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Old 10th June 2016, 22:21
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Planet Lightship In Distress In Liverpool

Hello To all at S.N.
The Mersey Bar lightship PLANET which is presently located in the Albert Dock in Liverpool is in imminant danger of being
sent to the scrapyard due to a serious shortage of funds.
An urgent appeal by the lightships owner Alan Roberts and from the members of the MRMS (Marine radio museums society volunteers) are presently trying desperately to raise the funding to help save PLANET and were hoping that some members of S.N. may like to help with a donation to this very worthwhile appeal.
If you ever sailed in or out of Liverpool Planet was the last thing you saw when sailing from Liverpool and also the first thing you saw arriving back in the Mersey.
A special donation website appeal has been set up and we certainly hope that you will have a look at it.

https://www.chuffed.org/project/savetheplanetliverpool


Many thanks in anticipation.
Freddythefrog

If any S.N.moderator sees this appeal please could you place it on the S.N. site where it will be seen by ALL viewers not just the radio/electronics viewers. Thank You
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Old 11th June 2016, 08:33
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I "clicked" on the link Freddy, but it said:-

"the requested URL was not found on this server".
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Old 11th June 2016, 11:46
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Same here but following did work:

https://www.chuffed.org/project/savetheplanetliverpool

Or simply Google "savetheplanetliverpool"
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Old 11th June 2016, 14:46
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HYER BLUEMOON AND VARLEY
Many thanks your knowledge with spotting the problem, have now redone the web address and it now works as it should. best regards ftf
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Old 29th June 2016, 21:41
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Hi Guys Stan McNally here 45 years working for Marconi.
Now working hard to save the Planet Lightship. Can't understand why we only have 14 supporters on the donations site. We are desperately trying to turn the tide and keep here safe. If we can get the ten grand to pay off the berthing fees, we will be in with a chance for her to start earning her keep. Come on guys we all must have sailed past her in the past and we want to keep for the future and as a memory to our Merchant Navy, if only Two thousand of us put in a fiver it will be done. Surely we are not the only ones that want to try.
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Old 29th June 2016, 21:47
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Me again, would just like to say a quick way to the donation site is via. Our own web site www.mrmsw.co.uk. And you can see what we have been capable of over the years.
Best regards and please help,

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Old 9th December 2016, 00:19
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Bring back Planet Lightship to Liverpool.

The current situation is that over 650 have signed email 38 Degrees petition since 5th Dec launch supporting Planet to be returned to Liverpool. Petition started by Mr J. B. of Liverpool. The idea is to persuade the local M.P and also the Chair of CR&T to get her returned. The mooring fees owed were paid but because of costs of towing her away on 200 mile trip around Wales before that she was not returned. Planet is being sold by auction 16 Dec by sealed bid most likely for the scrap despite being in fairly good condition to recoup towing costs. So it looks as if she may well be crossing the bar.

She was the last manned lightship in Britain as well as part of Liverpool's maritime heritage.

Full story with photos and info regarding funding of CR&T can be seen if you Google

Bring back Planet Lightship to Liverpool followed by 38" degrees
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Old 9th December 2016, 04:41
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I signed the petition but if she's being auctioned there's no point in donating now. Is that right?
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Old 9th December 2016, 11:53
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Bring back Planet Lightship to Liverpool.

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I signed the petition but if she's being auctioned there's no point in donating now. Is that right?
Re you question. I was sent what is on label below on 5th Dec by rtrd Liverpool R/O which tells the Planet Lightship saga and current situation urging people to sign petition. It says looking fees were paid in the end and does not mention the previous appeal for money. 5th Dec was date of launch of 38 Degrees petition.

Planet was also used by a group of rtrd Liverpool R/Os who previously used Fort Perch as their radio station putting on special events.

Probably best to ask Stan (re thread) your question as he was tied up with appeal for funds when the mooring fees were outstanding which according to info on label were paid. Hence why some people think CR&T action unfair.

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http://you.38degrees.org.uk/petition...anet-lightship
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Old 9th December 2016, 12:04
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Planet Lightship - new update

This came through from petition organiser seconds after I posted last one to all who had signed petition. Tsrc It appears the local labour MP now wants to help.


lMany thankys for your fantastic response - almost 700 supporters already!

Liverpool's Lightship is up for sale by C&RT next Friday - so we have exactly Seven days to Save the Planet!

Some good news - Riverside MP Louise Ellman has contacted Merseyside Civic Society to ask how she can help.

That's a tribute to all your superb support this week. Lorna Hughes at the Liverpool Echo have also been great and ran an article on the petition on Wednesday:

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/...rpool-12285922

So please keep sharing and signing!

Remember, one week today it's Black Friday for the Red Planet unless we succeed in getting Allan Leighton, Chair of the Canal & River Trust, to halt the sale and bring her home. Thank you!

(NonConform Design have gifted us this fabulous campaign logo - feel free to share!)
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Old 9th December 2016, 13:10
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Get on to Frank Field, he's a very sensitive and sensible man. MP for Birkenhead obviously.
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Old 9th December 2016, 13:51
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There is an organisation called the National Historic Ships Uk. The official voice for historic vessels of the Untied Kingdom.

http://www.nationalhistoricships.org.uk/index.php

There is a National Register of Historic Vessels (NRHV) on this web site showing 1147 listed vessels covering a complete range of craft. The Planet does not appear on this register and it would appear considering the significance to the Maritime History of this nation that its a significant omission especially as it is the last remaining Light Ship.

