BP Shipping

Steve
28th September 2005, 21:13
Can't remember who requested this one, but here it is.

Regards

Steve

Fairfield
28th September 2005, 21:39
This will also be a good one I/m sure.Good that they seem to have a fairly large fleet again and keeping the old names and near original Anglo-Iranian (?) colours.

paul0510
29th September 2005, 11:17
Thanks Steve, 'twas I. So let me start the ball rollin' with my BP 'CV' !

Navigating App on British Osprey 1967
---------"------------- on British Patrol 1967-68
---------"------------- on British Venture 1968
---------"------------- on British Hero 1969

3/O on British Destiny 1969-70
3/O on British Willow 1970-71
3/O on British Beacon 1971

2/O on British Valour 1972
2/O on British Fulmar 1972-73
2/O on British Hawthorn 1973-74
2/O on British Argosy 1975

N.B for all you ex-Eng.Apps/Offs. out there you might like to visit Graham Wallace's site at:
http://members.allstream.net/~wallaceg/

Over to you, lads.

John_F
29th September 2005, 19:08
For the record:
Nav.App. British Glory 1959
Nav.App. British Beacon 1959-1960
Nav.App. British Birch 1960-1961
Nav.App. British Patriot 1961-1962
Nav.App. British Queen 1962
3/0 British Gannet 1962
3/0 Clyde Guardian 1962-1963
3/0 British Renown 1963
3/0 British Trust 1964

Considering that BP had 120+ vessels during this period it is somewhat of a coincidence that 4 fairly active members of this site (Paul0510, Gadgee, Dave Edge & myself) all seem to have served time on the Beacon. In my few years with the Company, I never sailed with the same person on another ship.

John_F

akbruton
29th September 2005, 20:29
What happened to the British Cavalier a diguised cargo ship
We returned to South Shields for it to convertedto look like a tanker but heard no more of her that was in 1947 a life time ago

Jeff Egan
29th September 2005, 20:36
What about Scottish BP, The Lowland Tanker Co. Ltd.?
Border Fusilier 1968
Border Lass 1968-1969
Border Laird 1971
Ok Ok I'll get off the thread

John_F
29th September 2005, 22:12
What happened to the British Cavalier a diguised cargo ship
We returned to South Shields for it to convertedto look like a tanker but heard no more of her that was in 1947 a life time ago
The British Cavalier was originally built for the Ministry of War Transport by J.Laing & Sons, Sunderland, in 1942 & named the Empire Cavalier. After the war, she was purchased by BP in October 1945 & renamed British Cavalier. She served another 14 years with them before going to Briton Ferry in May 1959 for razor blades.
Regards,
John

John_F
29th September 2005, 23:09
What about Scottish BP, The Lowland Tanker Co. Ltd.?
Border Fusilier 1968
Border Lass 1968-1969
Border Laird 1971
Ok Ok I'll get off the thread
Jeff,
I always used to think that Lowland were ahead of the parent Company in terms of ship design. For example, I think they had vessels with 'all aft' accommodation a couple of years before BP did. I remember visiting one of these 'all aft' vessels in Grain, can't remember which one but it was about 19,000 dwt I think in 60/61. The view from the bridge was very impressive to someone who was used to the bridge being amidships.
Kind regards,
John.

Jeff Egan
30th September 2005, 11:53
The three I served on were all bridge amidships and known as Old Border boats, the bridge aft ships new Borders boats, many of which have been posted here including Border Chieftain recently.

akbruton
30th September 2005, 20:12
Thanks John I was on the Cavalier as Empire and later British,Perhaps I have shaved with it since. Still looking for a photo to satisfy my grandsons Regards Alan

baileysan
30th September 2005, 20:36
All you old BP men should get a hold of "THE BRITISH TANKERS" by Norman Middlemiss. It will bring all the nostalgia to the fore, the photos are really great. There is a photo of the British Cavalier with dummy funnel.

John_F
1st October 2005, 00:40
All you old BP men should get a hold of "THE BRITISH TANKERS" by Norman Middlemiss. It will bring all the nostalgia to the fore, the photos are really great. There is a photo of the British Cavalier with dummy funnel.
Third edition published this year to mark the 90th anniversary of the founding of the Company with all new pictures (including the Cavalier with dummy funnel).

akbruton
2nd October 2005, 12:49
An address where to obtain this book would be helpful. Thanks Alan

ruud
2nd October 2005, 13:24
An address where to obtain this book would be helpful. Thanks AlanAhoy Alan,
Here you are:
http://www.motorbooks.co.uk/showsect.asp?id=281&pageno=6#70845

£30.00

akbruton
14th October 2005, 20:16
Thanks Rudd, I have now got the British Cavalier before and after ,regards Alan

KenLin39
15th October 2005, 00:48
Thanks Steve, 'twas I. So let me start the ball rollin' with my BP 'CV' !

Navigating App on British Osprey 1967
---------"------------- on British Patrol 1967-68
---------"------------- on British Venture 1968
---------"------------- on British Hero 1969

3/O on British Destiny 1969-70
3/O on British Willow 1970-71
3/O on British Beacon 1971

2/O on British Valour 1972
2/O on British Fulmar 1972-73
2/O on British Hawthorn 1973-74
2/O on British Argosy 1975

N.B for all you ex-Eng.Apps/Offs. out there you might like to visit Graham Wallace's site at:
http://members.allstream.net/~wallaceg/

Over to you, lads.

Hello Paul, Graham has been collecting ALL crew members names and dates on Bp ships from Deck/Pantry boys up. Ken.

cynter
16th December 2005, 14:24
G'day shipmates....
Have any of the many blokes who are part of this site seen/been on/know of/have a photo or have any info regarding the ss "British Scout"....
I was the sparks for 6 months Jan-Jun 1956 and I never ever got round to taking her picture... she was built in 1922 and a ***** of a ship... no running water (except when the cabin steward ran along the flying bridge with it from down aft. The radio gear was just one step ahead of the Titanic but somehow I enjoyed my brief stay.
Any info would be welcomed.... cheers Cynter

ruud
16th December 2005, 15:05
Ahoy cynter,

Found a piccie, belongs to Des Jenkins picture tells, so the credits to him.

janbonde
16th December 2005, 16:29
Just received the Jan issue of SHIPPING TODAY AND YESTERDAY from Europe
they have a book for sale called BP Tankers A group fleet history, it contains over 500 BW photos cost £40 from Ships in Focus
I was on the BR Earl when towed to Europe from the Indian Ocean in 1950,do not know if it was the longest tow in company history,also on one of their two ships which were fitted with a towing winch the BR Baron, which was also the ship that towed us on the latter part of tow back to Europe,the Aden/Hamble leg the first 38/40 days were by the Br Fame,or Br Faith [I must be having one of those senior moments as you guys quote] not too sure The first part was 10 days steaming bound for Mombasa when the main crankshaft went,then 38/40 days round the Indian Ocean prior to Aden.Also on the Red Bank,El Morro,and BR Crown The masters were J.Atfield,J.Smythe,K.Williams.J.Stockman. in the same order as above

