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Old 8th December 2008, 21:52
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At the very end of WW2 I was 3rd Mate on a Brocklebank ship sailing alone down th Portuguese coast. We were doing all of 10 knots and overtaking a small Portuguese steamer. How did I know it was Portuguse? Easy - as was common amonmg neutrals they had a big flag painted on each side and a great big ensign on the after mast jackstaff.

As we passed close-to, I suddenly saw the chap on the bridge hurtle down the bridge ladder - run aft and climb the rigging until he was level with the ensign. He then hung off with one hand and pointed excitedly with the other at the ensign.

Iwondered what on earth he was up to and then glanced aft. On our poop we had a 4.7"gun and there was a gunner on duty there. On the gun there was the gunlayer's powerful telecsope welded to the gun. The bored gunner had decided to have a closer look at this little ship and swivelled the gun around to point at it. The chap on the Portugiese ship had seen this and thought we were going to blast him to smithereens !!

Another memory:
We had called at Gib to drop off stores for our sister ship the MASHUD which had been limpet mined by Italian frogmen. A Commodore Brodie had chosen our ship to take over from an US Commodore of a convoy entering the straits from the US. Imagine the scene - 50 ships steaming past and half a dozen ships joining from Gib. Lots of signalling and manauvering. Into the middle of this chaos came a small Spanish ship of about 1000 tons or so with big flags painted on its side etc, It was deliberatley getting in the way. Copmmodore Brodie got his signaller to contact the RN escrts which were dashing about.
Two destroyers creamed across and went alongside the Spaniard - one on each side. We could see sailors leaping aboard. I quick time they were made fast and went full ahead taking this little ship faster than it had ever gone. They took it miles away from the convoy and came creaming back with "bones in their teeth".
So much for neutrality.

Another memory
Nine months later - in a convoy going westwards through Gib Straits. We had joined it from Taranto in Italy and destined for the States. Over a couple of days the convoy had been formed into just 2 columns with the outer columns dropping back and forming behind the inner one. A grand sight to see two colmns strctching from horizon to horizon.e The convoy speed was adjusted so that we went through the Straits at night. On the 12 to 4 where I was on watch with the 2nd Mate and with the master on the bridge and all a bit tense there was suddenly a big searchight shining up and down the ships from Tarifa. This went on for a little while and then an RN cruiser sailed into the beam of light. All its heavy guns suddenly elevated and swung around to aim right into the beam.
The light suddenly went off. It never came on again.
I imagine the RN would have blasted it to hell if it hadn't gone out .
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Old 8th December 2008, 22:11
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Keep them coming Sidsal the recalls and stories from the likes of you who served in the MM during WW2 are in the real realms of gold.
I suggest that you and others of this generation be encouraged to record all you can on SN as it is irreplaceable history.
I would even go as far as to suggest to the moderators that they set up a forum specifically for WW2 to capture these stories in one place.


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Old 8th December 2008, 22:21
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I started my sea career after WW2, some of the men I sailed with had been POWs others had experienced the war, I could never get any of them to open up and talk about the war.
It is really great to read your posts and get first hand knowledge of some of the things that happened during that sad time in our history.
Please keep posting your experiences.

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Old 8th December 2008, 23:23
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"bones in their teeth".

it has been years and years since i last heard this................
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Bob and Robert you have joined the queue in asking WW2 seamen to tell of their experiences..
I cannot understand why there is only an occasional posting from those men..
We have been trying for many years to gain recognition for the merchant navy so why take your stories to the grave with you?
We all want to hear of them and so will your grandchildren!!
Most of my war experiences are recorded in this wonderful site in 'WW2 Convoys' - not to portray myself in heroics -all wartime seamen had experiences and all were heroes..
Our losses were horrific - one in three merchant seamen lost their lives doing their duty and a job that they loved.
So again I ask you lads who sailed the ships during hostilities to let us know of it.. you deserve recognition!!
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Old 8th December 2008, 23:57
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It was only recently that I came across the post "The Clouds begin to Gather" which is a wonderful insight into the daily routines of a WW2 Merchant Mariner..
Lets hope that we can encourage more and, as I previously said, group them in their own forum

