50s coasters

1193227371
6th March 2006, 22:31
Hi all
Looking to find info on coasters of the 50s (1) JATO
(2) PRINCESS WILHELMINA both on regular run from CI to Portsmouth late 50 early 60s with german ship Stad Essen and two Wharton ships Trentonia and Tryonia and Rix ship Megrix would be greatful for any help on any of these .
Thanks fo all the threads brings back alot ..ED

ruud
7th March 2006, 05:31
Ahoy,

I found the JATO[PFCE] ex MEIKE[PFXJ] IMO:5170642 built in 1950 at the Scheepsbouw Unie[Groningen][245]
Hope this is the one you're looking for, and will come back later on the others.
Which I believe the PRINCESS should be PRINSES, and the Germans wrote STAD[Dutch] as STADT[German], there was a STADT ESSEN[DKFL] 1956 built at Werft Nobiskrug[Rendsburg] for Alfred Roth.

R58484956
7th March 2006, 12:33
Prinses Wilhelmina 500 tons built 1951 by NV Schpsf. 8 cyl diesel, 169.8 x 29.5 x 13.4
code flags PGWR Registered Groningen. Dutch flag. DF.ESD. Owned by G Dories.
Maybe this is the one you want ?

ruud
7th March 2006, 12:57
Ahoy,

Yep this could be the only one, here some more details/info

ruud
7th March 2006, 13:03
Ahoy,

Here another one,

ruud
7th March 2006, 13:07
Ahoy,

And another one;

ruud
8th March 2006, 15:00
Ahoy,

Can't find anything on the Megrix? Someone else?

1193227371
8th March 2006, 19:33
Hi there
I cannot thank you enough for the info both R58484956 and ruud have found for me it is great to know in this day and age there are good caring people out there THANK YOU ED (Applause)

1193227371
8th March 2006, 22:01
HI again the name megrix should be MAGRIX the year build 1938 sorry ED

ruud
8th March 2006, 23:47
Ahoy,

That change everything, I have some details,built in 08-1938 at Scheepswerf "Gideon" before named J.Koster Hzn-Groningen.
Call/Flag Sign:MMWM
BRT:454
DWT:609
Company: J.R. Rix & Sons Ltd.
P.o.R.:Hull
Flag:British
LOA x B x D:165'4" x 25'9" x 10'11¼"
Eng:Oil Engine 4SA 8Cy.280x450mm Humboldt-Deutz ¤NEmade37fitted49

1193227371
9th March 2006, 20:30
Well ruud i dont no what to say that is her and what a bonus the photo and also leaveing camber docks portsmouth THANKS AGAIN ED

Rory
9th March 2006, 22:57
Hi Ruud;

Nicely done on The 50ies Coasters. I wonder if you might have any info or pix on these Dutch built vessels from late 1930s.

As always your help will be most appreciated.

Cheers,
Rory

MATABELE COAST-1938 N.V. Boele's Scheepsw. & Mach., Bolnes ex Dorset Coast.1947-51?
CLYDE COAST-1938 N.V.Industrielle Maats. "de Noord", Alblasserdam
DENBIGH COAST-1936 N.V.Industrielle Maats. "de Noord", Alblasserdam
MERSEY COAST-1938 N.V.Industrielle Maats. "de Noord", Alblasserdam

ruud
10th March 2006, 08:26
Ahoy Rory,

Sorry I can't scan at the moment, but will keep it in mind asap my printer/scanner is repaired, I will post some of the wanted piccies.

Rory
11th March 2006, 03:08
Hi Ruud;

Thanks for your reply. Just found it, as I'm not always able to find my way back.

Don't you just love computers and the other hardware? Always something to fix or replace. Hope you do get your printer working again though as that is a hard one to get along without.

