management Ltd. was set up to manage the fleets of Bolton Steamship and Nosira Shipping but these two have gone out of ship-owning soon after and by 1992 and the management company was noted in Lloyds Shipowners acting for a non related company.

Fleetlist

Name Built Builder History Tons
Raphael (1) 1885 J.L. Thompson & Sons, Sunderland 1906 sold to Chile renamed Presidente Bulnes 1,860
Rembrandt (1) 1886 J.L. Thompson & Sons, Sunderland 1906 sold to Chile renamed Presidente Prieto 1,828
Rubens (1) 1887 J.L. Thompson & Sons, Sunderland 1906 sold to Chile renamed Presidente Manuel 2,077
Ruysdael (1) 1888 J.L. Thompson & Sons, Sunderland 1906 sold to Chile renamed General Freire 2,095
Romney (1) 1893 J.L. Thompson & Sons, Sunderland 1915 sold to Transport & Trading Co., London 2,806
Rossetti (1) 1894 J.L. Thompson & Sons, Sunderland 1915 sold to Cambo Shipping Co., Cardiff 2,080
Reynolds (1) 1898 J.L. Thompson & Sons, Sunderland 1916 sold to Watts, Watts & Co. renamed Chertsey, 26.4.1917 torpedoed and sunk by German submarine. 3,264
Ramsay (1) 1902 J.L. Thompson & Sons, Sunderland 1917 sold to B.J. Sutherland renamed Caithness, 1919 sold to J. Griffiths, Cardiff. 4,318
Ribera (1) 1904 J.L. Thompson & Sons, Sunderland 27.9.1914 sunk by German cruiser Emden in Indian Ocean. 3,500
Rubens (2) 1906 Wm Gray & Co Ltd, West Hartlepool 4.8.1914 seized at Hamburg, fitted out as a blockade runner to supply the German cruiser Konigsberg, blockaded in the Rufiji River but was caught of the African coast and was scuttled by her own crew to avoid capture. 3,587
Ruysdael (2) 1912 Wm Gray & Co Ltd, West Hartlepool 1916 sold to A.D. Axarlis, London and was September 1918 torpedoed and sunk. 3,478
Ribera (2) 1915 Wm Gray & Co Ltd, West Hartlepool 1917 sold renamed Glorose 3,511
Rubens (3) 1905 D. & W. Henderson & Co Ltd., Glasgow Ex Armanistan built for Frank C. Strick, 1906 sold to Dampfschiffs Reederei Union A.G., Germany renamed Wellgunde, 1912 sold to Continentale Rhederei renamed Heimfeld, 1914 sold to Deutsche Levante Linie renamed Pera, 1919 allocated to Great Britain, 1921 sold to Bolton SS Co. renamed Rubens, 1927 sold to Greece renamed Ioannis Corcodilos, 1934 scrapped. 4,071
Ribera (3) 1907 Flensburger Schiffsbau Gesellschaft, Flensburg Ex Hanau built for Deutsch Australische DG, Hamburg, 1919 allocated to Great Britain, 1921 sold to Bolton SS Co. renamed Ribera, 1931 laid up, 1931 scrapped. 4,221
Ruysdael (3) 1907 J.L. Thompson & Sons, Sunderland Ex Blackwell, 1921 purchased from Well Line renamed Ruysdael, 1929 sold to Italy renamed Iris 4,712
Ramsay (2) 1921 Bartram & Sons Ltd., Sunderland 1929 sold to Scheepvaart Mij. Millingen, Rotterdam renamed Kerkplein, 1940 seized by Germans in service as a transport ship RO 23, 1945 recovered at Christiansand, 1945 repaired and back in service, 1947 sold to Van Ommeren renamed Ossendrecht, 1950 sold to Germany renamed Alstertor, 1953 scrapped Bremerhaven. 5,053
Reynolds (2) 1927 R. Duncan & Co., Port Glasgow 31.10.1942 torpedoed and sunk by German submarine U.504 and lost with all hands, south of Madagascar. 5,024
Romney (2) 1929 R. Duncan & Co., Port Glasgow 1949 sold to A.G. Tsavliris, Greece for scrapping renamed Granny Suzanne, but resold in 1950 to Ernst Komrowski, Bremen renamed Montan, 1954 sold to Kyrtatas Brothers renamed Antonios A. Kyrtatas, 1960 scrapped at Hamburg. 5,840
Ramsay (3) 1930 R. Duncan & Co., Port Glasgow 9.6.1942 torpedoed and sunk by German submarine U.94 while in convoy ONS100 with the loss of 40 lives. 4,855
Ribera (4) 1940 Lithgows Ltd., Port Glasgow 1955 sold to Goulandris Bros renamed Okeanis, 1959 sold to SOARMA, Italy renamed Jolanda, 1964 sold not renamed, 1971 scrapped at Split. 5,593
Rembrandt (2) 1941 Lithgows Ltd., Port Glasgow 1957 sold to Navigation Transport Co., Greece renamed Capetan Antonis, 1963 renamed Mastromitsos, 1965 sold same name, 1967 scrapped at Kaohsiung. 5,588
Ramsay (4) 1941 Permanente Metals Corp., Richmond, California Ex Ocean Vigil, 1946 purchased from British Government renamed Ramsay, 1951 sold to Cia.Nav.Maropan S.A, Panama renamed Stork, 1955 to Cia.Maritima de Nav. Conval.S.A., Panama, 1960 sold to Derna Cia.Nav, Panama renamed Roumeli, 03.02.1963 aground while leaving drydock at Gijon, 11.02.1963 refloated, 21.02.1963 beached, CTL, sold for scrap in situ. 7,111
Reynolds (3) 1944 Southeastem S.B. Corp., Savannah Ex Samcebu standard ship type Liberty, 1947 purchased from British Government renamed Reynolds, 1951 sold renamed St. Nicholas, 1956 sold to Greece renamed Panagos, 1959 sold renamed Amazon, 24.12.1963 aground near Cape Bon, bound from Italy to Buenos Aires, refloated, and broken up Spezia 1964. 7,219
Ruysdael (4) 1942 Todd-Bath Iron S.B. Corp., Portland, Maine Ex Ocean Wanderer, 1947 purchased from British Government renamed Ruysdael, 1951 sold to Kronos Cia Nav S.A., Panama renamed Santa Irene, 02.11.1962 aground Los Cabezos Shoal, 4 miles West of Tarifa, 09.11.1962 broke in two, CTL. 7,118
Raphael (2) 1942 Permanente Metals Corp., Richmond, California Ex Ocean Vagrant built British Government, ex Atlantic Vagrant 1948, 1949 purchased from Baltic Shipping Co, Newcastle renamed Raphael, 1951 sold to Cia.de Vapores S.A., Panama renamed Siram, 1961 sold to Syramar Cia.Nav.S.A., Panama renamed Syros, 1968 scrapped at Shanghai. 7,146
Empire Martaban 1944 Burntisland Shipbuilding Co. Ltd., Burntisland Ex Empire Martaban built for British Government (MOWT), 1951 purchased after finishing bare boat charter and sold to Aviation & Shipping Co, London renamed Avistone, 1959 sold to Faik Zeren, Istanbul renamed Turkiye, 1972 scrapped at Istanbul. 7,542
Ramsay (5) 1952 Smith's Dock Company, Middlesborough 1960 sold to United Oriental Steamship Co., Pakistan renamed Anisbakshi 6,273
Reynolds (4) 1953 W. Pickersgill & Sons Ltd., Sunderland 1961 sold to United Oriental Steamship Co., Pakistan renamed Imtiazbaksh, 1976 scrapped in Pakistan. 6,247
Romanic 1954 Smith's Dock Company, Middlesborough Intendend name Ruysdael, by completion chartered to Shaw, Savill & Albion as Romanic, 1961 sold to Greece renamed Plate Clipper. 6,320
Ruysdael (5) 1957 Smith's Dock Company, Middlesborough 1968 sold to Greece renamed Aristides Xilas 6,452
Rembrandt (3) 1960 Smith's Dock Company, Middlesborough 1967 sold to Greece converted into a motorship renamed Galini 8,104
Ribera (5) 1965 Smith's Dock Company, Middlesborough 1973 sold to the Ben Line Steamers renamed Benvorlich, 1976 sold to peoples Republic of China and renamed Kang Hai, 1976 owners titles China Ocean Shipping Co., 1983 owners now Shanghai Ocean Shipping Co. (COSCO -Shanghai). 18,088
Rossetti (2) 1973 Boelwerf N.V., Temse 1978 sold renamed Carefowl 17,996
Reynolds (5) 1973 Boelwerf N.V., Temse 1978 sold and chartered back, 1987 sold to Malta renamed Seaduty, 1989 sold to Greece renamed Predator, 1993 sold to Cyprus renamed Trias, 1993 sold to peoples Republic of China and renamed Gueng Shen. 18,025
Rubens (4) 1976 Boelwerf N.V., Temse 1988 sold renamed Laura C, later Ziya K, later The Med, scrapped in China. 17,996

Mainsource
Travel of the Tramps, twenty Tramp fleets Vol. I, N.L. Middlemiss, Shield Publication, 1989/1991.
Regards
Henk Jungerius

tiachapman
6th April 2009, 10:51
good work IAN in getting the / bolton site up and runing, also i thank JOAN/COLIN WILSON for the work it involved getting the /BOLTON S/S CO,reunion organized,i am sure we shall have photos and feed back from that event .chippy chapman.

tiachapman
6th April 2009, 13:20
to s/n team many thanks the BOLTON S/S FORUM TIACHAPMAN

Baltic Wal
6th April 2009, 16:18
Name missing from the list,

Ian Stockbridge, I noticed a few names I sailed with.

Ian J. Huckin
6th April 2009, 17:34
Thanks Baltic Wal for the addition, updated list follows:

Gordon Carey - Electrician
Derek Chapman - Chippy
Peter Charnley - Engineer
Nick Chell - Engineer
Simon Coate - Deck
Chris Cooke - Deck
Jim Cooper - Master
Howard Cox - Engineer
Peter Davidson - Engineer
Keith Fulker - Deck
David Fullwood - Master
Malcolm Gator - Deck
Lloyd Housley - Engineer
Ian Huckin - Engineer
Geoff Long - Deck
Phil Pick - Engineer
Peter Sandvid - Engineer
Ian Stockbridge - (Help me here please)
Stuart Tait - Engineer
Terry Upson - Deck
Colin Wilson - Deck
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If anyone would like their contact info or any notes included please let me know and I will edit them in.

O.K. let's start a topic - Tango Express and Merangue Express? That should wrinkle some foreheads!!!

It hasn't snowed for two days here...must be summer!!

Ian

Baltic Wal
8th April 2009, 10:26
Ian, I was on deck, my profile shows all the ships I sailed on.

TripleX
9th April 2009, 17:04
G'day everybody. SN has created this Forum for us, and fellow seafarers, so that we have a place to discuss anything "BOLTONS" and to help stay in touch with each other. I hope you all enjoy this place and I can see we are going to have a great time.

