Mid Channel Collision

Gulpers
31st January 2006, 07:11
MRCC Portland Co-ordinate British Response to Mid Channel Collision
http://www.gnn.gov.uk/Content/Detail.asp?ReleaseID=185993&NewsAreaID=2

Subsequent updates will be found at the following link (Select Maritime and Coastguard Agency in the drop down list.)
http://www.gnn.gov.uk/content/default.asp?NewsAreaID=2&localeID=-1&clientID=-1&DepartmentMode=1&displayMinisters=False

BBC News coverage here:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/devon/4664564.stm

billyboy
31st January 2006, 07:28
a very interesting site gulpers. thank you for posting that.

humbertug
31st January 2006, 08:27
just seen it on the news no doubt Ced and coastie will keep us all up to date
them chaps do a fine job

ruud
31st January 2006, 08:33
Ahoy,

Here both in better days;no sources of or , sorry.
Details of ECE:
Vessel:ECE

DNV ID:23682IMO
No:8510752
Status:In Operation
Previous Names (https://exchange.dnv.com/exchange/main.aspx?extool=vessel&subview=previousnames&imono=8510752)
Overview https://exchange.dnv.com/css/Due.gif Status (https://exchange.dnv.com/exchange/main.aspx?extool=vessel&subview=status&imono=8510752) SummaryDimensions (https://exchange.dnv.com/exchange/main.aspx?extool=vessel&subview=dimensions&imono=8510752)Classification (https://exchange.dnv.com/exchange/main.aspx?extool=vessel&subview=classification&imono=8510752)Registry (https://exchange.dnv.com/exchange/main.aspx?extool=vessel&subview=registry&imono=8510752)Hull Summary (https://exchange.dnv.com/exchange/main.aspx?extool=vessel&subview=hullsummary&imono=8510752)Yard (https://exchange.dnv.com/exchange/main.aspx?extool=vessel&subview=yard&imono=8510752)Owner (https://exchange.dnv.com/exchange/main.aspx?extool=vessel&subview=owner&imono=8510752)
Flag:Marshall Islands
Signal Letters:V7DF6
Port:MAJURO
Owner:Sirena Marine Inc. (https://exchange.dnv.com/exchange/main.aspx?extool=company&companyid=108104)
GT (ITC 69):8,003 (108104)NT (ITC 69):3,309
Manager:Aksay Denizcilik ve Ticaret A.S. (https://exchange.dnv.com/exchange/main.aspx?extool=company&companyid=196765)
DWT:11,298 (196765)
Yard:IZAR ASTILLERO SESTAO (https://exchange.dnv.com/exchange/main.aspx?extool=company&companyid=101035) (101035)
Year of Build:1988
Type:120 - Tanker for Chemicals
Sister Vessels (https://exchange.dnv.com/exchange/main.aspx?extool=vessel&subview=sistervessels&imono=8510752) Class Notation: (https://exchange.dnv.com/Exchange/en/MainClass.html)https://exchange.dnv.com/css/MalteseCrossWithDot.gif 1A1 ICE-1B Tanker for Chemicals ESP E0 HL(2.1, 1.6)
Register Notation:Ship type 2,a1.2,ss,b3,c3,v3,f1.2,str 0.1,k
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Details of General Grot-Rowecki:
IMO number:8417754
Name of ship:GENERAL GROT-ROWECKI
Call Sign:9HZU6
Gross tonnage:23409
Type of ship:Bulk Carrier
Year of build:1985
Flag:Malta
Status of ship:In Service
Registered owner:CEPHEUS SHIPPING
Address:8, Plac Rodla, Szczecin POLAND
Ship manager:POLISH STEAMSHIP
Address:8, Plac Rodla, Szczecin POLAND
Last update:14-05-2001

non descript
31st January 2006, 08:37
Excellent work, as always, Ruud. Thank you

Doxfordman
31st January 2006, 11:34
Gulper's,

Whats the inside info??? I believe they were on a parallel course, how did they collide?? I thought Joburg Traffic controlled the area?, and the lane seperatioin is pretty big??

Strange Eh??

John_F
31st January 2006, 11:59
Looks like good news for the scallop population of the South West then.
John F

Gulpers
31st January 2006, 12:08
Gulper's,

Whats the inside info??? I believe they were on a parallel course, how did they collide?? I thought Joburg Traffic controlled the area?, and the lane seperatioin is pretty big??

Strange Eh??
Sorry Dox,

All I know is what is on the Press Releases. (*))

Chief Engineer's Daughter
31st January 2006, 16:26
All I ken is what I heard on channel 16 from 700 + miles awa!!!! Some weather eh?! At 0220 this morn it all went wrong and French had a big problem on their hands. They requested assistance from Portland Coastguard who Sent Coastguard Helicopter India Juliet and Rescue 169. The crew was lifted off and the Guernsey Lifeboat took some on board and I ken nae mair cos I went off watch! (Thumb)

Doxfordman
31st January 2006, 18:36
Thanks CED,

must have been freky weather for you to hear on VHF, I thought that only happened in the Gulf - high press?

I ken the GSY lifeboat pretty well having lived there for a wee while. Good on em. More bronze medals1??

