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Steamer Tobruk / Oron

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#1 ·
Hello to all!
There's a ship I need help to identify:
Ogliari/Radogna state in their book Navigazione Generale Italiana that the Italian Shipping Co. Societa die Navigazione Sicilia acquired a ship named Tobruk ex Oron (built 1898, 3171 grt) in 1913, broken up in 1923.
I can not find this vessel in Lloyd's Register of 1914/15. Moreover, the ship to which this data fits was the Oron of Elder, Dempster Line, sold only in 1919 and then to a Spanish Company.
Can anyone provide information of the origins of the Tobruk and if she even existed ?
Kind Regards from Hamburg
Helmut
 
#2 ·
Steamer Tobruk/Oron

Afternoon Helmut,in the Elder Dempster history the Oron was built by Barclay, Curle & Co Ltd,Glasgow #412 for British & African Steam Navigation Co.
3171g 2015 n 345.0ft x 42.2ft x 23.0ft
T. 3Cy 23",38" &63" - 45" 300Nhp by the Shipbuilders.
O.N. 108769
Pass. 60 1st class 20 2nd class.
1914-detained at Hamburg.
1919-released to owners and sold in July to Cia Naviera Bidason(Candina y Echevarria, mgrs) Re PAZ DE EPALZA
Dec1921-Wrecked on Hornigas Island, o.v. Swansea - Leghorn.

Ted.
 
#4 ·
Morning Helmut, also from The Ships List website although not a complete list of NGI ships no mention of a vessel Tobruk.I also researched GNI a few years ago and From the information I gathered I have no mention of a vessel Tobruk.The Starke Register of ships built 1898 no mention of it either.

Regards Ted.
 
#6 ·
Dear Ted,

the Tobruk was said to be acquired by Societa di Nav. Sicilia in 1913, after their separation from NGI. If she existed, she was never a NGI-vessel. And she was obviously not the ex-Oron and was presumably not built in 1898, but what was she before she became the Tobruk ?
Kind Regards
Helmut
 
#8 ·
Steamer Tobruk/Oron

Morning Helmut,
Swallow Steel Steam Pass/Cargo Ship O.N. 110748
1004g 474n 240.0ft x 33.0ft x 15.1Ft
T. 3Cy 19.5",32" &52" - 36" by the shipbuilder. 189 Nhp.
11.1899 Comp by Earle's SB & Eng Co Ltd, Hull #459 for Hull & Netherland's SS Co Ltd (J.H.N.Ringrose), Hull as Swallow.
1910-Sold to Banco di Roma, Genoa. Re Roma
1913-Sold to Sicilia Societa di Nav, Palermo. N/un.
1923-Sold to Soc. di Nav Italia, Palermo. Re Tobruk.
1926-Sold to Soc. Italiana di Nav. Florio, Palermo. N/un.
1932-Sold to "Tirrenia"(Flotte Riunite Florio-Cetra), Palermo. N/un.
1934-Broken up in Italy,2nd Quarter.
Information from Starke Register's.
Ted
 
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