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Old 13th October 2005, 21:42
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Headline Shipping Co of Belfast

any info on any Headline Shipping Co., of Belfast especially Orlock Head
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Old 14th October 2005, 05:50
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This company was also known as the Ulster Steamship Company and G. Heyn & Sons. It was first registered in 1877 and sold its last ship in 1979 although the Heyn Group may still exist.
The second "Orlock Head" was built by Dublin Dockyard in 1921, 1563 gross tons, dimensions 240.0 x 36.3 x 19.3 feet, powered by a triple expansion steam engine. March 1940 collided with and sank the "Clan Stuart" off Start Point.21 July 1940 sailed London for Liverpool in convoy OA190 and became a straggler. 28 July attacked by German aircraft and abandoned on fire in 58.44N 04.21W. Four crew died, three seriously injured, all were landed at Scrabster by the rescue vessel "Star of Liberty". The first "Orlock Head" was sunk by U34 in 1916. (Source, 'Head Line' by W. J. Harvey).
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Old 29th October 2005, 10:38
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Head Line

Have a wee look here
http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/lines/ulster.html

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Old 29th October 2005, 11:02
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Ahoy,

You mean this one?

Orlock HeadC5156324036.3B1912.20Coaster. Ulster SS Co, Belfast (G. Heyn);
28.7.40 set on fire by enemy aircraft, later sank 58.44N 04.21W
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Old 21st February 2006, 23:01
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Hi there,
Was looking for some family history and "stumbled" here.
My grandpa was Capt.for G.Heyn & Sons "Ulster Steamship Co.".Capt.A.Quail.
For me,as I was told, it has always been the "Head Company".
Unfortunately he died when I was a small child so history was lost.
Just a bunch of photos and some pieces of a very vast puzzle...a life at sea,from childhood to his mid fifties.Trough a war fought from the start to the end.
Does anibody know were I can find other pieces of this puzzle?
Or knows somebody that shares some of the same pieces?
Has anybody of the company emploiees ever thought of opening a company web page with the history of it?
Thanking you in advance my best regards
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Old 22nd February 2006, 01:12
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welcome boboman i cant help you but im sure you will find that plenty of others on thisite can and will help if they can good luck in your search
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Old 22nd February 2006, 19:35
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Oh,yes,I recall the Headline well.I signed on the Fanad Head In Cartaret N.J.in1944 I think.Loaded with munitions and other artefacts of destruction she discharged in several Italian ports then proceeded to Casablanca to load for Philadelphia.I paid off in Casablanca and went seeking Humphrey and Co.The sailors were mostly from the North and Ilse Magee whilst the firemen came from the South.Not the best situation for a peaceful trip regardless of other considerations.like U-boats and such.Irecall one occasion when,after a night ashore the jolly firemen rolled a bale of kerosene soaked waste,on fire of course,down the ladder into the sailors fo-cstle which was in the aft tweendecks.Fortunately,being neither fish nor fowl I escaped most of the mayhem.Apart from that she was a well-found vessel,a coal burner,but the grub was of the best.Something rare in tramps of those days.Bacon and eggs(plural) every day with soda bread.Those were the days.Pierhead jumper.PS.The funnel emblem on those ships was the red hand of Ulster.Very appropriate I thought considering the sorry history of the place. P.J.
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Old 24th February 2006, 19:29
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Thanks Pierhead,
This it's what i'm looking for "Real life in the Head Lines" & of course a bit of family history that still doesn't come through do.
From what I'm digging out from the net the History (& ventures) of the company It's getting very interesting.
I was thincking of getting all the possible news&pics and build a web page and in the case why not put everything on paper?
What do you thinck of it mates?
Any crew that want's to join in aboard the S.S Memory Head?
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Old 25th February 2006, 18:58
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Oh,yes.Another snippet about the headline.There I was after a hard days graft on what I considered to be just an old Irish tramp,Lighting up a smoke on the fore deck.Here comes the mate"Put that bloody thing out.We don't allow smoking on the foredeck in these ships" Well------.Pierhead jumper.
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Old 25th February 2006, 19:22
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Head Line -G Heyn & Sons Belfast