Cheers,
Rory

James MacDonald
9th April 2006, 21:10
Goede avond Ruud.
I see you have posted a few old Dutch coasters of the 50s, Do you have one of the Tramp, she was sold to Hays of Lerwick & renamed the Shetland Trader,I was mate there around 1975.
Best regards,
Jim

ruud
21st June 2006, 07:03
Hi all
Looking to find info on coasters of the 50s (1) JATO
(2) PRINCESS WILHELMINA both on regular run from CI to Portsmouth late 50 early 60s with german ship Stad Essen and two Wharton ships Trentonia and Tryonia and Rix ship Megrix would be greatful for any help on any of these .
Thanks fo all the threads brings back alot ..EDAhoy ED,
Not forgotten, here your Trentonia 1964:

ruud
21st June 2006, 07:19
Goede avond Ruud.
I see you have posted a few old Dutch coasters of the 50s, Do you have one of the Tramp, she was sold to Hays of Lerwick & renamed the Shetland Trader,I was mate there around 1975.
Best regards,
JimAhoy Jim,
I do have quite some "Tramp's ", so not too sure which one, but found this Shetland Trader 1972, is this the one you're looking for?

are39
21st June 2006, 08:47
Ahoy,

Can't find anything on the Megrix? Someone else?


I have picture coaster MAGRIX.Sailed on her 1954 British flag.

ruud
25th June 2006, 11:03
Ahoy,

I found the JATO[PFCE] ex MEIKE[PFXJ] IMO:5170642 built in 1950 at the Scheepsbouw Unie[Groningen][245]
Hope this is the one you're looking for, and will come back later on the others.
Which I believe the PRINCESS should be PRINSES, and the Germans wrote STAD[Dutch] as STADT[German], there was a STADT ESSEN[DKFL] 1956 built at Werft Nobiskrug[Rendsburg] for Alfred Roth.
Ahoy,
Here the Stadt Essen as Stadt Rendsburg,seen at the Nieuwe Waterweg [New Waterway]

shipmate17
25th June 2006, 17:40
Hi Ruud,
Have old photo of Basuto Coast,dont know if you are interested in this one.
cheers.

ruud
25th June 2006, 18:25
Ahoy,

Yep always interested, you know the "mailaddress"?

tell
26th June 2006, 00:07
dutch clog 'Calyx' any info on this one please? Welsh owned I believe

ruud
26th June 2006, 06:33
Ahoy,

There's a piccie here:

http://www.rhiw.com/y_mor/coastal_vessels_photos/vessels_02/ships_02.htm

The only one I could find is a 1929 built as Eems-1935 renamed Alcyon-1936 in Groningen at Gideon shipyard former name J.Koster Hzn.
Owned by Continental Cargoes Ltd.-Lancaster

tell
27th June 2006, 00:24
Thanks Ruud, that's the one I meant

john shaw
6th November 2006, 23:14
dutch clog 'Calyx' any info on this one please? Welsh owned I believe

could these also be the correct "Calyx"?

aadje
11th November 2006, 13:23
ms Trentonia and mv Burdonia regular visitors of the ports of Terneuzen /Sluiskil during my time when working for Ovet Terneuzen 9/1970-9/1974. Unfortutnately mv Burdonia got lost with lifes involved.
Nice to see the picture of Trentonia again.

aadje

Bearsie
12th November 2006, 22:39
Might as well give it a shot :)

I am looking for pictures of the Marika (de) ex Cornelia B (nl)
built: 1947, 499 gt, 750 tdw, yard: presumably Smit in Westerbroek
I have 2 pictures, one totally iced up on the coast of Holland,
the other a stern shot as Marika but with the masts and deckhouse already removed (mid 70's). We used to haul Tuborg beer to Goole, those were the days !

I had one that showed her as origianal but it got lost / destroyed ...

ruud
12th November 2006, 23:02
Ahoy,
Should be this one?

Bearsie
12th November 2006, 23:17
Amazing! Thanks Ruud !

I been looking all over for her, google will give me hundreds of ukrainian brides
when I enter Marika, and Cornelia B always gets me a bunch of american professors, just no ship. LOL

As You see her there thats the new bow and you notice the canvass covers on the hatches?
Amazingly the Cornelia B was built in 47(!) with steel covers that leaned up against the removed deckhouse.
I guess all these changes were part of "modernising"

ruud
13th November 2006, 07:23
Amazing! Thanks Ruud !