Here is a crew list of those Old Boltonians still kicking...I'm sure we will track down more:

Gordon Carey
Derek Chapman
Peter Charnley
Nick Chell
Simon Coate
Chris Cooke
Jim Cooper
Howard Cox
Peter Davidson
Keith Fulker
David Fullwood
Malcolm Gator
Lloyd Housley
Ian Huckin
Geoff Long
Phil Pick
Peter Sandvid
Stuart Tait
Terry Upson
Colin Wilson

Between us I am sure we have a huge inventory of stories, experiences and pictures. Let's share them......(If we make relevant posts elsewhere would it be worth including them here too?)

Best wishes all,

Ian (==D)

Suggest one or two old Boltonians review and revise their posts on CW!(Cloud)

Kev Bird
9th April 2009, 19:18
Do you remember Kev Bird and Fred Tratt (Jester)

Ian J. Huckin
9th April 2009, 21:28
Hello Kevin, I responded to one of your other posts.

Hey, was Fred that big, long armed, huge handed, gangly kid who was always happy?

Ian J. Huckin
17th April 2009, 17:47
G'day all.

Another Old Boltonian just checked in, welcome back on board Jonathan Bregazzi. He was 4/E on Reynolds when we sailed together in late '82 early '83. He is going to update his Bolton's time on this thread.

Revised "crew list" below:

Jonathan Bregazzi
Gordon Carey
Derek Chapman
Peter Charnley
Nick Chell
Simon Coate
Chris Cooke
Jim Cooper
Howard Cox
Peter Davidson
Keith Fulker
David Fullwood
Malcolm Gator
Lloyd Housley
Ian Huckin
Geoff Long
Phil Pick
Peter Sandvid
Stuart Tait
Terry Upson
Colin Wilson

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Ian

Spanner
19th April 2009, 20:27
Hello Everyone.
As promised (by Ian!) here is my quick potted history:
Joined T&J Harrison as an engineer cadet 1977 and made redundant by them in July 1981.
Joined Boltons on the Nosira Lin in August 1981 as cadet then junior engineer.
Paid off in Port Said 16th November to join the Reynolds on the 26th November 1981(what do you want leave for, you've got a job haven't you) and got home from that trip 1st May 1982. Trips after that were:-
Reynolds 13/08/82 to 20/12/82 Junior and 4th Eng
Nosira Madelaine 22/03/83 to 22/08/83 4th Eng
Reynolds 14/11/83 to 11/4/84 4th Eng
Nosira Sharon 14/7/84 to 6/12/84 4th Eng

After that I sat my Second Engineers ticket and was due to join the Reynolds again in Australia when I got a job with the Isle of Man Steam Packet as a 3rd and, shortly after 2nd Engineer.
I left the Merchant Navy in 1988 and changed careers joining Manx Airlines as a First Officer flying Shorts SD360 from the Isle of Man.
I'm now a Captain flying for Flybe, based in Manchester and flying Embraer 195 type aircraft (twin jets, 118 seats) to Europe.
Great to see some familiar names from the past and some familiar faces on the reunion photo.
All the best.
Jonathan

Ian J. Huckin
20th April 2009, 17:48
Jon,

Who was the J/E we had on board at that time...I remember he was up to party anytime but left at the same time as I did.

I visited with him in Southampton and he was jacking it in.

I wonder if Rubens ever picked up all the spares we left for them up in the Lakes or if they are still there!!!!

Ian

Spanner
20th April 2009, 19:54
I think his name was Tony Herbert, known as 'the shrubber' as in Roger the Shrubber from Monty Python, for reasons that I've long forgotten. I last heard of him as 2/e on what looked like a very sophisticated oil support vessel that had moored in Douglas harbour though I didn't get to meet him after my time in Boltons.
He was from Cleveland in the North East I think. As I remember he was a pretty switched on chap.
Do you remember the 'lecky' (in his case something of a misnomer) on that trip who disconnected his bench grinder with a pair of tinsnips when there was still juice on it?

Cheers.
Jon

nomad21
21st April 2009, 01:19
I did my 1st trip to sea as deck boy, maiden voyage of the Rievaulx Jan 1958.
Davey Caton(Thumb)

jimtar17
21st April 2009, 02:08
Iron Ore Carrier Ribblehead
Does anyone remember the iron ore carrier Ribblehead of the Bolton Steamship Co. I sailed on her 1960/61. good ship , good crew .
There was a tragedy that occured on a trip to Port Elizabeth . one of the ABs fell from the upper deck onto the hatch below . good shipmate , his name was Ronnie Coleman . We couldnt do anything for him .He died on Christmas Day and we had to bury him at sea . of course that cancelled out Christmas celebrations . all the crew turned out to pay their respects . Thankfully that was the only serious bad experience in my 10 years at sea.
Does anyone remember Ronnie . from Merseyside and would be in his early 20s
Cheers to all from Jim Parker

Ian J. Huckin
21st April 2009, 17:49
I did my 1st trip to sea as deck boy, maiden voyage of the Rievaulx Jan 1958.
Davey Caton(Thumb)

G'day davey,

You are on the list.

My first trip to sea was also on Rievaulx...22Jul70.

It would be of interest to us all here if you can remember any of your ship mates names and, of course, photos would be great.

Tell us some of your stories etc

Best wishes,

Ian(POP)

Ian J. Huckin
21st April 2009, 17:51
Davey,

Pic of Rievaulx

Ian

Ian J. Huckin
21st April 2009, 17:54
Iron Ore Carrier Ribblehead
Does anyone remember the iron ore carrier Ribblehead of the Bolton Steamship Co. I sailed on her 1960/61. good ship , good crew ......Cheers to all from Jim Parker

G'day Jim,

Your on the list.

I sailed Ribblehead a couple of times in '71. Bit of a workhorse but always a great crew.

I heard about the accident you refer to though nobody really knew the true story. Thank you.

Tell us your stories and list any shipmates you can remember.

Thanks,

Ian

Ian J. Huckin
21st April 2009, 18:06
I think his name was Tony Herbert, known as 'the shrubber' as in Roger the Shrubber from Monty Python, for reasons that I've long forgotten. I last heard of him as 2/e on what looked like a very sophisticated oil support vessel that had moored in Douglas harbour though I didn't get to meet him after my time in Boltons.
He was from Cleveland in the North East I think. As I remember he was a pretty switched on chap.
Do you remember the 'lecky' (in his case something of a misnomer) on that trip who disconnected his bench grinder with a pair of tinsnips when there was still juice on it?

Cheers.
Jon

Jon,

You nailed it, yup "Shrubber" had some good runs ashore with him up da Lakes. A very good engineer with great prospects at the time. Never heard from him after about '82

Cannot remember the leckie. Keith (?) and Peter (?) "Pig-Pen" were two long serving Bolton leckies but I just cannot remember. Maybe Sammy does but I am not sure if he posts here.

I'm trying to get all my ship photos sent up here so I can scan and attach. I have hundreds of Boltons pics. let you know when it happens. Take it easy......

Ian

Ian J. Huckin
21st April 2009, 18:09
Hello all.

Davey Canton and Jim Parker just "signed on" Ore carrier men from late 50s and early 60s.

Revised "crew list" below:

Kevin Bird - Catering
Jonathan Bregazzi - Engineer
Davey Canton - Deck
Gordon Carey - Electrician
Derek Chapman - Chippy
Peter Charnley - Engineer
Nick Chell - Engineer
Simon Coate - Deck
Chris Cooke - Deck
Jim Cooper - Master
Howard Cox - Engineer
Peter Davidson - Engineer
Keith Fulker - Deck
David Fullwood - Master
Malcolm Gator - Deck
Lloyd Housley - Engineer
Ian Huckin - Engineer
Geoff Long - Deck
Jim Parker - Deck
Phil Pick - Engineer
Peter Sandvid - Engineer
Ian Stockbridge - (Help me here please)
Stuart Tait - Engineer
Terry Upson - Deck
Colin Wilson - Deck

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Ian

jimtar17
21st April 2009, 21:13
Hello all.

Davey Canton and Jim Parker just "signed on" Ore carrier men from late 50s and early 60s.

Revised "crew list" below:

Kevin Bird - Catering
Jonathan Bregazzi - Engineer
Davey Canton - Deck
Gordon Carey - Electrician
Derek Chapman - Chippy
Peter Charnley - Engineer
Nick Chell - Engineer
Simon Coate - Deck
Chris Cooke - Deck
Jim Cooper - Master
Howard Cox - Engineer
Peter Davidson - Engineer
Keith Fulker - Deck
David Fullwood - Master
Malcolm Gator - Deck
Lloyd Housley - Engineer
Ian Huckin - Engineer
Geoff Long - Deck
Jim Parker - (Help me here please)
Phil Pick - Engineer
Peter Sandvid - Engineer
Ian Stockbridge - (Help me here please)
Stuart Tait - Engineer
Terry Upson - Deck
Colin Wilson - Deck

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Ian

Cheers Ian
I sailed as AB on the Ribblehead
Jim Parker

Ian J. Huckin
21st April 2009, 21:39
Thanks Jim.

See anybody you know?

nomad21
23rd April 2009, 01:55
Hi Ian
You spelled my name wrong!!! its Davey Caton no N in the middle. not that anyone would know me.(K)

Spanner
23rd April 2009, 10:29
Ian.
The lecky I'm thinking of was called Jack, an older chap from London. I sailed with Keith Rowe who was lecky on the Nosira Lin.
I was on the Nosira Lin when the rudder pintle bearing shattered going into Sept Isles; a big bang and a few 'what the **** was that' looks in the control room.
Next trip,I was on the Reynolds when we got hit by the 'Finn Forest' while coming down the Seine, more WTFWT looks!

Baltic Wal
23rd April 2009, 13:25
Ian,

Further to an earlier post, I was on deck.

Ribblehead Apprentice Aug 1959-March 1960
Romanic Apprentice May 1960-January 1961
Rievaulx Apprentice February 1961- October 1961
Ruysdael Apprentice October 1961-April 1962
Rievaulx Apprentice May 1961- November 1962
Ripon Apprentice January 1963-March 1963
Rembrandt 3rd Mate October 1963-December

Salary slips for the Romanic I have are confusing as we spent a lot of time waiting and not on articles. Seamens strike in Liverpool and laid up a bit in Glasgow. Seemed to get paid run money in addition to normal pay 6/4p per day and overtime 2/- per hour.