John_F
16th December 2005, 19:07
Hi Salty,
I had one 3 week trip with Captain J.T.Smythe in 1962. By that time, he was a Senior Post Master & was serving aboard the British Queen. I was Senior Apprentice & we did one trip, Finnart - Tripoli - Finnart. I cannot really remember too much about him.
I can remember reading about your epic tow in back copies of the BP Apprentices' Newsletter & I believe that at that time it was the longest tow, certainly in the Company's history, if not the British Merchant Navy. I seem to remember that there was another towing incident in the very early 50s involving the Duke & the Princess. Lots of sarcastic comments in the press (nudge, nudge, wink, wink - the Duke of Edinburgh & Princess Elizabeth - "The Princess with the Duke in tow" - or was it the other way round?)
Kind regards,
John F

janbonde
16th December 2005, 20:45
Hi JOHN_F it would have been the BR DUKE she was the other vessel with a towing winch aft,with regard to J T Smythe he had a brother who was also a Master went by the name of Ginger if I remember right but not to his face. The last I saw or heard about him he a shore super, he came on board of us just before locking out of Swansea bound for Kiwi it was 21-00 hrs xmas eve should have heard the comments from all the other ships in the Queens dock that was on the BR Baron.The Senior Master in those days if I remember was Daddy Mcivor,fogive me if any Scots person who reads this find it the wrong way to spell the name.I was with him for 30 days signed on the Br Realm bound for Finnart I was trying to get to Europe then home to Canada from Mena

KenLin39
17th December 2005, 01:25
Ahoy cynter,

Found a piccie, belongs to Des Jenkins picture tells, so the credits to him.

Surely 1921 . Ken.

cynter
17th December 2005, 03:16
Ahoy Ruud...
Thanks a million.... you didn't waste much time in answering my plea...
I'll locate Des Jenkins and show my gratitude.
Thanks again... Cynter

cynter
17th December 2005, 03:22
G'day KenLin39...
Yeah... you're right 'twas 21 not 22.
After seeing the photo, I can't imagine how I coped on such a tub....!!
Cheers... Cynter

RonF
15th July 2006, 21:58
My BP CV:

Border Shepherd 1976
British Patience 1976 -77
British Kennet 1977
South Shields M&T College 1977-78
British Hawthorn 1978
British Dragoon 1978

Ron

(Edit: Apologies - I've just realised I've resurrected an old thread, but it seemed the right place to put this :) )

rushie
16th July 2006, 17:40
I have an Excel spreadsheet with 30 years detail of my dad's BP ships (...joining, leaving, grades etc...all from his Discharge book.) 1955-1985.

If it is of interest to anyone...then feel free to shout..!

Cheers,

Rushie

wa002f0328
16th July 2006, 18:01
hi guys, my British Tanker c.v. is

British Flag 56-57
Clyde Chancellor 62
British Patrol 63
British Craftsman 63-64 enjoyed every minute.

John_F
17th July 2006, 10:18
I have an Excel spreadsheet with 30 years detail of my dad's BP ships (...joining, leaving, grades etc...all from his Discharge book.) 1955-1985.

If it is of interest to anyone...then feel free to shout..!

Cheers,

RushieRushie,
Yes please - love to see it.
Will be down in your neck of the woods in a couple of weeks.
Kind regards,
John.

paul0510
17th July 2006, 11:01
Hey, Rushie I Wanna Look As Well!!!!

RonF
18th July 2006, 21:13
I have an Excel spreadsheet with 30 years detail of my dad's BP ships (...joining, leaving, grades etc...all from his Discharge book.) 1955-1985.

If it is of interest to anyone...then feel free to shout..!


Sent you a PM :)

Thanks,

Ron

offcumdum sanddancer
8th September 2006, 23:20
Hi Ron F,

I was on Border Shepherd 1976 , joined in Immingham dry dock. First trip doing motor chiefs ticket. where were were you?

Keith Perriman

john shaw
9th September 2006, 01:03
here is another of British Scout

john martin
16th September 2006, 18:59
hi rushie
was one of them british lady,i have a photo of her but no imfo.i was on her 54-55.thank you
john martin

R58484956
17th September 2006, 17:01
MV British Lady 6140 tons Built 1951 by Smiths Dock Co Ltd, South Bank Middlesborough. 3 cyl diesel by Hawthorn Leslie, Newcastle.406.7 x 56.2 x 30.0. DF, ESD, GyC, Radar. Cruiser stern. Engines aft. British flag. Registered London. Owned by BTC,

john martin
20th September 2006, 06:34
thanks for imfo.but i have 2 photos of br.lady one must be an older type,any details please.
many thanks
john martin

alastairjs
27th September 2006, 00:03
Hi, John there were only ever two "British Lady"s and R58484956 has given you the stats on number two except that: 8th August 1963 she arrived at Bo'ness for demolition by P. & W. MacLellan Ltd. The first British Lady was built by J. L. Thompson & Sons Ltd., Sunderland, (Yard No. 548). She was launched on the 19th October 1922 for the British Tanker Co. Ltd. Completed in February 1923, 9,715 DWT, 412' LBP, 54.8' Breadth. Powered by 2 steam tubines built by the Metropolitan-Vickers Electric Co. Ltd., Manchester, double reduction geared to a single shaft, developing 3,200 bhp. She was sold to the British Admiralty on the 31st July 1939 for use as an RFA oiler at Scapa Flow & Northern Waters during WWII. Her name remained unchanged and she continued to be manned by BP crews. She was sold for scrapping at Sunderland in 1946 having got through the war unscathed. Hope that helps,
Regards,
Alastair

john martin
28th September 2006, 10:02
hi alistair,
thank you for the imfo.on british lady no.1.that proves to me i sailed on no.2 in 54-55.the two photos i have of the ships look very similar so i still have to work out which is 1 or 2.
thank you and all the best
j.martin

Larry Crowley
14th October 2006, 06:40
I sailed on a few BP, called BTC then.
British Merchant, British Talent, British Strength, Rogue River. I did hear the Rogue River was converted to bulk, anybody know?

Mac
14th October 2006, 10:58
BTC aka Better Times Coming.

John_F
14th October 2006, 13:52
I sailed on a few BP, called BTC then.
British Merchant, British Talent, British Strength, Rogue River. I did hear the Rogue River was converted to bulk, anybody know?
Larry,
Rogue River was completed by Alabama Dockyard, Mobile, Alabama in 1944 for the US Maritime Commission. She was purchased by BP on May 13th 1947. BP sold her on October 29th 1959 to A/S Gerrards Rederi of Kristiansand, Norway for use as an electricity generating station & she was renamed Hunsfors. In 1960 she was renamed Apache. In 1961 she was converted to a bulk acarrier & a new forepart was fitted in Hamburg by Blom & Voss AG. Her length was increased to 574.5 feet & her dwt tonnage to 24,018. In 1968 she was sold to Philippine Pacific shipping Co of Panama & renamed Pacmerchant. She went to Kaohsiung for scrapping on February 26th 1977.
Photo attached of her as Rogue River, courtesy of Norman Middlemiss, The British Tankers.
Kind regards,
John F.

Hamish Mackintosh
14th October 2006, 17:58
Hello Paul, Graham has been collecting ALL crew members names and dates on Bp ships from Deck/Pantry boys up. Ken.

Have any of you "old tanker men"sailed with an AB by the name of Fred Nankerville(spelling might be a tad off) he spent his entire seagoing life with BP I believe, I met him in Duneden when he was aboard the British Swordfish ,I was aboard the Ivy Bank ,and then many years later sailed with him on the British Reliance

graham
14th October 2006, 19:44
sailded rogue river 29/12/52 to 27/03/53 swansea to freamantle 28 day back to mena then sweden then uk paid of less than 3 months regards graham

Larry Crowley
14th October 2006, 23:55
Thank you for that John, she lasted a long time, a good age, must have been all the good work I did, lol.

