Mystery ship

douglasjamesmichael
24th December 2006, 22:19
What ship sailed from the Gulf to Israel with oil and the crew had 2 x passports.

randcmackenzie
24th December 2006, 22:47
s.t. stonehaven

Gulpers
24th December 2006, 23:06
Beat me to it randcmackenzie - yes definitely Stonehaven. (Applause)

exsailor
25th December 2006, 03:07
In 1970's British flag tanker "Dora" was running Gulf-Eilat. Vessel indirectly (very hidden trail) owned by Israeli Ministry of Defence. Was operated from behind closed doors by one of the Israeli directors of I.F.R Services, London (part of the MFC group with direct Israeli govt. links), for whom I worked, doing a stint in the office and indeed having dealings with this vessel.

muldonaich
25th December 2006, 10:23
s.t. stonehaven

thats right roddy took her out new as hopepark wonder who got paid the bonus???? regards kevin.

trotterdotpom
25th December 2006, 23:11
I heard it was common practice to give seamen going to Israel a new passport as any Israeli stamp in your passport would make it impossible to get a visa for Saudi Arabia and several other Arab countries.

To obtain a Saudi entry visa you used to have to get a letter from a priest or minister confirming that you were a Christian (ie (presumeably) not Jewish). I recall joining a ship in Jeddah and the 4th Engineer didn't arrive, much to the annoyance of the incumbent 4th. He finally arrived about 6 weeks later in Aqaba - he had failed to get a visa for Saudi because he sent his application in with a note saying: "I am a hermaphrodite!".

Not a bad way to getr extra leave.

John T.

Dick S
18th February 2007, 20:00
I remember being on the Chemical Venturer in the early 80s and going to Israel, Jet Fuel was the cargo. To be discreet Israel was referred to as 'Orange'. We discharged a couple of caro parcels in Turkey where the 1st thing one of the refinery staff said was 'so Haiffa is your next port'.! So much for discretion!

ian d.cameron
18th February 2007, 23:22
we where along side in ashdod in 82 and a Argentinean ship was loading israeli migs. no discretion business is business.

Stephen J. Card
19th February 2007, 12:18
I heard it was common practice to give seamen going to Israel a new passport as any Israeli stamp in your passport would make it impossible to get a visa for Saudi Arabia and several other Arab countries.

To
John T.



In 1982 I was in Iran on POLAR URUGUAY. Before getting there we asked the office (Uiterwyk Lines) about 'danger pay' and 'war bonus'. We were Liberian flag. The office came back with, "Liberia is not at way with Iran." It was a long shot anyway.

Stephen

Captain Scarface
4th May 2007, 17:55
What ship sailed from the Gulf to Israel with oil and the crew had 2 x passports.
Try the HOPEPARK re-named STONEHAVEN

John Rogers
4th May 2007, 19:11
The seven years I was at sea 1947-1954 we never carried a passport,when did that all start.
John.

notnila
4th May 2007, 23:26
I was wondering the same thing. I came ashore in 1967 and never possessed a passport for another five years!!

Geoff Garrett
5th May 2007, 00:42
Travelled all over the world and to every corner of the planet and never carried a passport, in fact even got aboard aircraft flying over international borders whilst joining and leaving ships and all on the strength of British Seamans Discharge Book No.R759507.

Chouan
11th June 2007, 10:02
The only time I ever needed a passport in my seagoing career (1974-1990) was when I joined a ship in the US. I always had my passport, but never otherwise needed it, or even showed it.

Alan G
8th December 2007, 05:18
http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/9113/hopeparkatcapetownwv7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

The Hopepark at Capetown, and Simonstown, we lost an Anchor going around the Cape, and stopped for repairs


(Deleted by Marconi Sahib because it contains personal information best not left on a public website)

This is the Passport most of us used, the Seamans ID card, that got me everywhere, except the USA, where I had to go to the Embassy and they produced a headed notepaper with a visa stamp, and my photo on it.

Alan G

Frank P
8th December 2007, 11:53
Alan,

you have put all your personal details on view, that is not recommended.

Cheers Frank (Thumb)

K urgess
8th December 2007, 12:17
I've deleted your ID card Alan.
Best not post personal details like NI number on a website that is accessible to all. Identity thieves could use it.
If you want to you should edit the picture to remove sensitive details and post it again.

Alan G
8th December 2007, 16:55
Okay, thank you for your concern, I am to trusting, it's this terrible world we now live in, but I do think I should not have posted my NI number, all the rest is not current anyway. Thanks again.

Alan

muldonaich
9th December 2007, 01:04
Okay, thank you for your concern, I am to trusting, it's this terrible world we now live in, but I do think I should not have posted my NI number, all the rest is not current anyway. Thanks again.

Alandont be to pissed of allan we just robbed you of 1,00000 i dont supposed you even missed it best regards kev.

Alan G
9th December 2007, 01:20
LOL.........Blimey Kev. is that all.. you would have got a lot more last week before my American Mortgage went out.

ALan

highlander403
26th January 2008, 10:43
i remember when i first got a job with the glasgow greeks(j&j D)i was supposed to join the stonehaven and was asked by the personell office if had an israeli or arab country stamps in my passport


scotty