Ian

Ian J. Huckin
23rd April 2009, 18:10
Hi Ian
You spelled my name wrong!!! its Davey Caton no N in the middle. not that anyone would know me.(K)

Ooops! Sorry Davey. List corrected and SN I.D.s added:


Revised "crew list" below:

Kevin Bird - Catering - Kev Bird
Jonathan Bregazzi - Engineer - Spanner
Davey Caton - Deck - nomad21
Gordon Carey - Electrician
Derek Chapman - Chippy - tiachapman
Peter Charnley - Engineer - P. Charnley
Nick Chell - Engineer
Simon Coate - Deck - Simon C
Chris Cooke - Deck
Jim Cooper - Master
Howard Cox - Engineer - cubpilot
Peter Davidson - Engineer
Keith Fulker - Deck
David Fullwood - Master
Malcolm Gator - Deck
Lloyd Housley - Engineer - Lloyd Housley
Ian Huckin - Engineer - Ian J. Huckin
Geoff Long - Deck
Jim Parker - Deck - jimtar17
Phil Pick - Engineer
Peter Sandvid - Engineer
Ian Stockbridge - Deck - Baltic Wal
Stuart Tait - Engineer
Terry Upson - Deck
Colin Wilson - Deck

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Best wishes all,

Ian

Ian J. Huckin
23rd April 2009, 18:33
Ian.
The lecky I'm thinking of was called Jack, an older chap from London. I sailed with Keith Rowe who was lecky on the Nosira Lin.
I was on the Nosira Lin when the rudder pintle bearing shattered going into Sept Isles; a big bang and a few 'what the **** was that' looks in the control room.
Next trip,I was on the Reynolds when we got hit by the 'Finn Forest' while coming down the Seine, more WTFWT looks!

O.K. Jon, I have it now...he was a right plonker...Last night I awoke and remembered it was Keith Rowe and Dick Ballantine who were the leckies I sailed with most.

Keith, Richard Avenin (Mate) and myself shared digs up in Sunderland when standing by the Nosira new buildings. We started brewing our own beer. Man, I got so hammered one day I was as sick as I have ever been. The last thing I remember of that night was leaving a restaurant and I leaned over a table of about six people to tell the daughter, I guess, how good she looked. Well, when I leaned forward I just kept going and collapsed on their table, wine and food everywhere. It all went very dim after that!!!!!

Check out "Billy1963" he was on Reynolds when in collision with Finn Forest too.

Back to you later about your pintle bearing experience....

Ian

Ian J. Huckin
24th April 2009, 17:26
Check out "Billy1963" he was on Reynolds when in collision with Finn Forest too.

Back to you later about your pintle bearing experience....

Ian

Jon, I just started a thread called "Your best repair at sea" check it out....(Thumb)

Lloyd Housley
25th April 2009, 12:07
Remember the ore carrier saloons? My first trip was for 6 weeks during the college summer holidays and we (my fellow cadet Pete Foreman and I) were sent to join the Ribblehead in Cardif. We arrived in time for lunch and were allocated our places at the after end of the 'Engineers table' on the starboard side. The port side table being for the Mates and the small centre table was reserved for the 'Famous Four' (Skipper, Chief, C/O and 2/E).
A year later and we were assigned to Redcar for more vacational training and again arrived in time for lunch. By now, being old hands, we knew that the Officers Smoke Room was the place to introduce ourselves and get a (free?) pre-lunch pint in the process. This time instead of the usual Sparkie serving behind the bar there was a Leading Steward from Blythe. I forget his name but he spoke incomprehensible geordie through a huge black handlebar moustache whilst serving and regaling the assembly with much wit and repartie. Come time to wander through to eat he whispered to us "Yours is the little table in the centre boys"
Now everyone loves to help a cadet get himself into bother through his own inexperience and stupidity but not us boys... oh no. I smelled a rat straight away and said to Pete as we scudded up the alleyway to be first in.
"That little Geordie bugger is trying to get us into the doodoo first day here, fancy thinking we'd fall for that old trick!!"
So we duly sat starboard table aft as per Rubbleheap a year previously and were almost immediatelt turfed out of our seats by the irate Chief and Second, who's seats we were in, to go sit at the central Cadets table!!(Cloud)

Spanner
25th April 2009, 15:03
Hi Ian.
Couldn't find the 'Your best repair at sea' thread. In my case, I think it was my suitcase handle though I was involved in replumbing one of the Main Engine purifiers to handle the worst gas oil I've ever seen. It was on the Nosira Sharon and we'd bunkered in Phily. The poor gas oil purifier wouldn't last more than 5 minutes before waxing up.

Ian J. Huckin
25th April 2009, 18:10
Remember the ore carrier saloons?

Hello Lloyd.

The Ore Carrier saloons were pretty special were'nt they? how nice the engraved glass doors at the entrance were. I had to sit right aft as App., the unemployed sat right up fwd.

I seem to remember the bars better. Did they have the beer dispensers when you started? You were a year ahead of me and they were gone by the time I got onboard. I do remember being on Ribblehead over Christmas one year in the N. Atlantic when a "spare" barrel of beer broke loose and we could not get a hold of it.

Ship was throwing around all over and the barrel demolished most of the furniture in the bar then went out the door across the alleyway and into the seconds cabin. I think we lashed it down in there while he was still in his bunk.

Talking apprentices, what ever happened to Graham Skinner, and keep it polite :-) I remember he once located a really remote and awkward to reach valve in a generator fuel line and shut it. He was 3/E and when the gen could not be started he thrust himself to the front and "found" the closed valve and saved the day....no comment.

Ian J. Huckin
25th April 2009, 18:22
Hi Ian.
Couldn't find the 'Your best repair at sea' thread.

Hello Jon,

Have not started it yet as I want to attach some pics and I am working on getting a scanner. Over here in Kodiak we have very few shops and prices are stupidly high. There is a Walmart though and I will go check out there for one.

Re: waxy D.O. - had a similar instance when 2/E on the Reynolds after bunkering in Commie China. Should have known we were in for trouble when I saw the drip drip drip from the filling line in the purifier cleaning tank had formed a stalagmite of wax on the bottom of the tank!

Trouble is the wax has a high calorific value so, when in suspension, is good, but when it precipitates out........kept all the D.O. as hot as we could and purified it at about 50 deg C and re-circed the day tank.

Minimal problems really but was concerned for M.E. as when stopped on D.O. could not trace heat the fuel lines with T.F. due to all the leaks.

Hey, you know what it is like....it all really does work out in the end (imshallah!)(Thumb)

Baltic Wal
25th April 2009, 18:53
Lloyd,

Things must have changed, although I cannot vouch for the Redcar, on the other three there was no such thing as a bar, and for an apprentice to be given beer was unthinkable. The only time we were allowed to buy alcohol was a bottle of spirits to take home.

There were two officers smoke rooms, midships for the deck and aft for the engineers. the midsgips was next to the apprentices cabin and was too small for the bar. The engineers was in different places aft and on the Ribblehead was on the top deck, on the Rievaulx this was the Chief Engineers cabin.

We always eat on the port table with the 2nd & 3rd Mates and the 2 Sparkies. This was before the days of Engineer Cadets.

Lloyd Housley
25th April 2009, 23:29
Lloyd,

Things must have changed, although I cannot vouch for the Redcar, on the other three there was no such thing as a bar, and for an apprentice to be given beer was unthinkable. The only time we were allowed to buy alcohol was a bottle of spirits to take home.

There were two officers smoke rooms, midships for the deck and aft for the engineers. the midsgips was next to the apprentices cabin and was too small for the bar. The engineers was in different places aft and on the Ribblehead was on the top deck, on the Rievaulx this was the Chief Engineers cabin.

We always eat on the port table with the 2nd & 3rd Mates and the 2 Sparkies. This was before the days of Engineer Cadets.
Hi Baltic Wal, well thank goodness things had changed when I got there!! On all four old smokers the Aft Smoke Room was really the Engineers Bar since that's where they all lived (or at least that's what we all thought at the time!). Up midships you could hardly hear the heart beat and could almost believe you were on a desert island, whereas down aft you could almost believe you were living next to a pub. Yes Ian, I also witnessed a keg do the rounds of demolition as did the cat who tried to chase it all around the bar but jump to safety whenever it looked like being steam rollered.

By the time I got there (1967) apprentices were welcome in the bar provided they didn't spend more than a 1 per day (DD was approx. 5d per pint (surely not!!)

Thanks Ian, by the way, for the picture of Rievaulx saloon which looks lots smaller than I remember but very smart nonetheless.

Ian J. Huckin
26th April 2009, 00:39
(DD was approx. 5d per pint (surely not!!)

Hey Lloyd,

With DD at 5d a pint do you realize it took being on an old Ore-Carrier to be as close to paradise as we would ever get?

We were trying to remember the name of a third mate some time back, it came to me in a nightmare not so long ago....Dave Spellman....or "Spellbound" I seem to remember he could only play Alice's Restaurant on his guitar.

Another thing Lloyd, do you remember Rievaulx June 1972 when we had my 21st birthday alongside in MicMac (Murmansk) I'm sure you do, I was on your watch as App. and you kicked me out to go have my party. Also there was Sammy, Peggy, Taff and the M'bro Chief Steward Alan ? I think Anglepoise was old man and 2/E was the guy with glasses like bottle bottoms. Thomas Oliver James Alphonso Gibson was, I think, 3/E You would have been 4/E Them Ore Carriers seem to blend together a bit.

I was told "you pay for the beer 'till the sun goes down" Me not knowing that at that time of year in MicMac the sun does not go down. That was an expensive three days until we sailed,

Best wishes chum,

Ian

Ian J. Huckin
26th April 2009, 02:50
...
There were two officers smoke rooms, midships for the deck and aft for the engineers. the midsgips was next to the apprentices cabin and was too small for the bar.

I remember that Mid-Ships Smoke room now. On the Rievaulx it was outbd stbd and had a library. Just aft of it was a crapper and down a deck to the tunnel. To the port side of the Apps Cabin was the 2/O's cabin because I remember a great 2/O called Charlie Ingham, me and Tiny (Geordie app. Graham Tate) used to listen to him bang his wife when we hit U.K. ports (Sorry Charlie)

Lloyd mentioned the smell of the mid-ship "thunderbox" did it strike you as un usual??? I remember N. Atlantic it would roar and pump back undescribable odors......Then, going aft the ever increasing heat, noise and smell of the engine room....always have been drawn to that....amongst other things!!!!!

Baltic Wal
26th April 2009, 09:41
Next to the crapper was the was room, where we had the Hoover Tanglemaster, where everything came out in a knot. Also the Apprentices study opposite the 2nd Mates cabin.

The only time it smelt like a brewery midships was when the Chief Steward was watering down the rum syrup.

Lloyd Housley
26th April 2009, 11:10
Hey Lloyd,

With DD at 5d a pint do you realize it took being on an old Ore-Carrier to be as close to paradise as we would ever get?

We were trying to remember the name of a third mate some time back, it came to me in a nightmare not so long ago....Dave Spellman....or "Spellbound" I seem to remember he could only play Alice's Restaurant on his guitar.

Another thing Lloyd, do you remember Rievaulx June 1972 when we had my 21st birthday alongside in MicMac (Murmansk) I'm sure you do, I was on your watch as App. and you kicked me out to go have my party. Also there was Sammy, Peggy, Taff and the M'bro Chief Steward Alan ? I think Anglepoise was old man and 2/E was the guy with glasses like bottle bottoms. Thomas Oliver James Alphonso Gibson was, I think, 3/E You would have been 4/E Them Ore Carriers seem to blend together a bit.