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Old 9th December 2008, 17:10
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Great to have the response from you chaps about WW2 memories. I can recall those times with accuracy but I can't remember what I did last week !!
(Ask 'er indoors !)
Of course at 17 years of age it was a great big adventure with no real appreciation of danger.
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Old 9th December 2008, 17:38
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I think perhaps some of the memories these men had are so painful that they are trying to forget. I always when the subject regarding the war arises remind people that the soldier would have been able to fight without the men of the MN, similarly this country would have been starved in to submission if it was not for the men sailing under the Red Duster.
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Old 9th December 2008, 20:04
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I started my sea career after WW2, some of the men I sailed with had been POWs others had experienced the war, I could never get any of them to open up and talk about the war.
It is really great to read your posts and get first hand knowledge of some of the things that happened during that sad time in our history.
Please keep posting your experiences.

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"I could never get any of them to open up and talk about the war". This experience is so common; it's almost as if it had become taboo.
On the day I arrived in Aden to take up my piloting career in 1955, I was met off the Strathmore by Graham Allen who was ex Blue Funnel and was now an Aden pilot. As I was single at that time, and would consequently not be entitled to a pilot's flat or bungalow, Graham, who had been on U.K. leave and was awaiting the arrival of his wife and small son, they having been delayed from returning with him to Aden, offered to put me up.
So, I was only too glad to accept that offer which extended for three months. During that time neither of us exchanged anything whatsoever about our war-time experiences, and it wasn't until I had left Aden a couple of years later that I learned anything of his! And that occurred when I purchased a copy of Roskill's, A Merchant Fleet in War. In that book there are three pages recounting Graham's experiences after the sinking in mid- Atlantic of the Blue Funnel, Rhexenor by U217 when Graham found himself being taken aboard the U.Boat in which, during the three weeks he was aboard, he spent his 21st birthday!
For myself, I always refer to my couple of years at sea in the war as my miss-spent youth; an expression that conveys a completely different meaning these days! I feel quite envious about it occasionally but I do have an Atlantic Star, an Italy Star and a Burma Star to show for it, and no scars! You do need a bit of luck in this life which is something that Graham missed out on. Graham is still with us and is at present recovering from a heart attack.

