Shell Tanker: M.V. Frenulina

Robinj
15th December 2005, 23:30
Hi anyone remember a small 1000 ton(approx) tanker M.V. Frenulina who I sailed on in 1961 around the Indonesian Islands (before Bali became a tourist trap), and the occasional trip to Singapore where she was laid up in early 1962. Thanks

ruud
16th December 2005, 04:08
Ahoy ROBINJ,

Here a link to her

http://www.helderline.nl/?p=/ship_details.php?id=730

Grosvenor
GT:890 Len.:193 Beam:32 B'ldr:43 Comp.:1945
Coastal Tanker. MOWT.
1947 FRENULINA, Anglo-Saxon Petroleum Co.
1954 Rebuilt to 1041 g.t, 230ft.
1962 ANLOK, Teck Hwa Shipping Co, Panama.
1962 PERMINA VI, National Oil Co, Indonesia.
1974 BIMOLI 01, P.T.Bimoli, Indonesia

Robinj
21st December 2005, 12:47
Many thanks Rudd for this Info, and all the rest you have given us.

mikefoster
20th July 2006, 00:59
> Hi anyone remember a small 1000 ton(approx) tanker M.V. Frenulina

In the early 1950s Shell had a number of little Fs. I can recall the Frenulina, Fossarus, Fossarina, Fusus and I think Ficus. Memory also links them with two ships still under the Empire name, the Empire Tesbury and the Empire Tescombe. All this is very much "scratching the head" stuff so I offer no guarantees !

Mike

Robinj
20th July 2006, 22:05
I think there was the Fossularca and the Fusinus as well.

mikefoster
21st July 2006, 03:19
[Robinj]I think there was the Fossularca and the Fusinus as well.[/QUOTE]

I'm sure you're right. You are obviously better at head scratching than I am !

Mike

Robinj
27th July 2006, 22:35
Maybe Mike but I also get splinters.

numbnuts
28th July 2006, 09:08
Hi, Robin.

Remember the Frenulina well....I was R/O in the Fusinus in 1961 and our paths crossed many times on the way to Benoa....remember the Benoa Yacht Club? The bar on stilts alongside the lagoon causeway? Good job they didn't have a Health & Safety Department in those days.

The bell of the Frenulina was is (?) in a bar on Orchard Road in Singapore.

Regards,
Tony

Robinj
31st July 2006, 22:53
Hi Tony, Yeah remember the Fusinus well and the Benoa Yacht Club. It was amazing what a packet of lucky strike would get you. I see you also sailed with Houlders Ore Carriers too. Regards Robin

Allan Wareing
12th August 2006, 13:19
I think there was the Fossularca and the Fusinus as well.
Robinj
Yes there was certainly a Fossularca - not sure about Fucinus.
Allan

Tom Logan
17th October 2006, 23:53
Hi anyone remember a small 1000 ton(approx) tanker M.V. Frenulina who I sailed on in 1961 around the Indonesian Islands (before Bali became a tourist trap), and the occasional trip to Singapore where she was laid up in early 1962. Thanks

2nd.Mate on 'Fossarina' 62/63. Joined at Balik Papan, Jonny Campkin Master, made myself popular when I asked if we should ring 'Full Ahead' after we cleared the channel, to be told we had been on full ahead since leaving the berth. At best she made about 8kts in good weather! But a good time all the same. Eastern Fleet small ships were a law to themselves. Great times.
Anyone remember to really shall ships, 'Lang','Kluang' and the rest. Any photos anywhere, particularily 'Lang' ?

ruud
18th October 2006, 08:52
Ahoy Tom,
Looking for these?

Tom Logan
18th October 2006, 20:38
Ahoy Tom,
Looking for these?

Just the thing,thanks. Are both photos Kluang? I've been looking for photos ;ike these for ages, as I fancy building a model of Lang as I was Mate on her 1n 1962 under Basil(?) Wheeler then Bob Woods. At that time Jef.Cush was master on Kluang. Have you any more photos?

