British Avon / breaking her back.

connie
10th December 2006, 00:31
hi any one remember the british avon breaking her back, whilst crossing the north sea, this ship was truly jinxed, as she also suffered from a serious engine room fire, i joined her in sweden under going drydock repairs, for broking back.
regards connie.

willhastie
12th December 2006, 09:40
yup i was on her in the gulf when she caught fire.june 74,we were gulf trading and had just discharged a full cargo of motorspirit in dhubai and were on our way to the northern gulf,iran i think,i was down in the port accomadation when the alarms went i was on my way to the bridge when the engineroom door flew open and an engineer came out followed by flames,we dogged the door and he muttered that it was bad. arriving on the bridge the ol man pointed and said get the port lifeboat away and standoff amidships i was more than happy to comply as the deck between the bridge and funnel was scorching.the co2 drenching had been activated which only helped untile it reached the bottom plates the the fire was away again,we loaded both lifeboats with everyone apart from 7 bods who stayed fighting the fire.we were in the boats about 4 hours then picked up by a japanese tug,and later that day were tranferred to british pride,we were given a bottle of four bells each and spent 2 nights onboard in the bar from what i remember, as we were gulf trading i had taken a razor to my scone right down to the wood and when i knocked on my parents front door my dear mum said yes how can i help you,mum its me william,my girlfriend at the time took one look and said nothankyou go away,her loss eh

RonF
13th December 2006, 01:43
hi any one remember the british avon breaking her back

I remember this, although I wasn't on board. My friend John Richardson was a DC on her, and he told me of a 1.5 foot gash across the deck. It was around '76-'77, IIRC.

I always thought it had happened in the Bay of Biscay, but I may be mistaken, as I'd just come through a Force 10 there on the Border Shepherd (must post some photos of that, now that I think about it)

Ron

junkcatcher
17th January 2007, 10:46
I remember it also I was on the the Kennet headed from Isle Grain for Europort at the time --- more than any other river boat Kennet was her identical twin in every built to the same spec in the same yard.

junkcatcher
17th January 2007, 12:21
Re engine fire on Avon, I recall it was caused by a pipe on the hydraulic power pack that was located on a stairway landing from the crew deck which was just above the exhaust manifold fracturing and spraying SHF48 hydraulic oil on to the turbo blower.

I had the job of modifying the Kennet to fit steel sheet spray deflectors round the power pack to prevent it happening to the Kennet, but had the job pinched off me by the 2E who liked to do a bit of arc welding. In the process he managed to start a fire in the save-all which hadn't been cleared of oil, no bother a single second blast of co2 put it out.

coley70
25th April 2007, 07:45
I sailed on the British Forth when Alastair Wilson was C/E. He was C/E on the Avon when the fire occured. He didn't speak about it much.

BigNick
2nd May 2007, 13:34
Hi,

I sailed on the Avon (and the Forth) around 1980 ish. Both the incidents were part of her backstory by then. The hyrdaulic power pack had an extra bulkhead around it i think, (backfitted to sister ships as well) so if it ever failed in the same way it would spray hydraulic oil over hot exhaust manifolds!

The extra doubling plates around the tank hatch where the split had been repaired were there for all to see.

Happy days......

Nick

town78
12th August 2008, 13:48
hi any one remember the british avon breaking her back, whilst crossing the north sea, this ship was truly jinxed, as she also suffered from a serious engine room fire, i joined her in sweden under going drydock repairs, for broking back.
regards connie.
hi, i was on board when she broke i believe we joined in coppenhagen and wre on way to i.o g. when it happened, you could put your hand in the gash which was quite stupid, we turned round and went to dry dock in gothenburg for about 6 weeks wilst it got repaired. ray

Bob Fleming
9th September 2008, 21:32
I was 3/O on there, happened 29 Dec 1976 in the evening (or 30th). Seriously scarey when we saw the two bits of ship moving in different directions!

