J & J Denholm

Steve
28th September 2005, 20:13
Can't remember who requested this one, but here it is.

Regards

Steve

Fairfield
28th September 2005, 20:36
A great company,full of Scots!!!!!! Look forward to seeing the Forum filling up.

Gulpers
29th September 2005, 09:30
Steve,

Thank you. I'm sure us ex "Diamond D" guys will fill it up!

If I put a message in the following threads advising members of the new forum, could you tranfer them over to the new location in a couple of days?

http://www.shipsnostalgia.com/showthread.php?t=2874

http://www.shipsnostalgia.com/showthread.php?t=1210

Chouan
8th June 2007, 11:49
I don't think that I was? A Scot I mean, neither was the Old Man (English), nor the 3/0 (Irish), nor the sparky (Irish), nor the Chief (English), on the other hand, that was only the first trip, on the "Friendly Carrier", OBO, later 1980's.
I only did 2 trips with them, and the second was on the "Kona", what a complete piece of s... she was! British shipbuilding at its worst!

lex
10th October 2007, 19:47
I havent sailed under Denholms but ive posted a couple of pics of Tor Hollandia and some are coming of Tor Mercia ,i have also in my possesion a couple of Denholm news from autumn 1970 and winter 1970 if these are of interest to anybody ,there is a ship profile of the Naess Endevour and crew listings etc..
Cheers Lex

ccurtis1
15th October 2007, 20:03
Not a Denholms guy and will never forgive you guys for unloading the Baknes and the Binsnes on to us i n Silver Line. What did we ever do do to deserve such an abhoration. Could'nt close the E/R sky-lights because of the fumes. The Flue discharged a thick black plume on a 'good' day, and the emmissions from the E/R skylights was almost as black. The derricks (cranes, and I use that term very loosely) could not lift a dancing girls skirt in Mombasa. The main engines!!!! There is reputedly a ward in Broadmoor filled with engineers from these ships. Come you Denholm guys, what did we Silver Liners do to deserve such hardships. They, the two abominations became the the Silvertweed and the Silverclyde. If they ran for 24 Hrs non stop, the engineers\ went on the p**s. It was a sober voyage.
Ccurtis1, A Silver Liner

John Cassels
16th October 2007, 08:19
My heart bleeds for you Ccurtis1. Did 8 months on the Baknes in 1972.
You must admit that the accomodation was very good , even the 2nd.mate
had his own seperate bedroom !!. Seriously , they were all that great. I have
memories of very frequent stops at sea , main engines being run in port.
We did a self discharge of cement klinker in Savannah using the Velle's with
grabs which took 3 weeks. Lots of nervous tension on the Panama Canal
transits hoping main engines and Kamewa would last until the other side.
Don't remember any pangs of regret when sho left Denholm's management.

ccurtis1
16th October 2007, 17:13
Baknes/Binsnes. Silver Line made 1 great change to these monstrocities, by dumping the Wretched Paxman Generators replacing them with Allens. We too tried to discharge fertiliser in Karachi using the 'cranes' and with the grabs attached and trying to hoist the 'crane' arm began descending. Starting the main engines was something of a performance too. Enough air for one attempt only and every engineer manually pushing the fuel pumps to maximum. The noise emitting from the reluctant engine was awe inspiring and the engineers on the pumps, reckoned that adrenaline was brown coloured. If the engine started, and that wasn't a foregone conclusion, then we 'bump' started the other engine. Bump starting necessitated clutching in the idle ngine to the runner and putting the fuel on. Once both engines were running, we started a lub oil replenishing pump which pumped lub oil from a D/B storage tank into both engines.One of the diesel bunker tanks was converted to carry lub oil. I think if memory serves correctly we used 6o gallons per watch. No boilers. All heating electrical. Death alley between the main engines was a terrifying place. Aye, the good old days?

Raz Jones
16th November 2007, 18:07
In the late 50's and early 60's I sailed as AB in Gleddoch, Arisaig, Clarkeden and Clarkavon, they were regular visitors to here in Port Talbot in those days along with Ormsary, Morar, Crinan, Craigallian, Wellpark and Naess Trader, the Management Company was called Scottish Ore Carriers, the two Clark ships were owned by Clarksons of London who also had a cargo ship managed by Denholm called Clarkspey, if my memory serves me right Clarkspey had at one time a long term charter to Port Line and was renamed Port Campbell for the duration of the charter.
Calm Seas to you All
Ray Jones

JimC
20th November 2007, 12:53
Hello Raz!

