Barry lay-ups 1977

rushie
12th April 2006, 09:31
Hi all,

I went to a slide show last night and one photo was of 4 BP tankers (out of a group of 6) laid up in Barry in 1977.

One was the Mallard, but the person who took the shot was unaware of the other 5. Any ideas.?...and when they arrived, and left....and their fate would be interesting to know.

Cheers,

Rushie

robandbarbara
12th April 2006, 18:23
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I have a record of B.Mallard + B.Robin + B Cormorant at Barry during July 1977.

R.D.

rushie
12th April 2006, 21:21
Many thanks. They all looked the same class of vessel...beauties it has to be said..!

Rushie

rushie
12th April 2006, 21:30
Hi Rob and Barbara,

Just had a look at my dad's discharge book and he signed on the British Mallard at Swansea on 23/09/66 and departed her at Hull on 23/01/67...so must have sailed on her in her prime days.

Must admit though, for my generation I think I'd go for this class of ship as one of the best looking types I've come across.....sure, others will have other thoughts though.!

Cheers,

Rushie

GeorgeM13
7th December 2006, 02:38
Hi,
Swing that lamp, I was there. I've checked my list of ships to see what it says and it came up with the British Cormorant. Unfortunately that is the only name it came up with and my memory is not what it was. We stayed on one ship and worked from there. I do remember tubes of sealant and rolls of tape, the nightmares will not leave me. Somebody made a lot of money out of BP. I also remember the Mate had an open top sports car MG I think, in which he took me to Cardiff Airport when I left. The only other thing I have is 1 photo of me on a flying bridge with the aft accommodation of 2 Birdy boats in the background.
Cheers
George

John_F
7th December 2006, 09:59
Rushie,
The fourth one may have been the Kiwi. There is a photo in the gallery by A.J.Hawker of her leaving Barry "after a long lay up" on her way to be converted to the Forties Kiwi.
Kind regards,
John.

GeorgeM13
7th December 2006, 19:53
Hi again
I should have said it was the summer of 1976 I was there for the lay-ups.

rushie
8th December 2006, 09:51
Thanks for your help gents.

Haven't forgotten that beer John F.!

Up to me eyes in it at the moment.

Rushie

mpkk
8th December 2006, 22:03
Hi Rushie,
I sailed on four of the Bird class, Trust, Kestrel, Kiwi and Forties Kiwi, the nicest ships I ever sailed on - not too clever in the Baltic during winter when you had to go aft for your meals! I believe that , after the Kiwi conversion, BP offered the other Birds in lay up for same but had no takers.
Regards, Jon

heglig john
20th December 2006, 01:39
no one has mentioned the British Gull..stood by her in govan for about 3 month while she was been built ..then sailed with her around the ausie coast for 10 month

ruud
5th January 2007, 17:50
Hi Rob and Barbara,

Just had a look at my dad's discharge book and he signed on the British Mallard at Swansea on 23/09/66 and departed her at Hull on 23/01/67...so must have sailed on her in her prime days.

Must admit though, for my generation I think I'd go for this class of ship as one of the best looking types I've come across.....sure, others will have other thoughts though.!

Cheers,

Rushie

Ahoy Rushie,
Here your Dad's MALLARD, haven't a clue where this was taken, but that jetty reminds me on one, but can't say.
Pembroke-Milford Haven?

rushie
6th January 2007, 21:05
Cheers Ruud,

You've done the business again..!

Rushie.

Brent Pyburn
6th January 2007, 23:45
I joined the Mallard in the winter of 1970. I had just got married and it was my wife's first trip to sea. I remember I got the telegram to join the Mallard in Immingham so we had to get the train to Hull and then the ferry across the Humber, there was no bridge then. We got off the train at Hull Station and it was pouring with rain and the platform was greasy. My wife fell over and scraped her knees and of course ruined her tights. We ended up at the ferry landing at nine in the evening and the waiting room had this old coal burning stove in the middle , so we huddled around that feeling utterly miserable. Once we got to the other side we had to stay at this pub/hotel and the landlady was great and we ended up in the bar with the locals and had a great evening. Everything went right from then on and we had a great 6 months on the Scandinavian coast.

junkcatcher
17th January 2007, 12:31
Finnart was also used for stand downs --- the Trident was tied up for 4 months at least 60% of the guys on her came from Glasgow or Paisley including the oldman (JP Wharrie) and the ce (Dave Malarkey) so it was almost a dead ship at night.