Robinj
18th October 2006, 23:13
Hi Tom. Remember the Fossarins. Fusinus, Fossularca, and the Rita among others all around the Indonesian Islands.

mclean
19th October 2006, 00:13
Just the thing,thanks. Are both photos Kluang? I've been looking for photos ;ike these for ages, as I fancy building a model of Lang as I was Mate on her 1n 1962 under Basil(?) Wheeler then Bob Woods. At that time Jef.Cush was master on Kluang. Have you any more photos?

Tom, the one on the right, showing her starboard side is the Lang. The sister to the Lang was the Landak, which simply one day just vanished. Both about 305dwt. Kluang of similar size 313dwt. Regards Colin

ruud
19th October 2006, 00:16
Just the thing,thanks. Are both photos Kluang? I've been looking for photos ;ike these for ages, as I fancy building a model of Lang as I was Mate on her 1n 1962 under Basil(?) Wheeler then Bob Woods. At that time Jef.Cush was master on Kluang. Have you any more photos?
Ahoy Tom,
The photo in b/w is the Kluang, the coloured is the Lang.
Have to dig in the old shoeboxes, but will have a look later on.

Tom Logan
19th October 2006, 22:33
Tom, the one on the right, showing her starboard side is the Lang. The sister to the Lang was the Landak, which simply one day just vanished. Both about 305dwt. Kluang of similar size 313dwt. Regards Colin

Thanks for the info. I should have remembered Lang and Kluang were very similar, but not sisters. Our Old Man, Karl Wheeler ( not Basil as I said before) had had a run in witrh London office and was limited to having the smallest ship in the fleet, and when he went on leave had always to return to Lang, as she was smaller (just) than Kluang. The Locan was even smaller, but Indonesian flag.

ruud
20th October 2006, 16:48
Ahoy Tom,
As requested here the KLUANG in HR.

http://img242.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kluangjr6.jpg (http://img242.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kluangjr6.jpg)

Knut
21st October 2006, 20:56
I believe LOCAN was the one called SLING when she came under Norwegian flag. She certainly was smaller than LANG(Slang). Only Skipper and Mate Norwegians, the rest Chinese. Mainly on the Pladju-Muntok run.
LANG had a sister in Singapore supplying bunkers. I remember her well as we took on all of 4 tons of diesel from her! Served as 2.Mate on the LANG from july-63 until I had the luck to come down with kidney stone, and signed off in april 64. I have two pics of LANG, but if I try to include them here, I`m sure to mess it up. It`s easier by mail. So Tom, let me have your adress.
Knut.

Tom Logan
30th November 2006, 15:57
Thanks for the info. I should have remembered Lang and Kluang were very similar, but not sisters. Our Old Man, Karl Wheeler ( not Basil as I said before) had had a run in witrh London office and was limited to having the smallest ship in the fleet, and when he went on leave had always to return to Lang, as she was smaller (just) than Kluang. The Locan was even smaller, but Indonesian flag.

I've got it wrong again. Call it a senior moment. The Old Man was Carl Fiddler, Basil Wheeler was Master on my first Eagle Oil ship 'San Wenceslao'. Sorry Basil, if you are still with us!

mclean
3rd December 2006, 02:21
Ahoy Tom,
Looking for these?

Rudd, the photo on the right, ( Lang ) originates from the book Sea Shell. It lists the photo as having been taken at Singapore. We do not believe it is Singapore. Would anyone have any ideas on this? Colin

Knut
6th December 2006, 22:22
Ruud`s picture is neither of Lang nor of Singapore. Looks more like East Africa to me? Picture of Lang (Norw.Slang) is in the gallery. Search for SlangXLang 1953.
Anybody can see the differences. No need to point them out.
Regards, Knut.

mclean
7th December 2006, 04:37
Ruud`s picture is neither of Lang nor of Singapore. Looks more like East Africa to me? Picture of Lang (Norw.Slang) is in the gallery. Search for SlangXLang 1953.
Anybody can see the differences. No need to point them out.
Regards, Knut.