I too sailed on most of these . First as an apprentice (Ormsary, 1953) and later as 3rd. and 2nd. Mate. Hated cleaning out those bloody holds and getting all the muck out of the channels before closeing the hatches as well as using those weird 'tools' to turn the wheels and raise the hatch covers for closing. Happy days! All the best.

Jim C.

vickentallen
26th November 2007, 21:01
Nobody remember the Morven?? what a Sh## Heap sailed as leckie on B articles made more money in O/T than wages. Capt McDonald, Ch Eng'rs Semple,& Fleck who I think came to a sad end, anybody know the story?
Kenny Grier Jnr Eng think he became Eng Super, not one of the happiest years of my life after the RN.

Vic S.

randcmackenzie
27th November 2007, 23:39
Nobody remember the Morven?? what a Sh## Heap sailed as leckie on B articles made more money in O/T than wages. Capt McDonald, Ch Eng'rs Semple,& Fleck who I think came to a sad end, anybody know the story?
Kenny Grier Jnr Eng think he became Eng Super, not one of the happiest years of my life after the RN.

Vic S.

Yes, I remember her well, regular runner Chile/Japan, and Denholm's first ore/oiler, though the oil part was only used once I believe.

Built in Monfalcone for some American chemical company (Olin Matheson?) and intended to run from Guyana to the USA, but I don't think ever did.

Which MacDonald?

I sailed with 'Fingers' Fleck, and yes he died early, though I can't remember why.

Kenny Greer was indeed a Denholm Super, and I think went on to finish his time in Acomarit or Northern Marine.

vickentallen
28th November 2007, 20:56
Hi Mac,
this epistle could be a cathartic experience for me I still wake up sweating to the sounds of B&Ws grinding to a halt, literally grinding (saltwater contamination of the lub oil) bucketting white metal out the crankcase bottom.However enough of my problems. As far as I can remember
the old man was A.J. Macdonald, nice guy, but I was never on first name terms. Fingers Fleck got his Yamaha Organ as a "presento" from Mitsobishie Yard (excuse spelling) Yokohama for clearing Japans national dept single handed...Mate was JD Farley, 2/O Bert Frater(wound up as harbourmaster Stornoway) 3/0 Lenny Bell, other engineers were 2/eng RA Steven(Orcadian very kind to a poor lost ex RN Leckie) 3/eng Jimmy Gannon(Clydebank, previously on Morar & was still shaking) 3/eng R Hanlan 4/eng JR Clark Jnr/engs K Greer (cream of the crop) J Morrison (Ginge ex NB Loco) & W McDonald. I have to admit to an aid memoir of my last surviving copy of Denholm News.
As far as I can remember she was built by Cantiarra Navalie Triest who went bust before completion, lots of bits and pieces still lying about still to be fitted. ( owner Ollafson ??The trip started badly flying out to SA From Renfrew by the dreaded
Martin air charter (Dutch?) loosing an engine going over the Sahara forced landing in the Belgian Congo (where the "crowd" started throwing stale cheese rolls at the Belgian Special Forces) new engine flown up from SA and so we limped down to Jo'burg where for 3 or 4 days they tried to get the plane airbourne with us all in it! It got so bad that every time we were called to board Pathy News camera crews were on the airport balcony awaiting the imminant disaster. Eventually sense prevailed and the powers that be sent us down to PE to join the ship by Springbok airlines. Subsequently heard the Italian crew, that we releaved, mutinied about there return trip with Martins!! Enough stress for now Vic S..

vickentallen
28th November 2007, 21:01
Hi Mac flash of insperation old mans first name Angus..

