Any Old Baron Boat Men Still Out There

Ray Morgan AB
16th May 2006, 21:39
Anyone on the baron minto march 1963 or baron belhaven september 1964 or woodford may 1962.

R58484956
17th May 2006, 13:43
Welcome Ray to the site enjoy it and all it has to offer, quite a few HH men on this site, now of course better fed.

shipmate17
17th May 2006, 15:04
Hi,
Bit of info.
BARON MINTO(111) 1959-1967.tonnage 7,801. 4 cyl.2 S.C.S.A. oil engine by William Doxford & Sons.Sunderland.completed 1959 by Sir James Laing & Sons Ltd.Sunderland.1967 sold to Astro Dichoso Cia.Nav.S.A.Greece.renamed DIRPHYS.
Baron Belhaven(111).1960-67.tonnage.8,337.4cyl.2 S.C.S.A.oil engine by Hawthorn Leslie Ltd.Newcastle.completed 1960 by John Readhead & Sons Ltd.South Sjields.1967 sold to Evie Navigation Co Ltd.Liberia. renamed GLOBAL TRADER.1972 transferred to Greek registry.
cheers.
shipmate17

jim mair
18th May 2006, 06:29
Served my time with H. Hogarths from 1962/ 1966. Baron Pentland, Wemyss, Maclay.Captains Pearson,Cain,Graham.Then as 3/o with Capt Paddy Minards , Tommie Mcleod, Reg Baker.Last Baron Boat was the Forbs .Some great times , a few bad.

tercar
19th May 2006, 19:47
Baron Ramsey 1952. Immingham to West Coast Africa. No fridges just an icebox on the boat deck. Learnt to play chess by carving pieces out of a broom handle, taught by a great character out of Hull called Nicky Telford.

notnila
18th November 2006, 00:44
"Baron Pentland , 61/62 Captain Cain, 2/o was his nephew C/E Alan McLean from Greenock. Good trip ,Dock St Pool crew, I would do it all again tomorrow given the chance.

Barry Wood
8th May 2007, 01:40
Baron Garioch
which I served on for the best eight months of my life I was wondering if anyone had any pictures of her
Barry Wood
Also are there any pictures of the Sheaf Wear out there or as anyone got of both these ships to fill my collection of the ships I servered on while in the Merchant Navy

heathenscot
15th July 2009, 18:04
Served nine months on the Baron Wemyss, from Mar-67 till dec-67, any EDH's or AB's on her then? Stan Greening R767602 ex Vindi Boy Jan/62 till Mar/62

harrisajm
14th August 2009, 00:10
Anyone on the baron minto march 1963 or baron belhaven september 1964 or woodford may 1962.

Hi Ray, I am doing some family history and my Dad was Captain of the Baron Minto around this time (Capt.George Harris). He sadly died suddenly on leave in April 1964. Was he the skipper when you sailed ?
Thanks
Alastair

K urgess
14th August 2009, 11:16
A belated welcome aboard, Alastair.
I'm afraid Ray Morgan hasn't signed on since 2007 so you may not get a reply.
A similair post in the shipping companies forum may get a better response.
Find your way around our ship and have a good voyage.

Davie M
21st February 2010, 19:39
Served as apprentice on:
Baron Maclay Sept 1956-May 1957 Capt.W.Warden Ch/Off J.Morrison
Baron Herries June 1957-April 1959 Capt J.Wylie Ch/Off E.Griffiths
Capt G.Harris Ch/Off G.Hunter
Baron Glenconner May 1959-Sept 1960 Capt CW Knoakes Ch/Off I.Mackay
Capt R.Gunn Ch/Off G.Hunter
Capt T.Pearson Ch/Off G.Hunter
I don't regret a single minute of my time with Hogarths it set me up for life be it in a totally different profession.
Would do it all again.