I been looking all over for her, google will give me hundreds of ukrainian brides
when I enter Marika, and Cornelia B always gets me a bunch of american professors, just no ship. LOL

As You see her there thats the new bow and you notice the canvass covers on the hatches?
Amazingly the Cornelia B was built in 47(!) with steel covers that leaned up against the removed deckhouse.
I guess all these changes were part of "modernising"

Ahoy,
As there was an old radiostation overhere in Holland, they had a programme demanding records called : "U vraagt, wij draaien", what means "You'll ask, we play them", so here you are.(Thumb)

tell
15th November 2006, 02:06
I'm very grateful for these pics thanks a lot Terry Butler

kepowee
15th November 2006, 12:37
hi rudd would you have aphoto of the tv morar denholms of glasgow ive tried to find one on lots sites its the only ship that i sailed on that i havent got a photo of ken powell

john shaw
15th November 2006, 13:01
ken

I answered this quest on a couple of your other listings-- perhaps you missed the replies? See:
http://www.clydesite.co.uk/clydebuilt/viewship.asp?id=18437

tell
24th January 2007, 16:27
that's the one john she had lots of cement boxes in the hold, I know I put a few there myself

lakercapt
25th January 2007, 15:26
Surely ther must be some vessels on the coastal trade round the U.K. as those small ships played a big part in keeping small ports viable.
I was especially thinking of LLandulas in north Wales where thousands of tonnes of limestone were shipped to Norway, Sweden and Belguim plus other parts of the u.K.
Does it still operate?
Robertsons ships carried all sorts of cargo in the early 60's so I assume someone else does it now.

Thamesphil
25th January 2007, 15:46
The U.K. coastal trades have changed considerably in the last 15 -20 years. Many small ports have closed and ships of under 1,000 tonnes dwt are now incredibly rare. Goods are now either unitised or, in the case of bulk cargoes, transported in 'coasters' of 3,000 - 7,000 dwt. Most of the traditional U.K. dry cargo coasting firms have either gone out of business, switched to other shipping sectors, or sold out to foreign companies.

robandbarbara
31st January 2007, 23:14
Have just remembered that the original Tryonia [460/51] on the Portsmouth -
Jersey run was renamed Trentonia 11 in 1965 when the new Trentonia [890/65] took over. Trentonia 11 was eventually sold and renamed Stella E.
The second Trentonia later became Trenton

alan willis
1st February 2007, 02:15
Whatever happened to the Trenton , I was on her when Alan Whiting bought her from Whartons.

robandbarbara
2nd February 2007, 00:02
Sorry, my notes on the Tryonia in Portsmouth should read 'Trentonia' (460/51) which became Trentonia 11 in 1965. Put it down to old age !!

sam2182sw
2nd February 2007, 10:41
Hi rudd if a man can rudd can can you help me with some ships i am looking for ARGO ATHENA. PEGGY. PAX 1. WAGRIAN. THANKS SAM

James MacDonald
2nd February 2007, 20:51
Ahoy Jim,
I do have quite some "Tramp's ", so not too sure which one, but found this Shetland Trader 1972, is this the one you're looking for?

Hi Rudd,
Thanks for the Pic but it was the Shetland Trader before this one probably
around 1975.Im Sure the ships bell read Tramp.
all the best,
Jim

alexmackinnon
2nd February 2007, 23:42
Surely ther must be some vessels on the coastal trade round the U.K. as those small ships played a big part in keeping small ports viable.
I was especially thinking of LLandulas in north Wales where thousands of tonnes of limestone were shipped to Norway, Sweden and Belguim plus other parts of the u.K.
Does it still operate?
Robertsons ships carried all sorts of cargo in the early 60's so I assume someone else does it now.


Llandulas, not much doing there. I sailed with Robertson's(mid seventies),on the Emerald. we were in Llandulas four times, loading up limestone for Norway and Sweden. the run after that was to Poland for coal, then onto Ireland. great run at that time(once you got over Llandulas).