This country is too fond of loosing its heritage to the whims of accountants and people whose only desire is too make a profit. The C&RT brief is the canals and rivers not the vessels that use them and they likely have no interest whatsoever in a sea going vessel such as the Planet which means it's all down to money in their eyes.

There are a significant number of people in this country with an awful lot of money, I agree there are many causes for too little resources however perhaps an individual could step up now and prevent the potential lose of the last light vessel to the scrap yard.
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There is an organisation called the National Historic Ships Uk. The official voice for historic vessels of the Untied Kingdom.

http://www.nationalhistoricships.org.uk/index.php

There is a National Register of Historic Vessels (NRHV) on this web site showing 1147 listed vessels covering a complete range of craft. The Planet does not appear on this register and it would appear considering the significance to the Maritime History of this nation that its a significant omission especially as it is the last remaining Light Ship.

This country is too fond of loosing its heritage to the whims of accountants and people whose only desire is too make a profit. The C&RT brief is the canals and rivers not the vessels that use them and they likely have no interest whatsoever in a sea going vessel such as the Planet which means it's all down to money in their eyes.

There are a significant number of people in this country with an awful lot of money, I agree there are many causes for too little resources however perhaps an individual could step up now and prevent the potential lose of the last light vessel to the scrap yard.
Planet isn't the last light ship. Apart from a number preserved either as light ship museums or for other purposes, Trinity House still use nine light ships around the UK coast, although they are no longer manned and are fully automated.

This perhaps explains why Planet is not on the register? It should be noted that there are 20 light ships on the register, of which four are in the historic fleet, all of which are older than the Planet and two that are over 100 years older.

Planet is/was privately owned, so at the end of the day, the present fate is down to no one else but the last owner.
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Planet isn't the last light ship. Apart from a number preserved either as light ship museums or for other purposes, Trinity House still use nine light ships around the UK coast, although they are no longer manned and are fully automated.

This perhaps explains why Planet is not on the register? It should be noted that there are 20 light ships on the register, of which four are in the historic fleet, all of which are older than the Planet and two that are over 100 years older.

Planet is/was privately owned, so at the end of the day, the present fate is down to no one else but the last owner.
Hi Orbitaman - Yes accepted, I should have said 'another' not 'the last'. Appreciate you providing the information on the status on the other light vessels that are still in existence.

Clearly given the situation as it stands the fate of Planet is in the balance and might well come down to how much the City of Liverpool and perhaps the wider maritime community as a whole value it.

Given that someone does have responsibility for the ship and is unable or unwilling then maybe a benefactor will step forward and negotiate with whoever it is that does have responsibility for it and a way forward found that does not end with it going for scrap but rather sees it as an asset for Liverpool and the maritime history of the Mersey.

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Old 10th December 2016, 17:15
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Bring back Planet Lightship to Liverpool

There are now 830 who have signed petition on site

http://you.38degrees.org.uk/petition...anet-lightship

Notice put on site today states that there had been more media coverage. This time in

Business News' @YBNewsLiv:

http://www.ybnews.co.uk/small-busine...ack-liverpool/
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Old 23rd December 2016, 02:21
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Planet lightship update on court case outcome Monday 19th Chester Monday 19th Dec is discussed page 33/34 on Thunderboat site,, llabel below. P39 has the posted article from yesterday's private Eye magazine page 40 titled "what planet are they on". P40 on Thunderboat site has You tube of informative interview with owner after court case.

http://thunderboat.boards.net/thread...sterday?page=1

There are now around 1350 people that have signed the 38 degrees petition. There are more updates on petition site, and MP etc and more labels to newspaper articles. That label is on previous post.
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Please keep us informed Lucy. I posted a reference to the ship on the Facebook Merchant Navy Group which I hope drew some extra support.
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I am not surprised by Liverpool council or whoever runs the city have not supported the gallant efforts to keep the lightship ,they have never helped to preserve our maritime history,they would rather we were swept under the carpet ,as I have posted before the only W.w2 vessel on Merseyside is a cut up German u.boat an insult to our lost men and women of the M.N.
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http://www.canalworld.net/forums/ind...=88671&page=14

It's a long thread and starts here:-

http://www.canalworld.net/forums/ind...howtopic=88671
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There is a photo of Planet at Sharpness docks dated 15th Dec 2016. If you Google
Facebook Association of lighthouse keepers and scroll to
15th Dec, there is a post saying 1000 signed petition and photo of Planet being towed. Same photo as in Liverpool Echo photo. If you click on 1 comment beneath by a Steve Morgan, and it says Planet lightship is at Sharpness docks plus a good photo he took of Planet there at the weekend.

The MNA Dec email newsletter has also included a short piece on Planets plight.
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Planet lightship article is in current private eye magazine no 1435 date 13 Jan (as well as previous edition). This article is on page 38 with title Mercy Mission.

I see Thunderboat site page 43 has some recent blogs giving update.

http://thunderboat.boards.net/thread...sterday?page=1

Also the 38 degrees Petition site still seems to be going with over 1400 signatures


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Old 31st January 2017, 04:29
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What was the outcome of the auction? Is she lost to Liverpool... and her fate?
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Old 31st January 2017, 10:19
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The date for tenders to be submitted for buying ex Liverpool Bar Planet lightship was extended to early March after court case Chester. If you read p43 and before pages of Thunderboat site, link given previously, you can get update of saga.

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The thunderboat site at below label seems to be active again. It went quiet for a while and now more info from p43 to p50.

http://thunderboat.boards.net/thread...terday?page=50

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