Thats another Story
21st February 2010, 20:14
one of my brothers sailed on the baron hinchcape?

caswell
24th February 2010, 20:27
Served as apprentice on:
Baron Maclay Sept 1956-May 1957 Capt.W.Warden Ch/Off J.Morrison
Baron Herries June 1957-April 1959 Capt J.Wylie Ch/Off E.Griffiths
Capt G.Harris Ch/Off G.Hunter
Baron Glenconner May 1959-Sept 1960 Capt CW Knoakes Ch/Off I.Mackay
Capt R.Gunn Ch/Off G.Hunter
Capt T.Pearson Ch/Off G.Hunter
I don't regret a single minute of my time with Hogarths it set me up for life be it in a totally different profession.
Would do it all again.

I served my time in Hogarths Baron Herries and Baron GEddes 1952/6

Ernieab
25th February 2010, 12:05
I saild with Scottish Ship Management in the 70,s & 80,s served on the Baron Renfrew, Napier, Maclay,and Kinnaird as well as a few of the Cape boats, many good memories,wish they were still running. If anyone is looking for imformotion on Baron Boats the Scottish Ship Management sight is a good starting place
Good luck.
Ernie Lindsay

RAYMOND SHAND
15th March 2010, 08:54
Did My First Trip To Sea To Sea On Cape Rodney In Jan 1970 Join In Anwerp
Bound For States To Load Coal Ended Up In St John Newfoundland With
Engine Trouble Then To States For Loading Bound For Peru For Fishmeal
For Germany Then Home

TonyAllen
15th March 2010, 17:42
I saild with Scottish Ship Management in the 70,s & 80,s served on the Baron Renfrew, Napier, Maclay,and Kinnaird

Ernie Just a note to let you know I worked by on the baron renfrew at Canada dock Liverpool 1960 Myself a chief steward a mate and an engineer she was riddled with steam flies and roaches and we had to strip her clean before she was fumigated.The thing was I did want to sail on her but was given a blue star boat instead Regards Tony Allen

Ernieab
22nd March 2010, 00:22
Hi Tony I was on the Renfrew in '77' I'm afraid the fumigation done no good, I remember going into the bar one night and swiched on the ghetto blaster only to see a roach running accross the radio dial (inside),it must have been a favourit haunt as they were also present inside the sterio on the Maclay.
Ernie.

TonyAllen
22nd March 2010, 12:57
Ern I think them buggers liked the tingle they got when it was switched on Tony

Alex Nicolson
12th April 2010, 22:50
Baron Elphinstone 1952/53. R/O. Rough one, Lascar crew including the Chf Stwd. A Captain Campbell from Islay. Outside of the Mate the rest were all in the 60's. 2nd Eng was actually 70. Story I was given was that they had accepted shares in lieu of wages at some point. No idea as to the truth of that.
I have a picture somewhere of the Officers in Fremantle Xmas 52 - I went ashore to eat later...
Good times though, much of it spent between Port Louis and Laurenco Marques. Sugar out, scrawny cattle back. No tourist glitz then. I loved Port Louis...wicked grin.

Alex

philipbalfe
14th April 2010, 15:04
Was on the baron aardrossan 65 to 66 as first trip deck boy peggy,was the worst ship i was on brok dowo most day ,all most run out of water but we went arond the would west to east,not bard for first trip,then went on to port line and food

alan ward
21st October 2011, 13:50
Anyone ever meet a Captain Henry Kitchen(Nabs)?

Mick Spear
21st October 2011, 15:54
I remember an old QM with RFA in the early 90s named Tommy Legg from Glasgow. He did many trips on the Baron boats that would have been late 50s and into the 60s. Had some great stories to tell about his time with them. Does the name ring a bell Ray?
Mick

Jocko
9th November 2011, 11:22
My first trip was on the Baron Kinnairds maiden voyage Nov 1958. I was junior engineer. I remember that as she hit deep sea on the way to the Panama Canal all the steam pipes were leaking due to the motion of the ship. Then we drifted for 8 hours in the Carribean with a fractured oil pipe in the main engine. Next trip was on the SS Baron Inverclyde and two trips on the Baron Jedburgh the second trip being 18 months. The Kinnaird and Jedburgh were good ships with good Doxford engines. The nickname Hungry Hogarths must have derived from the 1930s as all three ships I sailed on were great feeders. If anyone got a bad feeder it was because the Chief Steward was scrimping not the Company. Those were good times with great mates that you never got working ashore, it`s living proof when you read the posts and people still hark back 50 years to their old mates.