I was told "you pay for the beer 'till the sun goes down" Me not knowing that at that time of year in MicMac the sun does not go down. That was an expensive three days until we sailed,

Best wishes chum,

Ian
Haha yes I remember that do and all the folk you mention. I came off watch in time to see you open your bottle of shampoo, the cork flying out, hitting the deckhead and bouncing back down on your head with such a force that you fell over much to the raucous delight of the assembled well wishers.
Midnight in Mipmac eh? First trip I ever did there we had to strap the 3 bar fire from the Old Man's cabin to the radar gearbox to thaw it out and get it running before we could leave!

Best wishes to you mate, damn fine days eh.

Lloyd

Lloyd Housley
26th April 2009, 11:22
I remember that Mid-Ships Smoke room now. On the Rievaulx it was outbd stbd and had a library. Just aft of it was a crapper and down a deck to the tunnel. To the port side of the Apps Cabin was the 2/O's cabin because I remember a great 2/O called Charlie Ingham, me and Tiny (Geordie app. Graham Tate) used to listen to him bang his wife when we hit U.K. ports (Sorry Charlie)

Lloyd mentioned the smell of the mid-ship "thunderbox" did it strike you as un usual??? I remember N. Atlantic it would roar and pump back undescribable odors......Then, going aft the ever increasing heat, noise and smell of the engine room....always have been drawn to that....amongst other things!!!!!
Oh yes, I remember Charlie, big smiley guy, blonde hair? West country? Any way I can see his face now and I haven't thought of him for nearly 40 years. We had a professional 3rd on Rubbleheap I think, a Glaswegian called Dougie who'a blue boiler suit could stand in a corner on it's own I swear. In port when his wife was aboard he used to go up to the bridge for an old chart "Tae mak wee joints wie" every day before smokoe and rumour had it that it was for banging his wife through so he didn't have to take off the manky boilie!!

Ian J. Huckin
26th April 2009, 11:30
[QUOTE=Lloyd Housley;315966]Oh yes, I remember ......./QUOTE]

Lloyd, old friend, old brother old pal.....tell us all about your parrot on the Ribera hmmmmmmm??

I was not there but the story is strong and proud....... Actually I believe there were two....George and Albert???......(==D)

Lloyd Housley
26th April 2009, 12:11
[QUOTE=Lloyd Housley;315966]Oh yes, I remember ......./QUOTE]

Lloyd, old friend, old brother old pal.....tell us all about your parrot on the Ribera hmmmmmmm??

I was not there but the story is strong and proud....... Actually I believe there were two....George and Albert???......(==D)
Ian,
Fred and Albert they were. Mine was Albert and Ian Ferrier 4/E was Fred's 'dad'. It was Fred who was the real character of the two and there are several stories really. The one you may be refering to was in Ribera at Osaka IHH(?) drydock where we were made our local a small bar in a nearby district called Diumbashi (probably spelled wrong). It wasn't a girlie bar (had we turned gay?) no, we were in dry dock for the long haul so found a cost effective local that could be a base for occasional forrays to the aforesaid. The lassies behind the bar were lovely and got to hear about the parrots and wanted to see them.
So one evening off we set from the yard on our 'borrowed' bicycles with Fred sitting on the handle bars shouting and bawling at all and sundry and singing "Juanita" at the top of his voice.
He was an instant success in the bar, running up and down on the bar top singing and shouting between sips from all the glasses he passed. The girls were tickled pink and the more they laughed the more Fred performed.
After a couple or three a few of us went off to explore only to return a couple of hours later to a very quiet local.
"Where's Fred?"
Ian just lifted the side of his jacket to reveal poor Fred slumped across his knees in time honoured Jolly Jack fashion, pissed out of his skull!!
So this time on the way back instead of announcing his arrival from the handlebars he swayed gently from side to side dangling from them in a plastic carrier bag as we peddled back to the ship.
The poor wee soul's hang over lasted for two days and he just sat silently in his cage glowering at everyone like a chief engineer with a sore head. No-one dared make too much noise for him as we'd all been there.

Ian J. Huckin
26th April 2009, 12:52
Haha yes I remember that do and all the folk you mention. I came off watch in time to see you open your bottle of shampoo, the cork flying out, hitting the deckhead and bouncing back down on your head with such a force that you fell over much to the raucous delight of the assembled well wishers.
Lloyd

God Damnit Lloyd I still have the headache, or one very similar!!!

I am waiting for my daughter back in Wisconsin to send my pics through...I have one of you with your arm through the "ramp hole" where the LB Doxford top piston CW hose ramp thrashed back and fwds lookin' like you were getting chewed up...funny...Also one really good one of you, Trevor Kenny, Taff, an unremembered J/E and a donkey man wrapped in burlap down inside an LB Doxford liner....sweet. You don't see a lot of that nowadays do yer?????

Hey, just for shits and giggles this is me just minutes before I set of from our ranch in North Central Wisconsin to drive up here....3877 miles in five days. Fantastic adventure....

Next time I am in U.K. you had better get me drunked up O.K.???

Hey is it true that One of Tim Boltons family who was hitching a ride back to Europe on one of our ships called you Shorty because he was taller than you and you must have been all of 6' 2" ++++ back then???

Like the song...."oh happy day...."

Ian J. Huckin
26th April 2009, 13:12
[QUOTE=Ian J. Huckin;315969]
Ian,
Fred and Albert they were. Mine was Albert and Ian Ferrier 4/E was Fred's 'dad'. .

God damnit Lloyd, that is funnier that **** because I know how "Pythonesque" you are. As in "I say old chap you cannot arrest him, he is a British object!" do you remember that??

Anyhoooooo....who was the guy you hung with that had one leg way shorter than the other? was that Ian F? and if so is it true he was 3/E and killed when a missile hit his cabin on some ship during the Bangladeshi war (during 70s)

Jeez Lloyd do you realize how boring life is nowadays?? we absolutely had it made...it was fun, it was freaky, it was la danjerooooo and it was pretty cheap as well.

Thank God I was a Seaman, it is all that keeps me sane nowadays in a world of grey people....I really am writing a book about my life. Well into it but confused how to thread it together. You know, It means a bunch to me, and you and other guys would get inside it too, but those MFers that stagnate our world today would not even understand the first inst. of it...you know what I mean?

Well, I'm sucking down pretty far into my Brandy right now so better call it quits.

Lloyd, I am going to laugh my cods of when I see you, I am still young and virile but you must be so old by now...(==D) Joking...old pal...

Lloyd Housley
26th April 2009, 14:02
God Damnit Lloyd I still have the headache, or one very similar!!!

I am waiting for my daughter back in Wisconsin to send my pics through...I have one of you with your arm through the "ramp hole" where the LB Doxford top piston CW hose ramp thrashed back and fwds lookin' like you were getting chewed up...funny...Also one really good one of you, Trevor Kenny, Taff, an unremembered J/E and a donkey man wrapped in burlap down inside an LB Doxford liner....sweet. You don't see a lot of that nowadays do yer?????

Hey, just for shits and giggles this is me just minutes before I set of from our ranch in North Central Wisconsin to drive up here....3877 miles in five days. Fantastic adventure....

Next time I am in U.K. you had better get me drunked up O.K.???

Hey is it true that One of Tim Boltons family who was hitching a ride back to Europe on one of our ships called you Shorty because he was taller than you and you must have been all of 6' 2" ++++ back then???

Like the song...."oh happy day...."
Ian,
I'm really looking forward to seeing those pictures as I have very few really (divorce takes more away than wealth!).
It was either Charlie Bolton or 'Red Buses' Anson (a director's son I think). Both were great lads and fell into the JJ way of life with great relish after their serious upbringing. They were both tall lads and equally liable to calling me Shorty.
It's 1300 here so not really time to go to the pension exchange yet but I'll be along for a gargle before the day is out.
Catch you later, enjoy your brandy (the only tipple to give me a hang over by the way).

Lloyd

Ian J. Huckin
26th April 2009, 14:27
Catch you later, enjoy your brandy (the only tipple to give me a hang over by the way).

Lloyd

Lloyd,

I understood the deffinition of a hangover is what you saw looking at a girl, from behind, sitting on a bar stool in Duluth.....!! ain't life grand???

Lloyd Housley
27th April 2009, 10:56
[QUOTE=Lloyd Housley;315988]

God damnit Lloyd, that is funnier that **** because I know how "Pythonesque" you are. As in "I say old chap you cannot arrest him, he is a British object!" do you remember that??

Anyhoooooo....who was the guy you hung with that had one leg way shorter than the other? was that Ian F? and if so is it true he was 3/E and killed when a missile hit his cabin on some ship during the Bangladeshi war (during 70s)

Jeez Lloyd do you realize how boring life is nowadays?? we absolutely had it made...it was fun, it was freaky, it was la danjerooooo and it was pretty cheap as well.

Thank God I was a Seaman, it is all that keeps me sane nowadays in a world of grey people....I really am writing a book about my life. Well into it but confused how to thread it together. You know, It means a bunch to me, and you and other guys would get inside it too, but those MFers that stagnate our world today would not even understand the first inst. of it...you know what I mean?

Well, I'm sucking down pretty far into my Brandy right now so better call it quits.

Lloyd, I am going to laugh my cods of when I see you, I am still young and virile but you must be so old by now...(==D) Joking...old pal...
Yes Ian F had the leg disparity I'm sure, but it was his big mate (and mine) Kenny Seddon who got blitzed off Karachi in a Harrisons boat I think. They were great lads and I sailed with them for the epic 18 monther in Ribera. They were the best of mates but for some reason or other decided to stop the taxi on the way back from a night out in Huston to have a fight. They were both in 3 piece suits and finished up rolling down a levy kicking and screaming straight into a swamp where they continued to pummel each other taking it in turns to sit on top and try to drown the other in the ooz. Needless to say the taxis (and the rest of us) cleared off and left them to it. Next morning the chandler was seen to 'accidentaly' drop both suits on his way down the gangway opting to pay compensation rather than trying to get them cleaned! Ian and Kenny were of course best of mates again and reckoned they'd just done it for a laugh.

I've been bolder much longer than I've been older!!

bloomdido
5th May 2009, 01:26
I think his name was Tony Herbert, known as 'the shrubber' as in Roger the Shrubber from Monty Python, for reasons that I've long forgotten. I last heard of him as 2/e on what looked like a very sophisticated oil support vessel that had moored in Douglas harbour though I didn't get to meet him after my time in Boltons.
He was from Cleveland in the North East I think. As I remember he was a pretty switched on chap.
Do you remember the 'lecky' (in his case something of a misnomer) on that trip who disconnected his bench grinder with a pair of tinsnips when there was still juice on it?

Cheers.
Jon

hi ive been working with tony herbert for the last five years,at the port authority in middlesbrough on the dredging fleet.great bloke just left our place and has got a job on the tugs in canvey island .

