ISS pontypridd/ ss pontypridd

viking
3rd November 2005, 21:00
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IM LOOKING FOR ANY INFO OR PHOTO'S OF THE ISS PONTYPRIDD BUILT 1883 AND SUNK IN WW1 BY A U BOAT AND SS PONTYPRIDD BUILT 1924 AND ALSO SUNK BY A U BOAT IN 1942 BOTH THESE SHIPS BELONGED TO THE MOREL BROTHERS OF CARDIFF

Billy1963
12th January 2006, 18:35
Cargo Pontypridd, 1,556grt, (R.E. Morel & Co.) had been sailing from the Tyne to London with a cargo of coal. On the 12th March 1917, off Aldeburgh she hit a mine and sank, 3 lives lost.

Commemorated Tower Hill Memorial WWI section

GEAR, Able Seaman, ROBERT, S.S. "Pontypridd" (Cardiff). Mercantile Marine. Killed, as a result of an attack by an enemy submarine, or killed by mine, 12th March 1917. Age 26. Son of Magnus and Charlotte Gear, of Brough, Nesting, Lerwick, Shetland.

LAMBO, Fireman, JOHN, S.S. "Pontypridd" (Cardiff). Mercantile Marine. Killed, as a result of an attack by an enemy submarine, or killed by mine, 12th March 1917. Age 30. Born in Greece.

ROUSSOS, Fireman, DEMETRIOS, S.S. "Pontypridd" (Cardiff). Mercantile Marine. Killed, as a result of an attack by an enemy submarine, or killed by mine 12th March 1917. Age 28. Born in Greece.

Cargo ship Pontypridd, 4,458grt, (Morel Bros, Pontypridd SS Co.) had sailed from Immingham to Loch Ewe in ballast for Father Point & Sydney, Cape Breton and joined up with the the Cape Cod bound 38 ship Convoy ON-100 which left Liverpool on the 2nd June 1942. Some time during the crossing the ship became detached from the main Convoy and was classed as a straggler. On the 11th June she was intercepted by U-569 North East of Newfoundland who fired a torpedo into the ships bow, followed by a second hitting her amidships and buckling her plates. Severely disabled and straggling further behind she was hit by a coupe de grace from U-94 and sank in position 49' 50 N 41' 37W. The Captain, Herbert V. B. Morden was taken prisoner onboard U569 and eventually ended up in the Merchant Navy PoW camp Milag Nord (Milag PoW No. 706) where he spent the remainder of the war until the camp was liberated on the 28th April 1945. 42 crew were rescued by Canadian corvette RCN Chambly and landed in St John's. 2 crew were lost.

Commemorated Tower Hill Memorial Panel 83.

AHMED SHIEF, Fireman and Trimmer, S.S. Pontypridd (London). Merchant Navy. 11th June 1942. Age 44.

NATAL MANOEL NASEIMENTO, Fireman and Trimmer, S.S. Pontypridd (London). Merchant Navy. 11th June 1942. Age 24.

National Maritime Museum has two photos of the 1924 built Pontypridd. Below are the negative numbers to quote and contact address.

PONTYPRIDD (Br) 50.1 1924 General cargo Pontypridd Steamship Co Ltd (Morel Ltd).
P12411 (3) B Under way. A copy negative.
P12412 (3) B Nov. 1936 At quayside.

Historic Photographs Section,
National Maritime Museum,
Greenwich,
London,
SE10 9NF
Tel: +44 (0) 20 8312 8600
Fax: +44 (0) 20 8317 0263
E-mail: plansandphotos@nmm.ac.uk

viking
17th January 2006, 22:37
thanks for the info i have been researching iss and ss ponty for a while i live in the town of pontypridd (Applause) (Applause)

Tom Wales
26th August 2006, 16:35
ss Pontypridd (1883) 1556 gross 989 net , ship no 87480 , registered Cardiff, ship's register in Glamorgan Records Office. 260ft x 36.2 x 18.5 ,built Blyth Shipbuilding Company, 99HP . Crew agreement for 1917 in BT 99 / 3290 at Kew National Archive . covers voyage where sunk by mine or torpedo at Aldeburgh , 3 crew lost .Sold by Morel subsequently owned by Leadenhall Steamship Company and Wolviston Steamship Company. Final owner was South Metropolitan Gas Company who established a small fleet to carry coal from Northeast ports to Thames gasworks during WW1.
I am also interested in photographs but have yet to find one.

Tom Wales
16th September 2006, 21:16
Follow this link for reference to 1924 Pontypriddhttp://www.ship-photos.dynamic-site.net/index.php

ruud
17th September 2006, 00:07
Ahoy,
Found this piccie in one of my files "unknown" so don't know/remember who own/send it.
The Pontypridd 1924

vic pitcher
17th September 2006, 16:54
Ahoy,
Found this piccie in one of my files "unknown" so don't know/remember who own/send it.
The Pontypridd 1924

"Pontypridd" 1924 (Northumberland Shipbuilding Company) 4458grt
Pontypridd Steamship company Ltd (Morel Ltd, Cardiff) War loss 11-06-42

viking
15th October 2006, 21:06
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Tom Wales
26th October 2006, 18:54
There is a book about Morel (Pontypridd owners) written by J Gibbs , a family member , and published by the National Museum of Wales. A copy can be found in the search room at the Glamorgan Record Office in Cardiff. The book contains photographs of both ships , 1883 and 1924 , as well as some information about each vessel. The book in total is a very interesting account of the history of this shipping family and their shipping and mining interests and the times in which these ships operated. The Shipwreck Index of the British Isles gives some detail about the sinking of the 1883 ship (possibly also the 1924 ship) it is in regional volumes and I think I saw a set in the reference department of the Cardiff Central Library.

viking
26th December 2006, 00:33
recently I have discovered the hansen collection at the national museum of wales which has 4560 photos of ships in and around cardiff including a few of iss and ss pontypridd

Tom Wales
28th December 2006, 17:56
Thanks for the info Viking. I will get down there and see if they have anything on ss Adamton as well.
Tom

viking
28th December 2006, 18:50
tom you can contact them via the web site fro nat museum of wales

johnnybach
11th July 2012, 20:42
Did you find any pictures of the Pontypridd? That was my Dad's first ship and I've got a couple of photos if you are still interested.

Tom Wales
1st September 2012, 21:43
Hello Johnnybach,
I am still interested in the Pontypridd (1883 ) which was mined and sunk off Aldeburgh in 1917. If that was your Dad's first ship then I have more info. that you might be interested in.
Tom

johnnybach
4th September 2012, 11:02
Sorry Tom, my father was on a later Pontypridd, sunk in 1942.

gregowen
4th September 2013, 19:53
Hi jonnybach,
I am doing some work for my brother who has difficulty with computers.
Our father was Master of the Pontypridd before the fateful voyage in 1942. My mother told me that he would not risk the safety of his crew by taking the vessel out again and he was proved correct. Are your pictures of the vessel or of the crew? Regards gregowen

viking
4th January 2014, 20:44
Any new info?