angusard
18th December 2011, 11:53
I was on Baron Belhavon from 1962 to 1963, any good

Chris Troup

Uricanejack
1st June 2013, 12:46
My father in law sailed with the Barron line back in 47.
he is still around doesn't do computers though

Alan Rawlinson
1st June 2013, 13:27
Baron Elphinstone 1952/53. R/O. Rough one, Lascar crew including the Chf Stwd. A Captain Campbell from Islay. Outside of the Mate the rest were all in the 60's. 2nd Eng was actually 70. Story I was given was that they had accepted shares in lieu of wages at some point. No idea as to the truth of that.
I have a picture somewhere of the Officers in Fremantle Xmas 52 - I went ashore to eat later...
Good times though, much of it spent between Port Louis and Laurenco Marques. Sugar out, scrawny cattle back. No tourist glitz then. I loved Port Louis...wicked grin.

Alex

Hi Alex from an old Bank Line man...

Just a long shot, but around 50/51 a school chum called Alex Loveday left to join Hogarths, when I went into the Bank Line.. Just wondered if the name rings a bell at all? ( I later heard on the grapevine that he had jumped ship in Australia, but can't vouch for the truth in the story).

Cheers/ Alan Rawlinson

KenLin39
21st June 2013, 15:48
I was on Baron Belhaven from 1962 to 1963, any good

Chris Troup

Hi Chris. I paid off the Baron Belhaven at the riverside repair berth at Tilbury on 9-Feb-1962 after a 10 and a half month trip. couldn't have worked out better for me as I lived at Grays then. Ken.

alan ward
21st June 2013, 18:42
anyone meet Henry Kitchen in Hogarths?

aramoana
29th June 2013, 14:25
Anyone on the baron minto march 1963 or baron belhaven september 1964 or woodford may 1962.

I was 2nd mate on the Minto after serving my time with HH but earlier. I was on it's maiden trip with Capt. William Warden of Tyree. We did a year or more going to the USA, OZ and Japan with sugar and came home from Cairns with sugar and I left to get married and joined the UBC United Baltic Corp'n then left them and went to NZ and waa chief officer on the Aramoana etc etc(EEK)
after getting masters in Wellington. I left the MN in 1966 before it all fell apart and while we still had one..............David Mills

Davie M
10th July 2013, 17:56
As a first trip apprentice (1956) sailed with William Warden who was master on the old Baron Maclay.
Davie

david john banks
27th October 2013, 14:36
Baron Garioch
which I served on for the best eight months of my life I was wondering if anyone had any pictures of her
Barry Wood
Also are there any pictures of the Sheaf Wear out there or as anyone got of both these ships to fill my collection of the ships I servered on while in the Merchant Navy
hi barry wood i think t was on the daron garioch the same time

Robin Craythorn
27th October 2013, 15:02
I sailed with Hogarth's 1958 - 1964 Apprentice to Second Mate.
Baron Geddes Apr 1958 (ship just converted to oil burning) to July 59 Master's T. Scott J. D. Minnards
Baron Herries Sept 59 - Sept 1960 Master's T. Scott & Turnbull
Baron Kinnaird Oct 60 - Dec 61 Masters J. Minnards L.G. Robb
Baron Glenconner 3/O May - Sept 62 Master J. Minnards
Baron Jedburgh Oct 62 - Dec 63 Master J.R.L. Cain
Baron Kinnaird 2/O May 64 - Feb 65 Master Mackay
All good experience

SparksBryan
4th February 2014, 20:36
did one trip on the Baron Renfrew as R.O.in 1958 0r 1959. Burntisland to Takoradi. The food was shocking but the trip was good.

