Self Publish

Shipbuilder
8th December 2011, 16:12
Having got fed up of being rejected or kept waiting by conventional maritime publishers, I recently decided to go down the despised path of "Vanity Publishing!

It was surprisingly easy. I wrote the book manuscript in one long word file with pictures inserted wherever I felt like it. Then converted the whole lot to PDF (suitable for Acrobat Reader). Next, went to www.inkylittlefingers.co.uk and to Purfect Bound books section. Selected my required formant, got an instant quote via their online calculator, and then paid online. Dowloaded it to their computer (about five minutes), sat back and waited. Six days later, three big boxes of books arrived beautifully produced and bound. All photographs came out well and absolutely delighted with the deal.

I know a few of you have been asking about self-publishing. I found it all very stress-free.

Bob

stores
8th December 2011, 17:00
well done, a dream of mine to publish a photo history of watts wats ships. but copyright is the problem could not state where most of my photos originated from.

Shipbuilder
8th December 2011, 17:04
The World Ship Society has thousands of pictures and they only charge about 2 each for permission to use! It ocurred to me that hundreds of us here have thousands of pictures that we took at sea and I have found that if I ask permission for use, it is generally granted. Similarly if anyone wants to use mine, I do not object as long as I am asked first.
Bob

NoMoss
8th December 2011, 17:34
Having got fed up of being rejected or kept waiting by conventional maritime publishers, I recently decided to go down the despised path of "Vanity Publishing!

It was surprisingly easy. I wrote the book manuscript in one long word file with pictures inserted wherever I felt like it. Then converted the whole lot to PDF (suitable for Acrobat Reader). Next, went to www.inkylittlefingers.co.uk and to Purfect Bound books section. Selected my required formant, got an instant quote via their online calculator, and then paid online. Dowloaded it to their computer (about five minutes), sat back and waited. Six days later, three big boxes of books arrived beautifully produced and bound. All photographs came out well and absolutely delighted with the deal.

I know a few of you have been asking about self-publishing. I found it all very stress-free.

Bob

That is very interesting. Did you explore online publishing?

Shipbuilder
8th December 2011, 17:43
I made a search of Google and chose Inky Fingers because I was able to get an instant quote and they had good reviews. The quality of the finished books is excellent, the inner pages being on 130gsm silk paper.
Equally as good in quality as books produced by conventional publishers.
Bob

Reef Knot
8th December 2011, 17:50
Good show, Bob! Lovely piece of work! (Thumb)

Quiney
8th December 2011, 17:50
I made a search of Google and chose Inky Fingers because I was able to get an instant quote and they had good reviews. The quality of the finished books is excellent, the inner pages being on 130gsm silk paper.
Equally as good in quality as books produced by conventional publishers.
Bob

So are you selling them Bob?

charles henry
8th December 2011, 17:51
Having got fed up of being rejected or kept waiting by conventional maritime publishers, I recently decided to go down the despised path of "Vanity Publishing!

Six days later, three big boxes of books arrived beautifully produced and bound. All photographs came out well and absolutely delighted with the deal.

I know a few of you have been asking about self-publishing. I found it all very stress-free.

Bob
Your description and comments are absolutely correct
The main question however is HOW DID YOU SELL THEM?

Been there, done that
Regards Chas

Shipbuilder
8th December 2011, 18:01
I haven't sold any yet as I only received them at lunch time today. But with all these online selling sites and the internet, it isn't any great problem these days. I have had a book published in the conventional way and it sold out pretty quickly, but it took years to get it accepted and it was rejected by most of the major maritime publishers on the flimsy grounds than no-one is interested in personal reminiscences these days. Even after acceptance I had to wait a year before it came into print.

I have sold e-books on CD disks and they went like hot cakes, but a book that you can hold is much better in my view.

I raised the money to pay for the books by selling bits & pieces and e-books on online auction sites.

Labour of love really, but I am sure they will go!

Bob

makko
8th December 2011, 19:22
Well done, Bob! Congratulations.
Rgds.
Dave

Shipbuilder
8th December 2011, 19:24
Thanks,
The first one sold a few minutes ago!
Bob

tom e kelso
8th December 2011, 20:00
Bob,

I'm intrigued by the lower picture on the cover...it looks like a BI "N" class steamer 1883/84. Would I be correct and what is the connection? (I've never seen this particular pic before)

Regards

Tom

Shipbuilder
8th December 2011, 20:05
It is a British India steamer, but I don't know which one. When I first put my proposed cover on my website, Belgian Marine Artist Ronny Moortgat e-mailed me and volunteered some of his paintings for the book, and I chose these two for the cover. You can find more about Ronny on a google search. The top painting is simply entitled "The Steady Run Home!"
Bob

John Briggs
8th December 2011, 22:46
Well done Bob. Looks good quality.
Can I ask how much for a book?

Strachan
9th December 2011, 00:28
Can I ask how much for a book?

I have self-published, promoted, and sold 13 (specialist) books so far. Printing & Postage comes to +/- A$10 per 100 pages so I retail at $125 ea. and sell +/- 1000 copies of each book over 2 or 3 years until they die a natural death.

If you sell through a bookstore then expect to be hit with 40% commission. You should have an ISBN number (Google it) for each book and deposit a copy with the State Library and 2 to the National Library, Canberra. Spiral bound is cheap but doesn't go down well with the buyers, Perfect binding is more expensive but looks better.

One a year is as much as my (specialist) market will bear but a dedicated clientele buy "pre-publication" for a coupla bucks off and I don't have to put my hand in my pocket for production.

It's hard work, you have to be accurate, and above all honest.

John Briggs
9th December 2011, 02:47
Thanks Strachan. I have also self published a book with ISBN and all the bells
& whistles but it retails for $25.50.
It is stocked by a couple of bookshops but the major part of my sales are
through the internet.
My book is just over 200 pages so yours must be very large at around 1250 pages.