muldonaich
28th November 2007, 22:43
Hi Mac,
this epistle could be a cathartic experience for me I still wake up sweating to the sounds of B&Ws grinding to a halt, literally grinding (saltwater contamination of the lub oil) bucketting white metal out the crankcase bottom.However enough of my problems. As far as I can remember
the old man was A.J. Macdonald, nice guy, but I was never on first name terms. Fingers Fleck got his Yamaha Organ as a "presento" from Mitsobishie Yard (excuse spelling) Yokohama for clearing Japans national dept single handed...Mate was JD Farley, 2/O Bert Frater(wound up as harbourmaster Stornoway) 3/0 Lenny Bell, other engineers were 2/eng RA Steven(Orcadian very kind to a poor lost ex RN Leckie) 3/eng Jimmy Gannon(Clydebank, previously on Morar & was still shaking) 3/eng R Hanlan 4/eng JR Clark Jnr/engs K Greer (cream of the crop) J Morrison (Ginge ex NB Loco) & W McDonald. I have to admit to an aid memoir of my last surviving copy of Denholm News.
As far as I can remember she was built by Cantiarra Navalie Triest who went bust before completion, lots of bits and pieces still lying about still to be fitted. ( owner Ollafson ??The trip started badly flying out to SA From Renfrew by the dreaded
Martin air charter (Dutch?) loosing an engine going over the Sahara forced landing in the Belgian Congo (where the "crowd" started throwing stale cheese rolls at the Belgian Special Forces) new engine flown up from SA and so we limped down to Jo'burg where for 3 or 4 days they tried to get the plane airbourne with us all in it! It got so bad that every time we were called to board Pathy News camera crews were on the airport balcony awaiting the imminant disaster. Eventually sense prevailed and the powers that be sent us down to PE to join the ship by Springbok airlines. Subsequently heard the Italian crew, that we releaved, mutinied about there return trip with Martins!! Enough stress for now Vic S..old man angus john macdonald from isle of mcgee eric baily from manchester told me the exact same story he was with you on that flight regards kev.

vickentallen
3rd December 2007, 21:14
cheers Kev thats the man very pleasant gent never heard of him again after the Morven. Vic..

vickentallen
3rd December 2007, 21:21
Eric Bailey was he a young seaman in 64 I kind of remember him. Most of the sailors were from Greenock and Barrachs the black gang were all Arabs from
Tiger Bay ?? Sarang was a Somallie of whom they were all sh*t scared.

Regards Vic...

muldonaich
3rd December 2007, 23:06
Eric Bailey was he a young seaman in 64 I kind of remember him. Most of the sailors were from Greenock and Barrachs the black gang were all Arabs from
Tiger Bay ?? Sarang was a Somallie of whom they were all sh*t scared.

Regards Vic...

yes he was young in those days just like you and i but not anymore and yes there was a few barrachs on there was the boson not from there gillies regards kev.

vickentallen
5th December 2007, 20:50
thought the bosun was Mcneil with his cousin as deputy vic.

muldonaich
6th December 2007, 19:43
thought the bosun was Mcneil with his cousin as deputy vic.could have been i know old sati gillies was bosun on her for a long time regards kev.

JimC
10th December 2007, 20:29
Broompark on trials 1959

JimC
10th December 2007, 20:32
Clarkeden on trials off S. Shield. in 1959

JimC
10th December 2007, 20:37
Naes Sovereign report in Llyods List. Sen alongside fitting-out berth at Mitsubishi, Japan.

JimC
10th December 2007, 20:44
Scotstoun on trials in the firth of Clyde in 1954. Young sister of the 'Norscot'. Parents were Charlie Connell and two bottles of champagne!

JimC
10th December 2007, 20:49
Excerpt fro a page of Lloyds Register in 1961. How many of these yards still build ships???

JimC
10th December 2007, 21:03
Can anyone name these guys?

allister mcnair
19th January 2008, 14:12
Not a Denholms guy and will never forgive you guys for unloading the Baknes and the Binsnes on to us i n Silver Line. What did we ever do do to deserve such an abhoration. Could'nt close the E/R sky-lights because of the fumes. The Flue discharged a thick black plume on a 'good' day, and the emmissions from the E/R skylights was almost as black. The derricks (cranes, and I use that term very loosely) could not lift a dancing girls skirt in Mombasa. The main engines!!!! There is reputedly a ward in Broadmoor filled with engineers from these ships. Come you Denholm guys, what did we Silver Liners do to deserve such hardships. They, the two abominations became the the Silvertweed and the Silverclyde. If they ran for 24 Hrs non stop, the engineers\ went on the p**s. It was a sober voyage.
Ccurtis1, A Silver Liner
why do u think we got rid after all all we got from silver line at xmas was a cheap set of cuff links and a battery op shaver allister lecky ex jj 1983

John Cassels
19th January 2008, 19:10
why do u think we got rid after all all we got from silver line at xmas was a cheap set of cuff links and a battery op shaver allister lecky ex jj 1983


What are you trying to say Allister ?.