TonyAllen
6th February 2014, 00:23
i worked by on the baron renfrew in liverpool may 1960 and she was in a shocking state,no food aboard about 1/2 pound of tea only 3 of us aboard mate deck hand and myself ass cook .stayed 2 days and then she was fumigated

caswell
16th June 2014, 21:03
I sailed with Hogarth's 1958 - 1964 Apprentice to Second Mate.
Baron Geddes Apr 1958 (ship just converted to oil burning) to July 59 Master's T. Scott J. D. Minnards
Baron Herries Sept 59 - Sept 1960 Master's T. Scott & Turnbull
Baron Kinnaird Oct 60 - Dec 61 Masters J. Minnards L.G. Robb
Baron Glenconner 3/O May - Sept 62 Master J. Minnards
Baron Jedburgh Oct 62 -ec ROGER.63 Master J.R.L. Cain
Baron Kinnaird 2/O May 64 - Feb 65 Master Mackay
All good experience
Hi I SERVIED ALL MY TIME ON THE BH AND BG 1952/6 AND KING WILSON DID MAY BE AT THE SAME TIME AS YOU ROGER JONES SWANSEA YOU CAN CONTACT ME HERE AS CASWELL

Ron Stringer
16th June 2014, 21:48
...well it would have been a waste of time asking for young ones! (Jester)

calgarycurrie
20th September 2014, 00:50
My father - David Currie was an apprentice and third mate on the Baron Pentland, Ardrossan, McKlay, Glencairn, kinnaird and Inchcape from 1960 - 1966. Says he sailed with Captains Cain and Downie. Any shipmates out there?

DURANGO
28th September 2014, 14:53
Served as apprentice on:
Baron Maclay Sept 1956-May 1957 Capt.W.Warden Ch/Off J.Morrison
Baron Herries June 1957-April 1959 Capt J.Wylie Ch/Off E.Griffiths
Capt G.Harris Ch/Off G.Hunter
Baron Glenconner May 1959-Sept 1960 Capt CW Knoakes Ch/Off I.Mackay
Capt R.Gunn Ch/Off G.Hunter
Capt T.Pearson Ch/Off G.Hunter
I don't regret a single minute of my time with Hogarths it set me up for life be it in a totally different profession.
Would do it all again.
Hello Davie was that close on to a 2 year voyage when you where in the Baron Herries best regards Dave .

Robin Craythorn
28th September 2014, 15:16
Hi I sailed with Hogarth's Baron Line 1958 - 1965,
1958 - 59 Baron Geddes (Apprentice) Master Captain T. Scott Mate Gordon
1959 - 60 Baron Herries (Apprentice) " " " /Turnbull
1960 (September) Baron Ardrossan (run job Birkenhead - Glasgow - Lisbon)
1960 - 61 Baron Kinnaird (Apprntice) Capt,s Minnards/Robb Mate Hunter
1962 Baron Glenconner (3/O) Captain Minnards
1962 - 63 Baron Jedburgh (3/O) Capt Cain Mate Bryson
1964 - 65 Baron Kinnaird (2/O) Capt McLean

Davie M
29th September 2014, 19:22
Hello Davie was that close on to a 2 year voyage when you where in the Baron Herries best regards Dave .

Hi Dave, Its actually made up of 3 consecutive trips from the UK on the Herries.
The first of 6mths.
The second 3mths.
The remaining was from April '58 to April '59.
All Best
Davie

DURANGO
29th September 2014, 20:02
Hello there Davie all the same the last trip was a bit of a jaunt ,having only sailed in one tramp myself which I was flown out to join at quite an expense to the company I only lasted 3 months then I paid off sick , but for the short time I was in her I quite liked the not knowing for sure what our next port was going to be , some of those tramps I know got stuck on some lousy runs for months on end whereas others really cracked it my one and only tramp spent quite some time out east best regards Dave .

Davie M
29th September 2014, 22:55
Hello there Davie all the same the last trip was a bit of a jaunt ,having only sailed in one tramp myself which I was flown out to join at quite an expense to the company I only lasted 3 months then I paid off sick , but for the short time I was in her I quite liked the not knowing for sure what our next port was going to be , some of those tramps I know got stuck on some lousy runs for months on end whereas others really cracked it my one and only tramp spent quite some time out east best regards Dave .

Hi Dave, Yes the 12mth trip took us tramping round the world. We had a great crowd and I still have happy memories of that trip. If you are interested you can read where we got to on page 2 in the Tramp Steamer section.
All Best
Davie