Help To Find Ships Of Ussb

DAVIDJM
5th October 2005, 11:26
Hello folk

I have a number of prints of ships that were belonging to the united states shipping board USSB but i cant find a suitable site on line to get the info on them.

Can anyone point me in a right direction

many thanks

David

R58484956
5th October 2005, 11:56
The USSB was effectively abolished on 02/03/1934 by executive order 6166 dated 10/06/1933 and this board was superceded by 6 other boards (various titles) and today is Maritime Administration of D of T. Try A web search.

Bruce Carson
5th October 2005, 13:32
Hello David:
I've noticed that there doesn't appear to be a good overall overview of USSB ships on the web. Perhaps the following will give you a start.
There are many sites devoted to particular phases of the operations, some of which are:
The Munson Line 535s with some nice interior views at
http://www.colorado.gov/dpa/doit/archives/wwcod/pships.htm
The Hog Islanders
http://smmlonline.com/articles/hogislanders/hogislanders.html
http://www.armed-guard.com/ag18.html
Dollar (later APL) operated a large number of 502 & 535s and a short history of these can be found at
http://www.apl.com/history/timeline/stat5.htm
Information on the ex Germans, 'Leviathan', 'George Washington', 'Princess Matoika', etc., can usually be found on google individually by name.

Mark H. Goldberg has written "The Hog Islanders", "The Shipping Board's Agency Ships" and "The Stately President Liners (part 1-The 502s--650 or so pages. Part 2 on the 535s is to follow.)" for the American Merchant Marine Museum.

Bruce C.

Bruce Carson
5th October 2005, 15:51
Hi:
One piece of trivia which can be verified on the APL site.
The ships of the 502 and 535 classes were named in accordance with their length.
For some strange reason, which would make sense only to a government beaurocrat, the 502s were named for their length between perpendiculars, but the 535s for their length overall.
The two classes were did not have a 33' difference in length as most thought, but a difference of only 12'-16', depending on whether they were measured overall or between perpendiculars.
Also, many of the various lines that operated these ships used displacement tonnage, rather than gross tonnage, in their advertising, giving the impression that these liners were much larger than they really were.

Bruce C.

DAVIDJM
6th October 2005, 10:26
Many thanks to you all for the info, it will give me a couple of angles to go on.
It gets a bit frustrating at times when you have a picture of a ship that "disapears" at some stage and it takes time to find a clue of what happen to them.

Thanks to this site i have already solved a couple of problems

david

Bruce Carson
6th October 2005, 12:53
http://docsouth.unc.edu/wwi/41892/100.html
I thought I'd add the poster--the fiercest damned eagle I've ever seen.
I've always been interested in these ships and I do have Mark Goldbergs's books--if there is information on a particular ship or incident, there's a slight chance I may be able to help.

Bruce C.