Tony Sprigings
17th October 2006, 11:06
Seeing the name of Captain J.T. Smyth prompts me to mention that I sailed with him in 1948/49 aboard the British Success. I was uncertificated Third Mate and he was an immense help to me. He used to force me to study and had extreme patience in testing me on my 'Articles'. I always consider that he was the most influential character in my seagoing career.
Tony Sprigings

john shaw
17th October 2006, 15:02
I sailed on a few BP, called BTC then.
British Merchant, British Talent, British Strength, Rogue River. I did hear the Rogue River was converted to bulk, anybody know?

Here's the British Talent of 1952

Larry Crowley
18th October 2006, 06:18
Thank you John, i have now gained 3 pictures since I came on this site.

normanbanks
1st November 2006, 21:25
does anybody know what happened to the british oak? out there guys???

John_F
2nd November 2006, 09:27
Hi Larry,
British Oak was launched on May 28th 1953 & completed on October 16th of that year by Smiths Dock Co of Middlesborough for the BTC (BP). She worked for BP for 19 years before going to Vinaroz in Spain for demolition on January 14th 1972.
Photo attached courtesy of Norman Middlemiss: The British Tankers

Chris Woods
23rd November 2006, 09:35
BP has stored all it's archives at Warwick University:

http://www2.warwick.ac.uk/services/library/mrc/holdings/

http://www.bp.com/genericarticle.do?categoryId=2010123&contentId=2001507

bparchive@bp.com


I've used them for researching the fleet's MAC ships and wartime losses for a small presentation to Bletchley Park of some ship's photos from Head Office. My father worked at Bletchley Park (BP !) during WW2

The archivists at Warwick were most helpful,
regards,
Chris

Roberth1
23rd November 2006, 13:52
Hi Steve I just found this sight I give below my cv although the memory may not be so good about some dates and ships.

Engineer Apprentice 1958 to 1963
College Hull
Viscount App 1961 to 1962 (Just a 13month trip)
Flag App 1962 to 1963
Kestrel J/E March 63 to August 63
Workman J/E Nov 63 to Feb 64
Fame J/E May 64 to Dec 64
First Half of 64 did and passed Seconds (Motor) ticket
Seafarer 3/E May 65 to Jan 66
Light Ex3/E Jan 66 to Feb 66 Brought home personal reasons
Holly 3/E Apr 66 to Dec 66
Laurel 3/E Feb 67 to Mar 67 Transferred
Resource 2/E Mar 67 to July 67 First 2/E's job
Trust 2/E Oct 67 to Jan 67
First Half of 68 did and passed Chief's (Motor) ticket
Aviator X3/E Aug 68 to Dec 68
Bulldog X3/E Feb 69 to Aug 69
Steam Chief's ticket Sep 69 to October 69
Power 2/E Nov 69 to May 70
Cygnet C/E Aug 70 to Feb 71
Hero C/E Cannot remeber dates
Loyalty C/E Cannot rember dates
Kennet C/E May 73 to Sep 75 (2 year permanent appoitment system and I stood by during building)
Dart C/E Dec 75 to Feb 78 ( 2 year permanent appointment)
Pioneer C/E May 78 to Oct 79 ( 2 year pernanent appointment)
Seconded to Office Crew Team Project 79 until 81

New Construction of the 109's
Hebburn Inspector of the BP Achiever 81 until 83
Belfast Inspector of the British Success until 84

Success C/E Feb 84 to Nov 85

Made Redundant like everyone 1986

Under the new system

Respect C/E Mar 86 to Sep 86
C/E Jan 87 to Apr 87
BP Vigour C/E Apr 87 to Jul 87
Gas Enterprise C/E Sep 87 to Jan 89

Then saw the light and went off to better things away from BP

Robert Hodgson

done it
17th December 2006, 23:20
hi all i see lots of bp names . does anyone know anything about the . British Navigator.was deckhand on her in 1962 never see any pics of her . there was another the same name a few years later.

ruud
31st December 2006, 01:14
Ahoy Ruud...
Thanks a million.... you didn't waste much time in answering my plea...
I'll locate Des Jenkins and show my gratitude.
Thanks again... Cynter

Ahoy Cynter,
This one took a little longer, more then a year!!
But here another shot of the Scout:

Indie Boy
10th May 2007, 17:01
What happened to the British Cavalier a diguised cargo ship
We returned to South Shields for it to convertedto look like a tanker but heard no more of her that was in 1947 a life time ago

How many of these were there?
During the early 50's I was a nav. app.on the British Commando, which also started out disguised as a dry cargo ship, her name then was EMPIRE CHAPMAN.

Indie Boy
10th May 2007, 17:08
What happened to the British Cavalier a diguised cargo ship
We returned to South Shields for it to convertedto look like a tanker but heard no more of her that was in 1947 a life time ago

During the early 50's I was a nav. app. on the BRITISH COMMANDO, which also started out during the war disguised as a dry cargo ship, her name then was EMPIRE CHAPMAN.

jim brindley
12th May 2007, 11:17
notice no menshien british promise built around 1944 ,ithink while being buit was dameged in a air raid but not sure .jim

barnsey
15th May 2007, 10:32
OK .... heres my list of BP Tankers and Deck staff I sailed with ... you might have to print it off ...

David Barnes
Oct 1959 - Mar1974

barnsey
15th May 2007, 10:59
Robert ... were you on the Viscount when she received cargo from Br venture which was laid up in Barry Docks ....

Barnsey

hughcon45
27th March 2008, 02:23
hi roberth 1just seen your list of ships i must have been on british kestrel same time as you i joined in glasgow 18th march 1963 payed off southampton 7th sep.1963 i was a cabin boy.from glasgow.

Chris Woods
28th March 2008, 09:26
hi all i see lots of bp names . does anyone know anything about the . British Navigator.was deckhand on her in 1962 never see any pics of her . there was another the same name a few years later.
Hi Mike,

Only just seen your enquiry. You might find a photo of her at Google Images.
I last saw her in 1963 when I was on her sister the 'Defender.

Built 1950, Sunderland Off. No. 184357
Last cargo 22.6.1964 ('Grain)
Scrapped Bruge 7.64

Chris

Roberth1
28th March 2008, 16:36
Robert ... were you on the Viscount when she received cargo from Br venture which was laid up in Barry Docks ....

Barnsey

Hi Barnsey

No did not happen in my time on her which was from July 61 until August 62.
Robert

Roberth1
28th March 2008, 16:38
hi roberth 1just seen your list of ships i must have been on british kestrel same time as you i joined in glasgow 18th march 1963 payed off southampton 7th sep.1963 i was a cabin boy.from glasgow.


Yes, this is the same trip, I was J/E joined in haer guarantee dry dock, seem to remember going down to Australia and New Zealand and then like you I left at Hamble.

Robert

twogrumpy
28th March 2008, 21:41
My BP CV.

