clan ships in question

Aristo
30th August 2005, 15:44
I am looking for information on the fate of the Clan Menzies and Clan Sutherland, both were sold to China for further trading but nothing more was heard of them.

Banni
31st August 2005, 16:21
Aristo

Clan Menzies was sold 1979 with Clan Malcolm to bective Shiping and renamed Trinity Splendour.
then sold on in 1980 to China Ocean Shipping and became Xing Long. trace has been lost of her as the Chinese company tend not to report scrappings to Lloyds.

Clan Sutherland arrived at Hsing Kiang for scraping on 10/11/1971 but resold to COSCO (China Ocean Shiping Co.) for further trading. Given a new name but trace was lost as with the Menzies.

Hope this helps.

Brian Bannister

alexander dodds
5th September 2005, 08:32
Information required for the Clan Mactavish & Clan Maccauley.
Alex Dodds

shipmate17
5th September 2005, 10:56
These were the early Clan Ships.
Clan McTavish(11) Torpedoed and sunk.1942.
Clan McCauley(11) Scrapped at Dalmuir.1963.

Aristo
5th September 2005, 22:14
I am looking for information on the wreck of the Ayrshire at Socotra Island. Has the ship sank or she was abandoned grounded? Are there any photos of the incident?

Banni
6th September 2005, 21:44
Re the Clan Macauley - 10,492gross, 6,118net
Launched at greenock 07/08/1936
05/08/1940 first sailing to Middle East as a troop ship.
Took part in Malta convoys
19/01/1941 bombed and damaged in Malta trapped in Valetta for seven weeks then went to Alexandria
July 1953 Berthed in beira petrol leaking from a tanker caught fire and surrounded the MacAuley but she didn't catch fire.
1956 became part of B & C
1961 transferred to Houston Line Ltd.
11/08/1963 left Liverpool on her 70th and last voyage.
06/12/1963 Scrapped by W. Arnott, Young at Dalmuir.

Do you want the same info on the MacTavish?

Banni

alexander dodds
8th September 2005, 09:57
Banni,
am interested for details on the 2nd MacTavish which I sailed on in 63-64.
Thanks Alex

Banni
8th September 2005, 21:03
Not much on this one I am afraid

Launched 2nd March 1949; Greenock Dockyard
Tonnage: 8,035gross; 3,924net
Engine: Twin screw, 2 x 3 steam turbine, 1,880nhp by Parsons Marine Steam turbine Co. Newcastle.
16knots
1 x 125ton derrick
22ns October 1971 arrived in Whampoa and broken up there.

R58484956
9th September 2005, 14:15
Clan mactavish, 483.0 x 65.7 x 29.7. 2 water tube boilers 500psi.Engines by Parsons.
3 masts. code flags GUBB. DF,ESD,GyC, Radar. registered, Glasgow.2 decks and a shelter deck,cruiser stern.

alexander dodds
23rd September 2005, 08:11
Thanks for the information, Alex

ruud
23rd September 2005, 13:10
Ahoy Alexander,

Is this the one?
Clan Mactacvish
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Colin Brown
18th October 2008, 15:54
I am looking for information on the wreck of the Ayrshire at Socotra Island. Has the ship sank or she was abandoned grounded? Are there any photos of the incident?

Hi Aristo,

I was with Clan Line when the "Ayrshire" was lost off Socotra, and had a particular interest having previously been in her sistership "Argyllshire".
From the Company chitchat at the time, the Clan Line Commodore, Captain MacDonald (?) was master at the time. She had been carrying 12 passengers in addition to general cargo, and the ship had gone in closer to the island than normally, to give the passengers a view. After she struck the reef (uncharted) she was making water fast. The passengers and unneeded crew were put into the boats and towed for a while until it appeared that she might founder, when they were cut loose. However, it was found possible to ground the ship on sand. Efforts were made to refloat her but I understand that the tow broke. Some cargo - including a boiler being carried on deck - were transferred to smaller vessels and the ship left until a better time for refloating. In the meantime, however, local inhabitants virtually stripped her of any thing worth carrying away. So far as I know, the remains might still be there - but others might shed further light or indeed correct my recollections above.

Colin Brown

BillH
18th October 2008, 19:02
Hi Aristo,

I was with Clan Line when the "Ayrshire" was lost off Socotra, and had a particular interest having previously been in her sistership "Argyllshire".
From the Company chitchat at the time, the Clan Line Commodore, Captain MacDonald (?) was master at the time. She had been carrying 12 passengers in addition to general cargo, and the ship had gone in closer to the island than normally, to give the passengers a view. After she struck the reef (uncharted) she was making water fast. The passengers and unneeded crew were put into the boats and towed for a while until it appeared that she might founder, when they were cut loose. However, it was found possible to ground the ship on sand. Efforts were made to refloat her but I understand that the tow broke. Some cargo - including a boiler being carried on deck - were transferred to smaller vessels and the ship left until a better time for refloating. In the meantime, however, local inhabitants virtually stripped her of any thing worth carrying away. So far as I know, the remains might still be there - but others might shed further light or indeed correct my recollections above.

Colin Brown
AYRSHIRE (2) (1957 - 1965)
O.N. 300171. 9,360g. 5,302n. 470' 8" x 69' 3" x 28' 4"
Three, steam turbines made by Parsons Marine Steam Turbine Company, Wallsend, installed by J. G. Kincaid & Company Ltd., Greenock, driving screw shaft. 10,340 SHP.

19.10.1956: Launched by the Greenock Dockyard Company Ltd., Greenock (Yard No. 488) for The Clan Line Steamers Ltd., (Cayzer, Irvine & Company Ltd., managers).

5.1957: Completed.

10.1960: Transferred to the Scottish Shire Line Ltd., (same managers).

23.3.1965: Whilst on a voyage from Liverpool to Brisbane, ran aground at Abd Al Awi, 430 miles E. S. E. from Aden, near Socotra.

26.4.1965: Refloated briefly, but ran aground again in worsening weather conditions.

27.4.1965: Salvage attempts were abandoned.

Chris Isaac
18th October 2008, 19:19
I was on Ayrshire at the time, a full account on on the link below and look in my pics for photos

http://www.shipsnostalgia.com/showthread.php?t=6817