New Cook Strait Ferry

exsailor
22nd June 2006, 12:56
With little publicity, Strait Shipping Ltd., (Bluebridge) new ferry arrived in Wellington last week. The 11,630 GRT 'Monte Stello' has been purchased as a running mate to the existing 'Santa Regina' and 'Kent'. Built 1979 in France as 'Monte Stello', rebuilt 1992, sold to Lithuanian Shipping 1996, renamed 'Palanga' and served under various charters until her sale to Strait. With a total of 126 lane metres, (150 cars) and 370 passenger capacity, she is due to enter service in the next week or so, initially as a freight-only ferry for a period of familiarisation. No mention of her yet on the Bluebridge website, but full details and photos of her new look on www.ferry-site.dk/ferry-php?id=7807093&lang=en

NZSCOTTY
3rd July 2006, 10:10
Yes the Monte Stello is at Wellington. She has had various problems with engines and will not be on the run for a good few weeks yet. (Cloud)

John Cassels
3rd July 2006, 20:32
Looks like they were wise to opt for "little publicity" eh John !.

JC

daveyjones
4th July 2006, 04:48
Another old 'banger' plying the Cook Strait. The Strait Line's 'new' ferry just adds to the fleet of antique barges they have purchased over the years, transporting passengers and cargoes between the North and South Islands. Toll's InterIsland Line is saddled with with an Iberian wreck called the Aratere which has a mind of it's own. The 'Purbeck' a relic from some shipyard in Europe they purchased for a cargo vessel. The only descent performing vessels plying the Strait today is the Rail freight/passenger ferry Arahura...and she is 23yrs old and due to be replaced by 2009. The Stena Challenger (Kaitaiki) which carries no rail.

Kaiser Bill
4th July 2006, 05:09
The only Cook Strait Ferry I have fond memories of was Tamahine, she was on the run for 38 years and did we have some hairy trips during my 12 months.

John Cassels
4th July 2006, 09:18
Now now lads. Can't believe all cook strait ferries are that bad.

For example , look at Bluebridge's promotional video. Shows one
of their ferries. Very smart , good looking , well maintained.
As good as any I have seen anywhere.

JC

NZSCOTTY
4th July 2006, 09:32
Strait Shipping may buy old vessels (all they can afford) but they have been well looked after. The Santa Regina has been faithfully plying the strait over the past 3 years and the trusted old heap the Kent makes plenty money for the company. It is good to see a company trying to keep the rail ferries honest with a bit of competiton. So get of your armchairs, put out your pipes and put a way your scotch glasses, then give some credit to a private company giving a good service over the Strait. (Eats)

John Cassels
4th July 2006, 10:52
Strait Shipping may buy old vessels (all they can afford) but they have been well looked after. The Santa Regina has been faithfully plying the strait over the past 3 years and the trusted old heap the Kent makes plenty money for the company. It is good to see a company trying to keep the rail ferries honest with a bit of competiton. So get of your armchairs, put out your pipes and put a way your scotch glasses, then give some credit to a private company giving a good service over the Strait. (Eats)



Well said Sir, my sentiments exactly. (She looks really good
in that video). The ship I mean , not the girl in the armchair !.

JC

daveyjones
4th July 2006, 18:36
Thought I might get you lot going with my blurb on antique shipping across the Cook Strait. However vessels that old need a warrant of fitness after 25yrs service or a dispensation dont they...? However my observation of the NZ Maritime Safety Authority since its introduction in 1993, has been its subservience to big business. The Spanish Armada would have got a pass mark from that lot had it made a ghostly return. They gave 21 dispensations for the Aratere on its arrival in NZ and serves them right it is still giving them headaches. Im sure, should any of these old bangers cause loss of life the public will be pointing the finger at the MSA...
And Scotty hows my old shipmates Ronnie Colbrooke and John Reid going...I remember them as third mates on the Aramoana... or have they finished with engines.

Daveyjones

flyer682
5th July 2006, 07:09
Where does one find Strait Shipping's promotional video?
Apart from a shaky beginning and some industrial strife, this company has done very well when many others have come and gone.

John Cassels
5th July 2006, 09:00
Where does one find Strait Shipping's promotional video?
Apart from a shaky beginning and some industrial strife, this company has done very well when many others have come and gone.