Osprey 68-69
Guardsman 69/70
Fern 70
Sovereign 70
Comet 70/71
Hussar 71/72
Mariner 72/73
Hussar 73
Unity 74
Tenacity 75 to 78
Trident 78 to 81
Renown 81/82
Purpose (Brunei Bay) 82 to 84
Security 84/85
Energy 85
Wye 85/86
British Home 86 to 2008

twogrumpy

John_F
28th March 2008, 22:30
Twogrumpy,
I see that you did nearly 2 years in Brunei Bay. Was this the picnic that I imagine or was it otherwise? Did you come across A.E.Sainty? I believe he was in command of the mother ship for part of the time.
Kind regards,
John.

trevflstn
28th March 2008, 23:13
My BP CV

1.British Grenadier October 72–February 73 Cadet
2.British Fern March 72-August 73 Cadet
3.British Energy February 74-June 74 Cadet
4.British Robin August 74–December 74 Cadet
5.British Norness January 75–May 75 Cadet
6.BritishFidelity June 75–August 75 Cadet
7.British Beech April 76–September 76 3/O
8.British Trident December 76–February 77 3/O
9.British Renown March 77–April 77 3/O
10.British Esk July 77 – November 77 3/O
11.British Venture March 78 – April 78 3/O
12.British Commerce March 78 – July 78 3/O
13.British Security April 79 – August 79 3/O
14.British Trident November 79 – March 80 2/O
15.British Wye June 80 – October 80 2/O
16.British Dragoon February 81 – June 81 2/O
17.British Explorer September 81 – October 81 2/O
18.British Gull November 81 – January 82 2/O
19.British Purpose January 82 – March 82 2/O

I was in Brunei when we transferred the base from the Gull to the Purpose. Tony Sainty was master for some of the time I was there, a real gentleman. Thre was a rumour that he had been offered a job on the Sultan's "Yacht" when he retired.

derekhore
29th March 2008, 14:08
My BP CV

Trust .. Oct 70/Nov 70 .. Cadet
Unity .. Feb 71/Aug 71 .. Cadet
Captain ..Feb 72/July 72 .. Cadet
Admiral .. Aug 72/Jan 73 .. Cadet
Laurel .. March 73/June 73 .. Cadet
Robin .. Aug 73/Oct 73 .. Cadet
Kestrel .. April 74/May 74 .. Cadet
Neath .. May 74/June 74 .. 3/0
Energy ..July 74/Nov 74 .. 3/0
Cavalier .. Jan 75/May 75 .. 3/0
Trent .. July 75/Oct 75 .. 3/0
Pele .. May 76/ Sept 76 .. 3/0
Vine .. Jan 77/Feb 77 .. 3/0

twogrumpy
29th March 2008, 21:36
John
Did not know Tony Sainty other than by reputation, seem to recall this was good and that he was decent chap.
I went out to prepare things for the Purpose/Progress rafting, quite good as I think I spent about 5 weeks living in the hotel ashore before I had to live out in the bay on the base ship.
On the whole it was quite relaxed, regular mail, no problem with reliefs, daywork, plenty of time to drink beer, though this was a problem to some.
Interesting to see the equipment or lack of it on the layed up ships, some wrecks, Cedros the salt carrier for one and the Havdrodt that kept falling over due to creep on the tank valves.
A pretty good experience all round really, a good couple of years.
twogrumpy

John_F
31st March 2008, 20:55
Twogrumpy,
Thanks for that - sounded like an interesting time. I didn't realise that you were looking after non BP vessels as well. How did you control the listing on the Havdrodt if she had no power aboard?
Kind regards,
John.

hughcon45
6th April 2008, 01:13
Yes, this is the same trip, I was J/E joined in haer guarantee dry dock, seem to remember going down to Australia and New Zealand and then like you I left at Hamble.

Robert

yes remember going to kwinana outside freemantle then round aussie coast then new zealand,think she went aden and gulf ,but it aloong time ago. hugh.

hughesy
6th April 2008, 08:00
Hello I wonder if any of you BP men know these R/O's I was at Hull tech with in the early 70's

Pete Stewart (I think he was from Hull or near by)

Tim Warburton ( he was from Manchester)

Both where on course from BP tankers

all the best
Hughesy

paul0510
6th April 2008, 11:24
Hughesy,

Tim Warburton rings a bell. Thick, longish, curly hair, prominent nose and enjoyed his beer. Can't recall exactly what ship, but at a guess either the Willow in '70 or the Hawthorn in '73.
P.S. see you live in Portland. Lovely part of the world, my in-laws live down on the 101 in Florence.

hughesy
6th April 2008, 15:38
Hello Paul
Well it sounds like Tim specially, the liking a beer part?
He was a really nice guy, thought he might have been on this site.
Would like to touch bases with him again.
Yeah its nice round here and Florence is a nice town.
Many thanks
All the best
Hughesy

derekhore
7th April 2008, 10:56
[QUOTE=paul0510;205999]Hughesy,

Thick, longish, curly hair, prominent nose and enjoyed his beer. ......QUOTE]


:D
I can think of many BP Sparkies who fit that description ... though not many were "thick!!" (Jester)

Gordon L Smeaton
18th April 2008, 16:35
BP CV
Hussar Nov 66 Jun 67
Chancellor Aug 67 Jul 68
Holly Jan 69 Mar 69
Glory Mar 69 Jul 69
Kiwi Oct 69 Mar 70
Bulldog Jun 70 Nov 70
Willow Feb 71 Aug 71
Maple Nov 71 Apr 72
Trust Jul 72 Sept 72
Ensign Jan 73 Jun 73
Admiral Sep 73 Feb 74
Energy May 74 Oct 74
Respect Jan 75 May 75
Gannet Aug 75 Nov 75
Scientist Apr 76 Aug 76
Vine Mar 77 Jun 77
Ranger Aug 77 Dec 77
Dart Apr 78 Jul 78
Mokran Nov 78 Mar 79
Patience Jun 79 Nov 79
Tabriz Mar 80 Oct 80
Promise Feb 81 May 81
Dragoon Aug 81 Dec 82 (2 yr appointment took her to scrap)
Ranger Mar 83 Jul 85
ESV Iolair Jan 86 Sep 90
OPV Seillean/ESV Iolair Dec 90 Nov 92 (Alternbated between both vessels)
OPV Seillean Mar 93 Jun 99
Success Jul 99 Feb 2000
Loch Rannoch May 00 Oct 03
Shahamah Nov 03 Mar 04
Loch Rannoch Jun 04 Nov 06

After redundancy in 86 if I had'nt transferred into the North Sea who knows what might have happened, but enjoyed the short trips and one for one so stayed.

Retired after 40 years 1 day with BP in various guises, direct employ, agency etc.

Acergy Eagle May 07 Apr 08

Again retired.

JamesM
18th April 2008, 21:12
My BP CV

Gannet ..... Dec 67 to Aug 68 ... J/E
Patrol ....... Nov 68 to June 69 ...J/E
Seafarer ... Aug 69 to Sept 69 ...4/E
Mallard ..... Sept 69 to Dec 69 ...4/E
Centaur .... Jan 70 to Apr 70 ...4/E
Cormorant ..July 70 to Dec 70 ...3/E
Kiwi .......... Oct 71 to Mar 72 ...3/E
Maple ....... Oct 72 to Mar 73 ...3/E
Test ........ June 73 to Nov 73 ..3/E
Spey ........ May 74 to Aug 74 ..2/E
Mallard ..... Nov 74 to Dec 74 ...2/E
Vine ........ May 75 to Nov 75 ...2/E
Severn .... May 76 to sept 76 ...2/E
Marun ..... Dec 76 to May 77 ...2/E
Trent ..... Aug 77 to Dec 77 ...2/E
Respect .. May 78 to Jul 78 ......x3/E
Reliance .. Sept 78 to Dec 78 ...x3/E
Trident ... June 79 to Oct 79 ....x3/E
Mokran ... Mar 80 to July 80 ....C/E ( Airlifted to hospital due to serious illness 12 July 80).
Contract terminated on Medical grounds.
Bye Bye James, on the beach.