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Old 9th December 2008, 20:49
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Dear Hugh Ferguson
Did you know Owen John Edwards who was a pilot in Aden?. He was there when the Brits were turfed out. He was ex Blue Star. He was a next door neighbour and a year or 2 younger than me ( I am 82). The only reason he went to sea was when he saw me in my brass buttons and went on the Conway at the very end of WW2. Poor chap died a young man. He was a maths teacher in Bangor N Wales and separated from his wife. Quite tragic really.
I too had a charmed war but still got the Atlantic, Italy and Burma Stars like you.
Gave up the sea in 1950 with a Mate's ticket - cloud on lung. I've had a varied career ashore but I have been very fortunate insofar as my nephew was a skipper of posh yachts and I have circumnavigated under sail with him in the 70's - 80's and included 5 months on a refit in NZ.
God has been good to me, my word !
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An explanation may be that in the years following the end of the war there were few individual incidents to talk of by seamen - as all had experiences and they were seldom mentioned in general conversation.
In later years there were less of us and then came the questions..
'Oh,you were in the Merchant Navy - how was it?'
That is if they knew of the Merchant Navy!!
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Old 9th December 2008, 21:18
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Dear Sid, No, I didn't know O.J.Edwards because I left for other pastures in Nov.1956. But Graham would still have been there: I'll ask him next time we have a chat. All the best, Hugh.
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Old 9th December 2008, 21:50
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A late American philosopher - Thoreau said once - "Most men lead lives of quiet desparation" - and that pretty well sums me up. The only way I cope is by looking at the funny side of life. One would go mad with all the bad news which surrounds us if one couldn't see the funny side of life.
Here's another little snippet.
In 1944 when I was apprentice on Brocklebank's old MAIHAR ( 1917 vintage) we loaded acargo of coal at Lourenco Marques in Portuguese East Africa ( now called Maputo). We sailed in a small convoy of similar old ships. I remember there was a Court Line tramp and a Ropner's and Larrinaga. We called in Mombasa for fuel - then Aden for orders - then Suez. On going through the canal we were told we were headed for Sicily and that we were to be the Commodore ship ( the master Bill Jeans being the Commodore). As we passed slowly through Port Said, naval launches came alongside from which a barrage balloon flew. They transferred one to each ship as she passed and these were made fast to the mainmast. In all there were about nine ships so , as dusk fell this little convoy, escorted by two or three small corvettes or destroyers ( I forget which) sailed out into the Meddy towards Sicily. I think it took about four days and in that time the balloons lost air and started to collapse. In the fresh breeze they started to give an aerobatic display, diving and weaving about, rising upwards and shooting down. Eventually they would drop down, bounce on the sea and shoot up again. It was most entertaining to see this until one broke loose and rose up and up and up, expanding in the rareified air. Then it would burst and the bundle of fabric would come tumbling down into the sea. all the balloons went this way.
On the last night before getting to Sicily ,Captain Bill Jeans hoisted a flag signal which urged all ships to observe a strict blackout. It was a cloudy moonless night. The gunners kept watch at various points and one station was on the boat deck where there was a Lewis gun. Also on the boat deck was a device for shooting up a rocket flare. That is, the rocket would shoot skywards, a parachute would open and a flare would descend slowly illuninating the sea all around. This device could be operated by means of a lever from the bridge ,which by wire and pulleys would set off the rocket.
Unfortunately , at the change of watch at midnight, the gunner going on duty in the dark, tripped across the wire and set off the rocket.
The litte convoy was well and truly lit. Captain Jeans was beside himself. He clasped his hands over his head and did a little dance of frustration about the bridge wing.
Fortunately there were no subs about and the flare dropped into the sea and it was dark again.
After Catania we went to Taranto in the heel of Italy where much of the Italian fleet was sunk at its moorings after the Fleet Air Arm attack - a grand site.