I downloaded from bluebridge's website.
Ferry featured is the Santa Regina. Video dont last very long
but gives us guys on the other side an idea of the run.

JC

NZSCOTTY
5th July 2006, 09:50
Hey Daveyjones don't start me on Maritime NZ. They do not and I repeat not go on their knees to big business. (or small business). They are ruled by politics both internal and from their political masters. I could say a lot more but slander may come in.


By the way Davey the cook strait ships are under full survey from Lloyds or others and MNZ so they are up to standard. In fact it baffles me that the Monte Stello which was under full survey in Europe arrive here (just) with so many thing failing which should have been sorted out by previous owners her previous survey is a joke. Again I could say more but not in an open forum.

Yes your two old mates are still sailing as third mates relieving each other.

nzmatt
5th July 2006, 10:16
man some ppls attutide :@

daveyjones
5th July 2006, 18:40
Scotty, Im not surprised the Monte Stello has to be be re-engined before it comes into service. That's what happens when you go round the shipping junkyards of Europe buying up old 'bangers,' and I agree with your sentiments that all these issues should have been dealt with before she venture downunder. Unfortunately the same can be said about new vessels such as the Aratere. She had just left Vigo, and broke down... Does Strait Line have any vessel under twenty years old?
Your sentiments on the NZ MSA are your perogative. My opinion about them was a common theme among NZSU members. Many times we were to say..'We told you so...' The Aratere was an example on its arrival...and the release gear on a rescue boat that eventually killed a young cadet to name just a few issues. I stand by my opinion.

Davey Jones

raybnz
5th July 2006, 22:01
I would go along with Kaiser Bill and put my money on the Tamahine. A solid ship with a permanent list and never seemed to miss a trip.

I had the chance to met the owner of the Straits Shipping a year or so ago on his island retreat Pakatoa in the Hauraki Gulf. We were visiting on the W C Daldy and he came on board to have a look around.

By the way his island is up for sale at a price of $34million(NZ)

daveyjones
5th July 2006, 23:41
Ray...Dont tell me the owner of Strait Line was looking for another vessel to add to the collection of antique hulls he has running across the Cook Strait, when he strode aboard the WC Daldy for a look around? Or am I being facetious?

Davey Jones

NZSCOTTY
6th July 2006, 04:00
Well Davey you really have something against Strait Shipping. Or is it the fact that they have actually managed to be succesful in cook strait even taking into account their present hicups. They have even started paying people to work for them. Now is that not something.

raybnz
6th July 2006, 08:52
I dont think he could have afforded signing the four of us engineers on. Old as we may be our skills and experiences are priceless.

Ray...Dont tell me the owner of Strait Line was looking for another vessel to add to the collection of antique hulls he has running across the Cook Strait, when he strode aboard the WC Daldy for a look around? Or am I being facetious?

Davey Jones

daveyjones
6th July 2006, 19:13
All in good jest Scotty. I am pleased to hear that they are paying for the services of professional sea personel, which prompts a thought. We have become a rarity in NZ today because those who live in Pakatoa Island and others who took $3mill handshakes suggest their own bank balances were more important than focussing on training young seafarers to man their vessels for the future. They could have woken up the dead ****s in the 'gas house' reminding them we are an island nation with the longest routes in the world to our markets, and recognise the Shipping Industry is an important cog in the nations welfare, and training young Officers and Seafarers is a must. We cannot rely on foreign hulls or seamen to service us.
So dont be surprise Ray if you should get a call from Pakatoa Island imploring you and your old Engineer mates to man one of his vessels. InterIsland Line have called me up 3 times asking if I would like to do a spot of relieving because they are short of IR's on deck. My answer was 'What part of Im Retired dont you understand?' Read it all in my book 'Oceans Of Time' which goes to the printers in a weeks time and in NZ book shops mid August.

Davey Jones

NZSCOTTY
7th July 2006, 00:29
Finally we are talking the same language Davey. We try to train some deck boys and bridge trainees but they can only learn so much on cook strait. Finding something overseas is difficult although the Auckland Nautical school is doing its best in getting postings.
Look forward to your book. Hope it is not too one eyed!!!!