We used to do a lot of exercises with India Jullet, great bunch of guys.

jim barnes
31st January 2006, 20:00
Looks like good news for the scallop population of the South West then.
John F
Cruel but made me LOL (*))

fredkinghorn
1st February 2006, 07:43
ECE has gone down according to BBC this morning, under tow to Le Harve. No pollution say " those who know "

fred.

" a spectre is haunting Europe "

ruud
1st February 2006, 08:08
Ahoy,

According to the French Press at 03:30 hrs.
piccies Marine Nationale and AFP.

Gulpers
1st February 2006, 09:21
BBC site confirming ECE's loss. :@

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/guernsey/4668664.stm

Another interesting angle on the incident at this site. (?HUH)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/guernsey/4666020.stm

ruud
1st February 2006, 10:07
Ahoy,

Yes, according to Paris MoU, she has been reported regular, but often not been detentioned and with a lot of deficiencies, able to sail.


http://www.equasis.org/equasis/affiche.build_page_2?P_IMO=8417754&P_SHIP_MANAGER=0102695&Z_CHK=30137

Gulpers
1st February 2006, 10:47
Ahoy,

Yes, according to Paris MoU, she has been reported regular, but often not been detentioned and with a lot of deficiencies, able to sail.


http://www.equasis.org/equasis/affiche.build_page_2?P_IMO=8417754&P_SHIP_MANAGER=0102695&Z_CHK=30137
That's quite a list Ruud! (Cloud)

Ray

Pat McCardle
1st February 2006, 13:07
Ahoy,

Yes, according to Paris MoU, she has been reported regular, but often not been detentioned and with a lot of deficiencies, able to sail.


http://www.equasis.org/equasis/affiche.build_page_2?P_IMO=8417754&P_SHIP_MANAGER=0102695&Z_CHK=30137

There must be hundreds getting passed the authorities. How many are given the authority to sail from one port to another 'FOR REPAIRS' & don't turn up? I have mentioned this to a MCA official here in GB, with the use of internet & port to port contact these vessels would have their chances to do a runner blocked a wee bit more than what is happening at present. He shrugged his shoulders!! (Cloud)

R58484956
1st February 2006, 13:52
There will not be any polution coming from the ship as that what does leak will be diluted by the sea so it said on GB tv today.

ruud
1st February 2006, 14:49
Ahoy,

The French aren't that sure about it, for those who can read French,phosphoric acid,they think it can damage flora and fauna; there is a short video of the accident, to be seen with Windows Media Player or Real Player.


http://news.tf1.fr/news/france/0,,3281853,00.html

Piccie REUTERS/Marine Nationale

Gulpers
1st February 2006, 15:20
Thanks for that url Ruud - very interesting!

What's even more amazing is that I could still read the written report and understand most of the audio. It must be at least 15 years since I used any French language skills. Mind you, don't ask me to write in French - that has always been a "black art" to me! (Applause)

ruud
1st February 2006, 15:47
Ahoy,

Avec Plaisir!!!!!
I won't ask you to write,(*)) but indeed the rapports are easily to read, and the critics from French habitants also, some of them are really worried about the third accident this month, in the Canal zone, such as don't they use radar, were they on automatic pilot, more control by air, and last but not least the danger of ships with dangerous cargoes, must be more looked over.

Here another video from the Figaro, below the article:
http://www.lefigaro.fr/icons_edition3/trans.gif

(http://javascript<b></b>:ftvlaunch(202674,3,'lefigaro');)http://www.lefigaro.fr/societe/20060201.FIG0247.html?170829

Tmac1720
1st February 2006, 16:55
Thanks for that url Ruud - very interesting!

What's even more amazing is that I could still read the written report and understand most of the audio. It must be at least 15 years since I used any French language skills. Mind you, don't ask me to write in French - that has always been a "black art" to me! (Applause)
Why has General De Gaulle got Greek letters round his hat?
He'd look ruddy stupid with French ones....Boom Boom (*))
Yes sir I'll go away now, sir!! (K)

Tmac1720
1st February 2006, 16:58
From media reports the Polish vessel was a bundle of scrap or put more politely an accident waiting to happen. Apparently she has been detained four times previously by the MCA for safety defects. Makes you wonder (?HUH)

Doxfordman
1st February 2006, 18:38
The ship is only as good as the crew, and the management! Authorities have to start policing properly foreign crews and crews on flags of convienience ships. MCA etc have to look afar and get of the backs of the blue chip operators which are all too easy to give the ****s too! Grrrrrrrrrrr.

Gulpers
1st February 2006, 18:43
The ship is only as good as the crew, and the management! Authorities have to start policing properly foreign crews and crews on flags of convienience ships. MCA etc have to look afar and get of the backs of the blue chip operators which are all too easy to give the ****s too! Grrrrrrrrrrr.
Dox,

Concur, but can't say too much!

stevecz
1st February 2006, 18:45
Ahoy,

The French aren't that sure about it, for those who can read French,phosphoric acid,they think it can damage flora and fauna; there is a short video of the accident, to be seen with Windows Media Player or Real Player.


http://news.tf1.fr/news/france/0,,3281853,00.html

Piccie REUTERS/Marine NationaleHi, Rudd,
It's the fuel and Lube-oil they should be worried about!

As for the flora, should be no problem, Phosphoric Acid is used to make fertillizer.
The Fauna, again no problem, it's used to flavour POP, look at the ingredients on a can of CocaCola........ Second thoughts, what damage could it do to them without the rum.