And the rest is history, as they say!!

JamesM

paul0510
18th April 2008, 22:56
Gordon,

paid off the Willow as 3M 23.2.71 in Grain. Guess you must have joined there? Do you remember who you relieved? OM was D. Othick.

Gordon L Smeaton
19th April 2008, 11:04
Paul

Crew was as follows
Capt Bpb Othick
C/O Gerry Luff
2/o Tony de St Croix
3/O Jim Ambrose
C/E Johm NcLean
2/E Andy Langer
3/E Nigel Cossens
4/E George Mitchell
Elec Vic Baker
Cat/Off P Young


I relieved Ray Nummey the R/O, continued trading NWE with two lub oil runs round the Med later, good trip. If I remember correctly the 3/O who relieved you was uncert, the OM Bob gave him a hard time, but I think he survived.

Yours

Gordon

paul0510
19th April 2008, 19:12
Oh! Gordon, the names bring back faces, lad!
Ray Nummey, Liverpudlian, was a great mate of mine, we spent a lot of time together off-watch, aboard and ashore. Tony, blond hair and 'tash, the 2M, came from the 'smoke' wielding his posh-sounding handle and drove a TVR if I am not mistaken. Gerry Luff an excellent shipmate & Mate and Nigel Cossens, salt-of-the-earth from the West Country? Never had a problem with the OM, being from the North you just had to be straight with him. (Thumb)

Gordon L Smeaton
20th April 2008, 17:55
Paul

As you say, Gerry Luff salt of the earth had the opportunity later to sail with him as Master and had'nt changed a bit, Tony 2/O, suave as a bucket od ****, but a wonderful guy, was it not a Marcos he drove rather than the TVR, Nigel another great bloke, the Old Man was fine, when taking over from Ray he said can be a funny bloke, so first day sailing from Grain, heard this bellow "Sparkie" expecting me to leave the radio room on the stb'd side to go to his office port fw'd, so me being me shouted straight back yeah what do you want, from there on in no problems, believe he ended up in Aberdeen at the boom time.

Regards

Gordon

Treborvfr
24th February 2010, 23:05
Thought I'd ressurect this old thread!

Bob Bryne, R/O:

Pride.................Nov 74 to Jun 75 (as Junior R/O)
Holly.................Sept 75 to Jan 76
Border Chieftain..May 76 to Sept 76
Hazel................Mar 77 to Aug 77
Fidelity.............July 78 to Nov 78
Trent...............Jan 79 to May 79
Dart.................Oct 79 (for 4 weeks as VSO)
Ivy..................Nov 79 (for 3 weeks as VSO)
Reliance...........Jan 80 to May 80
Respect...........Aug 80 to Nov 80
Spey...............Feb 81 to June 81
Tay.................Oct 81 to Feb 82
Dragoon...........May 82 to July 82
Renown ...........Oct 82 to Mar 83
Fidelity.............Aug 83 to Oct 83
Tweed.............Mar 84 to July 84
Tweed.............Nov 84 to Mar 85
BP Energy.........May 85 to Sep 85
Test................Dec 85 to April 86

I've spent 22 of the past 24 years as a Telecoms/Computer Eng on a Gas Platform offshore where another ex BP R/O, Bill McKinlay, is now one of the OIMs (Offshore Installation Manager).

Longfellow
11th March 2010, 01:52
Twogrumpy,
Thanks for that - sounded like an interesting time. I didn't realise that you were looking after non BP vessels as well. How did you control the listing on the Havdrodt if she had no power aboard?
Kind regards,
John.

All these names - real blasts from the past! Gordon (Smeaton) - I heard you retired from the Rannoch; pity I got eased out just prior. No matter. Vic Baker - remember him? Real character; professional flatulator - described by one Old Man (Robin Stevens, dead now, bless him) - as the only man he ever knew with mud-flaps on his shorts.

Right then, you have a dead ship, with iffy valves, and shifting ballast.
Obviously, the water has to go back from whence it came.
Now, the ships were not quite dead (incidentally, I was base 3rd on the Progress in 82), in having - usually - a hired CAT generator aft, going in through the shore breaker.
So we had air compressors. We also had Wilden (usually) salvage pumps,, around the 15 and 30 ton/hour sizes - M15 and M30.
The M15's were a bit small for ballast shifting.
But they all had a problem pumping anything over about 50 foot head, and with the deck 80 foot up, this could be a problem.
So the rig was, one pump on a rope with air line. Half way up the rope was one 45-gallon drum, perforated bottom, with a second pump in it, with own rope, airline, and discharge pipe.
Lower pump ran faster than the upper, to keep the barrell flooded, and the upper humped it over the deck into the required tank.
We'd tried hose to the suction of the second pump, but the pipe connection made the M30 unwieldy, and we often couldn't get them through - or out of - the tank hatch again (although Havdrodt, being a Bulkie, wasn't a problem, that was more to do with having been laid up hatches open. 5 bloody great swimming pools).
First month or so, I couldn't lift an M30 on my own - by the end of month 2, I could, like the rest, handle the whole pump string on my own, and achieve running pump repairs as well, which of course meant dragging it all out (which was why the 45-gallon drum had a perforated bottom), doing the pumps, and heaving it all back in again.
Big problem....the idea was to keep the damn ships de-humidified, and using the compressors for days on end ruined all our efforts. But less embarrasing than one falling over.

Happy (and much fitter!) days.

Arthur.

ernhelenbarrett
11th March 2010, 05:59
My only 4 BP Tankers were the:
British Drummer
British Bugler both around 1947-1948
British Gratitude 1955 approx
BP Endeavour (Aussie) about 1969
Ern Barrett ex GTZM/AWA/OTC

tsell
11th March 2010, 08:57
I have read all of the BP/BTC threads and posts. Isn't there ANYBODY who sailed on the 'British Caution'? Seems like she was a ghost ship!
I was on her in 52/53, or was I...?

Taff

NoMoss
11th March 2010, 09:53
My too brief 'career' with Bp was in 1959 on the British Flag. We did three trips to the Mexican Gulf and back to UK with aviation fuel amongst other things.
There were two highlights: in Houston a large American cargo ship lost steering and was being swept towards us by the very fast tide in the Ship Canal. The Old Man ordered everyone ashore for safety, except they forgot yours truly who was fast akip in his bunk. When I surfaced later in the morning I was met by horrified expressions and 'Oh we forgot you!'. I was a bit miffed but it served me right for getting up so late.
The other one was when we suffered damage to one of our lifeboats in bad weather and had to go to Hamble for a few days for repairs. I lived then (as now) on the Isle of Wight so was able have things sent over. It was also my 21st birthday so was able to celebrate it in the Bugle. After about three days the Old Man suggested it had gone on long enough and I should stop bringing beer back in such large quantities.
I enjoyed the trip so much that I wanted to stay on but Marconi had other ideas.
Soon after, I 'met' the British Flag as we passed in the Med on my way to the Persion Gulf on the Exmoor and the R/O who had relieved me told me that BP were now employing their own R/Os, I added BP to the list of companies I was writing to but Union-Castle offered me a job first.