Spanner
6th May 2009, 17:44
Hi Bloomdido.
If you're still in touch with Tony, please pass on my regards (Jon Bregazzi) and wish him all the best.
Cheers.
Jon

Ian J. Huckin
6th May 2009, 17:55
hi ive been working with tony herbert for the last five years,at the port authority in middlesbrough on the dredging fleet.great bloke just left our place and has got a job on the tugs in canvey island .

Hello bloomdido....same as Jon, pass my name along to him and perhaps introduce him to SN.

For everybody on this thread...I NOW HAVE A SCANNER AND HAVE STARTED ON THE BOLTON PICS I HAVE HERE IN ALASKA. WILL START POSTING SOON

Ian(Thumb)

Ian J. Huckin
7th May 2009, 01:54
Billy McGee added.....

Revised "crew list" below:

Kevin Bird - Catering - Kev Bird
Jonathan Bregazzi - Engineer - Spanner
Davey Caton - Deck - nomad21
Gordon Carey - Electrician
Derek Chapman - Chippy - tiachapman
Peter Charnley - Engineer - P. Charnley
Nick Chell - Engineer
Simon Coate - Deck - Simon C
Chris Cooke - Deck
Jim Cooper - Master
Howard Cox - Engineer - cubpilot
Peter Davidson - Engineer
Keith Fulker - Deck
David Fullwood - Master
Malcolm Gator - Deck
Lloyd Housley - Engineer - Lloyd Housley
Ian Huckin - Engineer - Ian J. Huckin
Geoff Long - Deck
Billy McGee - Deck - Billy1963
Jim Parker - Deck - jimtar17
Phil Pick - Engineer
Peter Sandvid - Engineer
Ian Stockbridge - Deck - Baltic Wal
Stuart Tait - Engineer
Terry Upson - Deck
Colin Wilson - Deck

(26)

Currently trying to get hold of:

Peter Ballantine - Leckie
Graham Skinner - Engineer
Martin Hammond - Engineer
Tony Herbert - Engineer

These guys are out in the wings there but not yet on SN

Best wishes all,

Ian

Baltic Wal
7th May 2009, 19:30
Two others to add are Polarum and Doug H

Ian J. Huckin
7th May 2009, 19:41
Two others to add are Polarum and Doug H

Thanks Ian.

I have the following ex Bolton guys that I need to find their name, what dept etc so I can match it with the SN I.D.:

Backsplice
Riptide
Polarum
Iaint
TMW
Dotart
John Hamilton
ROVintage
Doug H
Dick Ware

I thought that, rather than bug them, I would give it some time to see if they came forward.

It's probably time to contact them.

Thanks again(Thumb) ....Hey, can you believe it snowed here this morning???? Time to get off this Island...all the fresh salmon and crab and great hunting ain't worth this......

Best wishes,

Ian

TMW
10th May 2009, 13:22
I'm TMW, but not sure if you want, non Bolton seafaring, office staff involved!

Now retired and running an organic smallholding on the edge of the Lake District of UK.

Cheers

Randy or Randolph Coldham

tiachapman
10th May 2009, 18:29
why not// chippy x boltons.

cubpilot
10th May 2009, 19:10
the ships would not have sailed anywhere without the shore side gang in mark lane doing their bit. we just got to see the sights away from home that's all, some places good, some we don't talk about.

Ian J. Huckin
10th May 2009, 19:49
I'm TMW, but not sure if you want, non Bolton seafaring, office staff involved!

Now retired and running an organic smallholding on the edge of the Lake District of UK.

Cheers

Randy or Randolph Coldham

Come on in Randy, the water is great. You are an ex Boltanian, that is all that counts.

Let's hear some stories about the raging office parties you had on Friday afternoons!!!!

When I worked for SSM I spent time in the office getting the computers programmed for the ships being built out in Tamano. Every Friday, office staff (males) all wore a dark blue tie with five signal flags on it. They would not tell me what it was. I worked out it spelled POETS but did not have a clue what it meant. When I headed out to Japan they gave me a POETS tie and informed me it stood for "Piss Off Early Tommorow's Saturday".....

Revised "crew list" below:

Kevin Bird - Catering - Kev Bird
Jonathan Bregazzi - Engineer - Spanner
Davey Caton - Deck - nomad21
Gordon Carey - Electrician
Derek Chapman - Chippy - tiachapman
Peter Charnley - Engineer - P. Charnley
Nick Chell - Engineer
Simon Coate - Deck - Simon C
Randolph Coldham - Office - TMW
Chris Cooke - Deck
Jim Cooper - Master
Howard Cox - Engineer - cubpilot
Peter Davidson - Engineer
Keith Fulker - Deck
David Fullwood - Master
Malcolm Gator - Deck
Lloyd Housley - Engineer - Lloyd Housley
Ian Huckin - Engineer - Ian J. Huckin
Geoff Long - Deck
Billy McGee - Deck - Billy1963
Jim Parker - Deck - jimtar17
Phil Pick - Engineer
Peter Sandvid - Engineer
Ian Stockbridge - Deck - Baltic Wal
Stuart Tait - Engineer
Terry Upson - Deck
Colin Wilson - Deck

(27)

Currently trying to get hold of:

Peter Ballantine - Leckie
Graham Skinner - Engineer
Martin Hammond - Engineer
Tony Herbert - Engineer

These guys are out in the wings there but not yet on SN

Best wishes all,

Ian

bloomdido
17th June 2009, 01:17
Hi Bloomdido.
If you're still in touch with Tony, please pass on my regards (Jon Bregazzi) and wish him all the best.
Cheers.
Jon

hi jon i spoke to tony a couple of weeks ago told him about the posting on the forum he even remembered his old nick name, ill say hi for you next time we speak cheers
malcolm

backsplice
17th June 2009, 11:45
hello to all you "Bolton Boys" I had the honour to do one trip on the Rembrandt as AB .strangely enough I just can,t recall much about her she was a good ship but the Gas turbine was consistantly breaking down accomodation and grub was ok no wheel just joystick sailed from Avonmouth and we loaded Grain at Norfolk Virginia for Hull we encountered some harrassing from the USN and Airforce as we were in the immediate vicinity of Cuba and the blockade was being enforced the origional destiation was Galveston can,t seem to find many photos of her just the one everybody seems to have ......could hardly claim to be a member of the clan ?????

tiachapman
17th June 2009, 13:00
why not ?chippy

Spanner
23rd June 2009, 17:16
Hi Malcolm.
Thanks very much for the mention, and the posting.
All the best to you and to Tony.
Cheers.,
Jon

rhodius
11th July 2009, 14:23
My first ship was the Rievaulx, joined her late october, 1963, in Birkenhead.
My indentures were telling me that over the next four years I was to earn 840.10shillings and that amongst other things I was not to enter any houses of ill repute.
My first trip was to Monrovia, and for the first 5 days I was as sick as a dog. I discovered that:
It was possible to scrub the wheelhouse deck and polish the brass in an hour, starting at seven o'clock in the morning.
Apprentices couldn't buy booze, but that didn't stop them from drinking it.
Skiving was a skill well worth perfecting.

The following are the only names I can remember from my first trip:

Colin Beharrall, chippy, Cap,n Grugan the old man, Sid Peters second mate, Charlie Ingham third mate, senior apprentice Ollie Overland, Tibor Keene, apprentice, joined a couple of trips later, and finally me, Rhod Baikie.

Ghost
31st July 2009, 02:01
Ian, you must have been at So'tun the same years as Tiny Tait, but in the other class with Alf Garnet. Last I saw of him was at Shields when we were doing a ticket. He had been snagged by a big Shields girl and was about to be hitched, so he was not allowed out much.

victor wroth
6th August 2009, 21:52
Matt, (B.F.R.'s Grandson)

Very pleased and interested to receive the information hereunder in respect
of your Grandfather with whom I sailed sailed on SS REYNOLDS, a WW2 Liberty Ship owned by The Bolton Steamship Company. I don't know how I've received this information? - perhaps I made an enquiry some time ago in "Ships Nostalgia" ??

We all regarded your grandfather with some fondness as, to us, a very old!!
( 48 yrs) salt and knew he was one of seven survivors of SS Ramsay of
Bolton Steamship Co , convoy ON100 torpedoed south of Greenland June 10th
1942 by U 94 Kapitan Ites and was commended for war service..
He was previously Captain(?) on Boltons "Romney" ( all their ships named
after artists whose names began with "R" - Reibeek, Romney, Ruysdael etc )

" Reynolds" was a liberty ship whose welded construction caused them to be
regarded as prone to breaking in half!. Our second mate,a somwhat nervous
type, said to me " I don't like these ships, they're bloody dangerous!!" You
Grandfather kept a happy ship and we had a pleasant if somewhat slow
passage around the world, Spain Ceylon ( as was) Japan,China, Singapore,
Australia and back to Birkenhead via Suez, Passing Gibralter on christmas
eve my watch of 3 decided we would sing carols outside your grandfathers
cabin whereupon he opened his door and said " I was expecting you buggers"
and we had a convivial christmas early morning having accepted his tots of
rum as we discussed what had been a very stormy eventful voyage, I've,
years ago, spoken to members of Boltons staff about your Grandfather, who I
think he might have been Boltons senior captain. I have a picture of SS
Reynolds on my study wall. Boltons was a somewhat paternalistic tramp ship
company and treated us all very well. Pictures of " Reynolds"are available
on "Ships Nostalgia" on line

I also have the full story on Boltons SS Reynolds that preceeded " My"
replacement Reynolds ( master - Roderick David Macleod) She was lost with
all 47 hands,hit by two torpedoes at stern and amidships and capsized in
seconds after being torpedoed 210 miles east of Durban and south of
Madagascar on 31/10/42 per U-boat U504 skippers ( Hans Georg Frederick (
Fritz) Poske) report. Strangely, he records talking to suvivors as to their
ships name and cargo carried. When I queried " no survivors?" I was answered
with " that's what used to happen" he sailed on and left them to drown.

Somewhat bloodthirstily, I have some satisfaction that both U - boats were
sunk. U 94 was sunk 28/08/42 by depth charges from aircraft and ramming by
HMCS Oakville with 26 survivors, including Kapitan Ites - later a dentist.

Reynolds U 504 was sunk in company of two other Uboats 462 and 461 in a
hide and seek battle in southern Bay of Biscay that lasted from 29th and
30th July 1943 when sited and tracked and damaged by 5 aircraft all
suffering return fire from all 3 U-boats - 1 aircraft damaged and had to
land in Portugal. On 30th U - boat killer group HMS Woodpecker,Kite,Wren
and Wild Goose bought to the scene by aircraft reports hunted, depth charged
and sank all three U - boats. U 904 " no survivors,much wreckage and human
remains" per " Dark sky and deep waters" book by Norman Franks published by
" Grub street" ISBN 1-902304-37-3 1999 pages 43 etc.

Your grandfather was a real character! - and I'm so pleased to know his
later history. Thankyou.

Kind regards

Vic Wroth,

(email addresses and headers removed as per site policy)
> This is the message:
>
> My Grandfather was Captain BFR Thomas. He was born in March 1900 and died
> in November 1966. He went to sea at 16 and left in 1958, when he retired
> due to ill health. He is buried in Newcastle Emlyn in West Wales where he
> was born and brought up.
>

Kev Bird
13th August 2009, 22:00
Hello Kevin, I responded to one of your other posts.