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Hello Sid -
An interesting memory from you and for me.
I was in Dallington Court at Lourenco Marques in 1946 and we loaded coal for Trieste and Venice.
Do you remember how the coal was loaded into the ship?
With us - it was a large cylinder on the quay and it was filled by many men,women and children bearing baskets of coal on their heads.
They ascended ladders and emptied the baskets into the cylinder and when full the cylinder was lifted by crane - suspended over a hold and emptied.It was a ten days job.
An account of the voyage is in SN Directory - Court Line Dallington Court..
More of your anecdotes please Sid..
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Hello Sid -
An interesting memory from you and for me.
I was in Dallington Court at Lourenco Marques in 1946 and we loaded coal for Trieste and Venice.
Do you remember how the coal was loaded into the ship?
With us - it was a large cylinder on the quay and it was filled by many men,women and children bearing baskets of coal on their heads.
They ascended ladders and emptied the baskets into the cylinder and when full the cylinder was lifted by crane - suspended over a hold and emptied.It was a ten days job.
An account of the voyage is in SN Directory - Court Line Dallington Court..
More of your anecdotes please Sid..
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Dear Stan
When we were there the coal was loaded by hoist. Big S African railway waggons were lifted in the hoist and tipped into the holds - big dust job !!
We anchored there for several days awaiting a berth and anchored next to us was the Italian liner Gerusalem. She was stranded there as she would be torpedoed if she left. It was quite stange to watch our enemies close to.
The British Consul came on board and gathered the crew together and warned us not to go certain bars which he named because German spies were known to operate. Of course the lads made a note of these and made a bee-line for them.
We went to a cinema where the Gaumont British News was shown and there was footage of us blasting the Germans to bits. Looking around there were all sorts of glum faces glowering at us. The Alfred Holt ship Sarpedon was there and a chap EHP Williams was an apprentice on her. As she was likely to go home before us I asked him to take a letter to my parents and post it when he got home. I wrote a full account of all my voyage and when I got home months later I asked my mother if she had had the letter. She produced an envelope with lots of strips of paper in it which were meaningless. Obviously the censor had got hold of it and cut out nearly everything.
The Portuguese police were very cruel and I saw them beat up some American seamen who were tiddly. One night we went to a casino and found a young DEMS gunner missing. We found him in a dark alley alongside being assaulted by 2 Germans who were trying to extract info from him. We intervened and the police arrived and chased us back to the ship. I remember us hurtling across a great big flower bed on a roundabout near the docks and hurling clods at them. We barged past the dock guards and got aboard. We were not able to go ashore after that and a couple of police would patrol alongside, with their truncheons dangling. As we went along the deck we would hurl lumps of coal at them !!
Happy days !
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Old 10th December 2008, 13:23
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Hi Sidsal,
It was interesting reading your article on WW2 neutrality.You say the Mashud was damaged by Italian frogmen with a limpet mine, this was a common occurence during the war.These italian frogmen came on human torpedoes (human Charriots) all the way from the nearby Spanish port of Algeciras. There in Algeciras (neutral) a half sunken Italian oil tanker was where these very brave frog men used to leave from.This vessel was equipped with workshops etc. Allied vessels anchored in thr Bay of Gibraltar were prey from the Italians ,the Royal Navy increased its patrols in the bay and anti submarine steel nets were placed in both Gibraltar harbour entrances to protect shipping inside the Gibraltar harbour.The RN Comander in charge of dealing with the Italians was called Comander Crab, My late father used to work close to the boom defence in GIbraltar and he witnessed the capture of one of the charriots which I believe is held at the Imperial war museum in London.I cannot remember in my information that the vessel was blown up or the damage that was caused to these frogmen was so great that no more operations were carried out.