Bob.

Lurch008
28th December 2014, 21:21
I was on the British Avon the night she broke her back in the North Sea on the 29th December 1974. I was in the forecastle at the time as we had just started tank clean and where sheltering from the freezing spray off the bow. I was a P.O. or (pump man)All of a sudden we were on a Big dipper going down and down and water started to come into the rope and paint locker. I remember hanging on for dear life what with the loud bangs and water flooding in. Then just as it started we where going up in shuddering jerks. Ropes and paint flying everywhere. Bridge called me up on asking radio for any casualty's. Luck for us none. Asked to report any damage. Gas mast rise stay had snapped and had to be tidy done. Then walk down the deck we saw the crack in the deck this was about 2 foot wide and run right across the deck and over both sides under the sea. The mate came down and order we flood both tank each side each side of the crack. the crew where mustered in life jackets in the mess roomand all water tight door where closed as we where going to turn around and head back to Sweden. Stervanger rescue where put on stand by. We had it back to Sweden cleaned tanks and went to dry dock. When the true state of the damage showed how luck we were. Not only was this ship held together by her keel and pipe lines but the forward tank bottoms where like corrugate sheet and had to be replace. Had a memorable time in Gothenburg.

twogrumpy
29th December 2014, 16:18
Which River Boat? was it had the economiser fire that took out much of the engine room?

DaveM399
29th December 2014, 17:54
Which River Boat? was it had the economiser fire that took out much of the engine room?

The Tweed rings a (dim and distant) bell.

twogrumpy
30th December 2014, 16:55
Thanks, trouble is all the bells are dim and distant these days.(Jester)

JohnBP
31st December 2014, 01:34
Hi i was Alistairs junior on the Br Centaur when he was 3rd, great guy his wife Carol was aboard... John

Graham Wallace
31st December 2014, 17:57
Avon 1976, I have full crew lists for her 14th Dec 1976 and 13th January 1977.

Usually I would put the list up in SN , but in this case It might identify some of the 'nom de plumes' in this thread.

However if you sailed on her at the time of the incident and are interested in a copy send me a shipsnostalgia email .

The December copy mentions she was 'Coastal Trading NW Europe' and the January 1977 'Arrived Gothenburg 31/12 (repairs)'. That sounds a slight understatement!

Graham

kevjacko
1st January 2015, 14:20
I remember sailing with a 2nd cook from Sunderland, Colin McLoughlin who I'm sure said he was on her at the time either Galley Boy or Assistant Steward.

Graham Wallace
1st January 2015, 17:41
I remember sailing with a 2nd cook from Sunderland, Colin McLoughlin who I'm sure said he was on her at the time either Galley Boy or Assistant Steward.

Kev,

You are quite correct he was on her as Catering Boy, he was gone by 13th Jan in Gothenburg. G Delaney was Cat/Off Dec/Jan.

Lurch008 was also listed on her, he contacted me by SN Email.

Graham

kevjacko
1st January 2015, 19:55
Kev,

You are quite correct he was on her as Catering Boy, he was gone by 13th Jan in Gothenburg. G Delaney was Cat/Off Dec/Jan.

Lurch008 was also listed on her, he contacted me by SN Email.

Graham

Cheers Graham. Sailed with Colin on the Resolution 83 . Good lad bit of a character.

Graham Wallace
1st January 2015, 20:06
Cheers Graham. Sailed with Colin on the Resolution 83 . Good lad bit of a character.

So you did, May 1983/July 1983, he was Second Cook, Cat/O was L Bloor. Skellern OM and Arthur Salmon CE.