David Williams
5th May 2010, 10:18
Thanks Steve, 'twas I. So let me start the ball rollin' with my BP 'CV' !

Navigating App on British Osprey 1967
---------"------------- on British Patrol 1967-68
---------"------------- on British Venture 1968
---------"------------- on British Hero 1969

3/O on British Destiny 1969-70
3/O on British Willow 1970-71
3/O on British Beacon 1971

2/O on British Valour 1972
2/O on British Fulmar 1972-73
2/O on British Hawthorn 1973-74
2/O on British Argosy 1975

N.B for all you ex-Eng.Apps/Offs. out there you might like to visit Graham Wallace's site at:
http://members.allstream.net/~wallaceg/

Over to you, lads.

Hi Paul.
I also sailed on the British Hero,way back in
1957,I was wondering if they were the same
ship?.

David Williams(R583900)

paul0510
6th May 2010, 11:30
Hi Dave,

probably was as she was about the end of her tether, see here:

http://www.shipsnostalgia.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/19496/title/british-hero/cat/503


Paul

rodhaigh
7th May 2010, 15:09
TSell..British Caution was my first ship in 1956-7, She could have been a ghost ship, as trundling round the Cape at 8 knots she wasn't sighted in port much.
In the 9 months I was in her she carried 3 cargoes and one of those was from Swansea to Rotterdam.
Cheers
Rod H

tsell
8th May 2010, 09:36
Hi Rod

So she did exist! I was beginning to wonder if I had imagined it as I've not been able to find anyone who sailed on her at any time.
I did three trips and left her in Wellington in '53. I can only remember a few names, but they had probably left before your time: Ivor Drake; Raymond Ali; Stidolph; Gibson, all on deck, Chambers, Donkeyman and the cook was a big Cornishman who made the best curries I have ever had. I think the master's name was Flamsteed.
We had a lot of engine problems and as you say, she was very slow.

Regards,

Taff

BillH
8th May 2010, 09:42
TSell..British Caution was my first ship in 1956-7, She could have been a ghost ship, as trundling round the Cape at 8 knots she wasn't sighted in port much.
In the 9 months I was in her she carried 3 cargoes and one of those was from Swansea to Rotterdam.
Cheers
Rod H
BRITISH CAUTION (1946 - 1961) Ocean going tanker.
O.N. 180823. 8,552g. 4,923n. 12,490d. 469.1 x 61.9 x 33.9 feet.
4-cyl. 2 S.C.S.A. (23-5/8" x 91-5/16") Doxford type engine made by the shipbuilder. 3,435 B.H.P.
21.9.1945: Launched by Swan, Hunter & Wigham, Richardson Ltd., Newcastle (Yard No. 1764), for the British Tanker Company Ltd.
2.1946: Completed.
1.6.1956: Owners restyled as B.P. Tanker Company Ltd.
16.8.1959: Laid up at Barry.
10.12.1961: Arrived in tow at Newport, for demolition by J. Cashmore Ltd.

Billieboy
8th May 2010, 11:20
BRITISH CAUTION (1946 - 1961) Ocean going tanker.
O.N. 180823. 8,552g. 4,923n. 12,490d. 469.1 x 61.9 x 33.9 feet.
4-cyl. 2 S.C.S.A. (23-5/8" x 91-5/16") Doxford type engine made by the shipbuilder. 3,435 B.H.P.
21.9.1945: Launched by Swan, Hunter & Wigham, Richardson Ltd., Newcastle (Yard No. 1764), for the British Tanker Company Ltd.
2.1946: Completed.
1.6.1956: Owners restyled as B.P. Tanker Company Ltd.
16.8.1959: Laid up at Barry.
10.12.1961: Arrived in tow at Newport, for demolition by J. Cashmore Ltd.

She was laid up on the buoys in No. 1 dock at Barry in Barry, this was a different position to the Birds who were laid up alongside in No. 2 dock.

tsell
9th May 2010, 01:23
Bill/Billie

Thanks for the info.

Taff

kauvaka
9th May 2010, 08:00
Hi Rod

So she did exist! I was beginning to wonder if I had imagined it as I've not been able to find anyone who sailed on her at any time.
I did three trips and left her in Wellington in '53. I can only remember a few names, but they had probably left before your time: Ivor Drake; Raymond Ali; Stidolph; Gibson, all on deck, Chambers, Donkeyman and the cook was a big Cornishman who made the best curries I have ever had. I think the master's name was Flamsteed.
We had a lot of engine problems and as you say, she was very slow.

Regards,

Taff

Sailed with Captain FLAMSTEED (or was it FLAMSTEAD) on the British Valour 14 October 1959- 18 June 19 60, five trips then drydock @Newcastle

tsell
9th May 2010, 10:17
Sailed with Captain FLAMSTEED (or was it FLAMSTEAD) on the British Valour 14 October 1959- 18 June 19 60, five trips then drydock @Newcastle

You could be right on the spelling Kauvaka.
I recall that he was a kind man who cared for his men, which was more that I could say about the mate and bosun.

Taff

ALBY2
5th October 2014, 22:18
Hi this is my history with BP
SHIP JOIN DATE JOIN PORT LEAVE DATE LEAVE PORT RANK
British Security 26/07/73 Little Aden 29/12/73 Noumea Cadet
British Surveyor 26/01/75 Isle of Grain 12/06/75 Ras Al Khaimah Cadet
British Commerce 16/08/75 Skara Manga 28/01/76 Isle of Grain Junior
British Fern 04/06/76 South Shields 29/09/76 Sidney Junior
Marun (British Severn) 03/01/77 Dubai 23/04/77 Bahrain Junior
British Tenacity 02/07/77 Rotterdam 10/11/77 Rotterdam Fourth
British Commerce 03/04/78 Hound Point 01/08/78 Trieste Fourth
British Poplar 23/11/78 Grangemouth 21/12/78 Swansea Fourth
British Avon 04/09/79 Cotonou 29/12/79 Rotterdam Third
British Trident 20/04/80 Isle of Grain 28/05/80 Mina Sagr Third
British Gull 02/07/80 Labuan 01/11/80 Labuan Third
British Maple 15/08/81 Hamburg 28/09/81 Swansea Third
British Wye 18/10/81 Anacortes 12/02/82 Singapore Third
British Avon 05/06/82 Portsmouth 14/12/82 Ascension Island Third
British Resolution 19/08/83 Las Palmas 30/11/83 Le havre Third
Gas Enterprise 10/02/84 Flushing 24/06/84 Terneuzen Third
British Purpose 08/12/84 Labuan 19/01/85 Labuan Third
British Trident 19/01/85 Labuan 13/04/85 Labuan Third
British Tenacity 11/09/85 Antwerp 04/02/86 Dunkerque Third
Alan Bristow

