Fruit boats!

Peter Eccleson
12th July 2006, 22:12
Hi,
Anyone know what happened to the fruit ships that Cunard bought in the 1970's - Saxonia, Samaria,Scythia etc?
Anyone got any photo's?

Thanks

(*))

treeve
12th July 2006, 22:20
If you click on the Search Forum box,
and type in Saxonia or Samaria etc ...
you will find a good number of other topics which include your ships.

Best Wishes
Raymond

Peter Eccleson
13th July 2006, 15:51
Thanks (*))

Peggy747
1st August 2006, 13:10
If you go to gallery "Peggy 747" you wil find a photo of some of those ships laid up in Birkenhead docks, un fortunatly I didnt note down their names but you may be able to identify them yourself--Picture taken in 1987.

Peter

danube4
16th October 2006, 23:44
Hi,
Anyone know what happened to the fruit ships that Cunard bought in the 1970's - Saxonia, Samaria,Scythia etc?
Anyone got any photo's?

Thanks

(*))


Peter, Go to Cunard Forum, Cunard pictures and more,
there are all the photo's of the ships you are looking for.
All the best,
Barney.

djbarker
15th March 2007, 17:31
Hi, I had a few trips on the good old Saxonia running out of LA Wilmington to Golfito and Guayaquill and back to Long Beach...ah those halcyon days!!! Old mans name was Jack Knight..........(Thumb)

saxonia
19th August 2007, 22:49
I sailed with the infamous yank too ... also out of Wilmington , he often took a short detour into a Californian Bay to show us his house !

I wonder if hes still alive ??

Mike Davies
Cardiff

roadster
10th October 2007, 14:50
Sailed on Saxonia my last trip 1979, Europe to Central America, with Capt Jack. She had a good turn of speed I remember. Did 3 trips and paid off in Tilbury.

dondoncarp
12th October 2007, 11:38
sailed on servia 85 i think it was...they were all layed up in birkenhead awaiting charter...got it off dover pool

DICK SLOAN
30th December 2007, 23:10
Hello Peter, Theres some pictures in my posts of the Saxonia' from when I sailed on her' also with Captain Knight and his two daughters.

Tony Breach
31st December 2007, 08:12
SAMARIA scrapped as CAPRICORN by Gupta Steel Alang & arrived 30.07.97

SAXONIA as CARINA seriously damaged in collision with MSC SAMIA off Holland 07.07.95. Towed to Zeebrugge & declared as CTL. 18.03.96 demolition commenced at Aliaga by Dortel Gemi Sokum Demir Celik.

SCYTHIA as CENTAURUS suffered a serious fire while discharging bananas at Wilmington DE on 08.02.89. Subsequently settled as a CTL & arrived Chittagong 16.07.89 where demolition started by Abdul Motaleb on 20.07.89.

SERVIA as KASTORA suffered a serious fire while on a voyage from Limon to New Orleans 26.04.89. 29.04.89 towed to Kingston, Jamaica & declared a CTL. Towed to Pakistan under the name MARWAN XI & demolition commenced by M.H. & Co., at Gadani Beach.

All ships were owned by the Kollakis group at the time of their demise.

Tony

Peter Eccleson
15th January 2008, 18:13
Thanks to all.....especially Tony for the info.
Quite an interesting end to most of them!

Peter

mattina
23rd February 2008, 22:44
Hi There Peter. Have just joined the site and been cruising thru the forums and came across yours. I was a steward on the M.V Servia and sailed on her 3 times the last time I joined her we spent 3 months anchored of the german coast I think and then we sailed to birkenhead and laid her up there. I paid off her on the 17-12-84.It's sad to here of the demise of a ship that one has sailed on but it does bring back all the good memories that we have. Regards Matthew Williams

Peter Eccleson
26th February 2008, 14:38
Matthew
Welcome to the site..... as so often quoted "its addictive".

kevin morgan
1st May 2008, 10:45
G'day all , i was on the Saxonia twice ,and the Samaria twice in the early 80's , i also did the 6 lay-ups in Birkenhead , i was known as Moggy back then. nice ships.

John Ringrose
30th May 2008, 15:38
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I have only just joined the site so very late to reply.

I was sent to the Orchidea when she was bought from MFC. We sailed them to Falmouth whilst still with their old names. There were three of them down in Falmouth in dry dock. Charlie Pratt was on the Iris Queen I can't remember the other one, think it was the Orange. I know we had the usual party whilst in Falmouth and the nurses and BT Operators turned up and we had to summon everyone from the other ships to make up the numbers.

romney01
16th June 2012, 12:20
I sailed on the Samaria in 82 I think. Chief was George Herron - loudest voice in the merchant navy but a great Guy. Derek bachelor was 4E, Rees Boldero 3E, reefer was "Huggers" lecky was geordie Jim. I loved that ship. Bremerhaven bar in Cortez, Golfito, And all those other Central American ports.

AT Smith
11th February 2014, 13:13
I was there! First trip to sea...from the names you mention we could have crossed:
I joined in Sheerness and we went up to Immingham for drydock. George Heron was Chief. Pete Smith took over and was there for most of my trip, George Heron rejoined towards the end.
Ian Wilson was 2/E, "Big Brian" was J2, sailing as 3rd, Dave "Boy" Green 4/E. 5/E was called Paul, an Aussie?
There were 5 engineer cadets to start but the others were senior. Myself and Andy Flint were the first trippers, we were known as "The Androids"...Yes, good times around the Central American ports.

