Who is the Dog Class Tug Nut??

neillrush
23rd November 2006, 16:35
The ex-RMAS Sealyham in Gibraltar 21/11/06. She paid off in 1996 and was sold to Gibunco with whom she still serves. Aaaaaaaahhhh init cute!!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v628/gibmartrust/LR_Sealyham.jpg
Rgds Neill
Anybody got any updates on where the rest are now please?
www.gogibraltarsite.com

Phill
25th November 2006, 10:15
Dog Class
I came across a few, 4 are still in service with Serco Denholm? I’m not sure if this is the complete list


Alsatian ?
Cairn Seen in Whitehaven on 23rd October 2002
Dalmatian Owned by PortlandPort Named SandsfootCastle. Driven by Strawberry
Deerhound Rosyth, a black hull and blue superstructure?
Elkhound ?
Labrador ?
Husky Serco Denholm Clyde
Mastiff ?
Saluki Serco Denholm Devonport
Pointer ?
Setter Sold in 2005 for service in Nigeria, name unchanged
Sealyham sold to Gibunco, Gibraltar ?
Spaniel Serco Denholm Clyde
Sheepdog Serco Denholm Portsmouth
Foxhound ex Boxer-77Sold to NewhavenPort in 1996 and renamed FOXBAY. Sold again in 2004 and renamed TRIUMPH
Basset Owned by PortlandPort Named Rufus Castle
Collie ?
Corgi ?

Phill

neillrush
25th November 2006, 11:50
Many thanks Phil, I have got some more info come in I will post it on my RMAS page then on here
Regards Neill

STRAWBERRY
25th November 2006, 18:01
Saluki is currently on the slips at portland having her hull painted.
one of them has been named "Nore Commodore" but I forget which one. try google or the search on the site

Phill
25th November 2006, 18:53
Nore Commodore (ex Airdale, 1961), currently stationed at Newhaven, Sussex

Phill

neillrush
26th November 2006, 07:36
Hi Re-Dog Class:
Airedale: Last noted 2006 at Newhaven as "Nore Commander"
Alsation: Last heard of as Cumbrae with Osprey Shipping on UK coastal work.
Cairn: Reported on conversion to a yacht at Whithaven.
Dalmation: Portland as Sandsfoot Castle.
Deerhound: Babcock Rosyth Defence Ltd.
Elkhound: as above.
Labrador: Sold in 1998 to Coloured Fin Ltd Trinidad as Troubador.
Husky: SD on the Clyde.
Mastiff: To Italy via Gibraltar 09/04
Saluki: SD at Devonport. To Portland.
Sealyham: Sold to Gibunco in 1996? still current
Pointer: Last heard of with Pointer Marine Services in Rotterdam.
Setter: Sold late 2005 to Nigerian interests.
Spaniel: SD on the Clyde
Sheepdog: SD at Portsmouth.
Foxhound: Sold in 2004 as Triumph.
Basset: Portland as Rufus Castle.
Collie: Last noted at Aberdeen as Collie S.
Corgi: Last heard of with Seastructures in 2001

Any further info will be gratefully received

Further info at:
http://www.gogibraltarsite.com/RMAS.html

Thanks
Regards Neill

Bison
1st December 2006, 08:02
I must be the the Dog Tug Nut, and proud of being one of many.
A very handy type of tug excellent for its day. I found handling it a real pleasure.
The contract of Murray Tugs Nore Commodore with Newhaven Ports and Property is up for renewal, she may move but I doubt it.
Nore Commodore still works, not a lot as they say, in winds over 20 knots she stands by for the ferry. looks well maintained, the hull is very rusty without paint in the main
Regards to all
Bison

Bob S
1st December 2006, 19:26
COLLIE, renamed TE-AWHINA '01 for Thames and Medway Towage Ltd, COLLIE T '03 for Targe Towing.

ALSATIAN, renamed CLUTHA '95 for Klyne Tugs (Lowestoft) Ltd, CUMBRAE '97.

Built as BOXER, renamed FOXHOUND. Sold out of naval service as FOXHOUND to M J Doyle, renamed FOXBAY by M J Doyle.


I'll post photos later as TE-AWHINA, CLUTHA & FOXBAY.

STRAWBERRY
2nd December 2006, 18:09
I must be the the Dog Tug Nut, and proud of being one of many.
A very handy type of tug excellent for its day. I found handling it a real pleasure.
The contract of Murray Tugs Nore Commodore with Newhaven Ports and Property is up for renewal, she may move but I doubt it.
Nore Commodore still works, not a lot as they say, in winds over 20 knots she stands by for the ferry. looks well maintained, the hull is very rusty without paint in the main
Regards to all
Bison

Hi Bison, You and me both perhaps. I am skipper of ex RMAS Dalmation Named Sandsfoot Castle in Portland and I also on occasions skipper Ex RMAS Beagle/Basset. Named Rufus Castle. I too find Dog class tugs a Joy to Handle, I take it from your Profile, that you are Retired...Retired in what may I ask? Sounds like you have skippered a few Dogs in your time. Is this correct. Cheers Andy(Thumb)

stouch
22nd January 2007, 15:28
I'm pretty sure Alsatian is at Rosyth, Will double check though


