Ocean Fleets & Cardiganshire

davewr
2nd November 2006, 12:24
I joined Ocean Fleets as a junior engineer in late 1970 and coasted until I first went deep-sea in May 71 on the Cardiganshire. I did 3 trips, including the one when she reverted to Bellerophon. I rember the funnel being repainted in Cape Town outward bound. I did a couple of years on the Kabala to West Africa and finished on the Donga, sailing between West Africa and the Southern USA.
I'd be pleased to here from anyone around at that time, or any info about anyone on the same ships.
Among the ships I coasted were the Helenus (I was landed in Glasgow with a burst appendix!), Jason, Eboe and Ebani.
Regards,
Dave Wright

R58484956
2nd November 2006, 14:30
A warm welcome Davewr to the site, enjoy it, plenty of ex BF lads on this site.

gdynia
2nd November 2006, 15:04
Welcome onboard to SN and enjoy the voyage

Graham McCombie
20th October 2008, 14:11
Dave. I believe we sailed together as junior engineers on the Bellerophon. Halcyon days. If you get the message get back to me Best Regards Graham McCombie

BillH
20th October 2008, 17:17
I joined Ocean Fleets as a junior engineer in late 1970 and coasted until I first went deep-sea in May 71 on the Cardiganshire. I did 3 trips, including the one when she reverted to Bellerophon. I rember the funnel being repainted in Cape Town outward bound. I did a couple of years on the Kabala to West Africa and finished on the Donga, sailing between West Africa and the Southern USA.
I'd be pleased to here from anyone around at that time, or any info about anyone on the same ships.
Among the ships I coasted were the Helenus (I was landed in Glasgow with a burst appendix!), Jason, Eboe and Ebani.
Regards,
Dave Wright
Dave,

Some of your vessels details from my records.

Bill

BELLEROPHON / CARDIGANSHIRE A” class steel motorship - Mk.III.
O.N. 183793. 7,707g. 4,491n. 462.9 x 62.3 x 31.7 feet.
7.cyl. 2 S.C.S. A. (750 x 1500mm) B&W type oil engine made by J. G. Kincaid & Company Ltd., Greenock. 7,600 BHP. 16 kts.
2.5.1950: Launched by Miss D. Montgomery at the Caledon Shipbuilding & Engineering Company Ltd., Dundee (Yard No. 473), for the Ocean Steamship Company Ltd. 10.1950: Completed. 23.9.1957: Transferred to Glen Line Ltd., (202,936), and renamed CARDIGANSHIRE and refrigerated at a further cosat of 141,795. 1972: Reverted to the Ocean Steamship Company Ltd., and to BELLEROPHON. 15.1.1973: Owners restyled as Ocean Transport & Trading Ltd. 10.1973: Transferred to Elder Dempster Lines Ltd. 1976: Transferred to the China Mutual Steam Navigation Company Ltd. 6.1976: Sold to Orri Navigation Lines, Greece, and renamed OBHOR under Saudi Arabian registry. 1976: Sold to Saudi Europe Lines Ltd., Saudi Arabia. 23.9.1978: Delivered to the Modern Commercial Corporation, Gadani Beach, for demolition. 11.1978: Work commenced.

[N.B. c1976: Temporarily renamed BELLE - registered at Boston, for use in the making of a film at Dartmouth, but no official record of the registration of this name has been located.]


HELENUS “H” class steel steamship.
O.N. 183751. 10,125g. 5,922n. 496.3 x 69.3 x 34.7 feet.
Three steam turbines made by the shipbuilder reduction geared to a single propeller shaft. 15,000 SHP. 18 kts.
13.4.1949: Launched by Harland & Wolff Ltd., Belfast (Yard No. 1376), for the Ocean Steamship Company Ltd. 29.10.1949: Completed. 1972: Sold, for $51 per light ton, to Li Chon Steel and Iron Corporation, Kaohsiung, for demolition. 7.7.1972: Delivered. 12.9.1972: Work commenced. 10.12.1972: Completed.


JASON “H” class steel steamship.
O.N. 183759. 10,160g. 5,942n. 496.3 x 69.3 x 34.7 feet.
Three, steam turbines made by the Wallsend Slipway Company Ltd., Newcastle, reduction geared to a single propeller shaft. 15,000 SHP. 18 kts.
9.6.1949: Launched by Swan, Hunter & Wigham, Richardson Ltd., Wallsend (Yard No.1775), for the China Mutual Steam Navigation Company Ltd. 1.1950: Completed. 19.5.1972: Delivered to Swie Kong Company, Kaohsiung, for demolition.