Hey, was Fred that big, long armed, huge handed, gangly kid who was always happy?

Yep that is Fred he is now in Aus growing fruit & veg :sweat:

Billy1963
22nd August 2009, 15:37
Matt, (B.F.R.'s Grandson)" Reynolds" was a liberty ship whose welded construction caused them to be
regarded as prone to breaking in half!.

I also have the full story on Boltons SS Reynolds that preceeded " My"
replacement Reynolds
>

Bolton's owned five ships named Reynolds during their history, the liberty ship being Reynolds (3) built 1944 as the SAMCEBU, purchased by Bolton's in 1947, sold in 1951 and broken up in 1964 after sailing under a number of other names.

Reynolds (2)

Cargo ship Reynold, 5,113grt, (Bolton SS Co. Ltd) had sailed independently from Table Bay on the 21st October 1942 to Durban, sailing from there on the 30th October 1942. The ship was never seen again. It was not until December 30th 1942 the ship was officially classed as missing. On the 20th January 1943, German radio claims to have sunk a ship by this name and a Missing Ship Committee take into consideration the facts they have and conclude she was probably lost on the 31st October 1942, possibly sunk by a commerce raider thought to be operating in that area. Records from U-504 state they intercepted a ship 210 miles from Durban at 17.18 hours on the 31st October 1942, hitting the ship with two torpedoes amidships and in the stern where the ship capsized and sank within a few seconds. They claim a few survivors were seen in the water and questioned them saying their ship was the SS Reynolds enroute from Durban to India. The U-boat then left the scene and the men to their eventual fate. 40 crew and 7 DEMS gunners lost. For some reason all the gunners are dated as being killed 2nd November 1942. This is probably due to the fact there were no survivors and the exact date was not known until these men had already been registered as killed in action.

Tower Hill Memorial Panel 86.

ABBEY, Sailor, WILLIAM EDWARD, S.S. Reynolds (London). Merchant Navy. 31st October 1942. Age 25. Husband of Winifred Abbey, of Liverpool.

ADAMSON, Chief Engineer Officer, ROBERT WILLIAM, S.S. Reynolds (London). Merchant Navy. 31st October 1942. Age 53. Husband of Lily Adamson, of Higham Ferrers, Northamptonshire.

APPLEQUIST, Donkeyman, KARL, S.S. Reynolds (London). Merchant Navy. 31st October 1942. Age 56.

ASHBY, Fireman and Trimmer, WILLIAM EDWIN, S.S. Reynolds (London). Merchant Navy. 31st October 1942. Age 27. Son of William Charles and Helen Ashby; husband of Hazel Ashby, of Purston, Yorkshire.

BLANDFORD, Fireman and Trimmer, LAURIE SEBASTIAN, S.S. Reynolds (London). Merchant Navy. 31st October 1942. Age 26. Husband of Noreen Blandford, of Spotland, Rochdale, Lancashire.

BOYLE, Fireman and Trimmer, JOHN PATRICK, S.S. Reynolds (London). Merchant Navy. 31st October 1942. Age 46.

BRENNEN, Able Seaman, ALBERT WILLIAM, S.S. Reynolds (London). Merchant Navy. 31st October 1942. Age 22.

BURKE, Sailor, HENRY PETER, S.S. Reynolds (London). Merchant Navy. 31st October 1942. Age 23.

BUTLER, Apprentice, NORMAN MARSH, S.S. Reynolds (London). Merchant Navy. 31st October 1942. Age 18. Son of Wilfred Marsh and Gladys Eliza (Gem) Butler.

COLLMAN, Ordinary Seaman, DONALD PATRICK, S.S. Reynolds (London). Merchant Navy. 31st October 1942. Age 19. Son of Fredrick Patrick and Rose Maud Collman, of Southend-on-Sea, Essex.

DUFF, Third Engineer Officer, WILLIAM, S.S. Reynolds (London). Merchant Navy. 31st October 1942. Age 30.

GARSIDE, Second Radio Officer, GEORGE ABRAHAM, S.S. Reynolds (London). Merchant Navy. 31st October 1942. Age 16. Son of George Edward Garside, and of Clara Garside, of Pendleton, Salford, Lancashire.

HART, Fireman and Trimmer, FREDERICK, S.S. Reynolds (London). Merchant Navy. 31st October 1942. Age 30. Son of Frederick and Beatrice Hart; husband of Lily Hart, of Birkenhead.

HIGGINS, Cook, HORACE GEORGE, S.S. Reynolds (London). Merchant Navy. 31st October 1942. Age 38.

HINDLE, Fireman and Trimmer, ROBERT, S.S. Reynolds (London). Merchant Navy. 31st October 1942. Age 19.

HOGGART, Fireman and Trimmer, TERENCE, S.S. Reynolds (London). Merchant Navy. 31st October 1942. Age 38.

LAMB, Chief Officer, JOHN JAMES KENNETH, S.S. Reynolds (London). Merchant Navy. 31st October 1942. Age 34. Son of James and Mary Elspeth Lamb; husband of Minnie Mary Lamb, of Wallsend, Northumberland.

LITTLER, Ordinary Seaman, HENRY, S.S. Reynolds (London). Merchant Navy. 31st October 1942. Age 17. Son of Gladys Dolman, of Liverpool.

LOMAX, First Radio Officer, PETER BARLOW, S.S. Reynolds (London). Merchant Navy. 31st October 1942. Age 18.

LOWTHORPE, Fireman and Trimmer, LEWIS, S.S. Reynolds (London). Merchant Navy. 31st October 1942. Age 39. Husband of Nellie Lowthorpe, of Pudsey, Yorkshire.

MEREDITH, Assistant Steward, GEORGE ALBERT, S.S. Reynolds (London). Merchant Navy. 31st October 1942. Age 19. Son of Mr. and Mrs. G. H. Meredith, of Peterborough, Northamptonshire.

MOUER, Fireman and Trimmer, CHARLES, S.S. Reynolds (London). Merchant Navy. 31st October 1942. Age 38. Son of Charles and Catherine Mouer.

MacGREGOR, Able Seaman, DONALD HENRY, S.S. Reynolds (London). Merchant Navy. 31st October 1942. Age 20. Son of George Roland and Margaret Ethel MacGregor, of Waterloo, Liverpool.

McKENNA, Able Seaman, VINCENT, S.S. Reynolds (London). Merchant Navy. 31st October 1942. Age 30. Son of James and Charlotte McKenna. His brother Bernard also fell.

McLEOD, Master, RODERICK DAVID, S.S. Reynolds (London). Merchant Navy. 31st October 1942. Age 39. Husband of Doris McLeod, of Ford, Liverpool.

McNALLY, Assistant Steward, HARRY, S.S. Reynolds (London). Merchant Navy. 31st October 1942. Age 25. Son of James and Jean McNally; grandson of Helen McNally, of Springburn, Glasgow.

NEILSON, Third Radio Officer, PETER BROWN, S.S. Reynolds (London). Merchant Navy. 31st October 1942. Age 22.

PLATT, Fourth Engineer Officer, GEORGE LEWIS, S.S. Reynolds (London). Merchant Navy. 31st October 1942. Age 30. Son of George and Christina Platt, of Belfast, Northern Ireland.

QUIRK, Boatswain, JOHN, S.S. Reynolds (London). Merchant Navy. 31st October 1942. Age 25. Son of Mary Catherine Quirk, of Garston, Liverpool.

RAMSDEN, Carpenter, ARTHUR, S.S. Reynolds (London). Merchant Navy. 31st October 1942. Age 21.

SANDS, Fireman and Trimmer, STANLEY THOMAS, S.S. Reynolds (London). Merchant Navy. 31st October 1942. Age 30. Husband of H. Sands, of Swinton, Mexborough, Yorkshire.

SHARP, Second Engineer Officer, CLIFFORD, S.S. Reynolds (London). Merchant Navy. 31st October 1942. Age 37. Son of Frank and Edith Sharp, of Hessle, Yorkshire; husband of Rose Millicent Sharp. of Cottingham, Yorkshire.

SHIELDS, Assistant Steward, THOMAS, S.S. Reynolds (London). Merchant Navy. 31st October 1942. Age 19. Son of Matthew Shields, and of Edith Shields, of Liverpool.

STEVENSON, Fireman and Trimmer, JAMES, S.S. Reynolds (London). Merchant Navy. 31st October 1942. Age 19.

TEDFORD, Donkeyman, ROBERT, S.S. Reynolds (London). Merchant Navy. 31st October 1942. Age 49.

TROWELL, Fireman and Trimmer, CHARLES, S.S. Reynolds (London). Merchant Navy. 31st October 1942. Age 31. Son of Charles and Mary Jane Eastwood Trowell; husband of Lily Trowell, of Hull.

WALKER, Third Officer, HERBERT CECIL, S.S. Reynolds (London). Merchant Navy. 31st October 1942. Age 35. Son of Herbert Walter and Amelia Walker; husband of Irene Phyllis Walker, of Muswell Hill, Middlesex.

WARNER, Apprentice, PETER WILLIAM, S.S. Reynolds (London). Merchant Navy. 31st October 1942. Age 18. Son of John William and Jessie Edith Warner, of Carshalton, Surrey.

WINTERBOURNE, Ordinary Seaman, ELI STANLEY, S.S. Reynolds (London). Merchant Navy. 31st October 1942. Age 19. Son of George Stanley Winterbourne and Ethel Christina Winterbourne, of Formby, Lancashire.

YOUNG, Second Officer, WILLIAM EDMUND LINDSAY, S.S. Reynolds (London). Merchant Navy. 31st October 1942. Age 28.

DEMS Gunners commemorated various Naval Memorials

BLISSETT, Petty Officer, JAMES, C/JX 173797, S.S. Reynolds, Royal Navy. 2nd November 1942. Age 23. Husband of Alice Maud Blissett, of Islington, London.

KELLY, Bombardier, THOMAS, 2081507, 4/2 Maritime Regt., Royal Artillery. 2 November 1942. Age 24. Son of Thomas and Elizabeth Kelly, of Ilford, Essex.

LOFTUS, Gunner, ANTHONY, 11267051, 4/2 Maritime Regt., Royal Artillery. 2 November 1942. Age 23. Son of Pat and Ellen Loftus.

NIXON, Leading Seaman, WILLIAM, D/JX 200338. H.M.S. President III. Royal Navy. lost in S.S. Reynolds 2nd November 1942. Age 24. Son of Herbert and Alice Nixon; husband of Margaret Nixon, of Blackburn, Lancashire.

THORN, Able Seaman, HAROLD, D/JX 335841. H.M.S. President III. Royal Navy. lost in S.S. Reynolds. 2nd November 1942. Age 19. Son of Alfred Richard Percy and Constance Thorn, of Folkestone.