EDIT: Yep, Alsatian(A106) was at Rosyth in 1990

merchman
22nd January 2007, 15:46
as i recall you get the crew cabin up to near suna heat great for the obligtory hour and a half dinner breaks that were sacrosanct in the rmas. that said came close to pegging it when the tow shot accross the horses and pinned me to the port gunnel my own fault , sleepydust in my eyes from dinner time i guess , anyway that said they were great tugs

OLD STRAWBERRY
22nd January 2007, 19:28
Merchman, You know you are bound by the official secrets act !!.

Bison
23rd January 2007, 09:28
Hi Andy

Just seen the latest post and saw your comment,

Spent one day as mate and several spells as skipper, moonlighting from another job while on leave mainly in the Thames and Channel, made a change from the North Sea hitting oil rig legs. peaceful less stressful small but comfortable a pleasure............First tug Roa of Barrow 1959

Does anyone know where the Nore Commodore has gone. I was wrong she has gone. Newhaven has lost it resident tug and its dredger the Dingaling properly called Ringacoltig.

Retired and how, should have retired in my youth , best job I have ever had, a rest in the afternoon and I still get paid (Pension)

Have fun, you should be busy in the next few months

regards Bison

senior pilot
3rd November 2007, 22:05
was bosun on cairn at rosyth 1972/75, ex skipper did you know that cairn was all most sunk by h. m. s devonshire 1972 when she caught us broadside on , our skippers quick thinking saved the day putting both engines full ahead and wheel hard to starboard pulled us free . it smashed one gear box to little bits put us in dock for a wee while alex

alastairjs
4th November 2007, 03:14
Just found this thread, here's the history for "Corgi":
Tug MOLOSSOS - IMO number : 8891819, Call Sign : SY2313
Built by Rowhedge Ironworks, Colchester in 1965 as Corgi, Gross tonnage: 147
1997. Major rebuild of both main engines, replacement of both gearboxes and 30 year class survey.
1999 Registered owner: ATLANTIC PLANT, SEASTRUCTURES Ship manager.
2000 Registered St Vincent and Grenadines.
2002, May, Sold to ISSALOS SHIPPING 40, Ayiou Konstantinou Street, Marousi, Athens. Ship manager: ISSALOS SHIPPING, Athens. Renamed Molossos.
2004, July, Re-registered in Greece.
Seen here http://www.shipsnostalgia.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/82580/ppuser/5353 berthed in Myrina, Lemnos, where she seems to have become a permanent fixture.
Regards,
Alastair

neillrush
18th January 2008, 07:52
Hi
In am still trying to sort out the Dog class details, has anyone got a full list of who built which one or is there indeed a list of all tugs with the RMAS.
http://www.gogibraltarsite.com/RMAS.html
Rgds and thanks
Neill

Anyone got details on the Girl-class??

jbryce
21st January 2008, 21:00
This is the ex Alsation as Cumbrae on the River Wear at Sunderland in January 2005. She was also in port recently.

Jock3
23rd January 2008, 23:30
Presumably this is Deerhound escorting Ark out the Forth in Dec 06, or possibly Alsation?
http://navalphotos.fotopic.net/p34578168.html

Noddy-Billing
8th February 2008, 13:26
Looks like Deerhound to me. Although all Dog class had similar diamensions and layouts, wheelhouse designs changed over time. Alsatian had a rounded monkey island surround, while Deerhound, I believe, had bridge rails ( Corgi certainly did). Later tugs, like Saluki, had windows above the front edge of the wheelhouse, to allow the skippers to see the Pilot during 'cold' moves.

tugboatbill
22nd March 2008, 08:19
"Cairn" is still in private ownership after being released for sale from the RMAS and is currently at home in Guernsey. If anyone is interested, she is still in pretty good shape, even though the paintwork isn't quite as good as it has been , and there have been a couple of offers for purchase, although these havn't produced a sale as yet.
She does still get to sea fairly often, and can sometimes be seen around the South Coast when the weather is kind !

Waighty
11th April 2008, 12:58
Dog Class
I came across a few, 4 are still in service with Serco Denholm? I’m not sure if this is the complete list


Alsatian ?
Cairn Seen in Whitehaven on 23rd October 2002
Dalmatian Owned by PortlandPort Named SandsfootCastle. Driven by Strawberry
Deerhound Rosyth, a black hull and blue superstructure?
Elkhound ?
Labrador ?
Husky Serco Denholm Clyde
Mastiff ?
Saluki Serco Denholm Devonport
Pointer ?
Setter Sold in 2005 for service in Nigeria, name unchanged
Sealyham sold to Gibunco, Gibraltar ?
Spaniel Serco Denholm Clyde
Sheepdog Serco Denholm Portsmouth
Foxhound ex Boxer-77Sold to NewhavenPort in 1996 and renamed FOXBAY. Sold again in 2004 and renamed TRIUMPH
Basset Owned by PortlandPort Named Rufus Castle
Collie ?
Corgi ?