I attach a photo of Carrigan Head leaving Glasgow around 1959/60.
An 8271 grt single screw turbine steamer built in 1958 by Harland & Wolff, Belfast. In 1972 she was sold and renamed Chrysanthi of Cyprus, renamed Rysan in 1980 she was broken up at Gadani Beach in same year. Somewhat surprising for a steam ship to last that long when the oil crisis of the early 1970's saw wholesale scrapping of such ships.
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Old 26th February 2006, 11:56
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Hi
Recently found an old scrap book I kept as a kid before I went to sea. In the early 60s the Belfast Telgraph used to print a weekly report on the "Movements of Head Line ships" - I think it was on a Thursday. I've typed a copy from October 1960 (I still have the origional cutting) and this gives an insite into the Head Line at that time.
Ballygally Head (Capt Seaton) Arr Belfast Oct 23 from Antwerp anf Ghent. Sails Oct 25 via glasgow to load at Antwerp and Ghent.
Bengore Head (Capt Quail) Due Helsinki Oct 25 to load for Belfast and Dublin. Completes at Hamina Oct 31.
Carrigan Head (Capt Haddock) Expected to sail from Liverpool Oct 27 for Seven Islands then Montreal to load for Liverpool and Belfast.
Fair Head (Capt Greene) Sailed from Montreal Oct 24 for Toronto Detroit Chicago and Milwaukee
Innishowen Head (Vapt Clarke) Sailed Wilmington NC Oct 24 for Belfast dublin and Liverpool
Ramore Head (Capt Davey) Due Belfast Oct 27 hence Dublin and Liverpool
Rathlin Head (Capt Stark)Expected from Dalhousie Oct 25 for Montreal and Port Alfred to complete loading for Belfast Dublin and Liverpool
Roonagh Head Sailed Glasgow Oct 25 for Detriot and Chicago
Torr Head Expected to sail from Montreal Oct 25 for Liverpool and Belfast.

The Carrigan Head holds a special place in my life history because as a kid I always wanted to go to sea although there were no family ties. As the time drew close to declare my intentions to my parents (who didnt quite know how to handle this youthful dream) unbeknown to me they arranged for a visit to the Carrigan Head one Saturday. This was with the Engineering Superintendent (a friend of a family friend) who was under instructions to make the life style appear as grim as possible and so put me off and thinking on another career path. This guy failed miserably and I came home stating that was definitely for me and I was off to the School of Navigation.
From there on it was full ahead through school and on to the Ellerman Lines
(better routes than continuous N Atlantic) and I never regreted it,

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Old 26th February 2006, 17:19
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Hello Fergus,
I'm Capt.Quail's grandson and sailing for a journey in the past,it would be for me very helpfull for what I'm trying to do to have a copy of that original cut out.
Do you thinck it would be possible for you to send me a copy of it,can you scan?
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Old 26th February 2006, 18:59
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Hi Boboman
Unfortunately cannot scan (must drag myself into 21st Century some time).
I have in fact got three Head Line cuttings dating back to Autumn 1960 with Capt Quail listed on all three as Master of Bengore Head - all Baltic trips.
I'll drop you an e mail re getting photo copies to you

Rgds

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Old 27th February 2006, 14:49
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Hi Fergus,
Thanks a lot,will appreciate.
I ve received your Email answer asap.
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Old 22nd March 2006, 17:18
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Hi
Recently found an old scrap book I kept as a kid before I went to sea. In the early 60s the Belfast Telgraph used to print a weekly report on the "Movements of Head Line ships" - I think it was on a Thursday. I've typed a copy from October 1960 (I still have the origional cutting) and this gives an insite into the Head Line at that time.
Ballygally Head (Capt Seaton) Arr Belfast Oct 23 from Antwerp anf Ghent. Sails Oct 25 via glasgow to load at Antwerp and Ghent.
Bengore Head (Capt Quail) Due Helsinki Oct 25 to load for Belfast and Dublin. Completes at Hamina Oct 31.
Carrigan Head (Capt Haddock) Expected to sail from Liverpool Oct 27 for Seven Islands then Montreal to load for Liverpool and Belfast.
Fair Head (Capt Greene) Sailed from Montreal Oct 24 for Toronto Detroit Chicago and Milwaukee
Innishowen Head (Vapt Clarke) Sailed Wilmington NC Oct 24 for Belfast dublin and Liverpool
Ramore Head (Capt Davey) Due Belfast Oct 27 hence Dublin and Liverpool
Rathlin Head (Capt Stark)Expected from Dalhousie Oct 25 for Montreal and Port Alfred to complete loading for Belfast Dublin and Liverpool
Roonagh Head Sailed Glasgow Oct 25 for Detriot and Chicago
Torr Head Expected to sail from Montreal Oct 25 for Liverpool and Belfast.

