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Old 2nd May 2010, 15:40
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Languishing and unloved Bluie

On Friday last during a site induction I got talking to an former MN engineer who had recently returned after a long contract at Huai Power Station in Hubie Provence in China. He told me that there is a former Blue Funnel or Glen Line vessel (A or D Class) laid up in a cutting on the Yellow River.

She is in PRC livery and although laid up awaiting her final fate for at least 5 years she is still in remarkedly fine fettle. Her after derricks are still flying . He passed her twice a day and night with never a soul sighted nor a light burning. The locals do not talk about her other than agree her longevity at the cutting and that she is haunted by a spirit.

I would venture to advance that with a sum of K100 (maximum) we could save her and return her to Liverpool or London. Nostagia personified !!!!!

Apart from the more obvious considerations (crewing and insurance) what else would we need to consider. Discuss.

I'm up for it before I get too old.! We would need a Master, Mates & Engineers etc. and perhaps an AB that could cook!

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Old 2nd May 2010, 15:48
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A lovely pipe dream, John!
Sign me up, I'll go as 4th to get the really shotty jobs! Maybe my old fella would be willing! I'd pay my own way but unfortunately couldn't make a meaningful monetary donation. Let's see what transpires...................A little dreaming never hurt anybody!
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Old 2nd May 2010, 16:01
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No photographs I'm afraid. The cutting is inside the PS perimeter and the old protocols re photography remain.

I must say,however, that the two hour induction lasted for 3+ . He could confirm a lot and certainly no bull about it.

He also told me that shipping down river is mostly PRC flagged vessels with coal unloaded at the lower points of the Yellow river for lightering and onward travel to the PS.

Yes, I would love to develop this dream and could offer a not too unsubstantial sum to bring to fruition.

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Old 2nd May 2010, 16:14
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When you say K100, I presume you mean 100,000 as opossed to 100 Hong Kong pounds?
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Old 2nd May 2010, 16:27
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Old 2nd May 2010, 18:58
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John,
I heard about an old 'A' boat still afloat in some Chinese backwater about ten years ago, I was told it was possibly the Demodocus which had been sold to Chinese interests in 1973 and named Hungsia, then in 1979 became Hong Qi 137, Bureau of Maritime Administration Canton.
Sign me up, I'll go as AB, and maybe get my old cabin!
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Old 2nd May 2010, 19:13
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Interesting Pat - there may be a connection here. I shall see the chap concerned when I return to site next week and see if i can get any more information from him. The job in Hubie is still going with a few ex pats there.

Thanks for the info.

Two AB's so far. Any more?

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Old 2nd May 2010, 19:43
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Interesting Pat - there may be a connection here. I shall see the chap concerned when I return to site next week and see if i can get any more information from him. The job in Hubie is still going with a few ex pats there.

Thanks for the info.

Two AB's so far. Any more?

BW
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I'll go as Mess Peggy

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Too old to go clambering about these days, can't cook, don't drink, but would like to go back to one of my first jobs at sea. Can do a trick at the wheel and keep a keen lookout.

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Old 2nd May 2010, 19:50
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Do you think an approach to the Philip Holt Trust may be in order ? the Trust supports the Blue Funnel Association and the Nestorians so I imagine that they would be sympathetic to the idea. Perhaps the Blue funnel Association maybe able to help.

According to Ships in Focus the Demopdocus was broken up in 1982.

I think the ship may be the Dolius she was sold to the Chinese, became the Hong Qul 119 and later the Zhan Dou 51, was deleted off Lloyds List in 1991. But that does not mean she was scrapped.

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Old 2nd May 2010, 22:30
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I will explore. It would require a massive effort but then again I'm sure its possible


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Old 3rd May 2010, 18:43
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I sailed on Glenfruin (Ex Dolius in 1971). She did indeed go to Chinese interests (in '77 ) with her last (reported) change of name as indicated in 1984. We may have something to distill here.

Regards to your Old Man.

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Old 3rd May 2010, 18:52
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If they'd allow me a temporary medical cert, I'll go as AB as well.

It would be excellent to see a vessel representing the UK MN and let's face it, the Yanks do this in big style and make it pay. The thought of an active ship being available for UK and near Continetal tours / adventure training / etc etc is exciting.

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Old 3rd May 2010, 19:43
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Not so sure we need ENG 1 if its a project. Very very early stages as yet. I need to get more (as much) info from the chap on site. I would have no plans for future tours or trips- just to bring her back for the next generation and us old timers. The Yanks as you say still have and protect their Jeremiah O'Brian .

I would welcome additional comments from Deck and Engine room depts re engine status , navigational requirements etc. Its 27 years since I packed up and so much has changed in that time.

Thanks for the offer. Will keep you posted.

SM has not volunteered his engine room skills.

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Old 3rd May 2010, 19:57
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Keep your memories as good ones and don't venture into a world you know nothing about.
You will lose everything and for what?. A clapped out, rusty old Bluie
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Old 3rd May 2010, 20:07
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Sorry Octavius - I do know a little about the China, but only from the deck perspective.

That is why I seek wider counsel on matters I know nothing of. Shipping law was not one of the mandatory units I had to study.
Thanks for your contribution.

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Old 3rd May 2010, 20:10
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If it's an "A" boat,can at least volunteer some knowledge of engine room and sytems.......

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Old 3rd May 2010, 20:18
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The world is littered by those who have lost their **** pursuing nostalgia.
I was too long in Ship Management not to know that what you are trying to undertake will come to nothing except tears.You do not need a degree in Admiralty Law either, common sense will do.
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Old 3rd May 2010, 20:22
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Fine - if nothing comes of it . It may never take off. But no tears either way.

A pretty sharp retort no less.

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Old 3rd May 2010, 20:22
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Malcom McLeman spent some years trying to find the "Qing He Cheng", formerly Glenfalloch, with a view to bringing her back as an MN memorial. It came to nothing in the end, but he might have a few tips as to how to go about it. His email addy used to be malcolm.mcleman@free.fr but whether it's still live, I don't know. The search seems to have been abandoned in mid-2006.
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Old 3rd May 2010, 20:24
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I would say direct
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Old 3rd May 2010, 20:27
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Thanks Hank. The "search" would not be required for this one as I understand it. She is lying in a cutting way upstream on the Yellow River. I know no more at this stage,

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If you can get more specific location and correct spelling? it,s amazing what you can see on google earth,some of the imaging in China is really clear.
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Old 3rd May 2010, 23:25
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Fine - if nothing comes of it . It may never take off. But no tears either way.

A pretty sharp retort no less.

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John

My Dad once said to me that Ship Owners had no sentiment or soul, when a ship had done its time, send it to the breakers, obviously our ship manager, Octavious is of the sme ilk.

There's no harm in dreaming, but I fear there a lot of obstacles to overcome if you are to suceed in your quest, I hope it will happen and if I can come up with any ideas I'll let you know.

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Old 4th May 2010, 18:30
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it is worth dreaming--in liverpool it is as if blue funnel never was .having spent 20 years in blueys . i would contribute to returning a ship of the haydays for future generations to admire
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I went around the land on the Dolius 10.8.56. until 1.9.56. just prior to her maiden deep sea voyage, so I was there nearly at the start.
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