[Spurling Pipe]

Geoff,

I have memories of a taxi firm used by BISCO agency department in Middlesborough. Owner was a tall ginger man named George???

Dave

[Erimus]

Originally Posted by Spurling Pipe

Geoff,

I have memories of a taxi firm used by BISCO agency department in Middlesborough. Owner was a tall ginger man named George???

Dave

Can't place a George Dave......they mainly used Boro Taxis in my days (1960-64 before London) and the owner was called Walter. I'm sure I would have remembered a ginger one.....there was a redheaded girl though...worked for her Dad who had a red Humber Hawk.

geoff

[calvin]

remeber it was boro taxis and used lots ford zeyhers zodiacs and hawks the ginger one u on about could be the taxis from south bank next to queens and junction pubs think owner called reed or chesworth

[Spurling Pipe]

Your probably right!

[Erimus]

Originally Posted by Spurling Pipe

Your probably right!

New one on me...learn something everyday! The ones in Station Road were either Nelsons or Station Taxis.......

geoff

[Spurling Pipe]

There was a Margaret working in the dock office in Redcar. Or is my memory playing tricks again?

[Erimus]

Originally Posted by Spurling Pipe

There was a Margaret working in the dock office in Redcar. Or is my memory playing tricks again?

Again spot on.......I worked with her briefly when she first joined BSC but she only retired fairly recently. She is married to Capt.John Black one of the Tees Port Superintendents now also retired. ..she lives about 10 miles from me...but I rarely see her.

geoff

[Spurling Pipe]

She was very efficient and pleasant with it.

Dave

[Erimus]

Originally Posted by Spurling Pipe

She was very efficient and pleasant with it.

Dave

Indeed she was and I'll mention this exchange next time we do meet..

geoff

[para handy clyde]

Hello All.Great to read all the posts about the ore wagons.I sailed on the.Oremina of Houlders.catering boy first trip.Joined her in rothsay dock in Glasgow.Full Peanut uniform(Mothers Orders)you can imagine the reception when i stepped on board.I also sailed on Cape Franklin of scottish ship management.I remember an incident off hartlepool with the Franklin when The Ravensworth scraped along side of us and we needed a tug to pull us apart.
happy days

[done it]

hi para handy . when did you sail on the oremina i sailed on her about 1959 out of port talbot

[para handy clyde]

Hello Done it.I sailed on the Oremina 9thfeb1967 to24th June1967.Just checked discharge book.How strange is this.I paid off in Port Talbot.I loved the town.All the people were very friendly to us seaman.Cheers for replying to my post.

[1234balerman]

anyone sailed on the dalhana? ore carrier earley seventies

[Erimus]

Originally Posted by 1234balerman

anyone sailed on the dalhana? ore carrier earley seventies

Another one of 'my ships' Had lunch on her in Narvik September 3rd 1972...roast chicken dinner..Captain was, I think, called Smith and from Sedgefield.........had to swap a couple of voyages to Nouadhibou for that lunch for wife and myself....we were on Livanita at the time.

geoff

[1234balerman]

I was on her off and on for a few trips started as cabin boy finnishing as 2nd cook 1970 to about 1975

[A.D.FROST]

Originally Posted by 1234balerman

anyone sailed on the dalhana? ore carrier earley seventies

Front cover of "Looking Back At BulkCarriers" by Andrew Wiltshire

[oldseamerchant]

Can't decide which weakened the structure of Iron Ore carriers more. The carriage of the Ore itself and the associated BMs & SFs or the appalling discharge regime in places like Redcar in particular. No Tankside Brkt was safe!!!! Not uncommon after discharging +100K to remain alongside for several days rebuilding the ship (well, would you believe the holds??)

[A.D.FROST]

Originally Posted by oldseamerchant

Can't decide which weakened the structure of Iron Ore carriers more. The carriage of the Ore itself and the associated BMs & SFs or the appalling discharge regime in places like Redcar in particular. No Tankside Brkt was safe!!!! Not uncommon after discharging +100K to remain alongside for several days rebuilding the ship (well, would you believe the holds??)

Including Bidston(Birkenhead)Left the Hopper side wing tanks like a cauldron.

[Erimus]

Originally Posted by A.D.FROST

Including Bidston(Birkenhead)Left the Hopper side wing tanks like a cauldron.

You can add Newport and Immingham to that!

geoff

[John Cassels]

Originally Posted by oldseamerchant

Can't decide which weakened the structure of Iron Ore carriers more. The carriage of the Ore itself and the associated BMs & SFs or the appalling discharge regime in places like Redcar in particular. No Tankside Brkt was safe!!!! Not uncommon after discharging +100K to remain alongside for several days rebuilding the ship (well, would you believe the holds??)

Apart from the well documented grab damage , the loading/
discharging regime didn't help.
Remember once loading in under an hour at Seven Islands and
discharging at Margam in 12 hours.
Just imagine what this would do to SF's and Bending M's.

Denholm ore boats were wood sheathed up the sides ?. More than
40 years ago now so can be forgiven for asking !.

[Malky Glaister]

Dead slow ahead past the Seven Islands jetty !! loaded!!!

five weeks discharge in Barry!!!

regards

Malky

[oldseamerchant]

There was a story circulating about a ship 'Cerro Bolivar'???? which having discharged at Bidston and crossing the Bay en-route Vittoria the Mate heard a persistent 'thud' in one of the holds. On inspection....yes you guessed it.....one of the bulldozers had been left onboard.

Any truth in that Erimus?

[Erimus]

Originally Posted by oldseamerchant

There was a story circulating about a ship 'Cerro Bolivar'???? which having discharged at Bidston and crossing the Bay en-route Vittoria the Mate heard a persistent 'thud' in one of the holds. On inspection....yes you guessed it.....one of the bulldozers had been left onboard.

Any truth in that Erimus?

Personally I don't remember that one but it did happen.....one Christmas Eve a ship desperate to get out before the dockers went to the pub left port and when she returned there was a skid loader perched on top of the ore...another had cactus grabs impaled in her tanktops,between Christmas & New Year, and had to drydock to get them removed safely...both these incidents were in the early 60's before the majority of the 'new' fleet was operational...so they were probably ships like the Globe Trader or the Sirefjell rather than Denholms/Boltons vessels...

rgds
geoff

[oldseamerchant]

Spent a little time 'Googling' since post re ships name.She was a Navios owned or chartered vessel can't be sure which.

[Erimus]

Originally Posted by oldseamerchant

Spent a little time 'Googling' since post re ships name.She was a Navios owned or chartered vessel can't be sure which.

Yes she was one of the older Navios Corporation vessels registered in Nassau but in effect part of United States Steel Corporation who used them exclusively from Puerto Ordaz on a worldwide basis.....ships like this and the old Pantokrater were eventually replaced by the River Class...i.e Rhine Ore, Weser Ore etc......which were 19100 SDWT ( therefore could only do 17000 into Bidston).....or the Rio class which were about 23000 sdwt....i.e Rio Orinocco was a regular into Newport.

geoff