Dick S
20th January 2008, 14:29
Sweet revenge for the Silver Bridge?

randcmackenzie
20th January 2008, 15:37
Can anyone name these guys?


The one on the left could be Stevie Gallagher.

The samson post vents in the background could make it Glenpark or Broompark.

Alan Rae
21st January 2008, 00:31
Spent six months on the hell ship Baknes.Lost one engine going between N&s island NZ.ended up having the crank ground in situ whilst on passage.Completely smashed one steering gear ram attempting to leave Brisbane and spent six weeks in drydock(fully loaded)Many other days of fun and enjoyment.Eventually escaped it's clutches in Rotterdam,dec 72.One of the reasons I left Denholms.Alan Rae

John Cassels
21st January 2008, 08:03
Spent six months on the hell ship Baknes.Lost one engine going between N&s island NZ.ended up having the crank ground in situ whilst on passage.Completely smashed one steering gear ram attempting to leave Brisbane and spent six weeks in drydock(fully loaded)Many other days of fun and enjoyment.Eventually escaped it's clutches in Rotterdam,dec 72.One of the reasons I left Denholms.Alan Rae


Alan , did you join the Baknes in Los Angeles around the early summer of
1972 ?. I left there , she was loading pet coke for NZ. Stayed an extra few
days in LA with family and remember hearing from the agent just before I
eventually left that one of the Velle derricks collapsed on to one of the
hatch covers . Ring any bells ?.

FrankGil
14th February 2008, 13:06
Hi There
Just joined and found this site,sailed on a few of the ships mentioned.
Sorry to here about Capt Bob Cotter passing on I sailed with him on the Troll Lake in 1974 a real gentleman,he used to like his cards especialy canaster.Also sailed on the Friendly Carrier,Nordic Louisiana,and Dalma among
others
Frank Gil

Tom McNeill
16th February 2008, 16:51
Fond memories of Bob Cotter as a shipmate and as a Master. A gentleman indeed.

John Cassels
16th February 2008, 19:07
Tom , tell us a little about yourself. I think I know who you are but
"retired " on your profile dose'nt say too much.

Tom McNeill
16th February 2008, 21:37
Hello John. After 25 years with the Denholm Group, J/E to Chief Superintendent Engineer left to a Consultancy and finished my career with 10 years as Technical Director with a local Scottish shipping group. Think that covers it!

John Cassels
17th February 2008, 09:03
Yes Tom , thought it was you. Nice to hear from you after all these years.
Apologies if I seemed nosey, just wanted to know if it was the TC that I
once knew.

Tom McNeill
17th February 2008, 11:36
Yes John its me - with a bit more time on my hands. All the best.

Tom

FrankGil
17th February 2008, 15:05
Hi There
I joined the Silver Bridge when Denholms took over the management,I think it was in Dunkirque.We left as the Cast Gull but going up the channel a ship kept calling us up as Silver Bridge,We asked how they knew it was the Silver Bridge,what had happened was we left in such a hurry the paint on the bows had'nt dried and had washed off.

FrankGil.

Dick S
17th February 2008, 18:19
Frank,
I was at Dunkerque when we took over Silver Bridge. I remember we stayed in a hotel while it was in dry dock with a Silver Line crew. I was 2nd Mate and had to leave in Sept Isle as my father was seriously ill in hospital. Didn't she almost have to stop just having dropped the pilot when we sailed from Dunkirk right in the middle of theEnglish Channel! Was it you who I went and had the worlds worst Chicken Chasseur with in Dunkerkue one night?

Dick

paddywhack1967
17th February 2008, 21:30
Fond memories of Bob Cotter as a shipmate and as a Master. A gentleman indeed.sailed with capt cotter on the cast husky,a true gentleman.Remember him paying for thirty cases of beer for the crew.This was just before we were told that the british crew were getting replaced with Polish crew.rgds Pat o' connell

muldonaich
18th February 2008, 00:13
sailed with capt cotter on the cast husky,a true gentleman.Remember him paying for thirty cases of beer for the crew.This was just before we were told that the british crew were getting replaced with Polish crew.rgds Pat o' connell
the world is a sadder place without him and cathy thats for sure kev.