Strachan
9th December 2011, 04:25
Thanks Strachan. I have also self published a book with ISBN and all the bells
& whistles but it retails for $25.50.

My book is just over 200 pages so yours must be very large at around 1250 pages.

John, my books aren't 'happy memories of being at sea'. You can publish that once, and once only. It'd probably be interesting to compare with ones own experiences at sea, but that's all I'd expect for 25 bucks.

My stuff is (as I said) specialist ... it contains database analyses and interpretations of the Relative Frequencies of various elements contained in 2.76 million records (at todays count). That's why I've successfully published 13 of them.

Please don't get your knickers in a twist or I'll send Roly after you :-)

Keltic Star
9th December 2011, 04:49
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My stuff is (as I said) specialist ... it contains database analyses and interpretations of the Relative Frequencies of various elements contained in 2.76 million records (at todays count). That's why I've successfully published 13 of them.

Please don't get your knickers in a twist or I'll send Roly after you :-)

Wow, with a subject like that no wonder you can sell them at $125 each and I guess if I wanted to know what the "subject' is, I would need to buy one of your books.

Joking aside, many congratulations.

John Briggs
9th December 2011, 06:10
John, my books aren't 'happy memories of being at sea'. You can publish that once, and once only. It'd probably be interesting to compare with ones own experiences at sea, but that's all I'd expect for 25 bucks.

My stuff is (as I said) specialist ... it contains database analyses and interpretations of the Relative Frequencies of various elements contained in 2.76 million records (at todays count). That's why I've successfully published 13 of them.

Please don't get your knickers in a twist or I'll send Roly after you :-)

Ha, ha, ha (==D) Thanks Strachan.
Please don't worry Roly!

Shipbuilder
9th December 2011, 06:37
John,
I have sent you an e-mail direct - hope it gets through OK.

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I grew weary of seeing thick nautical books, well produced, that when I looked inside, had 3/4 of the content about coracles, Phoenician Galleys, and galleons followed by the obligatory BOUNTY, VICTORY, CUTTY SARK and TITANIC with only the last few pages beginning to get interesting.

I suppose when doing something like this, it is important to accept that it will not make you rich, but is a good feeling to produce a book, knowing that it may still be read in 100 years + and one needs something to do in retirement!

Bob

stein
9th December 2011, 09:26
Congratulations. I believe I would feel great delight in unpacking a box of books written by me - but I'm just too lazy to do anything but dream...

I've bought a number of "print on demand" books, and truly they arrived with a print date a day or so after I ordered them. Amazing what they can do these days.

BillH
9th December 2011, 10:13
The World Ship Society has thousands of pictures and they only charge about 2 each for permission to use! It ocurred to me that hundreds of us here have thousands of pictures that we took at sea and I have found that if I ask permission for use, it is generally granted. Similarly if anyone wants to use mine, I do not object as long as I am asked first.
Bob

2 if you are a WSS member, 5 if not and also if they are prepared to release them. Sometimes they have set aside batches either by theme or by company for their future monthly photo offers.

I know of this because I have just encountered that problem of setting aside.

billyboy
9th December 2011, 10:25
I have read John Briggs book "The World is my Ocean" a very enjoyable read indeed. ISBN 978-0-646-51669-1 if anyone wishes to order a copy.

Shipbuilder
9th December 2011, 15:36
BillH,
On 1st Aug this year, World Ship sent me their price list and it says publication fee for non-members 2.50, publication fee for members 2.00. (For pictures already in possession of person wanting to use them)

To search for and supply one-off scans for non-members is 5, but for members it is 2.

Anyway, I have rejoined them since then. Was a member for years, but let it lapse.

Their "offers" policy is a bit of a pain, because you have to wait months for them! Doesn't say how much postage to add either!

Bob

BillH
9th December 2011, 16:48
BillH,
On 1st Aug this year, World Ship sent me their price list and it says publication fee for non-members 2.50, publication fee for members 2.00. (For pictures already in possession of person wanting to use them)

To search for and supply one-off scans for non-members is 5, but for members it is 2.

Anyway, I have rejoined them since then. Was a member for years, but let it lapse.

Their "offers" policy is a bit of a pain, because you have to wait months for them! Doesn't say how much postage to add either!

Bob

Hi Bob,

I've been a continuous member since 1963 and have had several books published by them since 1988.

I am now producing my own on books as PDF on CD, seven so far and doing reasonably well.

In relation to the WSS quoted prices they must have adjusted them since informing you. Below is the e-mailed reply I received to an enquiry. It came from the Photo Library head person, about 2 weeks ago .

No mention of scanning prices.

Regards
Bill


Bill,

Thanks for your enquiry. Situation at the moment is that we ask for a publication fee of 2 from members, 5 from non-members, for any photograph that the WSS holds the copyright to. This includes prints already held by the author. This is waived for any publications or articles produced for the Ship Society.

Regarding provision of other or new material from the WSS Photo Library, Stephenson Clarke as one of the more popular shipping companies has any related negatives, prints and slides currently reserved for inclusion in our regular print offers in Marine News.

Regards, Jim.

Shipbuilder
9th December 2011, 19:00
Hi Bill,
Thanks for info. Looking at my e-mail, it came on 13th October last, so I suppose yours supercedes it. Just as well that I am now a member again! But it is very difficult to know what is going on, not just in this matter, but anything at all, because things seem to change from day to day.

Not all that long ago, Skyfotos allowed publication for a simple credit. On my last enquiry a few weeks ago, it was 65 per image and that killed the idea stone dead, but it all seems to depend on who you speak to at the time - all very confusing. And to further confuse matters, hardly anyone seems inclined to put anything in writing any more.

Bob