SS Alsatian / RMS Empress of France

mybigarse
19th August 2010, 23:28
Hi to you all,
I'm researching my family history and have stumbled upon my Great Grandfather who, during WW1 was decorated for serving on SS Alsatian, I have no idea what he was decorated for and am struggling to find out, any information would be gratefully received.

many thanks

hawkey01
21st August 2010, 16:52
MBA,

The ships particulars are as follows:

Built in 1914 by Beardmore Dalmuir - Yard No509.
Passenger - British flag.
18485 tons.
Length 174.2m x Beam 22.1m
4 screw turbine - speed 18 knots.
Name changed to Empress of France in 1919.
Broken up in Dalmuir 24.11.1934.

During WW1 she was requisitioned and became and Armed Merchant Cruiser. As HMS Alsatian she was part of the 10th Cruiser Squadron patrolling the Shetland Islands.

No more info.

Hawkey01

mybigarse
21st August 2010, 19:15
Thankyou Hawkeye01, I think this could be a long investigation!

Rob

melliget
24th August 2010, 14:38
YBA.

Try searching the London Gazette for the awarding of the decoration. I find Advanced Search is best, although it can still be difficult to locate items. Try different combinations, i.e. a surname and a date range, or just his full name (first middle surname) in "exact phrase" field. If he was in the services, try just his service number, if he had one.

http://www.london-gazette.co.uk/search

Perhaps also try a search of the National Archives' DocumentsOnline:

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/power-search.asp?searchType=powersearch

Good luck.

Martin

Kattevans
29th August 2012, 16:39
Hello, I am struggling to find recrods of my Great Granddad who I thought worked at Liverpool docks, he was not on the 1911 census so we thought he may have gone to sea. However, I have recently found a record of him as a steward on the Empress of France in a border crossing record from Canada to the US. The ship left Liverpool in January 1920. MY query is did people work on the same ships or move around within shipping companies? Does anyone know where I can find any more information about George Henry Evans (bn 23rd May 1880). If he travelled to Canada would he have needed a passport (possibly photos??) Any information would be gratefully received.

Hugh MacLean
29th August 2012, 17:13
Hello and welcome,

Pay site FMP - looks like there may be records for him if the correct man: Suggest Discharge number 707909 http://www.findmypast.co.uk/search/merchant-navy-seamen/results?event=S&locale=en&recordCount=-1&otherDataSet=2%3A41&forenames=george+henry&includeForenamesVariants=true&_includeForenamesVariants=on&surname=evans&_includeSurnameVariants=on&county=&place=&birthYear=1880&birthYearTolerance=5&keyWord=

also a WW1 medal file at Kew in piece BT 351/1/60 downloadable for 3.36 - http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/SearchUI/Details?uri=D8009678

Regards
Hugh

Kattevans
7th September 2012, 12:38
Thank you Hugh, I will give it a go.

Regards, Kate

A.D.FROST
7th September 2012, 13:19
Hi to you all,
I'm researching my family history and have stumbled upon my Great Grandfather who, during WW1 was decorated for serving on SS Alsatian, I have no idea what he was decorated for and am struggling to find out, any information would be gratefully received.

many thanks

Took part(8.9.1914) in the rescued of the crew from OCEANIC(White Star Line) which went aground on Foula Island Shetland and wrecked.(Applause)

Kattevans
7th September 2012, 13:28
Hi Hugh,

Thank you so much for spending the time and effort in locating my Great Grandfathers (George Henry Evans) records. I had a look at the archives file first and could just see part of his address so knew it was him. There was even a photograph on one of the records so I am absolutely thrilled.

Thank you,

Kind Regards,
Kate