HENNEGANOL
20th January 2007, 20:17
One of the laid up "Bird Class" tankers may have been the British Swift, I paid off her in Swansea on the 30th March, 1976. She was at Swansea prior to sailing for Barry to be laid up.

GMCT

GeorgeM13
27th January 2007, 02:10
I have finally scanned this photo onto my computer. it shows two of the six bird boats that were being laid-up in the summer of 1976. After all this time I have no idea which ones they are, possibly one of them is the British Cormorant on which the lay-up crew were based though I have compared it to other photos in the gallery and there are differences.
The picture of beauty in the foreground is myself, the beard has long gone, the hair is a bit shorter, but not much, with a dashing touch of gray or that's what I tell myself.

Cheers George

barnsey
4th May 2007, 01:55
As in one of my other posts I discharged the gas Oil stored in British Venture into British Viscount whilst the Venture was in lay up in 1961. Having left the UK by the time the lovely "Birdy Boats" were in lay up and that this is the first I have known about a new "Lay up" session. There must be more photos of them all "tucked up in bed" together. There is no doubt in my mind they were the best ships in the fleet. A toss up as to whether the Mk I or Mk II were the best ..... depends whether you were up the Gulf I suppose as the MkII's had full A/C. Then whether you like the look of the Goal Posts fwd and their enclosed bulwarks around the aft accommodation on the Mk I's.

I sailed on "Swift" "Fulmar" "Trust""Kestrel" "Gannet" if I could have stayed on them "On the Coast" I would never have left BP Tankers.

Anyway I would appreciate some lay up pics of them in Barry please.

Barnsey

wtaylor
4th May 2007, 15:04
Nice to know that I am not the only one who loved the "birds". I did 15 months on British Robin but was eventually prised off by Britankol or I may still have been there. We even did a trip as private cruise ship for William Fraser, wife and three kids, as he did a tour of his European empire. They loved it just as much as the crew. Sorry to see so few photos of her in the gallery and I am looking into my old snaps for some to add. They just dont make em like that anymore.
Wilt

Fraserbetts
13th May 2007, 09:21
What about the Merlin. Took her in to Barry as C/O, Indian crew; C/E was Steve Taylor, good guy and we tried to re-build the cargo pumps which were falling to bits. Remember making a replica pump with (I think) the 3/E for Steve when he left. Met him later in Hanseatic Shipping sailing as Chief on the Lakemax ships, Maracaibo to USA. Previously sailed on her as 2/O with UK crew. Great ships, great people; I feel priveledged to have known both.

John Hunter
14th May 2007, 20:50
Another Birdie not mentioned is the Curlew............my 3rd ship as cadet. After 2 trips sailing round the cape this ship was a breath of fresh air. Carried lub oil to the med. loaded in about 6 euro ports and discharged in about 6 med ports.............long time to load and a long time to discharge greattttt My best 6 months at sea! Mate nearly had a heart attack when on one trip we found 6 inches of water in a tank of lub oil.............caused major problems. We of course blamed the shore people and they of course blamed us!!! It not only caused problems with that parcel but with the discharging also because of contamination!! Happy days. After that ship it was back to round the Cape as Uncert 3rd mate !!

ChiefCharles
14th May 2007, 22:46
John,
You have reminded me of one of my favorites. I sailed as Chief on the Curlew May 71 to October 71. It was between sailing on the Commodore and Centaur and was a different World to the "C" class. Very happy ship with a great group of Engineers and Mates. First Captain was "Potts" - cannot remember his first name but what a character! Cannot remeber the second Captains name but he was also very good. Second Engineer was Bill Ivison - one of the best I ever sailed with. I aso would like to see a picture of her. I get my "Birdie Boat" fix from attached photo of British Gull which was my last ship (lay-up Mother ship) before taking an office job. This photo was obatined from the Gull and I guess is a BP Produced photo.
Cheers - Roger

John_F
15th May 2007, 20:20
Barnsey,
Did you know A.E.Sainty who I believe took over the role of Master, at some time, on the Gull when she was mother ship in Brunei?
Kind regards,
John.

barnsey
18th May 2007, 11:12
John,

No I did not meet him but know the name .... so he must have been a charatcer ... one way or the other....

Remind me.