Alan Rae
18th February 2008, 02:03
Sorry I missed your earlier post John.I joined the dreaded Baknes in Flushing on 14/6/72,transferred from the Axel Heiberg in Elsinore.I was third engineer.Don't remember an incident with the derrick falling on the hatch but anything was possible on that ship.The deck machinery was as unreliable as the main engines.Paid off in Rotterdam on 17/12/72 and also left Denholms.Alan

John Cassels
18th February 2008, 19:07
Sorry I missed your earlier post John.I joined the dreaded Baknes in Flushing on 14/6/72,transferred from the Axel Heiberg in Elsinore.I was third engineer.Don't remember an incident with the derrick falling on the hatch but anything was possible on that ship.The deck machinery was as unreliable as the main engines.Paid off in Rotterdam on 17/12/72 and also left Denholms.Alan

Alan , either my discharge book is wrong or else we are on the wrong tack.
I joined Baknes in Hamburg Feb '72. We loaded for Aussie then back loaded
wool for ( I think ) part discharge in Flushing . According discharge book
we changed articles in London june '72 while loading cement clinker for self
discharge in Charleston. According to the dates you give , we must have been there at the same time. Only engineer I can remember was Brian Docherty. Ring any bells ?.

John Cassels
18th February 2008, 19:13
Yes John its me - with a bit more time on my hands. All the best.

Tom

Tom ; now that you have joined , you must be a gold mine of information.
I left to come ashore for Cast in 1981.
Have you any idea what happened to some of the chengs I sailed with from
the GTV days . Ian Ross , Sandy Grey , John Benn , Mick McManus ,
Dick Stevenette. They were all pretty smart cookies although didn't get
along too well with Stevenette ( but that's another story ).
Any idea where they went ?.

Tom McNeill
18th February 2008, 21:33
Sorry John. I had virtually nothing to do with the GTV fleet. The engineers were a very select and discreet bunch who stayed largely with the GTVs though there were some escapees like Bob Greenow and Neil McMahon who I knew well. Some too like Alex Rennie were poached out of the main fleet I had sailed with pre GTV days. John Livingstone and Ryan O'Hare were good men who passed away far too young. Fewer and fewer of my generation still about! Like you there are some (one in particular)I prefer to forget!

Alan Rae
18th February 2008, 22:08
Yes John the articles were changed in London on 24/6/72 whilst loading cement and I was on board at that time.The Baknes carried TWO third engineers.Its a long time ago but I think the other third was a Londoner.Chief engineer,who left in Northfleet was a pompous pratt called (I think)Appleton.I was banned from the saloon,by Appleton,because I didn't have any whites with me so was exiled to the dirty mess.You may remember one movie evening(Carry on at your Convenience was the movie)Appleton left the room,with his wife,after about 15 minutes because he thought the movie was "disgusting"!!!The second was promoted to chief-a scotchman I think-he was a great guy.Think the fourth was a guy called Jim.alan

muldonaich
18th February 2008, 23:14
Sorry John. I had virtually nothing to do with the GTV fleet. The engineers were a very select and discreet bunch who stayed largely with the GTVs though there were some escapees like Bob Greenow and Neil McMahon who I knew well. Some too like Alex Rennie were poached out of the main fleet I had sailed with pre GTV days. John Livingstone and Ryan O'Hare were good men who passed away far too young. Fewer and fewer of my generation still about! Like you there are some (one in particular)I prefer to forget!another one that passed away to young was tommy laird great guy kev.

Tom S
19th February 2008, 08:28
Sorry John. I had virtually nothing to do with the GTV fleet. The engineers were a very select and discreet bunch who stayed largely with the GTVs though there were some escapees like Bob Greenow and Neil McMahon who I knew well. Some too like Alex Rennie were poached out of the main fleet I had sailed with pre GTV days. John Livingstone and Ryan O'Hare were good men who passed away far too young. Fewer and fewer of my generation still about! Like you there are some (one in particular)I prefer to forget!