WILLIAMSON, Able Seaman, SAMUEL, D/JX 335837. H.M.S. President III. Royal Navy. lost in S.S. Reynolds. 2nd November 1942. Age 20. Son of Frances E. Williamson, of Longsight, Manchester.

WILLIAMS, Able Seaman, IDRIS, P/JX 335858. H.M.S. President III. Royal Navy. (lost in S.S. Reynolds). 2nd November 1942. Age 20. Son of Elizabeth Williams, of Rhiw, Blaenau Ffestiniog, Merionethshire.

Spanner
18th October 2009, 10:21
Sorry to bring sad news to this part of the site, but I found out yesterday that Barry Neville (2/E and C/E with Boltons) passed away last month. Barry had retired some time ago and I bumped into him once a year at a model engineering exhibition in the midlands. It was there that I found out he had succumbed. RIP

tondav3137
23rd October 2009, 15:38
Hi Ian.I was Chippy on the Redcar late 59, did two trips ,Seven Isle's, Vittoria, S/ America. I will dig some photo's out and foward them on. Got one good one We passed the Ripon homeward bound we where outward and passed about a 100 mtrs apart, all the best Tondav3137 (tony)

Charlesowen
24th October 2009, 10:40
Hi Ian thanks for such a great idea. I was a galley boy on the Rievaulx and Ribblehead 1959 - 60. Noticed the name Dave Caton on your 'crew list' who must have been on the Rievaulx about the same time.
Best wishes to all,
Charlie (Smith) ex South Bank Teeside

Charlesowen
24th October 2009, 10:50
Hi Rhodius I see you mention a 3rd mate Charles Ingham with you on the Redcar. He was the husband of a bridesmaid (Julie) at our wedding in 1964 and they both lived for some time in Catterick and Richmond. The both parted company some years ago. Not sure were he is now except know he is retired. We are still in touch with Julie and if anyone wants we could find out how to contact him. regards, Charlesowen

Charlesowen
25th October 2009, 03:51
I did my 1st trip to sea as deck boy, maiden voyage of the Rievaulx Jan 1958.
Davey Caton(Thumb)
Hi! Davey I was on the Rievaulx Feb. 1959 were you still with Boltons at that time? Charlie (Smith) Catering Boy.

tiachapman
31st December 2009, 13:15
Best Wishes To All The Clan, For 2010,chippy .

Lloyd Housley
1st January 2010, 15:23
Yes, Happy New Year to everyone.

Lloyd

cubpilot
3rd January 2010, 17:37
Seasons greetings to all and best wishes for 2010,
incidently anyone heard from ian h recently?

Hamish Mackintosh
3rd January 2010, 18:37
The Rembrandt was the first ship I ever set foot on, not to sail on her, just for a look around.I was at Gravesend sea school 1949 and the c/o had us lads out in the river doing lifeboat handling lessons, the "Rembrant" had come in overnight and was tied up to the bouys just off the sea school , she had just payed off, all the crew were gone, except for an old chap as watchman, who let us get aboard, the C/0 waxed long about points of interest in the wheelhouse etc and we must have spent half the day aboard, he told us she was an "Ocean" boat built for wartime service, and as I recall(its been a long time) she was still a dull grey in 49,

Charlesowen
31st January 2010, 22:38
Hi Ian, good site. Appreciate if you would include me on the crew list. Sailed on the Rievaulx early to mid 1959 as a catering boy & on the Ribblehead late 59 and early 60 as Asst. Stwd. all out of my home port Middlesborough. Many Bolton ships built just down the road from me at Smiths Docks in South Bank my home town.

Baltic Wal
11th April 2010, 20:34
Hi Ian, good site. Appreciate if you would include me on the crew list. Sailed on the Rievaulx early to mid 1959 as a catering boy & on the Ribblehead late 59 and early 60 as Asst. Stwd. all out of my home port Middlesborough. Many Bolton ships built just down the road from me at Smiths Docks in South Bank my home town.

Charles, you will have been on it while I was, Middlesbrough, two trips to Bone with Barrow in the middle back to Middlesbrough then sailing news years eve to drydock in Newcastle

Kev Bird
13th April 2010, 20:41
Hi everyone its all gone very quiet i hope the Ian is ok

Kev Bird
24th April 2010, 00:01
Hi its Fred Tratt! First sailed with Boltons in 1977 under Captain Cooper, now living in Australia, would like to know if anyone knows where Colin Hills is! If possible contact by private message or anyone else who'd like to get in contact would like to hear from you!

Please use the site private message (PM) system to make contact.
(Email address removed as per site policy - please see the guidelines (http://www.shipsnostalgia.com/showthread.php?t=17182) )

pwnewton
29th September 2010, 17:32
Hello Ian
You can add my name to the list, Peter Newton - we sailed together in the early 80's on the likes of the Nosira Sharon and Reynolds. I am still in touch with John Simmons, Simon Hibberd and Robert (Fozzie) Gibson. Cheers!

Ian J. Huckin
30th September 2010, 20:26
Hi everyone its all gone very quiet i hope the Ian is ok

Don't know how I missed this one, sorry. I was out of the loop for a while moving from Alaska back to the lower 48 and taking a job in Arkansas, which soon relocated me in Oklahoma where I am now. All is good and I will be coming over for the 2011 Boltons Reunion. Spread the word. Get as many people as you can to send me there email addresses (via PM)

Best wishes and thanks.....Ian

Ian J. Huckin
30th September 2010, 20:28
Hello Ian
You can add my name to the list, Peter Newton - we sailed together in the early 80's on the likes of the Nosira Sharon and Reynolds. I am still in touch with John Simmons, Simon Hibberd and Robert (Fozzie) Gibson. Cheers!

How are you doing Peter, I think it is just great when new names from the past pop up. Get any old Boltonians you know to PM me their email addresses as we work towards a crew list for the 2011 Bolton's Reunion. Keep watching this site....best wishes, Ian

Spanner
1st October 2010, 22:42
Glad to see you back here Ian. Reunion? Sounds a great idea. please keep me informed.
Cheers.
Jon

Spanner
1st October 2010, 22:44
Hello Ian
You can add my name to the list, Peter Newton - we sailed together in the early 80's on the likes of the Nosira Sharon and Reynolds. I am still in touch with John Simmons, Simon Hibberd and Robert (Fozzie) Gibson. Cheers!

Hi Pete.
Nice to hear that you're still about.
All the best
Jon (Bregazzi)

tiachapman
23rd November 2010, 23:00
SAMMY SANDVID is I WARD 16 IN the freeman hospital Newcastle,not very well but the old spirit is still there , a e/m to the ward would cheer him up no end GET AT IT NOW, CHIPPIE.

marco nista
1st December 2010, 18:51
Some sad news via Jimmy Cooper.

'Sammy' Sandvid passed away Monday night in hospital.
His two sons were with him.

One of the great Boltons 'characters' - we won't see his like again.

Regards

Mike Jackson
[R/O, 'Rubens' 'Reynolds' & the 'Nosiras']

tiachapman
2nd December 2010, 12:31
R I P, SAMUEL PETER SANDVID we were shipmate,s many time,s and friends.

Ian J. Huckin
2nd December 2010, 20:14
RIP Sammy. Thank you for being my mentor, my friend and my best Chief. See you on the other side.......(Pint)

Ian J. Huckin
2nd December 2010, 20:19
Hey guys, let's all make our very best effort to be at the 2011 Bolton's reunion so we can raise a glass in honor of a very fine man...Peter "Sammy" Sandvid.

Each of you please let me know how I can contact you so that I can assist Joan Wilson with the planning.

Thanks all......

Spanner
14th December 2010, 15:59
Hey guys, let's all make our very best effort to be at the 2011 Bolton's reunion so we can raise a glass in honor of a very fine man...Peter "Sammy" Sandvid.

Each of you please let me know how I can contact you so that I can assist Joan Wilson with the planning.

Thanks all......
Indeed.
It was a pleasure to sail with 'Sammy' and it makes my sad to think of his passing.
RIP.

Kev Bird
19th December 2010, 18:03
Indeed.
It was a pleasure to sail with 'Sammy' and it makes my sad to think of his passing.
RIP.

A true gent .... my condolences to his famly

tiachapman
19th December 2010, 20:00
i went to Sammy,s funeral on Monday ,a very nice service,a good send off,for a good shipmate RIP Sammy you have made your mark in life, chippy.

david j williamson
7th January 2011, 19:45
greetings shipmates.
i recognise more names than faces i am able to put to them but hope to be at the 2011 reunion.
i am searching the thread but cant seem to find the time and place - can someone advise.
just looking at spanners posts and got a chill at the thought of him up front and me in the back!
must contact Phil 'NotloB' Disley and Bob Garnham to let them know.
Put me on the crew list please.
1981-1987 (or was it 1989?) Reynolds A.B. Rubens / Lin / Madeliene and Sharon,
3/O and 2/O

Spanner
8th January 2011, 16:24
Dave.
The thread you need is:-
http://www.shipsnostalgia.com/showthread.php?t=36127
Hope to go there aswell.
Cheers for now.
Jon

johnvvc
10th March 2011, 11:54
Hello,

Not strictly a Boltonian but I sailed on the Ribblehead in 1961 as R/O, my first ship.

According to my Discharge Book I joined her in Birkenhead on the 13th February 1961 and paid off in Middlesboro' on the 9th June 1961. The Old Man was J.Pratt. I seem to remember trips down to Monrovia, Seven Islands and also to Vitoria in Brazil. Did we also go to a small God foresaken place up the Amazon - or was that another ship...

Sadly I remember very little about the ship or the crew. I was 2nd. R/O and I was doing my six month 'apprenticeship' after which I left to join the Marwick Head. The Chief R/O was Irish. The 3rd Mate was always threatening to leave the sea and join the Fire Service... Little things like that coming back but generally it's all very vague - well it is half a century ago!

One thing I do remember was carrying a big Elizabethan open reel tape recorder with me whatever ship I joined, with loads of 7" tapes full of pop music !!! It ran on 240 volt AC of course and as many ships (most?) were DC I also carried a DC - AC converter. We didn't have MP3 players in those days !!!

I'm trying to collect some pictures and details of all the ships I sailed on so if anyone has anything relating to the Ribblehead I'd be grateful. Please feel free to PM me anytime.

John (Parry)

R58484956
10th March 2011, 16:07
Ribblehead go to www.photoship.co.uk, a photo of a tanker on pge 7

Lloyd Housley
13th March 2011, 03:00
Hi there,

Please let me introduce you to a selection of Bolton vessel photos and a small amount of information that I'm in the process of putting together.

I hope it helps you in some way.

https://sites.google.com/site/boltonsteamshippingcoltd/home/ribblehead

atb
lh

johnvvc
13th March 2011, 13:09
Thanks for the link Lloyd, you've got some good stuff there, keep up the good work and more power to your elbow.

I'm putting together a little scrapbook of all the ships I sailed on and any information is always very welcome.

Now what I'd 'really' like would be some pictures of the radio rooms - but I'm probably being over optimistic!

johnvvc
13th March 2011, 13:10
R58484956 - should also have thanked you for the link - thanks!