Barnsey

John Hunter
21st May 2007, 21:09
Roger, I have a good picture of the Curlew very similar to the on of the Gull. I will dig it out and post it. It is in the old BP colours

John

John_F
21st May 2007, 22:34
John,

No I did not meet him but know the name .... so he must have been a charatcer ... one way or the other....

Remind me.

Barnsey
Barnsey,
I only knew him when he was Mate. I joined the Gannet as Uncert 3/0 straight from the Queen where I had been senior apprentice for 3 weeks.
I remember sewing my single stripe on during the trip in the BP bus from Finnart, where the Queen was, to Grangemouth where the Gannet was. Tony Sainty was Mate on the Gannet, on which I did my first 3 weeks as 3/0, before she went for drydock in South Shields. We both got transferred to the Clyde Guardian. Tony gave me a great deal of confidence during my 8 months with him. I'd had very little sea-going watch keeping experience prior to joining the Queen, having almost always been the junior, or 2nd junior apprentice for 3 years. A more kindly man you couldn't wish to meet & he was well liked by all hands. I learned a great deal from him.
I've since learnt from this site that he was an expert ship handler. I've often wondered whether he ever married.
Kind regards,
John.

barnsey
23rd May 2007, 10:57
Hmmmm ... faint rememberance .... sounds a great bloke .... I too had a great mate to sail with first trip 3rd Mate ... one Robin Swanson ... Grangemouth lad .... wish I could get in touch with him....

Barnsey

paul0510
24th May 2007, 09:52
...time for me to join the 'birdie-bandwagon'. Here are the two that I sailed on, the Osprey and Fulmar. Tanker life at its best.

Bob Hofton
24th May 2007, 11:37
Hello
I was at Barry when BP started laying up their 'Bird' boats. I was C/E on the Br. Kiwi when we came in to lay up (She, being the 'shiniest' of this class was eventually extensively modified and became the first North Sea support vessel renamed the 'Forties Kiwi'. I worked on laying up these 'Birds' for a couple of months (Dehumidification, etc). This was the fore-runner to BP's big lay-up operations out in Bruni. Regards, Bob

Sheddy
24th May 2007, 16:48
I sailed on the British Merlin back in 1967, Captain was one F.A. Frost, known as Full Ahead Frost.
Spent six enjoyable months on the coast around the UK and Baltic. C/O was Phil Preston, 2/0 K Peacok and 3/0 K Gyles.

We often met the British Trust on our travels, why was she not named after a bird? I believe the crew once painted out the T when working over the side on stages so she sailed for a while as the British rust.

One of the berths we used to visit was HMS Warrior , the old iron clad hulk which is now being restored,

John_F
24th May 2007, 19:32
We often met the British Trust on our travels, why was she not named after a bird? I believe the crew once painted out the T when working over the side on stages so she sailed for a while as the British rust.


Sheddy,
The Trust (my last vessel as 3/0) was launched by Dame Patti Menzies, wife of the then Australian PM. There are 2 schools of thought as to why she was named Trust:
1. She was originally going to be called British Thrush. However, any female will be able to tell you about that particular affliction......
2. She was originally going to be called British Kiwi but as the sponsor was Australian it could have been considered an insult in naming the vessel after the national emblem of her Antipodean neighbours......
Whatever the reason, BP (which at that time was 55% owned by the government), decided on something totally inoffensive to anyone & called her British Trust. You pay your money, etc., etc.
I must agree with the other subscribers to this thread that the Birds were the most pleasant class of vessel you could wish to sail on. They were extremely well appointed & in most cases had interesting runs. Both the Trust & the Gannet - the 2 Birds that I experienced - were also happy ships.
Kind regards,
John.

barnsey
26th May 2007, 13:52
I'll fully endorse that comment yet again John, they were all great fun whether on the coast or deep sea ... I took the Gannet deep sea as Mate ...The Mk I's were my favourite I think as they had the wood Sycamore cabin panelling, always my favourite. The Mk II's had the "Melamine" type clinical panels but they did have full A/C ... not that you used it up the Balytic in winter !!!

Sigh ..... marvellous ships ... I could still go down the pumproom and set the valves .. no problem. Then pop out of my cabin and into the office and trim the ship with the Facit "windy windy" adding machine ....by the heck you could get a rate up on them ... the 3rd mate didnt think much to that racket... his door was exactly opposite the office door.

Fancy hijackingone of those that might be left up in China ... cleaning her out and entering trade agin with her ... anyone game???

Barnsey.