Phill
Collie owned by Targe Towing, Montrose

gamekeeper
16th March 2009, 15:01
crewed on mastiff at chatham dockyard from allmost new.

where is she working initaly; and is she still using same name?

Waighty
14th May 2009, 12:46
Collie S is operated by Targe Towing of Montrose - helps out with big tankers at Dundee.

Waighty
14th May 2009, 12:52
The Dogs in Rosyth are operated by Rosyth Marine Services (which is made up of ex RMAS Masters, Chiefs and crews). They're contracted to Rosyth Royal Dockyard (Babcocks).

Alsatian (the one with one set of telegraphs/controls only - on the stbd side) went to Whitehaven some years ago. May have been sold on since. Would like to know what happened to Pointer - she was my "makee learnee" tug under the auspices of Willie Milne the then Master - great shiphandler and all round good guy - and I believe one of the managers at Rosyth Marine Services.

STRAWBERRY
18th May 2009, 18:50
What happened to the port telegraphs?

Noddy-Billing
19th May 2009, 13:52
What happened to the port telegraphs?

Alsatian never had a telegraph on the Port side. I don't know how many others were produced with only one telegraph. Certainly all the later ones I knew had two.(Pint)

cryan
13th June 2009, 02:02
Not all Rosyth Marine Services guys are ex RMAS
Martin "Stan" Matthews - Owner/ general Manager
Willie Milne = Operations Manager/ Relief Skipper/ Dockyard Pilot
Bobby Sutherland - Skipper Elkhound
Raymond Pratt - Skipper Deerhound
Davie McIlravie - GP Rating Deerhound
Nicol "Roo" Mitchell - GP Rating Deerhound
Vince Cullen - GP Rating Elkhound
Non Ex RMAS Personnel
Chris Ryan - Chief Engineer Deerhound - Ex Merchant Navy
Darren Forsyth - Chief Engineer - Ex Merchant Navy (Although his dad was RMAS at Rosyth and Pompey)
Pete Moss, Chief Engineer - St Margaret - Ex RFA
Joe Milne - GP Rating Elkhound - Ex Black Watch 3rd Bat Royal Regiment of Scotland.
When it started though when the yard was privatised I think most of the lads were Ex RMAS.
No sign as yet of Babcock replacing the Dogs but we are hoping they will before the new carriers are built as the old girls are a bit long in the tooth and need a lot of money spent on them which as yet has not been forthcoming.

senior pilot
13th June 2009, 20:33
worked with willie, bobby and vince in the 70s alex

STRAWBERRY
14th June 2009, 11:24
Portland Skippers...Albert Palmer, Dave Rockingham, Ted Toop, Nick Morris, and I am sure Dad could let you know of many more...

Jock3
14th December 2009, 18:51
Still active on the Tay the ex Collie, now Collie T
http://maritimegallery.fotopic.net/p43931755.html

shoot999
4th January 2010, 12:33
Cheers for the photo Jock3.
I was a cabin boy on the Collie (based at Chatham) during the late 60s.

Jimboarr
1st March 2010, 12:11
For Your information, Spaniel and Husky are laid up in the great harbour in Greenock, and are up for sale

capt jim martin
28th February 2011, 13:43
Reference Dog class RMAS tugs. I took "Dalmatian" from RN Dockyard Portsmouth to Saxon Wharf, River Itchen, Southampton 11th November 2003 for disposal. Shortest trip I ever made! Has anyone got a photo of this cracking little tug, in her original RMAS livery? I believe she was sold on and is still working somewhere.

senior pilot
28th February 2011, 16:41
look in the pas /rmas gallery for pictures

Jock3
28th February 2011, 18:10
Here's Collie T at work on the Tay http://maritimegallery.fotopic.net/p23441295.html and you will still find her there

RetiredPMSO
18th June 2011, 19:44
Why is this section under the RFA, now we have an RMAS section can the moderator not move it to the right area?

Bob S
19th June 2011, 16:29
Reference Dog class RMAS tugs. I took "Dalmatian" from RN Dockyard Portsmouth to Saxon Wharf, River Itchen, Southampton 11th November 2003 for disposal. Shortest trip I ever made! Has anyone got a photo of this cracking little tug, in her original RMAS livery? I believe she was sold on and is still working somewhere.

Hi Jim,

Couple of shots of her here
with pennant number at Portsmouth on the 5 June 1994
without pennant number at Portsmouth on the 4th July 2003

She was sold on in 2003 to Portland Towage as the SANDSFOOT CASTLE.

Regards

Bob

senior pilot
22nd September 2012, 20:17
corgi still going strong in limanos greece

NickNZ
25th September 2012, 09:21
Lovely boats, always beavering away, I have fond memories of watching the race up and down the Tamar. Like the Leanders, irreplacable.