Tom
Whatever happened to Derek Boardman after he came back from New York as Eng Supt
Regards
TomS

John Cassels
19th February 2008, 08:37
Sorry John. I had virtually nothing to do with the GTV fleet. The engineers were a very select and discreet bunch who stayed largely with the GTVs though there were some escapees like Bob Greenow and Neil McMahon who I knew well. Some too like Alex Rennie were poached out of the main fleet I had sailed with pre GTV days. John Livingstone and Ryan O'Hare were good men who passed away far too young. Fewer and fewer of my generation still about! Like you there are some (one in particular)I prefer to forget!


Thanks Tom. Now that I see the name again , it was Neil McMahon I meant
not McManus. Must have been thinking of Brian McManus.
Know where Neil is now ?.

John Cassels
19th February 2008, 08:52
Yes John the articles were changed in London on 24/6/72 whilst loading cement and I was on board at that time.The Baknes carried TWO third engineers.Its a long time ago but I think the other third was a Londoner.Chief engineer,who left in Northfleet was a pompous pratt called (I think)Appleton.I was banned from the saloon,by Appleton,because I didn't have any whites with me so was exiled to the dirty mess.You may remember one movie evening(Carry on at your Convenience was the movie)Appleton left the room,with his wife,after about 15 minutes because he thought the movie was "disgusting"!!!The second was promoted to chief-a scotchman I think-he was a great guy.Think the fourth was a guy called Jim.alan


So we were on board at the same time. Remember the self discharge in
Charleston ?. That was really something else .
Now that you mention it , yes , I do remember Appleton ( if that was his
name). If I remember his wife was also of the same demeanour - they were
made for each other.
On the brighter side , the Master was my old friend ( still is ) and fellow
Gourockian "Wee Jock " McVicar.
CPO was a guy called Campbell ( maybe Kevin will know).
After Charleston , we ballasted through the pandemonium canal for Long
Beach to load petcoke for NZ. I left in Long Beach along with Wee Jock and
a few others. Think Maxwell joined as Master.
Remember the gentleman we had from West Africa ,on board as extra
3rd.mate for training purposes ?. Could write a book about the things
that happened with him.

muldonaich
19th February 2008, 12:26
Thanks Tom. Now that I see the name again , it was Neil McMahon I meant
not McManus. Must have been thinking of Brian McManus.
Know where Neil is now ?.met him in barra a few years ago john he was working as eng super for a russian tanker company based in glasgow i think they had something to do with the empress tanker at milford haven??? when she went aground or mabye im getting mixed up old age rgds kev.

Alan Rae
19th February 2008, 12:30
Remember the stay in Long Beach very well.Went ashor with the second ,leaving instructions with the night junior to LOWER the bilge level(Juniors name was Donnie I think,should have been Dumbo)Rolled back in the early hours to be met by a distraught junior.He'd put the bilge pump on and forgotten about it!Nothing we could do except wait for the inevitable visit from the coastguard.We supplied them with a doctored sample of the bilges and the ship astern was fined.Remember the dark skinned gentleman(he was rumoured to have his Mates ticket,I happened to be on the bridge after leaving Newcastle,NSW and the skipper told him to change to auto pilot.After doing this he asked the Skipper if he should turn off the steering gear!He was kicked off when we got back to Europe.Happy days,Alan

muldonaich
19th February 2008, 12:31
So we were on board at the same time. Remember the self discharge in
Charleston ?. That was really something else .
Now that you mention it , yes , I do remember Appleton ( if that was his
name). If I remember his wife was also of the same demeanour - they were
made for each other.
On the brighter side , the Master was my old friend ( still is ) and fellow
Gourockian "Wee Jock " McVicar.
CPO was a guy called Campbell ( maybe Kevin will know).
After Charleston , we ballasted through the pandemonium canal for Long
Beach to load petcoke for NZ. I left in Long Beach along with Wee Jock and
a few others. Think Maxwell joined as Master.
Remember the gentleman we had from West Africa ,on board as extra
3rd.mate for training purposes ?. Could write a book about the things
that happened with him.there were a few cmpbells bosun iwas on one of the seatrain ships when bakeness was discharging cement in charleston went on board barry farmery was on there gp1 long hair crazy guy i think they put the agents car into the hopper it was the crew doing the discharging were you on her then john?? rgds kev.

FrankGil
19th February 2008, 13:17
Dick

I remember going for a meal in Dunkerque,if I remember right the owner was a woman and her party trick was to pour a liqueur in a small glass without a measure and she rolled it on the table,the liqueur came right to the rim but not a drop spilled.I think the captain at that time was George Maguire but I ca'nt remember the mate or the engineers.

