Crimean War RN ships

numbat47
1st September 2010, 12:02
I am interested in the following ships in the years 1854-1870:- HMS Royal William, HMS St. George, HMS Triton, HMS Scout, HMS Spiteful.

Roger Griffiths
1st September 2010, 18:04
I am interested in the following ships in the years 1854-1870:- HMS Royal William, HMS St. George, HMS Triton, HMS Scout, HMS Spiteful.

Could you be more specific on the kind of information you are looking for? Are you looking for Movements, Muster Roles or general information on the named vessels.

Roger

numbat47
2nd September 2010, 09:04
My great great grandfather was commander of the Spiteful, Scout and triton, and a Lieutenant on the Royal William and St. George. I have his commissions for all of these except the Triton, and I have 4 letters written by him from the Triton to his wife -- between 9 Feb 1854 (in Balaklava Harbour, describing a land attack by the Russians on the French and Sardinians, and then the next morning the fact that the Russians had retreated from Sebastopol, and his description of his walk through town, the first englishman to enter it) and 12 February 1856, describing his sailing/steaming between Balaklava, Otchakov (the River Bug) Malta, Corfu and Palermo.
I am interested in all info relating to the ships, tours of duty, muster rolls, etc., so that I can get a good picture of his involvement. He retired to become a customs officer on Jersey (Channel Islands). I have transcribed those letters, and used his picture on my profile.

numbat 47

stein
2nd September 2010, 12:42
A nice picture here anyway, with a few unidentified ships: http://www.shipsnostalgia.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/59239/title/balaclava/cat/505 Anothe view of the St. Hilda: http://www.shipsnostalgia.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/59236/title/sthilda/cat/524

stein
2nd September 2010, 13:25
Some more pictures from Balaklava, presumably all well known to numbat47, but it might inspire somebody to dig for relevant information.
Spiteful of 1842: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~pbtyc/18-1900/S/04366.html
http://www.pdavis.nl/ShowShip.php?id=2107
Scout of 1856 (No Fletcher mentioned, right ship? The Scout of 1832 has no Fletcher mentioned either): http://www.pdavis.nl/ShowShip.php?id=129
Triton of 1846: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~pbtyc/18-1900/T/04890.html
http://www.pdavis.nl/ShowShip.php?id=2207
St. George of 1840: http://www.pdavis.nl/ShowShip.php?id=40
Royal William of 1833: http://www.pdavis.nl/ShowShip.php?id=38

numbat47
2nd September 2010, 14:21
Thank you all contributors to the information so far. Th assumption that I have already accessed some information is not accurate. I have only recently started to try and research Captain Archibald Douglas William Fletcher RN and his ships, since discovering his commissions and letters in my father's estate. I am very grateful for the assistance of your expertise and interest in this type of research.

Roger Griffiths
3rd September 2010, 18:30
Go to
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/search.asp?j=1

WORD OR PHRASE Type the name of the vessel

YEAR RANGE Self explainitory

DEPARTMENT CODE OR SERIES Type ADM

There are plenty of Logbooks, Muster Role and other records for most of the vessels you are interested in.
Your big problem is viewing these records. Best bet is to go to Kew but its a long way from Oz.
You could appoint a researcher but they don't come cheap.
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/records/paid_research.htm


Roger

chadburn
3rd September 2010, 23:17
Interesting place Balaklava, it has a massive underground/undermountain Submarine Base/Weapons Store built to hide Russian submarines during the Cold War. It is now a tourist attraction as the Canal leading to it is too small for the modern Subs. Now that agreement has been reached with the Russians regarding their Fleet staying the speculation is rife as to whether they may want it back as a storage facility.

melliget
4th September 2010, 03:40
Attached is a selection of mentions from The Times. Do you know the date or year he died?

regards,

Martin

numbat47
5th September 2010, 10:58
Thank you again for your help. Archibald DW Fletcher died in March 1882. I have transcribed 4 letters that he wrote (including one from Balaklava Harbour on 9 Sept 1854, describing his walk into the South Side of Sebastopol immediately after it had fallen) to his wife Jane Mary from the Crimea. She was the daughter of General Sir Edward Nicolls, K.C.B., Royal Marines. I am planning to offer them to the Crimean War Research Society, would they also be suitable for this site? They do mention travel times between Malta and Corfu and Palermo by the Triton.

stein
5th September 2010, 11:21
I'd read them, and so would, I guess, a number of others.

numbat47
5th September 2010, 13:43
ADWF writing home

stein
5th September 2010, 14:21
A different kind of war? "Col. Hunderek’s wife was sitting watching the battle when her husband’s dead body was brought up."

I saw this movie, I think it was called "The Charge of the Light Brigade," where this tragic loss were - as far as I remember it - explained by the officer in command needing a good enjoyable view of the battle, which necessitated sending the cavalery straight against the enemy's cannons. (Might not have been that factual of course.)

Some illustration of the conditions in the Crimea here:http://www.loc.gov/pictures/search/?st=grid&co=ftncnw

Kirkby
9th September 2012, 13:30
Good afternoon! You mention the ship St Hilda. My great great Grandfather Richard Kirby was captain of this hospital/transport and I have letters written home to his wife in North Shields.

He went on to captain the Red Jacket clipper in 1859. Strangely no actual photos seem to exist for this ship although lots of Curier and Ives prints!

Banana Doctor
19th July 2013, 07:02
Good afternoon! You mention the ship St Hilda. My great great Grandfather Richard Kirby was captain of this hospital/transport and I have letters written home to his wife in North Shields.

He went on to captain the Red Jacket clipper in 1859. Strangely no actual photos seem to exist for this ship although lots of Curier and Ives prints!
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To Kirby

I would be very interested in knowing if there is anything in your possession from your great great grandfather Richard Kirby that relates to the visit by 'St Hilda' to Balaklava in March-April 1855. As you know, his ship was photographed by Roger Fenton in March 1855and I am anxious to know when she left this port during that time period. I would appreciate any information that you may have.

Banana Doctor