Neil Mant
11th February 2014, 14:01
I sailed on the Andria,Servia,Samaria,Scythia and Saxonia all several times from 78 to 85 as a steward, then moved to the Atlantic Conveyor. first being the Servia in dec 1978 to dec 1979 went out to bluff for a month alonside and the Samaria was opposite us, we went to avonmouth and the Samaria went to Russia to discharge, In Bluff on the night the Samaria was leaving someone from the Servia painted in red F*** right next to the Cunard on the bridge housing and someone from the Samaria painted on ours FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE. any one on that trip

dannic
29th April 2014, 00:50
Was on Scythia as 2nd trip cadet in 1978, other engine cadet was known as wingnut, from Southampton as I recall, Chief was Bill from Devizes, 2nd Steve, youngest second in company, junior 2nd Derek Rice(?), 3rd Jimbo (Bates?) from Plymouth, RN dockyard guy, Oilspill Ray was fiver, Maltese lad who did not have much luck hence the name. Charter speed 28 knots come hell or high water, 25000 Bhp in a 10000 ton ship!
Dannic

Stephen J. Card
29th April 2014, 03:23
Just yesterday reading CUNARD LINE - A Fleet History by Peter Newall.

The SCYTHIA was quite a less than 25,000 bhp and speed less than 28 knots.

Newalls book lists SCYTHIA was 'just' than 23,000 and speed as 23.5 knots.

A couple of good photos as SCYTHIA in Salen Reefer Services livery and a photo of her in Cunard colours from 1980.

Good book... all of notes for each of the fruit ships and also photos... colour!

I spent 6 years in the Salen reefers on the Denholm ships LOCH LOMOND and LOCH MAREE. Saw the Cunard boats on frequently.

Were the Cunard ships fruit only or could they carry -21 C for meat boats as well?

No doubt it gonig to sea in reefers was one of the best jobs!

If you confirm that BHP/speed I will pass on to the author.

callpor
29th April 2014, 15:19
Stephen, Miramar index quotes 23.5 knots!

Stephen J. Card
29th April 2014, 16:44
Thanks.

Only 28 knot ship I sailed in was EUROLINER... but our record was beat by Sea Land GALLOWAY. They were coming in to Ambrose Pilot.... we heard the VHF call.... "AMBOSE PILOTS AMBROSE PILOTS THIS IS SEALAND GALLOWAY. WE ARE SLOWING DOWN TO THIRTY KNOTS." Their average was 35 knots. Only other ships to faster for EUROLINER class was QE2 and FRANCE.

Still, any ship doing 21 knots is still a respectable speed. And great when you are heading for home port!

stoker
29th April 2014, 19:06
Reminds me of Ben Lines slogan " fast to the Far east ", to which every wit on the ship would add..."not so fast coming back"

captainjohn
29th April 2014, 20:25
Re Sealand GALLOWAY, I was sailing Master with Sealand at the time and the joke was the SL-7's could pass anything but a fuel barge.

Stephen J. Card
30th April 2014, 14:00
Watchkeeping on the bridge perched right on the stem of the GALLOWAY at 35 knots would have given you a rush like Kate Winslet on the the TITANIC!

paulc
1st May 2014, 12:57
Were the Cunard ships fruit only or could they carry -21 C for meat boats as well?


Hi Stephen

In January 1980 I was deck cadet on Scythia and we loaded frozen fish bound for Japan. I can't remember the exact temperature the holds were at but it was certainly below -20 C.

Off topic but I spent quite some time admiring your work on the HAL ships. I often wondered if I could get one of them in my suitcase. :-)

Stephen J. Card
1st May 2014, 13:09
Hi Stephen

In January 1980 I was deck cadet on Scythia and we loaded frozen fish bound for Japan. I can't remember the exact temperature the holds were at but it was certainly below -20 C.

Off topic but I spent quite some time admiring your work on the HAL ships. I often wondered if I could get one of them in my suitcase. :-)

Paul,

Thanks. Then 'fruit boat' or 'banana boat' is incorrect! Sycthia was a REEFER! ;-)

So... welcome to Ships Nostalgia... I see your first post. I'm sure the moderators will give you a welcome.

What is your connection with HAL? Pax or crew? Cunard or did you move on?

Those paintings.... 36 x 60 inches. Can't fold them down... the canvas is glued down onto a aluminium panel.... and with that extra frame is an extra 8" all round..... and weighs a ton!

Stephen

dannic
9th May 2014, 23:49
ref SJ Card, my error in both bhp and GRT, have checked discharge book and tonnage was 12000, bhp 22000. However 22000 bhp in a small ship, a nine cylinder 840 bore engine was pretty awesome! 28 knots am sure of as I pulled the job back a couple of revs one morning watch due to high scavenge temperatures, as I thought, only to be told off by second - we had to maintain charter speed. Never ran at such high revs either before or after.
No doubt we were running at more than 90% mcr.
Dannic

spiv
23rd July 2014, 13:12
I sailed on the Saxonia from July to December 1977 as an engineer cadet. Joined in Germany and paid off in Germany on 23rd December, having travelled to north south and central America. They always say that your first trip is your best. Well it was. I have never enjoyed a ship more. I ended up on the Cunard Countess for 5 years then married the nursing sister and went to work for Foster Wheeler as a commissioning engineer.....Oh what happy days!!! By the way there was a post on here about cargo temperatures. We got her down to -30. for a fish run to Japan. It never happened, the run that is.
Simon.