stevekelly10
6th October 2014, 14:45
Hi this is my history with BP
SHIP JOIN DATE JOIN PORT LEAVE DATE LEAVE PORT RANK
British Security 26/07/73 Little Aden 29/12/73 Noumea Cadet
British Surveyor 26/01/75 Isle of Grain 12/06/75 Ras Al Khaimah Cadet
British Commerce 16/08/75 Skara Manga 28/01/76 Isle of Grain Junior
British Fern 04/06/76 South Shields 29/09/76 Sidney Junior
Marun (British Severn) 03/01/77 Dubai 23/04/77 Bahrain Junior
British Tenacity 02/07/77 Rotterdam 10/11/77 Rotterdam Fourth
British Commerce 03/04/78 Hound Point 01/08/78 Trieste Fourth
British Poplar 23/11/78 Grangemouth 21/12/78 Swansea Fourth
British Avon 04/09/79 Cotonou 29/12/79 Rotterdam Third
British Trident 20/04/80 Isle of Grain 28/05/80 Mina Sagr Third
British Gull 02/07/80 Labuan 01/11/80 Labuan Third
British Maple 15/08/81 Hamburg 28/09/81 Swansea Third
British Wye 18/10/81 Anacortes 12/02/82 Singapore Third
British Avon 05/06/82 Portsmouth 14/12/82 Ascension Island Third
British Resolution 19/08/83 Las Palmas 30/11/83 Le havre Third
Gas Enterprise 10/02/84 Flushing 24/06/84 Terneuzen Third
British Purpose 08/12/84 Labuan 19/01/85 Labuan Third
British Trident 19/01/85 Labuan 13/04/85 Labuan Third
British Tenacity 11/09/85 Antwerp 04/02/86 Dunkerque Third
Alan Bristow

Hi Alan I was the other X3/E with you on the Trident 20/4/80 to 28/5/80 :)

Regards Steve Kelly

retfordmackem
6th October 2014, 22:36
Just received the Jan issue of SHIPPING TODAY AND YESTERDAY from Europe
they have a book for sale called BP Tankers A group fleet history, it contains over 500 BW photos cost £40 from Ships in Focus
I was on the BR Earl when towed to Europe from the Indian Ocean in 1950,do not know if it was the longest tow in company history,also on one of their two ships which were fitted with a towing winch the BR Baron, which was also the ship that towed us on the latter part of tow back to Europe,the Aden/Hamble leg the first 38/40 days were by the Br Fame,or Br Faith [I must be having one of those senior moments as you guys quote] not too sure The first part was 10 days steaming bound for Mombasa when the main crankshaft went,then 38/40 days round the Indian Ocean prior to Aden.Also on the Red Bank,El Morro,and BR Crown The masters were J.Atfield,J.Smythe,K.Williams.J.Stockman. in the same order as above

When were you on BR Crown ?.Lots of posts on here about the disaster and in particular by Graham Wallace who has a bundle of info about it. Not expecting a quick reply to that query though as I just realised the date .

Graham Wallace
7th October 2014, 02:14
When were you on BR Crown ?.Lots of posts on here about the disaster and in particular by Graham Wallace who has a bundle of info about it. Not expecting a quick reply to that query though as I just realised the date .

Alan,

Well it certainly was not from crew change in Antwerp May 1966 onwards. Also the crew were from Goa! Unlikely to have European PO's?

So it must have been before May 1966 and I know a few who left her at Antwerp. If you have a look at his profile and can understand it you are a better man than I

I hate limited profiles!

Graham

retfordmackem
7th October 2014, 09:33
Alan,

Well it certainly was not from crew change in Antwerp May 1966 onwards. Also the crew were from Goa! Unlikely to have European PO's?

So it must have been before May 1966 and I know a few who left her at Antwerp. If you have a look at his profile and can understand it you are a better man than I

I hate limited profiles!

Graham

So do I pal, some profiles are non existent

retfordmackem
7th October 2014, 09:39
Alan,

Well it certainly was not from crew change in Antwerp May 1966 onwards. Also the crew were from Goa! Unlikely to have European PO's?

So it must have been before May 1966 and I know a few who left her at Antwerp. If you have a look at his profile and can understand it you are a better man than I

I hate limited profiles!

Graham

So do I pal, some profiles are non existent

Duncan112
7th October 2014, 11:15
Changing the subject a little I bought a copy of Middlemiss' "British Tankers" from my local charity bookshop yesterday - I already had a copy but inside the new one was a commemorative brochure for SS British Respect's appearance at the 1977 Spithead Review (My first ship is why I bought it) - anyone know how many were printed or how they were distributed please, a copy is listed on abe books but no info about it.

stevekelly10
7th October 2014, 11:20
Changing the subject a little I bought a copy of Middlemiss' "British Tankers" from my local charity bookshop yesterday - I already had a copy but inside the new one was a commemorative brochure for SS British Respect's appearance at the 1977 Spithead Review (My first ship is why I bought it) - anyone know how many were printed or how they were distributed please, a copy is listed on abe books but no info about it.

They were sent out to every seastaff member along with a unique Bp commemorative Soveriegn coin in a plastic case !

Duncan112
7th October 2014, 12:27
Thanks Steve, have you still got yours? If so could you post a photo?

stevekelly10
7th October 2014, 12:39
Thanks Steve, have you still got yours? If so could you post a photo?

Hi Duncan. Sorry no longer have the coin, various house moves and lost in transit somewhere :)
Steve

connie
7th October 2014, 14:10
hi Duncan as a numismatist, I still have the coin in my collection as well as the br. respect spithead review booklet- if you still want a photo let me know-though knowing the gang on here there will be a photo up shortly-regards john.

Graham Wallace
7th October 2014, 17:02
Changing the subject a little I bought a copy of Middlemiss' "British Tankers" from my local charity bookshop yesterday - I already had a copy but inside the new one was a commemorative brochure for SS British Respect's appearance at the 1977 Spithead Review (My first ship is why I bought it) - anyone know how many were printed or how they were distributed please, a copy is listed on abe books but no info about it.

Duncan,

Which issue of Middlemiss' book do you have 1995 or 2005? They are slightly different. There is a 1989 issue but is physically smaller more traditional book size, I have never located one.

I have an email copy of the review brochure but have never heard of the Commemorative coin, you learn something new every day.

I have been in touch with 5 persons aboard her at the review, 3 Engineers and two Navigating.

Graham

Duncan112
7th October 2014, 17:30
Hi Graham, it's the 1995 copy - on the flyleaf it says that it is a revision of the 1989 edition.

Couple of the 89 editions here http://www.abebooks.co.uk/servlet/SearchResults?an=middlemiss&kn=tankers&sts=t

I think John Bryson who is on this site may have been on her then.

twogrumpy
7th October 2014, 17:38
Changing the subject a little I bought a copy of Middlemiss' "British Tankers" from my local charity bookshop yesterday - I already had a copy but inside the new one was a commemorative brochure for SS British Respect's appearance at the 1977 Spithead Review (My first ship is why I bought it) - anyone know how many were printed or how they were distributed please, a copy is listed on abe books but no info about it.

I have my copy of the 1977 Souvenir programme in front of me, I was not there so my assumption would be that we were either all sent one at home or they were distributed to the ships.
Mrs., who remembers everything, don't they all, thinks it was sent home.

This one?

Long gone
7th October 2014, 19:36
Hi Graham, it's the 1995 copy - on the flyleaf it says that it is a revision of the 1989 edition.

Couple of the 89 editions here http://www.abebooks.co.uk/servlet/SearchResults?an=middlemiss&kn=tankers&sts=t

I think John Bryson who is on this site may have been on her then.

Yes he was, and so, I think, was Hoppy. I was also there, and still have both my commemorative brochure, and the the coin (well it's somewhere, anyway). Everyone who was aboard received the souvenirs.