Lloyd Housley
14th March 2011, 11:09
My pleasure, I'm still looking looking for the pictures I promised, in fact just having a dig about now.

tiachapman
14th March 2011, 14:21
have you any with SAMMY on ???.

Lloyd Housley
14th March 2011, 16:28
Sure have, just a couple. I'll dig them out and post them. Got a couple of him in full cry!!

Lloyd Housley
22nd March 2011, 03:03
Hi Guys,
I don't know who's out there or who knows me but here goes a venture about our old outfit which I hope may be of some interest.

https://sites.google.com/site/boltonsteamshippingcoltd/home

I did point a finger in it's direction a couple of weeks ago to someone I was chatting with but didn't realise I was going public (Pint)
Anyway I've moved it all on a bit since then and hopefully refined the detail and corrected all (some) of the glaring mistakes.
It's not finished yet (and probably never will be) but I've got six ships piccies missing and need loads of '1st Hand' detail for each vessel.
It's not mandatory to contribute of course, but we're not getting any younger, and I don't want our company (or us) to fade away.

Please tell me what you think and give me some yarns.

Regards

J.J.Millar
13th September 2011, 11:05
Hi Spanner, I was Choff on Reynolds when we got hit by Finn Forest way back when. I remember it well !

John Millar, still sailing, just

J.J.Millar
14th September 2011, 22:48
I joined Bolton SS as apprentice on 14th October 1964, MV 'Ripon', Queens Dock' Cardiff and then Redcar, Ruysdale, Ribblehead, Rubens, Reynolds, Ribera. I left as 2nd Mate, then rejoined BMM as mate on Nosira Lyn some tears later. It's good to see so many names still around !

John J.Millar

Spanner
19th September 2011, 16:16
Hi Spanner, I was Choff on Reynolds when we got hit by Finn Forest way back when. I remember it well !

John Millar, still sailing, just
Yes John, I remember it well. I was standing between two generators when the ship heeled over that quickly, I thought the geny behind me had blown up and this was my last breath.
Seemed to remember that the impact buckled the deck in the accomodation (amongst other, more serious, damage) and the 2/E (Tommy Spoor) had to sleep elswhere as his bunk was over the buckle.

Spanner
13th December 2011, 17:51
If anyone is still looking at this thread, they might like to know that Pete Newton has created an Ex Boltons group on Facebook.

chris mackenzie
22nd January 2012, 20:29
i was on deck on the rosetti in 75

George Marshall
13th January 2013, 16:11
G'day everybody. SN has created this Forum for us, and fellow seafarers, so that we have a place to discuss anything "BOLTONS" and to help stay in touch with each other. I hope you all enjoy this place and I can see we are going to have a great time.

Here is a crew list of those Old Boltonians still kicking...I'm sure we will track down more:

Gordon Carey
Derek Chapman
Peter Charnley
Nick Chell
Simon Coate
Chris Cooke
Jim Cooper
Howard Cox
Peter Davidson
Keith Fulker
David Fullwood
Malcolm Gator
Lloyd Housley
Ian Huckin
Geoff Long
Phil Pick
Peter Sandvid
Stuart Tait
Terry Upson
Colin Wilson

Between us I am sure we have a huge inventory of stories, experiences and pictures. Let's share them......(If we make relevant posts elsewhere would it be worth including them here too?)

Best wishes all,

Ian (==D)
Hi My name is George Marshall , Motorman,
I Sailed on the Sharon / Madelline.
for 3 years. hELLO TO ANYBODY WHO REMEMBERS ME ?

Philip Pick
26th June 2013, 16:55
Ahoy! No posts since January? Anybody about?
Philip

Ian J. Huckin
23rd July 2013, 02:10
Ahoy! No posts since January? Anybody about?
Philip

I'm still hanging around like a bad smell Phil. Now working right up by the Canadian border in Washington State...incredible sceneray and the hunting is insane...great life...How you'uns doin??????

darren23
6th November 2013, 18:56
hi I sailed with boltons from 83 deck boy until 88 have some great memories my nickname in them days was findus lol

darren23
7th November 2013, 06:41
Hi My name is George Marshall , Motorman,
I Sailed on the Sharon / Madelline.
for 3 years. hELLO TO ANYBODY WHO REMEMBERS ME ?

hi George I remember you just lol I was on them don't know if you remember me my nickname was findus I was on deck I started off deckboy on the nosira lin was with them about 6 yrs

Nick Batstone
14th November 2013, 21:44
hi I sailed with boltons from 83 deck boy until 88 have some great memories my nickname in them days was findus lol

Hiya Findus, sailed with you on the Sharon or Lin. Can't remember which one but memory is shot these days. Too many trips to Duluth

darren23
27th November 2013, 12:35
Hiya Findus, sailed with you on the Sharon or Lin. Can't remember which one but memory is shot these days. Too many trips to Duluth

haha yeah I can remember you Nick your not kidding about Duluth lol

Nick Batstone
27th November 2013, 18:29
haha yeah I can remember you Nick your not kidding about Duluth lol

Are you still in touch with any of the lads? I still meet up with Pete Borsberry occasionally, he is on the rigs now.

darren23
28th November 2013, 11:37
Are you still in touch with any of the lads? I still meet up with Pete Borsberry occasionally, he is on the rigs now.

haha its that mad pete whos party trick was to eat glass pmsl a Geordie lad ? ive just got in contact with Gordon walker spoke to him last week after nearly 30 yrs lol and I spk to mick mcclean on facebook now and again hes still at sea on rfa Gordon lives in the states iam still at sea on ferries in dover 2 weeks on 2 off lol

Nick Batstone
29th November 2013, 20:10
haha its that mad pete whos party trick was to eat glass pmsl a Geordie lad ? ive just got in contact with Gordon walker spoke to him last week after nearly 30 yrs lol and I spk to mick mcclean on facebook now and again hes still at sea on rfa Gordon lives in the states iam still at sea on ferries in dover 2 weeks on 2 off lol

Jesus Christ is Boris still alive!!!!! He must be near retiring age now.

Yep that's Mad Pete although he's not so mad now as he is doing very well for himself. He had a new hip last year, I told him all that weight lifting was a waste of time!!

Ever hear from Shaggy?

darren23
1st December 2013, 13:34
Jesus Christ is Boris still alive!!!!! He must be near retiring age now.

Yep that's Mad Pete although he's not so mad now as he is doing very well for himself. He had a new hip last year, I told him all that weight lifting was a waste of time!!

Ever hear from Shaggy?

yeah boris is still going strong :) no I lost contact with shaggy think Gordon been in touch with him few yrs back say hello to pete for me

expats
28th December 2013, 10:07
I joined Bolton SS as apprentice on 14th October 1964, MV 'Ripon', Queens Dock' Cardiff and then Redcar, Ruysdale, Ribblehead, Rubens, Reynolds, Ribera. I left as 2nd Mate, then rejoined BMM as mate on Nosira Lyn some tears later. It's good to see so many names still around !

John J.Millar

I joined the 'Ripon', in Glasgow, as junior R/O in September 1964...So we must have sailed together...
I'd just done 3 months on a new supertanker so seeing this 'tiny' ship, covered in iron ore dust was a bit of a shock..However, she was one of the happiest ships I ever sailed on. I left her Christmas eve 1964 in Liverpool ( a bunch of us ended up in the "Starlight Club" on 23rd Dec and I've got a photo of us; I'll try and find it and scan it in) ....

If memory serves, we sailed together again when you were 3rd mate on the Ribblehead/Ruysdale?

Leratty
8th January 2014, 17:19
I was on Ribera, I think it was her maiden voyage mid late 60's out of Nth Shields (?) to the States. I was an AB but came from the bridge ex deck app. It was a period during which I had a fantastic time. This was my second-third to last trip I think? She was a very happy ship with mostly Geordie crew. Last trip was Mendoza Star doing the WCSA a great trip to end to my sea time (: This was her last trip to she was sold on & I went ashore to university & then into the mining oil-gas industry which was as much fun as being at sea.

Spanner
14th January 2014, 10:56
IMO 7920027. Known to us all as the Nosira Lin listed on the srapping report for Alang 25/10/2012.
IMO 7920039.The Nosira Sharon, listed on the scrapping report for Gadani Beach 03/09/2012.
IMO 8024076. The Nosira Madeleine, listed at Alang 19/09/2013

All under their names at the time of scrapping which I think were Opal II, Partnership and H Pioneer respectively.

tiachapman
15th February 2014, 12:11
all very quiet these days on the clan

Ian J. Huckin
28th February 2014, 00:17
IMO 7920027. Known to us all as the Nosira Lin listed on the srapping report for Alang 25/10/2012.
IMO 7920039.The Nosira Sharon, listed on the scrapping report for Gadani Beach 03/09/2012.
IMO 8024076. The Nosira Madeleine, listed at Alang 19/09/2013

All under their names at the time of scrapping which I think were Opal II, Partnership and H Pioneer respectively.

Man they lasted well, I guess I did a good job building them HA HA HA...

Philip Pick
4th March 2014, 18:33
Man they lasted well, I guess I did a good job building them HA HA HA...

Lots of time available for painting while that were 'in dock' for mechanical repairs...... :-)

WillyJamesMc
12th April 2014, 16:15
Jesus Christ is Boris still alive!!!!! He must be near retiring age now.

Yep that's Mad Pete although he's not so mad now as he is doing very well for himself. He had a new hip last year, I told him all that weight lifting was a waste of time!!

Ever hear from Shaggy?

Nosira Sharon Messroom 1983. Forgot most of the names.

WillyJamesMc
14th April 2014, 12:18
Hi Spanner, I was Choff on Reynolds when we got hit by Finn Forest way back when. I remember it well !

John Millar, still sailing, just

I was sat in the messroom behind where the door is missing in the photograph waiting to go on 12-4 when she hit.

nomad
19th April 2014, 17:01
Nosira Sharon Messroom 1983. Forgot most of the names.

HEY Willy
from left to right you have Malcolm Milbourne (aka Helmut)
Pete Borsbury and fourth from the left is Billy Magee

WillyJamesMc
21st April 2014, 15:37
The lad sat the other side of Pete is Malcolm MacKellwee (not sure of spelling) and the Steward on the end without the sun tan was nicknamed "Flash" for his lack of speed. He got the sack when were in Montreal I think. Billy McGee I know, because it is me. I got sacked in Ravenna the same trip for an escapade I had the previous trip on the Nosira Lin. I initally missed the ship in Santos, but lucky she had stopped just up the coast and I rejoined her. I then had a bit of a mishap in Vancouver with a pick up truck and only got the job on the Sharon to pay the fine off.

nomad
21st April 2014, 16:18
lol that's funny didn't even figure the name out I remember that crash well I carried you from the truck with your leg flopping around
did you enjoy all the ships mauls I sent to see you up in the hospital haha

WillyJamesMc
22nd April 2014, 16:02
Yeh! Local Indian girls on acid (EEK), did not go down to well with the nursing staff.