Frank

John Cassels
19th February 2008, 13:49
there were a few cmpbells bosun iwas on one of the seatrain ships when bakeness was discharging cement in charleston went on board barry farmery was on there gp1 long hair crazy guy i think they put the agents car into the hopper it was the crew doing the discharging were you on her then john?? rgds kev.


Yes Kevin , I sure was there . Agents car was only one of many mishaps.
It was indeed a crew discharge. Sailed with the same CPO about 8 years
later on Cast Puffin. Would it have been Donald Campbell , reddish fair hair ?.

Gulpers
19th February 2008, 14:13
Remember the gentleman we had from West Africa ,on board as extra
3rd.mate for training purposes ?. Could write a book about the things that happened with him.

Once sailed with a similar 3/O on Troll River. Jim Nichol was Old Man and we were bound from the Mediterranean to Antwerp.

On the starboard side of the steering console there was a lever marked 1 and 2 to enable the steering circuits to be changed over and when the 3/O asked what it was for, we explained that, just like a car, we used 1st gear heading north (uphill) and 2nd when going west to east.

Well, guess who was on watch when we altered round Ushant to enter the Channel? Yep, our trainee 3/O.

You should have seen the look on Big Jim's face as the 3/O asked him for permission to change into 2nd gear! The Old Man looked somewhat perplexed and asked the 3/O what the duck he was talking about. The rest of us were having real difficulty keeping our faces straight as the 3/O looked at the Old Man as though he was stupid and then went on to explain that we had to change up to 2nd gear because we had stopped heading uphill. (==D)

muldonaich
19th February 2008, 21:38
Yes Kevin , I sure was there . Agents car was only one of many mishaps.
It was indeed a crew discharge. Sailed with the same CPO about 8 years
later on Cast Puffin. Would it have been Donald Campbell , reddish fair hair ?.might have been him hes from lewis there was bert campbell and bobby campbell but i think it was donald listing to the boys in the mess that night she was a ship and a half made me glad i was on seatrain lines rgds kev.

Tom McNeill
19th February 2008, 22:08
Tom
Whatever happened to Derek Boardman after he came back from New York as Eng Supt
Regards
TomS

Pretty sure he went to the Salvage Association as surveyor. A few Denholm men went there over the years. Jack Lilley ended up as Chief Surveyor. Alex Galloway a previous Chief Surveyor was also a Denholm's Super.

FIFEFLYER
24th February 2008, 16:30
Hi Alan Iam the 4th Eng called Jim, I joined the BAKNES in Long Beach on the05-08-1972, the C/E was Appleton , 2nd Eng Jimmy McGeever , 3rd Engs Ged Reed & yourself , Elect Bill Brown. Old man Maxwell, 2nd Mate Roger Haggard, 3rd Mate Midnight. cargo was petroeum coke to Bluff N.Z. stopped every day to lift a head & change exhaust v/vs, had a crankcase explosion between Tasmania & Newcastle, the other 2nd Eng was called Albert, I think he met his Victoria in OZ. you left in Rotterdam with me taking over as 3rd Eng, I eventually left in Charleston on 29-01-1973 after another epic voyage & discharge. regards Jim Hughes

Alan Rae
25th February 2008, 00:35
Hi Alan Iam the 4th Eng called Jim, I joined the BAKNES in Long Beach on the05-08-1972, the C/E was Appleton , 2nd Eng Jimmy McGeever , 3rd Engs Ged Reed & yourself , Elect Bill Brown. Old man Maxwell, 2nd Mate Roger Haggard, 3rd Mate Midnight. cargo was petroeum coke to Bluff N.Z. stopped every day to lift a head & change exhaust v/vs, had a crankcase explosion between Tasmania & Newcastle, the other 2nd Eng was called Albert, I think he met his Victoria in OZ. you left in Rotterdam with me taking over as 3rd Eng, I eventually left in Charleston on 29-01-1973 after another epic voyage & discharge. regards Jim Hughes