Knut, agree with you it is not the Lang for obvious reasons. Have been discussing this with Tom on email and can only assume it is the Landak which was a close sister and disappeared without trace in the 50,s. East Africa would have been outside of her trading area (Pladju/Singapore etc.).Regards Colin

davehowden
8th April 2007, 14:51
Hi,

I remember the saying "The LANG can but the LOCAN no can", must have been refering to some daring feat of navigation on the Musi at night I guess.

I was on the ANTONIA, RITA, GARI and the MERATUS in those bygone days, a good meal, a few beers and ... and still change out of twopence.

Dave Howden

stevecz
14th April 2007, 22:38
Knut, agree with you it is not the Lang for obvious reasons. Have been discussing this with Tom on email and can only assume it is the Landak which was a close sister and disappeared without trace in the 50,s. East Africa would have been outside of her trading area (Pladju/Singapore etc.).Regards Colin

Colin,
Could it be that both pictures are of the Kluang. I don't think it is Landak as she is almost identical to Lang, we are back to counting portholes again, check the spacing. Also the aftermost doors on Lang & Landak are missing on the mystery vessel. We need a beam on picture of Kluang.
Steve

Tom Logan
15th May 2007, 14:16
Hi,

I remember the saying "The LANG can but the LOCAN no can", must have been refering to some daring feat of navigation on the Musi at night I guess.

I was on the ANTONIA, RITA, GARI and the MERATUS in those bygone days, a good meal, a few beers and ... and still change out of twopence.

Dave Howden
As I remember the quote was 'Pandu can do, Locan no can' pandu being indonesian for pilot. Refered to the enterance to the Djambi river, there was an island just upriver from the bar, which should be passed to starboard, but there was a short cut on the other side. The pilot took Locan on the short cut( she must have had a new Master as she didn't normally take a pilot) but when Locan tried it later without a pilot she was arrested. Or so the story goes.

Jim MacIntyre
15th May 2007, 17:30
Hi,

I remember the saying "The LANG can but the LOCAN no can", must have been refering to some daring feat of navigation on the Musi at night I guess.

I was on the ANTONIA, RITA, GARI and the MERATUS in those bygone days, a good meal, a few beers and ... and still change out of twopence.

Dave Howden

Dave
Were you on board the RITA in Singapore harbour when she was hit amidships while at anchor by an old greek liberty ship carrying copra ? It must have been a couple of weeks before Christmas 1964

davehowden
16th May 2007, 06:55
JIm,

No, I was on her from 27/8/63 to 24/10/63 when she was coasting and from 11/2/64 to 13/4/64 when she was operating as a bunkering vessel in Singapore Harbour.On the first trip on her the Master, one Black Morgan, overuled the pilot as we were leaving Bukom and put her onto the reef/ bank that ran parallel to the jetties, much to everyones enjoyment!

Jim MacIntyre
17th May 2007, 02:47
We missed each other. I was only signed on as third mate for a few weeks waiting for a replacement. Had been on articles since very early 1964 on both Axina and Ninella and was torn between 11 more days sea time for Mates or getting home for Christmas. Almost a big mistake - While on the Rita they wanted me to transfer to one of the 'H' class (Hemiglypta I think) might have been Australian flag - the third mate there was hospitalized with a broken leg. Fortunately they flew someone in from Aussie in time and I managed to get away the week before Christmas. BTW I still need those 11 days for mates but I reckon I'll pass now.
Rita wasn't a bad berth on the bunkering assignment - plenty shore leave and the milk girls every day....

Cheers

Roger Boyden
17th May 2007, 05:48
Hi Robin,

I was R/O on Fusinus from March 60 to April 61. Was signed off just when she started the relief on the Saigon - Pnom Penh run. Ian Strachan (off a D ship) took over from me.