This Cmdr Crab after the war, was based in Portsmouth where the then Soviet navy payed a courtesy visit to UK, it appears he was carrying out an underwater dive of the soviet warship and never came up alive.

There was a film made of the Italian frogmen and the tremendous work carried out in Gib to protect shipping which gathered here for convoys to the Med or Atlantic bearing in mind that the invasion of North Africa took place from this famous Rock.
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I remember the barrage balloons at Harwich during the war years, some on ships others shore based. Whenever there was a thunderstorm some would get struck by lightening and pieces of fabric all over the streets. Many pf the women (my mother included ) used to pick them up and make shopping bags out of them, recycling before Blair or Brown were born.
This perhaps, was the more humorous side of war.
I also remember men from the RN and MN that were regulars at my parents public house, they would suddenly stop coming and then we hear of another ship lost.
School assembly was often a tearful time as we asked to say prayers for one of the pupils (not a mistake) as his or her mother had had the dreaded telegram.
I can only presume for Stan and Sid there were lighter moments in order to keep their sanity and keep going to do the job without which we would all have starved, their bravery knows no bounds.
From accounts written in books by men that were actually there, from Stan and Sid and Hugh sharing their experiences with us on SN, we know this country owes them one helluva debt of gratitude.

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Yes - it was the Italian tanker OLTERRA that was the mother ship for the frogmen at Algeciras. I saw her burnt out hulk in Suez after the war, SShe was only small - about 4K tons I should think. When we were at Gib there was an MTB patrolling the harbour 24/7 dropping miature depth charges. Gib was a havinbg place then. I have a memory which will last forever of going ashore and having a mixed grill with 2 EGGS - the first decent meal for years.
In one of the bars there was a small mezzanine floor where a small orchestra played - it included a couple of women. There was barbed wire across it to keep the drunken matelots off. There was a small ferry type vessel which delivered crews back on board ships and we had a derrick rigged and a cargo net> When it came alongside the passed-out lads were placed in the net and hoisted aboard.
Happy days
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PS I don't know whether it's true but I heard that when they realised what was afoot the RN sped over to Algeciras and stormed the Olterra and towed her over to Gib. The Spaniards were very pro-German then.
PPS Commander Crab was an old Conway chap like me !
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Old 10th December 2008, 16:57
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Interesting your experiences with barrage balloons !
I'm afraid it is embarassing to be thought of as a hero as nothing is further from the truth. I had a wonderfully interesting time with hardly a shot fired in anger. The convoys were a great thing - so many interesting moments on watch - so much to see. And when we got to places there were usually lots of wrecks and twisted metal. After the war it became so boring sailing alone. I have been on a few cruises and it seems even more boring now what with separation lanes keeping passing ships miles apart.
I am, also of the view that this instant contact with mobile phones is a mixed blessing.
When I was in Brocks just after the war I was 3rd Mate in Colombo and we sailed at about 5pm. I was on watch 8 to 12 as we headed south round Dondra head for Calcutta. No gyro then , so took a star bearing to work out the error on the magnetic compass. When I consulted the Nautical Almanac I realised it was my 21st birthday. I had forgotten all about it and had no mail at Colombo which was not unusual. I cringe a bit at the big fuss made nowadays on 21st's.
Miserable old sod , aren't I ?
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Sid,
You certainly have a very good memory, yes it was the Olterra, Algeciras then was full of German spies.The bar you mentioned could have been either the old Trocadero or Universal. The film that covered the operations of the Olterra was titled "The silent enemy".
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Sid, Reference your enquiry about Owen John Edwards:- Dugie McNab (an SN member) e.mailed me this, "Yes, I knew John Edwards. He had come (to Aden) about two years ahead of me and I rode with him many times during my training. One of my early impressions was berthing a Portuguese frigate at No.1 head in, and John's charm trying to con a bottle of Portuguese wine from the skipper. He left about a year or two before independence in Oct.1967. He had a nice wife, Margaret, and two children and I had heard that they were divorced a few years later, which came as a surprise to us".
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Thanksfor info !
I met his wife to and she was a nice woman - from Eccles near Manchester. Shame they split up.
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At Gib the RFA tanker Denbydale was heavily damaged by a limpet mine placed by Italian submarine Scire on 19.9.1941...she was on the Detached Mole and broke her back..
Mid 1944 my pal Danny Griffin and other seamen were sent to Gib to sign on her...Only on arrival did they find that she was a fuelling hulk..
They returned home from Gib 14 months later.
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I've succeeded in resurrecting the only photograph I possess of my time at sea during the war. We had just arrived in Calcutta in March 1945 and had been away 8 months already. I had the photo taken to send home in order to reassure my folks that I was still alive and recovered, more or less, from a couple of weeks in hospital suffering from Bacillary dysentry.
I had alarmed my folks in my previous letter having told them that we were having a new funnel fitted. They immediately imagined that the ship had been damaged by attack. That was not the case. What was needed was a casing around the existing funnel to get better ventilation in the stokehold.
We, in the Empire Capulet had not made a good start to what was to be our next ten months in the Bay of Bengal; our fridge had broken down and food in Bengal was difficult after the famine of 1945. We were a Glen Line managed Ministry of War Transport ship and as such were not entitled to any service victuals. This got so bad that in one of our three times to Rangoon we anchored near a supply ship (just up from Australia) and the old man sent the Chief Steward, Jack Hearst, and us middies away in a boat to bum some of the basics, flour and sugar!
The bad food and the climate combined to keep us all in a poor state of health, and on one of our returns from Rangoon the old man had a doctor on board to see what could be done about it. No blood tests were done but he advised a course of injections of vitamin B. At this stage of the voyage tempers and morale were beginning to fray and I remember the chief Steward (in whose room this medication took place) saying to me, "why don't you die"). He had had enough as indeed we all had. I don't hold it against him: he had been in the ship throughout the Normandy landings (when I joined her in Newport just after that, she had damage which we had repaired in St.John N.B.) and he was going to remain in her until they arrived back in Liverpool in October 1946!!
I then got myself into hot water swearing at the captain. The occasion was in the late evening of stinking hot day in Calcutta and we were loading fresh water in No.3 deep tanks. There had been a problem and I had to call out the Chinese carpenter who had been smoking dope which didn't help the situation. The old man getting a breath of air leaned over his rail and offered his advice-I exploded and very ill-advisedly shouted back at him, "what the bloody hell do you think we're trying to do!" Next morning I was courts-martialled and condemned to various punishments to which the chief officer, Geoffrey Drake, took a compassionate view as he didn't like the captain either.
And so our wretched existance continued but to nothing like the degree the soldiers of the 14th Army, (whom we often came into contact with) suffered, infinitely more dangerous and uncomfortable than ours was.
At the time I can remember accepting our lot more or less as it was and it is only in later years that I recall remembering it now as much worse than we thought of it then. My old school and shipmate pal, Peter Edwards, wrote to me some 14 years ago-a couple of years before he died in Canada in 1996-saying, it was a good job we had been young and resilient. It sure was!
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What a miserable time you had ! Seafaring, I believe, consists of extremes - extremes of pleasure and extremes of misery. I believe Calcutta and Rangoon were pretty shitty places to be in anyway.
Something like flying. There is a saying about flying - " Far better to be down here wishing you were up there - than being up there wishing you were down here" !!
Happy days nevertheless !
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