Hi Jim,What a blast from the past!Still remember most of the guys on the Baknes-it was a very memorable experience.I'm terrible with names,always have been,and a lot of them are lost in the mists of time.What are you doing now?After the Baknes I went FOC with a large increase in pay,ended up as chief on supply boats(Tidewater),coasters and a deep sea salvage tug.Got blackballed by Tidewater in 93 and went working ashore,not the same at all.Now retired and living in sunny Gloucester with an African Grey called Poll,did call him Baldrick but he refused to cooperate.Totally pissed off with retirement and bored out of my skull!Keep in touch,Alan(K)

John Cassels
25th February 2008, 07:53
Hi Alan Iam the 4th Eng called Jim, I joined the BAKNES in Long Beach on the05-08-1972, the C/E was Appleton , 2nd Eng Jimmy McGeever , 3rd Engs Ged Reed & yourself , Elect Bill Brown. Old man Maxwell, 2nd Mate Roger Haggard, 3rd Mate Midnight. cargo was petroeum coke to Bluff N.Z. stopped every day to lift a head & change exhaust v/vs, had a crankcase explosion between Tasmania & Newcastle, the other 2nd Eng was called Albert, I think he met his Victoria in OZ. you left in Rotterdam with me taking over as 3rd Eng, I eventually left in Charleston on 29-01-1973 after another epic voyage & discharge. regards Jim Hughes

You joined when I left in Long Beach. So , it was Roger Haggard who
relieved me , would never have remembered.

von zippa
8th August 2011, 13:32
hi i sailed for a few years with denholms(3rd engineer)some of the ships i sailed on that you haven`t listed were
naess sovereign, re named burmah jet
naess champion, renamed burmah zircon
siam
bangkok these were all tankers

michaelF
8th August 2011, 13:54
hi i sailed for a few years with denholms(3rd engineer)some of the ships i sailed on that you haven`t listed were
naess sovereign, re named burmah jet
naess champion, renamed burmah zircon
siam
bangkok these were all tankers


Hi Von Zipper i sailed on the Siam as 2/o 74/75 over christmas , but thats a story for another time.

mike

Kenny MacRitchie
5th November 2011, 11:37
Hi all you Diamond D men i myself spent 2 happy years there sailing on Ormsary, Naess Trader, Hopepark, Dunkyle & Clarkeden from Jan.69 to Jan.72
There was one exeption the Hopepark where i served over 6 months spending 5 of those in the engine room as she was GP also the Bosun from Glasgow was a nasty piece of work i wont mention his name

muldonaich
5th November 2011, 13:08
she was the most unhappy ship i ever sailed on kev.

John Cassels
6th November 2011, 18:57
Hi all you Diamond D men i myself spent 2 happy years there sailing on Ormsary, Naess Trader, Hopepark, Dunkyle & Clarkeden from Jan.69 to Jan.72
There was one exeption the Hopepark where i served over 6 months spending 5 of those in the engine room as she was GP also the Bosun from Glasgow was a nasty piece of work i wont mention his name

OK . tell us !.

wavedweller
20th November 2011, 15:52
Hi Raz Jones,
Me and my mate joined the Clarkeden around New year 1960 I believe in the Manchester Ship Canal. Destination--bxxxxx Narvik. The coldest, roughest orrible trip in my life. Enjoyed the Aurora lights though.
I done 3 trips on her. U.K. to Narvik, Narvik to Port Talbot, Wales to Almeria, spain to Barrow ,and Barrow to Poti in Russia, and paid off in Birkenhead. Went back to Esso for a WARM!!!
Regards
Colin

Dan.n
20th November 2011, 18:31
Hi Colin
I was on deck on the Clarkeden Dec 60 to March 61 and went to these ports you mention.
Dan

L888doc
31st March 2014, 12:21
Hi vickentallen
I had the misfortune to fly martins 1962 to join Clarkforth in St. John's New Brunswick nightmare!!what your post did was remind of my best mate who was chef wullie slattery. He toldme this story so many times. He died of prostrate cancer Boxing Day 2003age 61. Thanks for the memory l888doc.

Kenny MacRitchie
31st March 2014, 13:26
Hi vickentallen
I had the misfortune to fly martins 1962 to join Clarkforth in St. John's New Brunswick nightmare!!what your post did was remind of my best mate who was chef wullie slattery. He toldme this story so many times. He died of prostrate cancer Boxing Day 2003age 61. Thanks for the memory l888doc.
Glad to be of service and to remind you of your best mate