James_C
26th May 2007, 14:23
Sounds like a plan Barnsey! We should take some of the cargo lads over as well, see if they can find the Glenfalloch and bring her home. Wouldn't a Bird boat and a Glen sitting side by side be the perfect setting for a maritime museum?
We can but dream...

barnsey
27th May 2007, 09:57
OK Jim you are on ... except we need them to be somewherte warm ... Scotland does not have such a climate does it????

Barnsey ... just going out fer a stroll ... ducking in fact.

Cranky
18th June 2007, 10:16
It was the British Swift I believe, was bought by an Iranian soap manufacturer Sadeghi(sp) and renamed Noa 6. Left Barry Dec 77 for the Iranian coast.
Shifting gas oil and kerosene between Bhusher and Abadan.

trevflstn
23rd June 2007, 22:31
Barnsey,
Did you know A.E.Sainty who I believe took over the role of Master, at some time, on the Gull when she was mother ship in Brunei?
Kind regards,
John.

Tony Sainty was the Master on the Gull throughout most of its time as base ship in Brunei and I believe he had some input into the setup of the lay-up service. There was a rumour that he had been offered a job by the Sultan for when he retired.

wtaylor
26th June 2007, 16:10
OK Barnsey - Im in. Forget the wife and kids I will chip in the pension fund. Wilt

andysk
27th June 2007, 15:58
On 22 April 1977 Swift & Merlin were together, Cormorant was alone when I visited Barry on board Clan Graham. When I find the pics, I'll put them into the gallery. They are a bit dull 'cos it never stopped raining for the three days we were there discharging cashew shell oil - used in brake & clutch linings and a very unpleasant substance I believe.

Cheers

Andy

andysk
30th July 2007, 01:03
I finally found and scanned the slides, but the memory was playing tricks again !

The Merlin was on her own, the Swift & Cormorant were together; I've posted the pics in the gallery.

Cheers

Andy

Mick Spear
30th July 2007, 02:19
I remember looking at these ships, when my brother took me on board the Geest Land - tied up on other side of the dock. I was 13 at the time and i'm positive the Kestrel and Merlin were among these ships laid up, the Curlew seems to jog the memory also.

Mick S

Mick farmer
8th August 2007, 15:09
Rushie


there was an article in Ships Monthly December 2001

the British Curlew was in Barry at that time prior to going to China

as the Wenjiang, sailed march1976 ( Wrecked by gunfire Basra 1980) The Trust Fulmar and Gannett

also went the same way so perhaps they were the four.

Cheers

Mick

DAR
21st August 2007, 16:23
Barnsey,
Did you know A.E.Sainty who I believe took over the role of Master, at some time, on the Gull when she was mother ship in Brunei?
Kind regards,
John.

I was 3/Off on the Gull in 1975 from April to July. She went onto the laybys at Swansea mid June and A.E. Sainty joined relieving Captain Hill from Hull.
She was being outfitted for the trip to Labuan. I left her on July 3rd and transferred to the lay up gang in Barry Dock. Sainty had been working in the Office and this was his first ship for a considerable time.

DAR
21st August 2007, 16:31
Hi all,

I went to a slide show last night and one photo was of 4 BP tankers (out of a group of 6) laid up in Barry in 1977.

One was the Mallard, but the person who took the shot was unaware of the other 5. Any ideas.?...and when they arrived, and left....and their fate would be interesting to know.

Cheers,

Rushie


I was part of the layup gain in Barry in July 1975. The mother ship was the Kestrel which I had also sailed on as first trip 3/Off in 1974. We had a great time down there. Worked Monday to Friday sealing up with each weekend off. We all stayed in the Wateredge Hotel, very grand and complete with casino. I have fond memories of driving around South Wales on my car.

vectiscol
21st August 2007, 22:57
I was working in Barry in 1976 and recorded the following on 29th September: British Cormorant, Cygnet, Mallard, Merlin, Osprey, Robin and Swift.

barnsey
26th August 2007, 04:04
OK Vectiscol ... so lets be seeing your photos please ....all Birdy Boat photos are gratefully received for the collection ....

