[John Ringrose]

I was on the Petroculus in 71 as R/O, went with Cunard then. Didn't like doing the Pursers job and letting the Leckie do Radars.

Anyone know Bill Rutter from the Wirral area married to Betty as I recall he was the Chief R/O at that time.

[Trevorw]

Didn't know Bill Rutter, but as an ex Bluey R/O, please get the name right! It was "Patroculus"!!!!!

[Dave Wilson]

Originally Posted by Trevorw

Didn't know Bill Rutter, but as an ex Bluey R/O, please get the name right! It was "Patroculus"!!!!!

Trevorw,
Never was good enough to sail in BF but I think you should also get the name right. It was 'PATROCLUS'

[makko]

Yes, Patroclus. My grandfather was on the one sunk in 1941 saving a liner from a U-Boot!
Rgds.
Dave R.

[John Ringrose]

Very Very sorry - memory isn't what it was !!!!!!

[Dave Wilson]

Originally Posted by John Ringrose

Very Very sorry - memory isn't what it was !!!!!!

John,

Absolutely no need to apologise. Easily done! I think TrevorW might have something to add.

[Trevorw]

Originally Posted by Dave Wilson

John,

Absolutely no need to apologise. Easily done! I think TrevorW might have something to add.

Serves me right for being a smart ****! I never sailed on that partucular Bluey and memory can play some funny tricks!

[Dave Wilson]

Originally Posted by Trevorw

Serves me right for being a smart ****! I never sailed on that partucular Bluey and memory can play some funny tricks!

Trevor,
The only reason I spotted it was because I am presently plowing my way through Homer's 'Odyssey' for the unteenth time. Closest I ever got to BF is when reading such literature.

All the best

Dave

[makko]

John,
Apologies not needed! We need the mods to change the title perhaps and prune the posts! How rude of me - Welcome aboard! My first vessel was Phrontis, alas it was also her last voyage for BF, sold in Singapore Roads! There are plenty of good photos and BF people here, I hope that you enjoy!
Regards,
Dave R.

[sammigreybeard]

Originally Posted by Trevorw

Didn't know Bill Rutter, but as an ex Bluey R/O, please get the name right! It was "Patroculus"!!!!!

you also should get the name right it was PATROCLUS

[BillH]

Originally Posted by makko

Yes, Patroclus. My grandfather was on the one sunk in 1941 saving a liner from a U-Boot!
Rgds.
Dave R.

Dave,

Interesting about your grandfather. We had until a few years ago, another survivor living in Nottingham. He came to the local branch of the World Ship Society and gave a fascinating talk on his experiences.
His name was Tom Jobling (Lt./Cdr., ret'd)

[EdwardParry]

Hello!
I've just joined Ships Nostalgia and saw the name Patroclus - I did 5 round the world trips on her as 4th Engineer back in late 69/early 71. Yes i do remember Bill Rutter as R/O. I'm a member of the BFA but have yet to get up to Liverpool to one of the monthly meetings. I'm taking early retirement at the end of this month so I might(?!) have some spare time on my hands soon. After Patroclus was sent to Keil for 6 months for final commissioning of Kowloon Bay - I did 2 trips on her then left the sea to get back to real life(???)
Hope to hear from some old shipmates at some time
Cheers
Edward

[gadgee]

Changed to PATROCLUS

[Succour]

An obvious nautical flavour sets off this splendid marquetry wall panel clock taken from the Blue Funnel liner Patroclus. The style is typical of the period made popular by the Festival of Britain in 1951. The marquetry design using exotic woods set into satinwood was still popular, though a remnant of pre-war tastes. It was soon to be replaced in ships' public areas by formica laminates, plastics, mosaics and other cheap, modern, easy-to-clean surfaces.
Even removing the pointers of this lovely face could not stop the advance of time.
Succour.

[R651400]

Didn't the P and H class have a huge cut glass mirror on the main stairwell depicting an Odyssey scene of the ship name?

[DURANGO]

Originally Posted by R651400

Didn't the P and H class have a huge cut glass mirror on the main stairwell depicting an Odyssey scene of the ship name?

I remember well seing the clock from Peleus at the Greenwich maritime museum some years back

[R651400]

Originally Posted by DURANGO

I remember well seing the clock from Peleus at the Greenwich maritime museum some years back

I coasted Jason and the mirror depicted Jason and the Golden Fleece. The placement of the mirror was obviously intended to impress the passengers coming from the dining salon to the passenger accommodation.

[Bill Davies]

Originally Posted by DURANGO

I remember well seing the clock from Peleus at the Greenwich maritime museum some years back

Thanks for that information. 'Peleus' was my last China boat as AB (04/61). I'll take a look next time I am in the area.

[nightjar]

hi - i,m new to this site -just to say i sailed in patroclus 1961 -62 as junior engineer -great days.

[shipmate17]

Hi,
Only one WR Rutter in Wirral phone directory.
cheers.

[CaptJim]

Originally Posted by R651400

Didn't the P and H class have a huge cut glass mirror on the main stairwell depicting an Odyssey scene of the ship name?

remember them well i was 4th mate on the pyrrhus (52) and 3rd mate and 2nd mate on the perseus (56) and the passengers were impressed as were any visitors. certainly do not come like that anymore

[R651400]

Before going deep sea, I coasted Peleus and Jason.
The cut glass mirror depicting Jason and the golden fleece comes to mind from one of the better known schoolday Homer stories.
Story, myth or fact?
Instead of panning for gold in ancient times another method was to lay the fleece of a sheep in the river bed and leave it for a lengthy period of time.
Flecks of gold washed by the current were caught up in the wool.
The fleece was then dried, burned in a fire and the melted gold collected from the ashes.

[colin stevenson]

Dave R
Regarding the last voyage of the Phrontis, I also did the last trip, spending a few weeks in Singapore roads with a skeleton crew before dry docking and handing over to the Greeks.
Colin S

[makko]

Hi Colin,
I remember you well, 4/E! 3E was Jeff, 2E Ken. I was a little disappointed that the trip was so short but a good learning experience for a first trip eng/cadet. The other cadet was John Banks from Croxteth. My first experience of Bay of Biscay - I forget who told me on board but have never forgotten the two phases of seasickness! (Manhandling/repairing winch motors with the Lecky, T/C casing, Sulzer RD exhaust valves, collapsed evap, lots of auxy overhauls, flooded shaft tunnel and those bloody valve chests with the rotten diaphragms etc.)

Saludos from Mexico,
Rgds.
Dave R

[Trident]

[Instead of panning for gold in ancient times another method was to lay the fleece of a sheep in the river bed and leave it for a lengthy period of time.
Flecks of gold washed by the current were caught up in the wool.
The fleece was then dried, burned in a fire and the melted gold collected from the ashes.[/quote]

That was very interesting, once wondered about the golden fleece...If I remember right AH used to print the origin of the ships name on all menu's.....Al