Graham

connie
1st January 2015, 20:53
hi just been reading the diary I kept for 1977. I joined the avon in Gothenburg wed/2/feb 1977-weleft on the 7th of feb for Antwerp arriving I/o/grain 13feb,spent the next few months coasting grangemouth/Swansea/ grain/hamburg/saltend. seems we smacked the locks side in Swansea and spent time alongside the repair berth for a gash in the plates to berepaired.
Gerry delaney was the cat /off and lived in s. shields.
not sure but think the ch. ck was from Scotland, and pete mellon from Exeter was 2nd ck.i left the avon in porto foxi Sardinia 15/6/77
graham-do you know who the captain was? see to recall the ch/officer was also relieving captain. regards john.

Graham Wallace
2nd January 2015, 01:14
hi just been reading the diary I kept for 1977. I joined the avon in Gothenburg wed/2/feb 1977-weleft on the 7th of feb for Antwerp arriving I/o/grain 13feb,spent the next few months coasting grangemouth/Swansea/ grain/hamburg/saltend. seems we smacked the locks side in Swansea and spent time alongside the repair berth for a gash in the plates to berepaired.
Gerry delaney was the cat /off and lived in s. shields.
not sure but think the ch. ck was from Scotland, and pete mellon from Exeter was 2nd ck.i left the avon in porto foxi Sardinia 15/6/77
graham-do you know who the captain was? see to recall the ch/officer was also relieving captain. regards john.

Connie,

Jan 1977;
Captain, D McCallum, Mate RA Marsh
C/Ck, IA Mackenzie, 2/C/bk, VMR
Cat/O, G Delaney

May 1977;
Captain, JA Potter, Mate IJH Mewse
C/Ck , IA McK., 2/C/Br, PG Mellin
Cat/O, TI Parkes

June 16th 1977;
Same 5 as May 1977

Graham
MJL?

Lurch008
2nd January 2015, 11:05
Thank you for the information regarding who was Captain on the Avon.Yes it was D McCullum other wise nick named Colombo because he wore the same rain coat. I also sailed with him on the British Liberty in 1975 if i can rightly remember. He was a great captain and well like by all.

Lurch008
2nd January 2015, 11:17
British Avon had a oil cooler problem in the gulf and had to return to the I.O.G for a replacement. It was not ready on arrival to the I.O.G. hence the Swedish trip as the engine could only be operated and cold water until the oil cooler was replaced.
This was done in dry dock while in Sweden for major repairs

jep1916
3rd January 2015, 15:30
I was 2/E on the Avon when she went for Guarantee Dry Dock in Amsterdam in early 1974. Does anybody remember when the Todd Combustion Service Engineer blew the roof off the Boiler because he hadn't purged the furnace correctly. As I recall, he failed to use atomising air in place of atomising steam when flashing up and the oil burner simply sprayed heavy fuel oil straight into the furnace a bit like a paint sprayer. He finally phoned his office to ask them what to do and they told him to use compressed air in place of the atomising steam. As noted he didn't purge the furnace and there was one almighty blowback and the roof of the boiler floated down in a cloud of lagging powder, which no doubt contained a hell of a lot of asbestos.
I also slipped and fell onto some feed water pipes and cracked two ribs, so it was an eventful dry dock for me.

George Aitken was the C/E and Alasdair Wilson was the YoYo 2/e and C/E. I had relieved Alasdair about a month before the Dry Docking.

twogrumpy
3rd January 2015, 16:19
Only had the joys of Todd on my last trip, tufnol profiled cams and broken wires on potentiometers seem to ring a bell, other than that hours of joy with Saacke, and Mitsubishi controls which of course worked well as did most Mitsi gear.

kevjacko
3rd January 2015, 23:18
So you did, May 1983/July 1983, he was Second Cook, Cat/O was L Bloor. Skellern OM and Arthur Salmon CE.

Graham

Len Bloor fondly known as 'life's a Bloor' amongst us then. He used to have this homemade, Call My Bluff table he would wheel out for social evenings. Liked his Bacardi.
Chief Cook on there for the record was Bernie Bullen, Second Steward was Tony Richardson, Assistant stewards were myself and Dave Allen, Cat boy Alex Roy.