Barnsey

monty
15th September 2007, 09:50
Barry lay ups. This is a list of what I have. Swansea---Curlew. Tyne---Fulmar. Brunei---Gull. Barry---Robin, Kiwi, Kestral, Mallard, Trust, Gannet, Osprey, Cygnet, Merlin, Swift, Cormorant. Sailed on the Curlew as Electrician January to July 1961 Regards Peter Ross

chrisk
11th April 2009, 21:00
hi i laid up the mallard in barry from norrkoping joined 02/04 75-18/08/75 then went back to barry to the trust from14/10/75-10/12/75 loved these ships ,we lived onboard the mallard at the time i was an engineroom joer then soer whilst at barry
chris

JohnBP
12th April 2009, 14:18
Sailed on Br. Curlew as 4E, got some photos of her in drydock at Falmouth if anyone is interested. Was the Curlew not the 4th in the Barry crowd?

DAVELECKIE
12th April 2009, 21:41
I can remember some "wrong doings" during the lay up in Barry.
From memory I believe a 2/e and one or two others were caught "red handed" selling pump spares etc to a local scrap dealer.
They were immediately dismissed from the company.

Dave

chrisk
12th April 2009, 23:27
hi dave yes i remember that incident aswell must have been there together?? i was down below with about a dozen other jnr ratings helping to mothball etc
hard work but enjoyed it

DAVELECKIE
13th April 2009, 13:26
hi dave yes i remember that incident aswell must have been there together?? i was down below with about a dozen other jnr ratings helping to mothball etc
hard work but enjoyed it

I was not at Barry, I was "coasting" at the time and the bridge "telegraph" was hot at the time!
I believe head office had been "tipped" off and the superintendant etc were "lying in wait" and ambushed a scrap lorry at the dock gates loaded with phosphur bronze pump impellers etc etc!

Dave

JohnBP
14th April 2009, 14:31
Bob Hofton, I knew a Bob H on the british Freedom I believe, he was a Lecki at that time??? That U

Graham Wallace
16th April 2009, 06:29
Bob Hofton, I knew a Bob H on the british Freedom I believe, he was a Lecki at that time??? That U

John,
Bob Hofton was a Leckie in 1965 on Clyde Pioneer ( amongst others) went on to become a long serving BP C/E starting 1974. Naturally not an ex E/A
Graham

Col Robinson
7th June 2009, 22:44
For many years my Grandparents ran the Barry Dock Hotel aka The Chain Locker; and I have very happy memories of the place. I remember too looking out of the windows at the layed up Birdie Boats. Little was I to know that I would one day join BP myself. Does anyone out there remember the Barry Dock Hotel and have any recollections (good or bad), that they could share?

barnsey
9th June 2009, 11:02
JohnBP ... please post those drydock photos of the Curlew .... all Birdy boat pics are welcome ...

Col Robinson.... yup when we, the two apprentices were there discharging the Venture in January 1961 we were staying in the Barry Dock Hotel ...a room way up in the attic it seemed. As cold as hell with a shilling in the slot Gas fire !!! Cant remember the food as being much above that on a BP Tanker at the time .....a real bit of Victoriana and I think she was coming to stay the next week !!

Billieboy
9th June 2009, 12:15
For many years my Grandparents ran the Barry Dock Hotel aka The Chain Locker; and I have very happy memories of the place. I remember too looking out of the windows at the layed up Birdie Boats. Little was I to know that I would one day join BP myself. Does anyone out there remember the Barry Dock Hotel and have any recollections (good or bad), that they could share?

Hello Col, another Barrian here but from up the Colcot. I used to pass the Locker twice a day on the bus, to and from Barry Dock railway station when I was on Cardiff docks as an apprentice. Not a bad pub but not my local, too far away! Longest bar in the world, it was said, only drank there once, after signing on my first ship, m/v "Trelissick", in '62, we signed on at the shipping office, as we walked down to the corner, the locker was open and we managed a couple or three before chucking out time at 15.00. As a seaman's pub world renowned, just as The Mermaid's Tale, The Mount Stuart, Ship and Pilot, Northumberland Arms (The Jungle), or any bar in the Gut, from the 'Gypo Queen to The Lantern. Oops, I nearly forgot, The Madhouse! [=P]

Col Robinson
10th June 2009, 17:42
Thanks Barnsey & Billieboy for your memories. I myself am not a Barrian though; it's just that my Grandparents moved there from Warrington taking my 2 young uncles with them in the late 50's or early 60's. Their move though not only influenced my choice of 1st career but also that of my uncles who went on to join Geest. You'll be pleased to hear that upon their retirement in 1978, the rooms were still bitterly cold and you still had to pay a shilling for the gas fire, there were still gas mantles in the corridors and Victoria had still to arrive. The Brains IPA though was still as good as ever. [=P]

barnsey
11th June 2009, 10:42
Thanks for that Col ..... I remember the shilling in the gas fire so well ... as we got the owners to put them on the bill ... we were only poor Nav. Apps. and certainly couldnt feed that beast at the rate it asked!! I recollect we also conned an extra couple of eiderdowns ....I have found a photo of it in the state it was in in 1961 too ... all treasured memories.