Cheers
Roger

Mike Robinson
24th December 2007, 12:48
Saw your message re the Lang & Kluang.
I sailed as Mate onboard the Guntur from 1958 to 1959.We loaded out of Pladju and supplied Cheribon (north coast of Java) Djambi (100 odd miles up a river of the same name in Sumatra,Pontianak and occasionally Semarang.
The river passage up to Djambi was,apart from the mouth,uncharted-grounding was a regular occurrence and also,in the rainy season,floating trees became a hazard. I think it was the Kluang,who,observing one tree to starboard and one to port,bisected them neatly but only to discover that the two "trees" were but branches of the main tree that was floating submerged.Result-no propellor and a tow job to Singapore.
Have been engaged in a communication on another site regarding the fate of the Landak,which disappeared en route from Jesselton to Singapore in 1959.The hearing in Singapore was inconclusive but would be interested to know if you have any thoughts on the matter.

Regards
Mike Robinson
(edited to remove email ddress as per site policy)

Allan Wareing
25th December 2007, 09:30
Hi Mike, I think you will find that it was 1956 when Landak went missing. I was Mate in Bela at the time running around the Singapore area.
Regards, Allan Wareing.

Keith Adkins
5th March 2011, 14:58
I served over a year on the Gena mainly 1962, and during that period there was a strong rumour going around that the 2nd Mate on either the Lang or Kluang had been murdered whilst anchored in the Musi. Can anyone shed any light on this please.

david.hopcroft
5th March 2011, 16:54
In early 1963,I was on a tanker in Malacca one afternoon when we passed a Shell 'G' boat. The 2nd Mate said he heard that the Capt of one of the G's went over the side while bronzying on top of an awning. Change of course or something. He apparently wasn't missed until a following Ben boat called to tell them !!

Anyone know if this was true ??

David
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Keith Adkins
6th March 2011, 08:19
David you are probably referring to the time that Captain Plenty of the Gena fell over the side approaching Penang and was picked up by the pilot boat, which took him ashore and he was at Butterworth when the ship docked. The ship had VHF but the pilot boat didn't. Lets say that he wasn't best pleased that he wasn't missed till seen on the jetty.
Regards
Keith

david.hopcroft
6th March 2011, 18:57
Keith

Well you know how these stories go.

Were you ever at GKZ ??

David
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Keith Adkins
7th March 2011, 10:56
Yes for a very short time between 65-67, Angus Stark was OIC.
Went back to sea as couldn't make R/O 2 conditions pay
Keith

david.hopcroft
8th March 2011, 14:56
Keith

The thumbnail is taken from a recruitment poster c1969. The picture is me ! Hope you can read the blurb below it.

David
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frank fish
8th March 2011, 16:39
I was Second Mate on the Fossarina in 1959 great run Phuket before tourists Benoa (Bali) Pare Pare Ambon etc.Never the less she was a hard working ship watch and watch with not a lot of time to sleep as we had a master who thought he was in command of a Battleship and didn't help out much. Frenulina was a motor ship whilst the Fossarina and Fusinus were triple expansion steamers.The beast of the small ships was the Guntur so cramped the Mate and Second Mate had to share a cabin

Bobmac
26th March 2011, 20:39
2nd mate Saroena 1960 - sometimes refered to as the Terror of the Musi because of our poor steering charging around the Musi. 2nd mate Geomitra earlier on when transfered from Maraquaibo to eastern fleet with Gina( a breast of the times) & Gari

Allan Wareing
27th March 2011, 00:59
I was Second Mate on the Fossarina in 1959 great run Phuket before tourists Benoa (Bali) Pare Pare Ambon etc.Never the less she was a hard working ship watch and watch with not a lot of time to sleep as we had a master who thought he was in command of a Battleship and didn't help out much. Frenulina was a motor ship whilst the Fossarina and Fusinus were triple expansion steamers.The beast of the small ships was the Guntur so cramped the Mate and Second Mate had to share a cabin

Hello again Frank
I was greatly amused by post#35- it could'nt have happened to a nicer bloke! I'll get in touch with you by e-mail again soon.
Regards, Allan

Keith Adkins
27th March 2011, 12:27
2nd mate Saroena 1960 - sometimes refered to as the Terror of the Musi because of our poor steering charging around the Musi. 2nd mate Geomitra earlier on when transfered from Maraquaibo to eastern fleet with Gina( a breast of the times) & Gari
When were you on the Gena Bobmac?