Lypta (Fraser & Whites

1193227371
17th April 2009, 22:57
Can anyone remember the LYPTA 1950 Ex BETA 1891 a grab coal burner of Fraser & Whites coal merchants of Portsmouth they also had two tugs INDUSTRIOUS and ZEALIOUS ? trying to obtain photo's on these. I have a very distant photo of LYPTA. thanks

robandbarbara
19th April 2009, 13:10
I remember the Lypta at Portsmouth very well. I am pretty sure that she was an ex Manchester Ship Canal dredger 'MSC BETA', . I first saw her in the Camber , Portsmouth prior to 1949.

I attach a (poor) picture of the 'Industrious' taken in the Camber on 22/03/1949 . She later became the 'Bess' but who purchased her from Fraser and White I dont know.
Rob

danube4
20th April 2009, 00:03
Tug "INDUSTRIOUS"
http://www.photoship.co.uk/JAlbum%20Ships/Old%20Ships%20I/slides/Industrious-01.html

Barney.

gil mayes
20th April 2009, 15:08
LYPTA (98920)ex Beta-50, 404grt was brought to the South Coast by Vectis Transport Co Ltd, Newport, IoW and passed to Winner Ballast Ltd, Quay House Broad Street, Portsmouth (F.S. Neate, manager) in 1953. Built by T. A. Walker, at Sudbrook, Mons in 1891 (Yd.No.22) for Manchester Ship Canal Co Ltd. She was used not only for dredging sand and ballast which she invariably discharged at Rudmore, but also for discharging from colliers into barges for onward transit to Gosport and Fareham. A real workhorse.
Gil.

gil mayes
20th April 2009, 16:57
INDUSTRIOUS (169920) was ex Tanac 66, Built Trenton, Ontario in 1944 for the Admiralty. 55grt with dims 60.2 x 16.5 x 5.8 ft I believe that she had 227bhp Vivian diesel but I cannot be certain. As BESS she was owned for a time by Woodfords (London) Ltd, Twickenham. Some may recall that they had the MERSEY BEAUCOUP (187167)ex Mersey No.42-72, working in the Solent managed by J. Willment Marine (Cowes) Ltd. BESS was given a yellow hull.
ZEALOUS (167998) was an ex HLD, composite construction ex Dockyard and was registered at Portsmouth in 1948 as a tug. Again, memory, I think that she had a 6-cyl Gardner. Both tugs were owned by Fraser & White Ltd, Quay House, Broad Street, Portsmoth and like the LYPTA managed by Fred Neate.
Familiar around Portsmouth Harbour they towed the coal lighters/barges either loaded in the Camber from the 'Flyers' or at the top of the harbour ex a collier. Destination was Gosport and Fareham Gasworks or domestic coal, with bunker coal often taken to the coaling barge for the IoW steamers.
Gil.

robandbarbara
23rd April 2009, 00:11
Sorry Danube 4 - picture of the steam Tug posted above is not that of the ex Tanac owned by Fraser and White. Fraser and White later became Corrals.
Rob

gil mayes
23rd April 2009, 20:31
Looks every bit like INDUSTRIOUS to me Rob. Am I missing something?
Gil.