tsell
14th June 2009, 04:49
For many years my Grandparents ran the Barry Dock Hotel aka The Chain Locker; and I have very happy memories of the place. I remember too looking out of the windows at the layed up Birdie Boats. Little was I to know that I would one day join BP myself. Does anyone out there remember the Barry Dock Hotel and have any recollections (good or bad), that they could share?

Hi Col

Well remember the Chain Locker, had many a drink there. Seem to recall it was on Windsor Road, but not quite sure.
Used to swim at Cold Knap too. As a kid spent lots of time at Barry Island.
Incidentally, The Australian Deputy Prime Minister, Julia Gillard, was born in Queen Street, Barry and came to Oz with her parents John and Moira (nee MacKenzie) in 1966. John was a former policeman according to her biography.
Maybe somebody remembers the family.

Cheers

Taff

Gavin Brown
5th November 2009, 01:42
British Kestrel was there - I was cadet in 75 when the lay ups started.

Gavin

red devil
18th November 2009, 17:53
I was 3/0 on the Gull in late 1972 into 73 on the Aussie/NZ coast for 5 months and had a great time. Highlight of the trip was a voyage from Auckland through the great barrier reef to Singapore's Keppel shipyard were we moved to a hotel for two weeks! She was a lovely ship and even now after 35 years still remember many happy times on her.

JohnBP
19th November 2009, 07:44
Hello
I was at Barry when BP started laying up their 'Bird' boats. I was C/E on the Br. Kiwi when we came in to lay up (She, being the 'shiniest' of this class was eventually extensively modified and became the first North Sea support vessel renamed the 'Forties Kiwi'. I worked on laying up these 'Birds' for a couple of months (Dehumidification, etc). This was the fore-runner to BP's big lay-up operations out in Bruni. Regards, Bob

Bob, were you a Lecki with BP before going the engineer route? I sailed with a Bob H but I cant remember which ship.

John Potts

Cranky
13th February 2011, 05:15
Click on the URL to see this 'Birdie' in 2005.


http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0472113/

Can't edit title, Should read Noah VI

James_C
13th February 2011, 08:25
I think it was deduced that this surviving Birdie was the 'Swift'. Incredible to think she's lasted so long!

derekhore
13th February 2011, 10:17
There are some more pictures here:

http://www.firouzanfilms.com/TheFirouzanFifty/Movies/IronIsland/index.html

....and a video clip here:

http://www.spike.com/video/iron-island/2718820

....or here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yoTgy3gDgI

Cranky
13th February 2011, 12:02
Definitely the British Swift.
I was mate on her after she was taken over by Noah Shipping.

Alby J
9th November 2012, 20:48
I was on the British Robin when she went to Barry Island to lay-up in April 1975. I remember that as she came alongside one of the people who caught the mooring lines was the Captain of another Birdie boat which was already there. This caused great amusement. He was almost the first up the gangplank to welcome us. I think he was grateful for some company. I was only in Barry for a couple of days before I paid off but I do remember we were berthed next to a huge scrap yard owned by a bloke who made millions from buying all the old British Rail locomotives and rolling stock when BR electrified and when they didn't finish the electrification in time he leased the old stuff back to them at exorbitant rates. He would turn up at the scrapyard of a morning in an electric blue Rolls Royce. I enjoyed the Robin with Indian crew and a number of supernumeries. At one stage the mate told me we were pushing our limit as we had 78 on the manifest. I don't know when the Robin left Barry but I did find out that she was sold to a French outfit and renamed the"Lot". As for the Kiwi, she was converted to an offshore vessel and by coincidence fitted with azimuthing thrusters by a company called Schottel that I later worked for.

