30th October 2010, 17:38
Hello, I'm new to this site. My purpose for joining today is to see if any members can give me some information on a ship named the Whitby Abbey.
I believe she was used as a troopship or hospital ship during the First World War. I also believe she was present in or around Gallipoli but I'm unable to prove this at present.
I have trawled the internet without any luck. I thought I'd go straight to her on one of the HMAT or HMNZT sites but it was not to be. I assume she was English but only because of her name.
If anyone can help I'd be eternally grateful, I don't know where else to go!
Thanks for reading my appeal,
30th October 2010, 18:51
The official No for the “Whitby Abbey” built 1908 was 128091
The crew agreements and ships logs are scattered some in the TNA Kew for the year 1924, BT 99/3744.
for the years 1911, 1914, 1921 BT 99/2825, BT 99/3058, BT 99/3607
others in the MUN Canada 1908 – 1934 with exceptions
see also http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/searchresults.asp?fldLettercodeRef=ADM&fldClassRef=&fldSearchNumber=112059&fldInvert=0&SearchInit=6
30th October 2010, 20:10
Thank you so much for your reply.
The Canadian Archives don't hold any information for 1914 - 1918 but Kew is a great place to start.
Do you know if this is the Whitby Abbey I've asked about? The photo doesn't look old enough but I'm no photographer!
Many thanks to: www.photoship.co.uk for the photograph.
30th October 2010, 22:04
The photograph is the later "Whitby Abbey" Official No 185181 built, 1954
30th October 2010, 23:20
Thank you Ray.
Now I have no information and no photograph - back to square one!
(I have contacted the National Archives for a quote on the documents you advised me about).
31st October 2010, 09:01
Not sure where you are geographically placed , I would suggest that it might be more economic to visit the TNA , obtain a readers card and view the files / documents , you are allowed to photograph free the log / crew lists or photocopy at a price, once you have the readers ticket you can order the files you require in advance to save time once there
31st October 2010, 13:22
Thanks Ray but I'm in Liverpool. Not sure how much documents cost but I'm hoping they're cheaper than a day off work, a return train ticket to London, etc!
How I miss living in London!!!
Thanks again for your help,
31st October 2010, 21:35
have a look in photoship.com sam2182sw
31st October 2010, 23:09
Hello Sandra, could this be the vessel you're looking for?
There is a Whitby Castle recorded at Gallipoli as a 'hired screw' Minesweeper, and is referred to in this site:
as being a Brigade HQ. (See the paragraph below the second map.)
The same vessel is recorded as having been in collision on 18 August 1915 with a fleet messenger and store carrier, PS Barry here:
You need to scroll about three-quarters of the way down the page. I cannot confirm if the vessel in the above photo is the same one, however. Hope this helps.
3rd November 2010, 00:43
Just been re-reading my 31 Oct post above and realised that I had had a senior moment and typed Whitby CASTLE instead of Whitby ABBEY as the vessel present at Gallipoli. Sorry if that confused, but it definitely was Whitby Abbey.
5th November 2010, 22:25
Many, many thanks to Ray, Joyce and Sam.
I now have a photograph and some definite information that she was at Gallipoli.
I really do appreciate all the help members have given me, what a great site this is!