The Carrigan Head holds a special place in my life history because as a kid I always wanted to go to sea although there were no family ties. As the time drew close to declare my intentions to my parents (who didnt quite know how to handle this youthful dream) unbeknown to me they arranged for a visit to the Carrigan Head one Saturday. This was with the Engineering Superintendent (a friend of a family friend) who was under instructions to make the life style appear as grim as possible and so put me off and thinking on another career path. This guy failed miserably and I came home stating that was definitely for me and I was off to the School of Navigation.
From there on it was full ahead through school and on to the Ellerman Lines
(better routes than continuous N Atlantic) and I never regreted it,

Fergus 62
Would the superintendent have been Mr Walshe? Regards Colin
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Old 22nd March 2006, 22:29
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Smile Head Line

Colin
Sorry mate, I was a dewy eyed 15 yr old at the time (45 years ago) - I cannot remember his name now.
All the best
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Old 22nd March 2006, 23:47
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i sailed on the Inishowenhead of the Head lines in 1971
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Old 25th March 2006, 14:22
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any info on any Headline Shipping Co., of Belfast especially Orlock Head
There is a history of Head LIne (G. Heyn & Sons Ltd) by W. J. Harvey and published by the World Ship Society in 1990.

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Old 25th March 2006, 14:33
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Before the days of the Head Line, was there a Lord Line of Belfast ?
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Old 25th March 2006, 14:41
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It was Head/Lord Line later was Head/Donaldson Line.
Head Line was a fore-runner of Port Line via JP Corry who still exist in Belfast as a timber merchants. Head Lines history is very complicated & verrrryyy interesting.
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Old 25th March 2006, 14:51
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In 1916 The "Irish Shipowners" Co Ltd managed by Thomas Dixon & Sons (The LORD LINE) came together with the "Ulster Steamship" Co. Ltd and thus the Lord Line merged into the Head Line.
There were ships called Lord Antrim, Lord Downshire,Lord Glentoran,Lord Londonderry,and Lord O'Neill

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Old 25th March 2006, 14:55
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Before the days of the Head Line, was there a Lord Line of Belfast ?
Lord Line was founded by Thomas Dixon not sure of the date. The company was Irish Shipowners Co. Ltd known as Lord Line.
1917 the Irish Shipowners Co. Ltd went into voluntary liquidation and sold the two remaining ships to the Head Line they wre Lord Antrim and Lord Downshire
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Old 26th March 2006, 15:47
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many thanks fo information regarding "Lord Line"
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Old 8th August 2006, 08:41
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Ahoy,

Found the Fair Head, here her details:

Fair Head[1573 GT] built in 1957 at the Arnhem Shipbuilding Co, for the Ulster Steamship Co.-Belfast.
She was inaugurated the Head Line's service from the U.K. to the Great Lakes trade.
Specially strengthened for ice navigation over her whole length and in addition has an ice-knife at her stern, rather unusual for British ships,her equipment includes special wharping and mooring gear required for passing through the locks above Montreal.
LOA:258'
B:42'
D:18'
Eng:Werkspoor-Lugt diesel of 1800 bhp at 164 r.p.m with direct drive gives her a speed of 13˝ kn.
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Old 8th August 2006, 12:28
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Two more of the fleet

Roonagh Head : Harland & Wolff 1952 9211 d.w.
Rathlin Head : Harland & Wolff 1953 9381 d.w

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