A.D.FROST
9th November 2012, 21:21
BP tankers weren't the only ships laid up at the same time,several Blue Star Boats were their ,I know because I was on one and got the BARRY Is. 'T' shirt to prove it!(Pint)
ALMEDA STAR,Br.OSPREY,CYGNET and CURLEW July 1977

31471

mikeharrison
9th November 2012, 21:22
I was on the Robin too and well remember the scrapyard with the old steam railway engines in it. I brought my little sailing dinghy down to the Docks and happily sailed it around when not working, until told by a Dock Policeman that it was a "illegal vessel" and was strictly not allowed on the Docks! <smile>

The Bird Boats were indeed nice ships and the Forties Kiwi was very comfortable in the North Sea on her Schottels in any weather, with the Doxford run once a week. I found her a bit of a eye-opener , particularly in the catering line, with a soft ice cream machine in the saloon and cream cakes from the chief cook for tabnabs - very tasty! <smile>

Regards, Mike

James_C
9th November 2012, 22:16
Gents,
The Welsh scrapyard owner who owned the Rolls Royce was a chap called Dai Woodham, a man venerated within the UK preserved railway movement, as if it wasn't for him, a huge number of preserved steam locos simply wouldn't exist today.
He bought over 200 steam locomotives from BR and sold almost all of them to preservationists, in many cases he was quite happy to accept payment by instalment, or indeed hold back certain engines from scrapping whilst a preservation group raised the scrap value.

His story is here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dai_Woodham
The famous scrapyard is here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woodham_Brothers

barnsey
10th November 2012, 02:40
Hey up lads ... the ship in 'Iron Island' was not the British Swift ... it was firmly identified as British Curlew elewhere on this esteemed site by our experts. Once sold by BP Tankers she was renamed 'Wenjiang'.

She was in the news a year or so ago having been 'nicked' and towed off to the Pakistan breakers where she was placed under arrest ... since broken up. I have a photo of her on the beach there.

derekhore
10th November 2012, 10:13
A great guy Dai Woodham must have been, with plenty of vision .. and I see one of the loco's he saved most weeks!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GWR_7800_Class_7827_Lydham_Manor

Alby J
10th November 2012, 19:56
I was on the Robin too and well remember the scrapyard with the old steam railway engines in it. I brought my little sailing dinghy down to the Docks and happily sailed it around when not working, until told by a Dock Policeman that it was a "illegal vessel" and was strictly not allowed on the Docks! <smile>

The Bird Boats were indeed nice ships and the Forties Kiwi was very comfortable in the North Sea on her Schottels in any weather, with the Doxford run once a week. I found her a bit of a eye-opener , particularly in the catering line, with a soft ice cream machine in the saloon and cream cakes from the chief cook for tabnabs - very tasty! <smile>

Regards, Mike

Hi Mike,

Please forgive me if I don't remember you, it was along time ago. I was a first trip J/E trying to work out my ar*e from my elbow and do remember some of the characters on the Robin. I think the Chief Steward was John Grist who was sailing with his wife a New Zealander coincidentally called Robyn. He was replaced by a steward who was clearly, what we now call, gay. We had an insurance salesman who turned up on the ship trying to flog life insurance and he asked this chap if he wanted insurance for his wife and when he said he wasn't married the salesman said "You might, one day" the Steward said he definitely wouldn't, we all laughed and the salesman looked baffled. The Mate was a chap called Wright and his wife sailed with us, she often joked that she "Married Mr. (W)Right" We also had a R/O who was Indian and his name was Parkhi with initials S.S. which made him S.S.Parkhi the Sparkie. We also had a 2/E called Jackie Oakes who had been ex. RN during the war. He always wore a steaming cap in the engine room and he introduced me to the delights of 4 Bells Rum after getting me to fix heating coils in the tanks.

mikeharrison
10th November 2012, 20:36
Hi Mike,

Please forgive me if I don't remember you, it was along time ago. I was a first trip J/E trying to work out my ar*e from my elbow and do remember some of the characters on the Robin. ......
He always wore a steaming cap in the engine room and he introduced me to the delights of 4 Bells Rum after getting me to fix heating coils in the tanks.

Hi Alby,

No worries - it is indeed all quite some time ago. I found the local Clubs and Pubs and the nice people of Barry to be very friendly and really enjoyed the stay there.

I do agree about 4 Bells Rum - lovely stuff to have after tank cleaning for 16 hours and guaranteed to give you a good kip in your bunk. <smile>

Regards, Mike

retfordmackem
13th September 2013, 02:48
Bob, were you a Lecki with BP before going the engineer route? I sailed with a Bob H but I cant remember which ship.

John Potts
Yes he was. I sailed on the Patrol with him ,i was a lecky