DONGA.
O.N. 301420.
6,559g. 3,438n. 465' 0" x 63' 1" x 26' 7 "
8,868g. 5,047n. x 27' 9 "
4-cyl. 2 S.C.S. A. (750 x 1500mm) B&W type oil engine made by J. G. Kincaid & Company Ltd., Greenock. 5,850 BHP. 14 kts.
12.4.1960: Launched by Mrs R. L. Hodges at Lithgows Ltd., Port Glasgow (Yard No. 1133), for the British & Burmese Steam Navigation Company Ltd., (P. Henderson & Company, managers), Glasgow. 1960: Completed. 6.5.1964: Sold to Elder Dempster Lines Ltd. 1972: Transferred to the China Mutual Steam Navigation Company Ltd., for one round voyage to the Far East. 1972: Transferred to Elder Dempster Lines Ltd. 26.3.1981: Sold to Diamant Merchant Shipping Co. Ltd., Greece, and renamed DIAMANT MERCHANT. 1983: Sold to Seakissed Marine Ltd., Cyprus, and renamed LYDRA. 7.10.1983: Delivered to J. M. Steel Industries, Alang for demolition.


EBANI
O.N. 185437. 9,376g. 5,201n. 508' 3" x 64' 4" x 28' 2"
6-cyl. 2 S.C.S.A. (725 x 2250mm) Doxford type oil engine (No. 742), made by the shipbuilder. 8,000 BHP. 16 kts.
18.12.1948: Ordered from Scotts' Shipbuilding & Engineering Company Ltd., Greenock (Yard No. 656), by Elder Dempster Lines Ltd. 25.12.1950: Keel laid. 13.3.1952: Launched by a Miss J. Tod. 19.6.1952: Completed at a cost of 941,844. 1973: Transferred to the China Mutual Steam Navigation Company Ltd. for one round trip to the Far East. 1974: Reverted to Elder Dempster Lines Ltd. 15.8.1977: Delivered to Shipbreaking Industries Ltd., for demolition at Faslane.

davewr
28th October 2008, 14:09
Bill,
Thanks for the info-it's amazing how so many details are still in existence.
Graham,
I tried to contact you via email but no response. Are your details (email address) up to date?
Regards,
Dave Wright

BillH
28th October 2008, 16:18
Bill,
Thanks for the info-it's amazing how so many details are still in existence.
Graham,
I tried to contact you via email but no response. Are your details (email address) up to date?
Regards,
Dave Wright
Dave,

My e-mail address has not changed in over 2 years so not sure why you cannot get through.

I have received SN private message notification from others OK so it is working.

Bill

eldersuk
29th October 2008, 00:36
I was 2/E on all the ED ships you mentioned 1960/70s

Derek

davewr
30th October 2008, 13:51
Hello Bill,
I found my discharge book and as I thought there was a note about the change of name from Cardiganshire to Bellerophon. I signed on for my last trip on her at Southampton on 17.03.1972 and it says the name change took place 10.05.1972 which I think would put us in Hong Kong, where we usually stayed for 2 weeks.
I thought the date 15.01.1973 was adrift as I was on the Kabala on the West Africa run by then.
I'm still pretty sure the funnel was painted in Cape Town but my memory has been proved faulty over quite a few things!
Regards,
Dave W.

BillH
30th October 2008, 16:29
Hello Bill,
I found my discharge book and as I thought there was a note about the change of name from Cardiganshire to Bellerophon. I signed on for my last trip on her at Southampton on 17.03.1972 and it says the name change took place 10.05.1972 which I think would put us in Hong Kong, where we usually stayed for 2 weeks.
I thought the date 15.01.1973 was adrift as I was on the Kabala on the West Africa run by then.
I'm still pretty sure the funnel was painted in Cape Town but my memory has been proved faulty over quite a few things!
Regards,
Dave W.
Hi Dave,

The 15.1.1973 was the owners changing the style of their name not the ship being changed.

I have only 1972 for the name change no actual day/month.

Bill

Succour
31st October 2008, 01:59
Hi Eldersuk.

Did you ever sail with my cousin Bobby Smith from South Shields.
He was with Elders for many Years. I sailed with him on OCL's Kowloon bay in 73.
He was a Motor Chief by then.

Succour.

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eldersuk
31st October 2008, 23:30
Hi Succour,

I seem to recall a Bob Smith but never sailed with him. Mind you, with my memory these days --maybe I did!

Eldersuk

Baz1uk
2nd November 2008, 21:07
Hi Graham, I think we sailed together on one of the Super 'P's.You were 3/E and I was 4/E.The 2/E was a small scots bloke with 'small mans syndrome'.I think you called him "wee shuggie" Last time I heard of you I think you were with Swire

S & F

Baz