WW1 Destroyers

John Parr
6th January 2006, 21:02
Hi. I'm a new boy so be gentle with me!

I am trying to find out the details of my grandad's ww1 naval career. My Dad is sure he served on destroyers at Jutland but his naval records do not mention any destroyers among the ships he served on. He was however shown as posted to HMS Dido, which I understand was the depot ship for the 9th/ 10th Destroyer Flotilla.

Is there an explanation for this, or is my Dad's memory failing him?

jbryce
6th January 2006, 21:15
It is usual for ships you served on to be listed on your Service Documents, but he may have been given a "pier head jump" to a ship which required a particular rating for some reason. This may have happened when he was on the Depot Ship and he may have remained on Dido's books.
What other ships did he serve on?

Doug Rogers
7th January 2006, 02:04
Welcome John, am sure you will get some other assistance along the way as well.

Pusser509
7th January 2006, 08:05
It was common practice in those days, when small ships didn't carry paymasters, to have the crew carried on the books of the depot ship. All pay and supply related accounting would be undertaken and recorded there. The service record should indicate "HMS Dido (name of destroyer)". If it does not then perhaps it was, in fact, as a result of a "pier head jump" that your father was at Jutland, for destroyers of the 9th and 10th flotillas did take part. The 9th flotilla ships were "L" class but I'm not sure about the 10th.

I hope this is useful.

John Parr
7th January 2006, 13:03
Thanks for your response on this - all of you. Having now taken another look at the service record (with a magnifying glass!) I can see that it shows the entry as 'Dido (Landrail)' - you've cracked it! My reseach shows that Landrail was an L class destroyer which was involved at Jutland.

To answer the question that was raised, he is also shown as serving on Berwick, Intrepid and Vanguard. He started off as an Arethusa boy and joined up when he was 18.

bsturrell
7th January 2006, 14:26
Hi John

There's information about Landrail at Jutland here

http://www.naval-history.net/WW1NavyBritishDestroyers.htm

and here http://www.battleships-cruisers.co.uk/laforey_class.htm

Have attached what info I have

R58484956
7th January 2006, 14:58
Welcome John to the site, as you have already noted ask a question and the answer pops up like magic, very seldom is there a negative response.

John Parr
7th January 2006, 16:38
Thanks again to you all - the info re Landrail is brilliant. Any further info or pictures of any sort would be very welcome.

Ultimately I intend to build a model in his memory, so the next challenge is getting hold of a set of plans. I guess the NMM is the obvious place to look?

John

Bannedus
7th January 2006, 16:51
Laforey Class destroyer.

raybnz
7th January 2006, 20:35
Hi John

My father was on HMS Hydra during the Battle of Jutland. She was a destroyer.

I was able to get a copy of his career in the Royal navy but at this time I cannot remember just where from.

In any of the books Ive read on the battle the destroyers were not mentioned very much.Dad did say one part theywere a escort for the bigger ships.

Ray Blackley

Hi. I'm a new boy so be gentle with me!

I am trying to find out the details of my grandad's ww1 naval career. My Dad is sure he served on destroyers at Jutland but his naval records do not mention any destroyers among the ships he served on. He was however shown as posted to HMS Dido, which I understand was the depot ship for the 9th/ 10th Destroyer Flotilla.

Is there an explanation for this, or is my Dad's memory failing him?

John Parr
7th January 2006, 21:56
Thanks for recent info. Pictures and weblinks have been very helpful. The research has moved on a long way in 24 hours thanks to you guys!

Santos
7th January 2006, 22:05
If anyone has a book called ENDLESS STORY by Taffrail ( Captain Henry Taprell Dorling R.N. ) or can get hold of one, it tells the full story of the R.N. Destroyers during the 1st World War including the Battle of Jutland. The book was written in 1931.

Landrail is mentioned quite a bit in the chapters relating to Jutland and she also features before the battle. She was involved in a serious collision in April 1915 in the Bight when she collided with HMS Undaunted in thick fog. Her bows were crushed and she attempted to make her own home. However the bulkhead in what was left of her forepart began to give and she was forced to stop.

She was finally taken in tow stern first by the Cruiser Arethusa in quite bad weather. Finally after twice having had the tow parted, Arethusa got her home to England.

Endless Story is a wonderful book and well worth reading, factual and with many amusing stories of what destroyers got up to. There are also some tragic ones too I am afraid, but it is a marvellous true story of the R.N.Destroyers at that time in their history.

Chris.

jbryce
8th January 2006, 19:01
You will find info on how to get copies of Service Documents on this site
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/royal-navy-service.asp

Jeffers
9th January 2006, 10:56
There is a copy of "Endless Story" for sale on Ebay. I tried to copy the link to it but couldn't manage it. If a search is done on "Taffrail" that'll find it (it did for me!) It's got six days to go on it's listing if anyone is interested.

EDWARD MILLER
14th July 2008, 06:12
I am Ted Miller, a new member Australian. Here goes. My wife is the granddaughter of the late Francis E H G Hobart, who commanded "Landrail" in WWI, including the battles of Dogger Bank and Jutland. He claimed, in his very brief notes of his career, to have rammed and sunk a German submarine during the Battle of Jutland. I have seen no other reference to this incident. Conversely, he made no reference to involvement in the subsequent sinking of a U-boat near Callais, nor the collision with "Undaunted".
If I could obtain copy of his service record, the dates of his various command apointments might become clear. How might I do this from afar?

I have attached relevant sections on our family history notes, which may be of interest. (Hope it works)

K urgess
14th July 2008, 11:47
Welcome to the crew, Ted.
Sounds an interesting bit of history and I'm sure the crew can help.
If you're having problems attaching stuff to your post send a PM to any one of us moderators and we'll try to help.
Cheers
Kris

EDWARD MILLER
21st July 2008, 10:00
Thanks, Kris. I have converted the attachment to plain text, which seems to be acceptable.

Ted