ALBY2
7th October 2014, 21:36
Hi Steve I remember her well, paddling around the tanks in an inflatable with a puncture and 20 kg annodes on board, going from air hose to air hose hanging from the tank cleaning openings. I also remember uncle John the retired HR director of head office who was a passenger to the gulf, who only smoked Galois and drank nothing but Jim Beam.
Happy Memories

Graham Wallace
8th October 2014, 00:24
Respect crew list for Spithead Review appears in June 1977 (and July 1977)

Master/Commodore, A Davies
CO, SR Montague
2M, MC Brown ( July 1977, J MacLeod, MC Brown had left)
3M, CS Renton
3M, S Tuck
DC's, MP Fawke, ME Bradshaw, JP Mawson, KJ Pape, S Clarke, D Horsburgh, SJ Pollock, HN Gates. ( July 1977 DHorsburgh and ME Bradshaw hd left)
RO's, A Williams, HFJ Sharkey ( July 1977 A Williams had left)
CE, TJ Smith
2E's, ES Whitely, NJW Davidson ( July 1977 ES Whitely had left)
3E, SJ Fish
4E I Bowers (July 1977 J Bryson had joined)
JE, PS Hopcroft, PJ Baker , "Long Gone", (July 1977 GM Garnett had joined)
Elec, SM Woolverton, CE Wilkes ,R Harris ( July 1977 CE Wilkes had left)
CO, WR Elliott

Graham

Graham Wallace
8th October 2014, 00:33
There were two J Brysons in BP ,John Bryson was a 1967 EC and Joe Bryson a1963 NA. I suddenly had second thoughts when writing the above post whether I had the correct one listed.

I know the latter but not the former.

Graham

James_C
8th October 2014, 00:55
The former was still with BP in 2005 and sailing as Chief Engineer when I bumped into him on British Pioneer.
Some well known names on the Respect crewlist!

Graham Wallace
8th October 2014, 01:07
The former was still with BP in 2005 and sailing as Chief Engineer when I bumped into him on British Pioneer.
Some well known names on the Respect crewlist!

Thanks for that Jim, the last info I had on him was 3E Security 1985 from Duncan. I'll have to look in some Ships Movements 1990's and early 2000's to see when he became CE. Getting long in the tooth now , close to 65 by my estimate.

Graham

Duncan112
8th October 2014, 14:01
Thanks for that Jim, the last info I had on him was 3E Security 1985 from Duncan. I'll have to look in some Ships Movements 1990's and early 2000's to see when he became CE. Getting long in the tooth now , close to 65 by my estimate.

Graham

http://www.shipsnostalgia.com/member.php?u=71915

http://www.shipsnostalgia.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/251955/title/run-ashorerichards/cat/500

stevekelly10
8th October 2014, 15:34
Hi Steve I remember her well, paddling around the tanks in an inflatable with a puncture and 20 kg annodes on board, going from air hose to air hose hanging from the tank cleaning openings. I also remember uncle John the retired HR director of head office who was a passenger to the gulf, who only smoked Galois and drank nothing but Jim Beam.
Happy Memories

Hi Alan yes I remember Uncle John well. BP actually supplied a stock of his favourite bonded items. I learnt early on not to get stuck in the bar with him on your own, as he wanted a drinking buddy and would keep you up to all hours :)
I also remember us earning extra "Brownie points" from the C\E for balancing the IG fans using the ship's vibration analyser! He was made up as the vibrations kept setting the fire alarms off :)
Steve

derekhore
8th October 2014, 16:39
Respect crew list for Spithead Review appears in June 1977 (and July 1977)

Elec, SM Woolverton, CE Wilkes ,R Harris ( July 1977 CE Wilkes had left)


Elvyne Wilkes I guess, from Falmouth if I remember rightly.
He was Leccy on the Admiral in 1972

GeorgeM13
8th October 2014, 19:28
Dave Horsburgh was working for BP in Grangemouth in the 90s, part of Terry Tytheridge's marine department, also there was Tony Pollock who took over from Terry when he retired.
As a bye the bye Mike Saunders was my asset manager, he had been at Hound Point before moving upriver to the Oil Jetties.
George

ninabaker
8th October 2014, 22:56
I have my copy of the 1977 Souvenir programme in front of me, I was not there so my assumption would be that we were either all sent one at home or they were distributed to the ships.
Mrs., who remembers everything, don't they all, thinks it was sent home.

This one?

I have one as well, so I am sure they must have been sent to our home addresses. I certainly wasnt involved personally.
nina

Graham Wallace
9th October 2014, 06:08
http://www.shipsnostalgia.com/member.php?u=71915

http://www.shipsnostalgia.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/251955/title/run-ashorerichards/cat/500

Thanks Duncan I'll see if I get a reply from him

Ref second URL, Respect photo, had to be taken around Oct 1983

The unknown 2M was Martin R Dickinson, ex 1974 NC ( married 8/1984, pic in Fleet News)

Unknown NC was one of 4; RD Madden, AK Dowds, J Goddard or CJ Stead

I came across Brian Beattie 1981 EC in Aug 2007 he was one of those redundant in 1986

Graham

Duncan112
9th October 2014, 11:42
John Goddard rings a bell for the Nav Cadet - don't know what happened to him - Greenhithe for the early part of his college time.

Nice to hear John got his Chief's job - a thoroughly nice man.

Long gone
11th October 2014, 22:04
Respect crew list for Spithead Review appears in June 1977 (and July 1977)

Master/Commodore, A Davies
CO, SR Montague
2M, MC Brown ( July 1977, J MacLeod, MC Brown had left)
3M, CS Renton
3M, S Tuck
DC's, MP Fawke, ME Bradshaw, JP Mawson, KJ Pape, S Clarke, D Horsburgh, SJ Pollock, HN Gates. ( July 1977 DHorsburgh and ME Bradshaw hd left)
RO's, A Williams, HFJ Sharkey ( July 1977 A Williams had left)
CE, TJ Smith
2E's, ES Whitely, NJW Davidson ( July 1977 ES Whitely had left)
3E, SJ Fish
4E I Bowers (July 1977 J Bryson had joined)
JE, PS Hopcroft, PJ Baker , "Long Gone", (July 1977 GM Garnett had joined)
Elec, SM Woolverton, CE Wilkes ,R Harris ( July 1977 CE Wilkes had left)
CO, WR Elliott

Graham

That brought back a few memories! S. Pollock and S. Clarke should be added to your list of female N/Cs , if they aren't already on it. I have before me a menu from the 'Sayonara Supper' of 29.09.77, when Mark Bradshaw left. we also had two E/Cs, William Lowe and someone who looks like G.R Watson.
John Bryson joined for a specific job, I forget the details; he had an assistant G. Garnett, J/E. When I. Bowers left, JB relieved him.

Andrew147
12th October 2014, 11:35
There was some question of the Respect making it to Spithead in time so the Reliance, in Rotterdam at the time, got a 90 grand paint job and put on standby.
Never saw any souvenir programmes or coins though.

krobins1
12th October 2014, 18:37
Here is a link to a film about this ship. My father sailed on her but I dont remember whether he was Captain or Mate at the time.

http://www.britishpathe.com/video/s-s-british-sovereign

He had a film made of one ship going up the st Lawrence which I never saw. He was master then and was on the bridge.

Keith

krobins1
12th October 2014, 18:40
http://www.britishpathe.com/video/launching-of-32-000-ton-oil-tanker-british-trader/query/BP