Bob cheeseman
7th July 2006, 01:17
Hi Dave
I dont think you will ever retire from those ferries fully,you would have to move away from the place so you could not see them,other than that i still see you can wind the crowd up . p.s still running the soccer pools
stay lucky Bob .c

daveyjones
7th July 2006, 21:06
Hi Scotty...Training cost money and eats into profit... one reason why InterIsand Line wants to phase out the IR system. It cost them $13,000 per man for a 10 week course. The Arahura is an IR vessel and because they have not trained any IR's for years and those left are in their 50's and 60's. The IR system was just a demanning exercise for companies but came back to bite them on the bum when the cost of training was realised.
My book is certainly not onesided. It a 300 page autobiography from the cradle to retiremement. I hope the crowd find it hilarious and certainly non PC! It's not about you and us, tho there were a few Captain Blighs out of the UK. The 50's and 60's were a golden age when ships had derricks and we kids could spend days in port. I point the finger at todays dopey management who think a ship can be run the same as a shoreside factory, where skippers have become 'managers' and flooded with paperwork. Shoreside office wallers or 5 minute 'seamen' telling professional sailors how to run a vessel...

Hi Bobby...nice to hear from you again. Stirring the **** was a good messroom pastime and as you see I still retain the knack! There's no way could I ever go back on ferries or to sea. I've had my innings and got out at the right time and so did you. Going to sea aint the same. Cheers Dave

Kaiser Bill
8th July 2006, 04:15
I gave it all away in 1965, when I met my serious "long haired playmate" as you do, so what is this IR business ? it's an interesting thread, by the way.

dom
8th July 2006, 08:46
interageted ratings, deck and en,room do both jobs,cut down on crew no.s
strange that color blind greasers can stand watchs,yet when i was a deck boy no deckie could be seen wearing glass's

dom
8th July 2006, 08:50
can remember in southhampton doing an eyesight test ,a little book, pages all coverd in coloured dots,what no. is that,think it was standard then.dom

NZSCOTTY
9th July 2006, 09:43
Ok Davey I will look forward to your book. Talking about forwards I can write one for you. So send me a draft!!!

daveyjones
9th July 2006, 23:05
Thanks for your offer Scotty to write a Foreward but was written a few months ago by a good shipmate and author in his own right.

Davey

Ngaio 62
10th July 2006, 00:06
I look forward to seeing that!
Rugby books are a dime a dozen, ghost written and clutter up our bookshops.
More maritime literature please.

P.S. can someone come up with ship design that actually catches the eye? most of this modern tonnage we have i wouldn't give a knob of goat p--p for as far as looks go and the new straitline ships are prime examples of what i mean.

Martin

NZSCOTTY
10th July 2006, 03:12
As Davey Jones said the "new" ferries are as old as the hills. So that is old design. French of course so mabe that explains it.

daveyjones
10th July 2006, 20:59
It will be interesting to see what Toll comes up with when they replace the Arahura in a couple of years time. There are no Rail freight carriers on sale in Europe I am told, so I assume they will have to look into building a purpose built freight/passenger in the near future.
The Arahura is the most sensibly designed ferry plying the Straits as far as I am concerned. She is roomy and innovations aboard this 1983 Danish built vessel made it a pleasure to work aboard. When the Yankee owners took over NZ Rail Ferries and decided to ignore the Naval ship designers in Southampton whom the NZ Gov. had contracted to designed all previous Cook Strait Ferries...then we get an Iberian wreck like the Aratere. But then the Spanish shipyards, starting with the Armada are not noted for expertise like the Brit or other European yards.

Cheers DaveyJones

raybnz
11th July 2006, 11:13
I wonder what Toll will do when it comes to replacing a ferry. Their present investment record with rail is dreadfully slow. There is a lack of motive power on the rail system.

So I think the goverment will be the next buyer but time will tell.

Ngaio 62
13th July 2006, 15:02
There is a lack of motive power on the rail system.


Tell me about it!

In Wellington we are using rolling stock that dates back to the second world war.
My Dutch flatmate came here in 63 and took the night train to Auckland with its wooden seats and gas lighting. he thought he had landed in the wild west.
The same body work is being used on the wellington-Masterton commuter run.
No wonder our roads are clogging with Bl---y cars!